Waiting, once again.

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 06:54:04 -0700, Whoey Louie wrote:

> Yes, screw the historical records, let's just make it up as we go.

Old Bill's an expert in that technique.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 05:48:02 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He freaked when
the tuner didn't work, and it would only play Country Music. He was
ranting, "There's something wrong with the radio!!!"

Haha! I never figured you for one of these "country or fight!" type of
individuals. :-D

Sorry to hear about you having to survive another storm.

It's part of life.

Forgive me if this has been asked before, but do you not have a storm
cellar? If you haven't, could you not get one built for you? Surely
that's the preferable choice against driving hundreds of miles inland
every time this happens?

Anyway, radio news says it's nasty, so stay safe and come back in one
piece.



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[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:21:50 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:23:54 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:30:24 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:36:58 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

It's fun to watch the computer track projections. They are all new
every day.

IDK what projections you're looking at, but the many hurricane forecasts
that I've followed, they get tweaked, but they are definitely not all
new every day. And they always provide plenty of notice to people
that get affected by them. It is the weather, you know.


Not the weather, the simulations of weather.

Tweaked in this case is about 90 degrees.

The path of a hurricane depends on ocean surface temperatures and salinity;
back in 1900, the Galveston storm was known in advance, and preparations made for it
to land... in New Jersey. Texas was surprised, though.

We actually CAN monitor ocean surface broadly nowadays, and path predictions
are quite good. Predictions are always simulations, so simulations
too are quite good nowadays. Bet you a dollar the path of Dorian won't hit Galveston!

That's was essentially my point too. The forecasts get adjusted, but
a very high percentage of the time, from about 3 days out, they are
pretty close. And there is plenty of time for people to take steps
to avoid loss of life and some property. Dorian's shift in forecast
was one of the biggest I've seen, but even that was 3 days before
landfall in the US. We got lucky this time, at least as it appears
right now.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 11:17:53 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 5:45:10 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 3:07:01 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Whoey Louie wrote...

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 1:51:43 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Whoey Louie wrote...

On August 31, 2019, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

So it's looking like it will be another environmental disaster.

ROFL

Now even a routine hurricane is supposed to be an environmental
disaster. Hurricanes are part of the environment.

Yes, Mother Nature can beat up on itself, but hey, that's
still an environmental disaster!! Anyway, categories 4
and 5 didn't used to be routine.

That's obvious BS.

The links you put up support my statement.


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- Win

Perhaps you missed this part:

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

And you missed this part "There has been a very pronounced increase in the number of tropical storms and hurricanes in the Atlantic since the late-1980s."

Gabriel A. Vecchi and Thomas R. Knutson seem to have missed the point that anthropogenic global warming has been accelerating over the past forty years.

By 1980 had been about half a degree of anthropogenic global warming above the normal interglacial average temperature - comparable with the statistical noise on the signal from the El Nino/La Nina alternation and the slower atlantic Multidecadal oscillation. Since then we've had another half degree of anthropogenic global warming.

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/historical-atlantic-hurricane-and-tropical-storm-records/

Being obsessed with historical records can blind you to what's actually going on now.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Yes, screw the historical records, let's just make it up as we go.

ROFL

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 12:29:55 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 8/31/19 7:18 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:

275 million registered passenger vehicles in the US and only 225 million
registered drivers. Not all those registered drivers are actually able
or available to drive a vehicle at any given time.

I'd ballpark in a densely-populated storm-threatened coastal area of a
couple hundred miles there are optimistically 2.8 drivers available for
every four registered vehicles sitting in parking lots and driveways.
Optimistcally 20-25% are going to get left behind. 20-25% is plenty of
cars in area that size to make a lot of dramatic pictures of parking
lots filled with flooded-out cars.

And you can't figure out how to have a family member, a neighbor,
a friend, etc help you move a car a mile or in many of the stupid
cases I've seen, just 8 blocks inland, to higher ground etc.
They help you move yours, you help them move theirs. Geez

Neighbors and friends might be pretty busy sorting out their own
evacuation problems and trying to save what they can of their own gear.

