Waiting, once again.

On Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:39:40 UTC+1, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman

Most of us are aware how messed up NT is. He's welcome to waste >his life any way he likes, and peddling fatuous opinions on an >unmoderated user-group is his choice. Not a good one.

Do you ever comment on the subject instead of the posters' sanity and mental acuity, neither of which you are qualified to judge anyway ?

Yeah, I am not responding to you, I am responding at you.

Just been too much old Man. We didn't ask for your fucking evaluations.

You are getting to the point I might just retaliate. I am USian, I live war.

He's just another guy lost in his own crap. After a while people quit caring. I don't much care what he has to say - there's always some idiot isn't there.


NT
 
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 22:30:22 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

On 2019/09/01 8:14 p.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 12:31:44 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:24:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

My older daughter, thednageek, is a PhD biologist, and she has
discovered scores of new insect species, but she can't define "species."

Funny I don't remember you ever mentioning you having such a child
prodigy before, John. Unlike dearly-departed Jim, who practically force-
fed us at every opportunity how great his offspring were (God bless him).

Curistor Doom hasn't been paying attention. John Larkin's daughter has been mentioned here from time to time. Motorcycles have also been known to come into it.


Nothing wrong with motorcycles (with proper training - much like pilots)
or being proud of your offspring!

Bragging about your children is not so good though...you tend to get
ignored.

John

The issue is the definition of "species." The people who are in the
endangered-species industry need to identify as many small populations
of endangered species as possible. It's good for business, so they do.
 
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 11:33:49 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/1/19 10:24 AM, John Larkin wrote:

One problem is that there is no longer a firm definition of "species."
Nowadays, one batch of squirrels with a stripe on their tails is
declared to be a new species. There are many more species than there
were by the classic definition.

(Except humans of course. We can't have species.)


From 10th grade biology, the classical definition is that a male and
female are of the same species if they can have fertile offspring. So
dogs and wolves are the same species, but horses and donkeys aren't.

That was the classic definition. No longer.

The classical definition never made much sense to begin with as there
are edge cases (horses and donkeys don't produce universally infertile
offspring, even) and the more time went on the more edge cases that were
found.

It made sense because it defined a coherent population that could and
did inter-breed. A local variety or cluster would continuosly blend
into the main population. The extinction of a small sub-group was no
important genetic loss. Except to those in the extinction industry.

Of course there can be corner cases, but cats don't breed with
turtles.
 
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 5:50:27 AM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:39:40 UTC+1, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman

Most of us are aware how messed up NT is. He's welcome to waste his life any way he likes, and peddling fatuous opinions on an unmoderated user-group is his choice. Not a good one.

Do you ever comment on the subject instead of the posters' sanity and mental acuity, neither of which you are qualified to judge anyway ?

Yeah, I am not responding to you, I am responding at you.

In NT's case, I'm responding on the basis of the subject matter of most of his previous posts.

They make his lack of mental acuity very obvious. You may not have noticed.

> > Just been too much old Man. We didn't ask for your fucking evaluations.

Nor has anybody asked for yours, so you are making exactly the same mistake, if it is a mistake.

> > You are getting to the point I might just retaliate. I am USian, I live war.

Big deal.

> He's just another guy lost in his own crap.

NT likes to think that - after all it's exactly what I say about him. Part of the crap he's lost in is his ill-judged faith in his own judgement.

> After a while people quit caring. I don't much care what he has to say - there's always some idiot isn't there.

Too true. And NT is particularly fine example of the breed.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 9:44:11 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 22:30:22 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com
wrote:

On 2019/09/01 8:14 p.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 12:31:44 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:24:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

My older daughter, thednageek, is a PhD biologist, and she has
discovered scores of new insect species, but she can't define "species."

Funny I don't remember you ever mentioning you having such a child
prodigy before, John. Unlike dearly-departed Jim, who practically force-
fed us at every opportunity how great his offspring were (God bless him).

Cursitor Doom hasn't been paying attention. John Larkin's daughter has been mentioned here from time to time. Motorcycles have also been known to come into it.

Nothing wrong with motorcycles (with proper training - much like pilots)
or being proud of your offspring!