I've noticed after being a native-born American and living in America
for the better part of 40 years Americans tend to be fairly protective
and possessive about their gear, automobiles particularly. I think most
Americans would find a way to save all their vehicles if it were really
so simple to move everything out of the area effectively, even with some
warning.

I suppose next you'll tell us that those dummies that drive their
cars into flood waters, where they see the road is flooded, that
couldn't be helped either. Just have to go, you know. Like that
dopey mother that drowned her kid by driving into flood waters.
They even had the road closed, baracaded and this was right
after the hurricane had passed, there was severe flooding.
I think they charged that dope with manslaughter. But if you kill
you car, I guess everybody else that's responsible just pays for it.

Nah there are surely plenty of stupid or ignorant or arrogant or all
three people out there who ignore signs, ignore warnings, ignore advice,
and just do generally dumb things, either occasionally as most everyone
does from time to time, or as a habitual lifestyle choice of living on
ego and feelings of invulnerability.

Fast moving water is deceptive; people maybe got consumer 4x4 SUV or
truck (that was sold to them on the notions of "ruggedness" and that it
is somehow designed for situations like that) it's like 14" of water?
Pfft I'll just power through all that - 14" of fast-running water is
tremendously powerful it'll shove that SUV off its footing and
downstream quickly, not a problem at all.

Like I said, there are plenty of people who are stupid. It's been all
over the news, time and time again, cases of people trying to drive
through water and either getting stuck or swept away. They've been
told not to do it. And 'fast moving water"? You'd have to be a real
moron to try to drive through that, unless the alternative was far
worse, but that never seems to be the case and people do it.

It's the kind of power that modern suburban 1st world humans who tend to
spend very little of their lives in situations where nature crashes
right into their neighborhood understandably, perhaps don't have a good
intuitive grasp of.

Like I said, they are stupid.

 

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:806387c9-c04e-47a5-a834-fafa293dd109@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:23:54 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:30:24 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:36:58 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

It's fun to watch the computer track projections. They are all
new every day.

IDK what projections you're looking at, but the many hurricane
forecasts that I've followed, they get tweaked, but they are
definitely not all new every day. And they always provide
plenty of notice to people that get affected by them. It is the
weather, you know.


Not the weather, the simulations of weather.

Tweaked in this case is about 90 degrees.

The path of a hurricane depends on ocean surface temperatures and
salinity; back in 1900, the Galveston storm was known in advance,
and preparations made for it to land... in New Jersey. Texas was
surprised, though.

We actually CAN monitor ocean surface broadly nowadays, and path
predictions are quite good. Predictions are always simulations,
so simulations too are quite good nowadays. Bet you a dollar the
path of Dorian won't hit Galveston!

Funny then, that the euro and US simulations for path were way off
each other. I immediately wanted to know what variables get
introduced by some dope with buttons and dials in front og him and
how much is really supercomputer fractal vortice predictive
KNOWLEDGE, which we have a LOT of.

Looked to me like it might pull up at the shore of Fl and just sit
there not moving inland or up the coast much and peter out as it then
slowly does start walking up the coast.

The original US sim had it walking straight across the state.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/1/19 10:24 AM, John Larkin wrote:

One problem is that there is no longer a firm definition of "species."
Nowadays, one batch of squirrels with a stripe on their tails is
declared to be a new species. There are many more species than there
were by the classic definition.

(Except humans of course. We can't have species.)


From 10th grade biology, the classical definition is that a male and
female are of the same species if they can have fertile offspring. So
dogs and wolves are the same species, but horses and donkeys aren't.

That was the classic definition. No longer.

The classical definition never made much sense to begin with as there
are edge cases (horses and donkeys don't produce universally infertile
offspring, even) and the more time went on the more edge cases that were
found.

Classifying things into species was always to assist the practical
process of doing science as far as I know, though, it was never about
maintaining God's proper ordering on Earth for the benefit of the
religious or the eugenically-oriented (or both in the case of the
american right.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species

My older daughter, thednageek, is a PhD biologist, and she has
discovered scores of new insect species, but she can't define
"species."