Bragging about your children is not so good though...you tend to get
ignored.

The issue is the definition of "species." The people who are in the
endangered-species industry need to identify as many small populations
of endangered species as possible. It's good for business, so they do.

Biologists - like a lot of other groups - divide into "splitters" and "lumpers".

There's more involved in that than the short-term interests of people who happen to find the species that they are studying has become endangered.

Commercial interests are always frustrated when an area they want to exploit contains a rare species which their exploitation might wipe out. They have the kind of money that can buy a campaign to present the guardians of that rare species as bleeding-heart liberals.

John Larkin is a gullible twit, always ready to fall for that kind of campaign.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 9:50:18 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 11:33:49 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/1/19 10:24 AM, John Larkin wrote:

One problem is that there is no longer a firm definition of "species.."
Nowadays, one batch of squirrels with a stripe on their tails is
declared to be a new species. There are many more species than there
were by the classic definition.

(Except humans of course. We can't have species.)

From 10th grade biology, the classical definition is that a male and
female are of the same species if they can have fertile offspring. So
dogs and wolves are the same species, but horses and donkeys aren't.

That was the classic definition. No longer.

The classical definition never made much sense to begin with as there
are edge cases (horses and donkeys don't produce universally infertile
offspring, even) and the more time went on the more edge cases that were
found.

It made sense because it defined a coherent population that could and
did inter-breed. A local variety or cluster would continuously blend
into the main population. The extinction of a small sub-group was no
important genetic loss.

Except to those in the extinction industry.

There is always a point in the evolution of new species where its a small subgroup. If John Larkin had been wandering around Africa a hundred thousand years ago, he's have been happy to see our ancestors wiped out, and would have seen it as "no important genetic loss".

Considering the way he thinks - or fails to think - it might have involved genes that he hasn't happened to have inherited, so it could well have been no loss to him at all.

Of course there can be corner cases, but cats don't breed with
turtles.

I rest my case.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 7:44:11 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 22:30:22 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com
wrote:

On 2019/09/01 8:14 p.m., Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 12:31:44 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:24:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

My older daughter, thednageek, is a PhD biologist, and she has
discovered scores of new insect species, but she can't define "species."

Funny I don't remember you ever mentioning you having such a child
prodigy before, John. Unlike dearly-departed Jim, who practically force-
fed us at every opportunity how great his offspring were (God bless him).

Curistor Doom hasn't been paying attention. John Larkin's daughter has been mentioned here from time to time. Motorcycles have also been known to come into it.


Nothing wrong with motorcycles (with proper training - much like pilots)

Total BS. Motorcycles are extremely dangerous as are small aircraft and non-professional pilots.

"The NHTSA reports that 13 cars out of every 100,000 are involved in a fatal accident, but motorcycles have a fatality rate of 72 per 100,000."

'For every mile traveled, motorcyclists have a risk of a fatal accident that is 35 times higher than a car driver."

I drove nothing other than a motorcycle for some years. It was hugely educational in that you learned serious defensive driving skills or you died. Even then I came close to dying a number of times.


or being proud of your offspring!

Bragging about your children is not so good though...you tend to get
ignored.

John

The issue is the definition of "species." The people who are in the
endangered-species industry need to identify as many small populations
of endangered species as possible. It's good for business, so they do.

Aren't we all limited to what is "possible"? Would you expect them to try to minimize the number of endangered species populations and allow them to become extinct?

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On 30/08/2019 7:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the upcoming mess.

So how did you get on ?
 
On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 9:17:19 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 9:44:11 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

The issue is the definition of "species." The people who are in the
endangered-species industry need to identify as many small populations
of endangered species as possible. It's good for business, so they do.

John Larkin is a gullible twit, always ready to fall for that kind of campaign.

He also fails to understand the actions of biologists are also good for the endangered species.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 10:52:41 PM UTC-4, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 30/08/2019 7:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the upcoming mess.


So how did you get on ?

So far, it has just been heavy bands of rain, but the high winds are still a little to the south of me. The county didn't open any shelters.
 
On 4/09/2019 2:23 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 10:52:41 PM UTC-4, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 30/08/2019 7:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the upcoming mess.


So how did you get on ?