It's a lot easier to say what something isn't than what something "is."

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:13:33 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:806387c9-c04e-47a5-a834-fafa293dd109@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:23:54 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:30:24 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:36:58 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

It's fun to watch the computer track projections. They are all
new every day.

IDK what projections you're looking at, but the many hurricane
forecasts that I've followed, they get tweaked, but they are
definitely not all new every day. And they always provide
plenty of notice to people that get affected by them. It is the
weather, you know.


Not the weather, the simulations of weather.

Tweaked in this case is about 90 degrees.

The path of a hurricane depends on ocean surface temperatures and
salinity; back in 1900, the Galveston storm was known in advance,
and preparations made for it to land... in New Jersey. Texas was
surprised, though.

We actually CAN monitor ocean surface broadly nowadays, and path
predictions are quite good. Predictions are always simulations,
so simulations too are quite good nowadays. Bet you a dollar the
path of Dorian won't hit Galveston!


Funny then, that the euro and US simulations for path were way off
each other. I immediately wanted to know what variables get
introduced by some dope with buttons and dials in front og him and
how much is really supercomputer fractal vortice predictive
KNOWLEDGE, which we have a LOT of.

Looked to me like it might pull up at the shore of Fl and just sit
there not moving inland or up the coast much and peter out as it then
slowly does start walking up the coast.

The original US sim had it walking straight across the state.

Its much more complicated than that, at least in the case of the European model which solves the entire world. Supposedly they stream the data from over 4,000 sensors into the sim in real time. As massive as their computational capabilities are, they only manage one finished forecast per 12 hours. All the other sims, which are not quite useless, cut corners in the interest of throughput, and aren't worth looking at until 24 hours out.

 

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:56:20 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 5:19:33 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:51:22 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:36:58 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the upcoming mess.


It might not make land in Florida.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDTWKADU4AIE38E?format=jpg&name=small


It's fun to watch the computer track projections. They are all new
every day.

(I'll regrain from commenting on computer climate projections.)

When I was a teenager, Betsy was scooting West towards Texas, and a
famous pompous NOLA weatherman assured us it would miss us. Then it
did a 90 degree turn to the north, and the eye passed over us late in
the night.

It's not going to make landfall there. But it is threatening a huge swath of coastline from north Florida all the way to North Carolina. The coastal wetlands there are really low elevation and serve as habitat for millions of birds and other wildlife, with more than a few species already critically endangered. So it's looking like it will be another environmental disaster.

But no different from what's been going on for thousands of years.

John Larkin hasn't got the message that the one degree Celcius of global warming that we've already puts 6% more water vapour into the atmosphere above the oceans, which is the energy store that drives hurricanes and other extreme weather.

That's not been true for the past few thousand years.

Since hurricanes depend on the existence of a large area of ocean that is warmer than 26C down to depth of about 50 metres, global warming opens out the area that can spawn them.

The modelling that has been done suggests that the extra area is going to translate into more intense hurricanes rather than more frequent hurricanes, which is going to make the consequences more severe than they have been for the past few thousand years.

John Larkin gets his information from Anthony Watts' denialist website, which isn't a particularly reliable source, even if it offers enough flattery to it's readers to keep John Larkin happy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Right, and all that water vapor makes the storm double damaging because of of it. Supposedly when the vapor precipitates out of the circulation, the rotation is damped due to some kind of conservation of momentum, which in practical terms means the storm tends linger over the area much longer. This is how they ended with 50 inches rainfall in Houston. The flooding was horrendous. You have double trouble when the storm is on the coastline because newly dried air re-charges with vapor as it passes over water, ready for a new round of precipitation when it passes back over the land. The storm acts like a pump. Then the flooding is much more than a rainfall statistic. These areas with older infrastructure, as in the southeast, have many primitive coal ash retention ponds. Many of these are unlined, open, and contain forty years of coal ash retention, meaning they're quite massive. For some reason a lot of them are adjacent to rivers. It's really bad news for everything when these things overflow into the surrounding environment, and even worse if they rupture and dump their total contents. The ash kills everything, maybe not immediately, but eventually, and it can't be cleaned up. Coal ash isn't the only type of hazardous retention pond operation going, but it's certainly the largest.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:19:02 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 06:54:04 -0700, Whoey Louie wrote:

Yes, screw the historical records, let's just make it up as we go.