So far, it has just been heavy bands of rain, but the high winds are still a little to the south of me. The county didn't open any shelters.

Ahh well, you might get lucky!!
 
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:16:55 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:

> I rest my case.

If only. Instead you endlessly treat us to your pathologic views of people you neither know nor understand. All we hear is your highly insecure ego, which personally interests me not one iota, and I suspect the same may be true of everyone here.

As has been said many times, come back with some electronics, if you can.
 
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 7:12:04 PM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:16:55 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:

I rest my case.

If only. Instead you endlessly treat us to your pathologic views of people you neither know nor understand.

Sadly, you are a lot more transparent than you imagine.

> All we hear is your highly insecure ego,

That proposition would come as a surprise to my friends and colleagues. NT does need to invent stuff to make himself feel better, and some of inventions are remarkably silly.

> which personally interests me not one iota, and I suspect the same may be true of everyone here.

If your disinterest manifested itself in a period or silence and withdrawal I'm sure we'd all be very grateful.

> As has been said many times, come back with some electronics, if you can.

That's John Larkin's mantra. Unlike him, I've got a couple of patents and a couple of published papers.

Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A microcontroller-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a thermistor sensor” Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0022-3735/11/6/008/meta

This was stuff that got published - it wasn't done to get published, and there's a lot more stuff that didn't get written up.

I do post stuff about electronics quite frequently, and NT either doesn't get to see any of it or can't make any sense of what he does see.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:598a81b7-a6bd-4127-b64c-4a64660c8e40@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:17:52 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 7:12:04 PM UTC+10, tabby
wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:16:55 UTC+1, Bill Sloman
wrote:

I rest my case.

If only. Instead you endlessly treat us to your pathologic
views of peo
ple you neither know nor understand.


As has been said many times, come back with some electronics,
if you ca
n.

That's John Larkin's mantra. Unlike him, I've got a couple of
patents and
a couple of published papers.

Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A
microcontroll
er-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical stage
to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a
thermistor sensor” Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64
(1996)

decades ago, since which your mind has seriously declined.


I do post stuff about electronics quite frequently, and NT either
doesn't
get to see any of it

seldom. This kind of garbage is your main output. Everyone here,
bar you apparently, knows it.

Were you designing precision control loops back in '96? Circuits
that are only improved on these days by better thermal sensors than
was available then.

Do you even know what a control loop is?
 
Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in
news:W-OdnfzrvN-78PLAnZ2dnUU7-e-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au:

On 4/09/2019 2:23 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 10:52:41 PM UTC-4, Rheilly
Phoull wrote:
On 30/08/2019 7:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
Waiting to see what path Dorian will take.

Waiting for the county to decide if we have to evacuate, or if
we are to shelter in place.

Waiting for yet another extended Power failure.

It figures that I will have a doctor's appointment during the
upcoming mess.


So how did you get on ?

So far, it has just been heavy bands of rain, but the high winds
are still a little to the south of me. The county didn't open any
shelters.

Ahh well, you might get lucky!!

It did not make landfall and degraded, idiot. He already got
lucky.

His screwed up jaw didn't kill him either. (damn!) He got
seriously lucky he is even still here.
 
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:17:52 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 7:12:04 PM UTC+10, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:16:55 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:

I rest my case.

If only. Instead you endlessly treat us to your pathologic views of people you neither know nor understand.

As has been said many times, come back with some electronics, if you can.

That's John Larkin's mantra. Unlike him, I've got a couple of patents and a couple of published papers.

Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A microcontroller-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a thermistor sensor” Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)

decades ago, since which your mind has seriously declined.


> I do post stuff about electronics quite frequently, and NT either doesn't get to see any of it

seldom. This kind of garbage is your main output. Everyone here, bar you apparently, knows it.
 
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:28:56 UTC+1, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Were you designing precision control loops back in '96? Circuits
that are only improved on these days by better thermal sensors than
was available then.

In 96 I was mainly working on measurement. Not thermal.

> Do you even know what a control loop is?

lol. Is there anyone on here that doesn't? I can't think of any current contributor that's likely to not know what one is. Perhaps there's one that isn't familiar with PID, but I expect everyone is.


NT
 
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 11:00:25 PM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:17:52 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 7:12:04 PM UTC+10, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:16:55 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:

I rest my case.

If only. Instead you endlessly treat us to your pathologic views of people you neither know nor understand.


As has been said many times, come back with some electronics, if you can.

That's John Larkin's mantra. Unlike him, I've got a couple of patents and a couple of published papers.

Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. “A microcontroller-based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a thermistor sensor” Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)

decades ago, since which your mind has seriously declined.

You haven't caught the follow-up comments on people who cited the 1996 paper.

I do post stuff about electronics quite frequently, and NT either doesn't get to see any of it

seldom. This kind of garbage is your main output.

You regard it as garbage because you don't find it flattering. John Larkin similarly feels unhappy about the short-fall in admiration.

It's certainly an appreciable component of what I post. Your own output has its own problems, which I do mention from time to time. Technical rigor isn't something you can manage.

> Everyone here, bar you apparently, knows it.

By "everyone" you'd be thinking of your kindred spirits - Cursitor Doom, Trader4, krw - who share your delusion that they know what they are talking about and who are all equally unwilling to entertain the idea that they could ever get anything wrong.

The internet is great at letting enquiring minds find out useful stuff about the real world. It's also great at letting pompous windbags find a sympathetic audience for their particular delusions.

This isn't a venue where the pompous windbags get a free ride.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:62068700-beaf-4015-ada1-54a0e5746cdd@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:28:56 UTC+1,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Were you designing precision control loops back in '96?
Circuits
that are only improved on these days by better thermal sensors
than was available then.

In 96 I was mainly working on measurement. Not thermal.

Do you even know what a control loop is?

lol. Is there anyone on here that doesn't?

Except you. You discounted his post about it like it was nothing.
That leads me to believe that you are just some putzs that wandered
over from the physics loonpile.


I can't think of any
current contributor that's likely to not know what one is.

Except that you make pissy bitch posts where you claim he is not a
contributor... yada yada yada ad infinitum. In fact you cannot get
off your fucktarded hobby horse on that.

Perhaps
there's one that isn't familiar with PID, but I expect everyone
is.

Then stop spewing horseshit about how you do or do not know what
someone does or does not know.

It does not feel good, does it, boy?

Oh, and LOL, and ROFL and all that immature adolescent putz spew
you texttards think is normal is ANOTHER indicator of a lack of adult
maturity.

Live it or live with it, child.
 
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 01:04:51 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/1/19 7:44 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 15:08:33 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/1/19 1:47 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

The area was originally some kind of drainage basin for positively huge watershed. Not good for building residential, but excellent for construction of a shipping port, which was its original purpose, it was totally industrial. Not exactly sure of the time frame, but the booming expansion of the city infrastructure and the population boom was relatively recent, like past 40 years or something. They did have a system of buffer retention reservoirs, to hold excess water in the event of storms or floods, and buy time for natural drainage to remove the water and prevent flooding. But the system was corrupted by the greed of the real estate developers with lots of housing constructed in high risk areas and fudged estimates of their flood abatement efficacy. End result was of course gazillions of bucks of damage and looking for a federal taxpayer bailout to fix it.


New Orleans is mostly below sea level. A hundred years of building
levees and pumping out groundwater and building ranch-style houses has
side effects. Hurricanes have been around forever.

Right, NOLA is pretty safe if the dykes are properly maintained. They'll probably need to be enlarged to account for sea level rise eventually.


Ben Shapiro: "If sea level rises even say ten feet would people not
just, sell their homes and move inland?"

TO FUCKING AQUAMAN?

https://youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?t=198

Gotta be a real stable genius to work as an editor at Breitbart for four
years.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/life/home-garden/obamas-buying-marthas-vineyard-estate/287-6cfe72ff-320a-4944-a2e9-6328706b870a

The front door is something like 8 feet above sea level.



if that home were to get washed away tomorrow do you think Obama would
be able to afford another home

or would he be homeless, now.

???

He'll get cheap federally-subsidized flood insurance, which accounts
for a lot of current storm damage. People would be less likely to
build in scenic but flood-threatened areas if they had to pay market
prices for insurance.

And he can helicopter out before a storm hits.
 

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