Old Bill's an expert in that technique.

He also suffers from delusions that he's adequate.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:18:04 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 05:48:02 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He freaked when
the tuner didn't work, and it would only play Country Music. He was
ranting, "There's something wrong with the radio!!!"

Haha! I never figured you for one of these "country or fight!" type of
individuals. :-D

I grew up listening to Bluegrass, Country and Southern Gospel music. Rock always gave me migraines.

Sorry to hear about you having to survive another storm.

It's part of life.

Forgive me if this has been asked before, but do you not have a storm
cellar? If you haven't, could you not get one built for you? Surely
that's the preferable choice against driving hundreds of miles inland
every time this happens?

Anyway, radio news says it's nasty, so stay safe and come back in one
piece.

Te only places that can have a basement in this part of Florida are on hills. Real, or man made. I saw one home being built tt was multiple story, but they brought in a lot of trucks to slope the ground up to the second floor, just to have a basement.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 14:31:39 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:24:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

My older daughter, thednageek, is a PhD biologist, and she has
discovered scores of new insect species, but she can't define "species."

Funny I don't remember you ever mentioning you having such a child
prodigy before, John. Unlike dearly-departed Jim, who practically force-
fed us at every opportunity how great his offspring were (God bless him).

She has elected to be a public figure, so I guess it's OK to mention
her. She is now making a presentation on family genetics in Amsterdam,
and for some reason using (with my permission) my high-school yearbook
picture to demonstrate how one can, just by spitting in a tube, locate
relatives.

She has stories. Like telling people "Ummm, he wasn't your father..."

She traveled a lot by motorcycle (she is also a certified BMW
motorcycle mechanic) through the sw USA and northern Mexico,
discovering new "species" of native bees. I don't think they would be
species by the classic definition.

People in the alarmism industry need stuff to work with. Cat5
hurricanes, starving frogs, forest fires, new species discovered just
as they are going extinct, beaches eroding, record temps (measured off
airport runways), beach houses getting wet, bits of plastic, better
instrumentation to tease out extremes, and of course bigger and better
computers.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 16:08:24 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 08:01:41 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

She has elected to be a public figure, so I guess it's OK to mention
her. She is now making a presentation on family genetics in Amsterdam,
and for some reason using (with my permission) my high-school yearbook
picture to demonstrate how one can, just by spitting in a tube, locate
relatives.

I once knew someone who could do that just by looking at their faces.

She has stories. Like telling people "Ummm, he wasn't your father..."

Oh boy. Awkward!!

She traveled a lot by motorcycle (she is also a certified BMW motorcycle
mechanic) through the sw USA and northern Mexico, discovering new
"species" of native bees. I don't think they would be species by the
classic definition.

She sounds like a honey. Such a shame there aren't more like that around
nowadays or I wouldn't be the embittered, despondent, ageing bachelor you
see before you now. :-D

It's not too late to fix that. We have an 87 yo relative with a nice
new girlfriend.


--

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jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 08:17:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:56:20 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 5:19:33 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:51:22 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:36:58 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:19:34 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the upcoming mess.


It might not make land in Florida.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDTWKADU4AIE38E?format=jpg&name=small


It's fun to watch the computer track projections. They are all new
every day.

(I'll regrain from commenting on computer climate projections.)

When I was a teenager, Betsy was scooting West towards Texas, and a
famous pompous NOLA weatherman assured us it would miss us. Then it
did a 90 degree turn to the north, and the eye passed over us late in
the night.

It's not going to make landfall there. But it is threatening a huge swath of coastline from north Florida all the way to North Carolina. The coastal wetlands there are really low elevation and serve as habitat for millions of birds and other wildlife, with more than a few species already critically endangered. So it's looking like it will be another environmental disaster.

But no different from what's been going on for thousands of years.

John Larkin hasn't got the message that the one degree Celcius of global warming that we've already puts 6% more water vapour into the atmosphere above the oceans, which is the energy store that drives hurricanes and other extreme weather.

That's not been true for the past few thousand years.

Since hurricanes depend on the existence of a large area of ocean that is warmer than 26C down to depth of about 50 metres, global warming opens out the area that can spawn them.

The modelling that has been done suggests that the extra area is going to translate into more intense hurricanes rather than more frequent hurricanes, which is going to make the consequences more severe than they have been for the past few thousand years.

John Larkin gets his information from Anthony Watts' denialist website, which isn't a particularly reliable source, even if it offers enough flattery to it's readers to keep John Larkin happy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Right, and all that water vapor makes the storm double damaging because of of it. Supposedly when the vapor precipitates out of the circulation, the rotation is damped due to some kind of conservation of momentum, which in practical terms means the storm tends linger over the area much longer. This is how they ended with 50 inches rainfall in Houston. The flooding was horrendous.

Many of the flooded houses in Houston were built in what was a
reservoir.

New Orleans is mostly below sea level. A hundred years of building
levees and pumping out groundwater and building ranch-style houses has
side effects. Hurricanes have been around forever.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 08:01:41 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

She has elected to be a public figure, so I guess it's OK to mention
her. She is now making a presentation on family genetics in Amsterdam,
and for some reason using (with my permission) my high-school yearbook
picture to demonstrate how one can, just by spitting in a tube, locate
relatives.

I once knew someone who could do that just by looking at their faces.

> She has stories. Like telling people "Ummm, he wasn't your father..."

Oh boy. Awkward!!

She traveled a lot by motorcycle (she is also a certified BMW motorcycle
mechanic) through the sw USA and northern Mexico, discovering new
"species" of native bees. I don't think they would be species by the
classic definition.

She sounds like a honey. Such a shame there aren't more like that around
nowadays or I wouldn't be the embittered, despondent, ageing bachelor you
see before you now. :-D



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:46:23 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:18:04 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 05:48:02 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He freaked when the tuner didn't work, and it would only play
Country Music. He was ranting, "There's something wrong with the
radio!!!"

Haha! I never figured you for one of these "country or fight!" type of
individuals. :-D


I grew up listening to Bluegrass, Country and Southern Gospel music.
Rock always gave me migraines.

Argh, you're a square, baby. You're an 'L7' :-D

Te only places that can have a basement in this part of Florida are on
hills. Real, or man made. I saw one home being built tt was multiple
story, but they brought in a lot of trucks to slope the ground up to the
second floor, just to have a basement.

"The only places that can have a basement in this part of Florida" -
which bunch of arseholes came up with that edict?? Town Hall Nazis I'll
wager. Democrats to a man.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:50:11 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

> He also suffers from delusions that he's adequate.

Well, for those who are studying Marxist dogma, Bill's the very chap!
There's nothing about Marx's clapped out, discredited theories he doesn't
know. It's only everything else he stinks at.



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On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 09:26:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

It's not too late to fix that. We have an 87 yo relative with a nice new
girlfriend.

Thanks, John. Nice to know there's hope for me yet! :-D



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On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 11:53:40 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

"The only places that can have a basement in this part of Florida" -
which bunch of arseholes came up with that edict?? Town Hall Nazis I'll
wager. Democrats to a man.

Water table is too high and houses are too small, the water pressure tends to pop the structure out of the ground. They actually don't pop out of the ground, but it does play hell on settlement and things like plumbing and electrical runs, as well as interfering with operation of internals counting on plumb structure like doors and windows. Any ordinance banning such construction is in the best interest of the public.

 

[Winfield Hill]

Whoey Louie wrote...

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm
and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

Excuse me, we now realize that a cat 4 or 5 storm
has hit, only because we have better monitoring?
The lower-frequency of recorded storms in the past
is because they didn't notice the 140mph winds?


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Thanks,
- Win