Waiting, once again.

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 1:58:08 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:50:11 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He also suffers from delusions that he's adequate.

Well, for those who are studying Marxist dogma, Bill's the very chap!

I'm sure anybody who had studied Marxist dogma would find me seriously under-informed.

Cursitor Doom clearly hasn't - he believes that cultural Marxism is some kind of real movement, as opposed to an imaginary movement dreamed up by a bunch of right-wing lunatics to explain stuff they didn't like.

There's nothing about Marx's clapped out, discredited theories he doesn't
know.

Only Cursitor Doom could make such an absurd claim. I probably know more about them than Cursitor Doom does (as will pretty much any educated adult), but I've certainly not put any time into studying them.

> It's only everything else he stinks at.

Cursitor Doom really doesn't know much about electronics either.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 9/2/19 1:24 AM, John Robertson wrote:

On 2019/09/01 10:07 p.m., bitrex wrote:
On 9/1/19 8:00 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 16:44:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/life/home-garden/obamas-buying-marthas-
vineyard-estate/287-6cfe72ff-320a-4944-a2e9-6328706b870a

The front door is something like 8 feet above sea level.

Well, Obama as an insider clearly knows the score: sea levels are *not*
rising.
Wake up, bitchez.




Sometimes I get the impression "Cursitor Doom" is a vehicle for some
kind of long-term multi-user performance-art project.

I prefer my Russian troll hypothesis... someone would have to be paying
him to be so consistently annoying.

John ;-#)#

He should ask for more money

 

On Monday, 2 September 2019 14:03:14 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 6:18:51 PM UTC+10, tabby wrote:
On Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:58:08 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:50:11 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He also suffers from delusions that he's adequate.

Well, for those who are studying Marxist dogma, Bill's the very chap!
There's nothing about Marx's clapped out, discredited theories he doesn't
know. It's only everything else he stinks at.

The one thing he's good at is trolling, presenting arguments that sound credible if you don't think much about them.

NT is an expert at not thinking very much about the arguments he presents.

He feels hurt when anyone points out that he's peddling nonsense, but he's too dim and too vain to be willing or able to recognise that they are right.

And I think he did a bit of electronics once.

NT's grasp of electronics is as weak as his grasp of the rest of reality.

predictable trolling. replonk.
Upset no, I don't need to waste my life on this messed up character. I think everyone knows that. Except Bill.

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:

Whoey Louie wrote...

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm
and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

Excuse me, we now realize that a cat 4 or 5 storm
has hit, only because we have better monitoring?
The lower-frequency of recorded storms in the past
is because they didn't notice the 140mph winds?

No, it was because we didn't always have satellites, and planes
to fly out into the storms that no one knew were there.

Comparing barometric pressure of hurricanes making landfall might
be a better comparison, if we assume the earlier hurricanes were
as equally instrumented by diligent observers.

John Robertson's link has a good list--
https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html

Dorian's at 916mb right now over water, which is a heckuva blow
if it holds up over land. But they almost never do.

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Whoey Louie wrote...

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm
and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

Excuse me, we now realize that a cat 4 or 5 storm
has hit, only because we have better monitoring?
The lower-frequency of recorded storms in the past
is because they didn't notice the 140mph winds?

No, it was because we didn't always have satellites, and planes
to fly out into the storms that no one knew were there.

And thousands of always-on calibrated sensors, and doppler radar to
spot the peak wind speeds anywhere.

Comparing barometric pressure of hurricanes making landfall might
be a better comparison, if we assume the earlier hurricanes were
as equally instrumented by diligent observers.

Which of course they weren't.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Whoey Louie wrote...

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm
and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

Excuse me, we now realize that a cat 4 or 5 storm
has hit, only because we have better monitoring?

Comparing barometric pressure of hurricanes making landfall might
be a better comparison, if we assume the earlier hurricanes were
as equally instrumented by diligent observers.

No, just 'adequately instrumented' is good enough. The diligence of past weather
observers is NOT an assumption, it is knowledge. Knowledge doesn't fade
when we forget its gatherers, nowadays; we publish the good stuff and keep
archives.

Much of humanity is literate, and has been for longer than personal computers
and the worldwide web.

 

[Michael Terrell]

Cursitor Doom wrote:

"The only places that can have a basement in this part of Florida" -
which bunch of arseholes came up with that edict?? Town Hall Nazis I'll
wager. Democrats to a man.

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits over a huge Aquifer. If you blast into the rock to create a basement, you will likely end up with a sinkhole. They have to drive huge pilings to the bedrock to support really heavy structures.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Did you hurry out to get a right earring just after or did you
already have one?

I don't wear earrings, you sick queer. You have me confused with your boyfriend that works the streets with you as tranny hookers.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 11:53:26 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

I don't consider Wikipedia to be a primary source, however the NOAA
keeps a list of land-fall hurricanes and it paints a slightly different
picture:

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html

Read the bottom comments as well. The information is only as valid once
someone was there to record it so they have scant records prior to 1851...

Atlantic Hurricane Numbers By Year: 1851-2017
<http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm>
Scroll to the bottom of the list. Sure looks like a general increase
in the number of "names storms" and "hurricanes" since 1995, but not
so much for "major hurricanes".

Named Storms = Tropical Storms, Hurricanes and Subtropical Storms
Hurricanes = Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale 1 to 5
Major Hurricanes = Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale 3, 4, or 5

>Always go to the source!

May the source be with you.

The data source is mentioned at the bottom of the page, but I couldn't
find the document mentioned. I could convert the data to a graph for
those reader anticipating a "dog leg".

As usual, there might be a conspiracy theory involved in the alleged
increasing severity of hurricanes. There seems to be a connection
between the storm category number and the availability of federal aid
and assistance. Bigger numbers seem to get more which makes it
beneficial to escalate the category numbers (number creep):
<https://gh.bmj.com/content/4/1/e001191>
Hurricane Maria was only a Cat 4, so Puerto Rico is complaining that
aid was inadequate and slow. Next disaster, they'll go for a Cat 5
and maybe they'll get more and quicker aid.



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Winfield Hill]

Michael Terrell wrote...

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits
over a huge Aquifer. If you blast into the rock to create
a basement, you will likely end up with a sinkhole.

What about homes built on thick beds of sand / gravel?
Some are on hills of the stuff, can they have a basement?


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 1:06:25 AM UTC+10, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, 2 September 2019 14:03:14 UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 6:18:51 PM UTC+10, tabby wrote:
On Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:58:08 UTC+1, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 07:50:11 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

He also suffers from delusions that he's adequate.

Well, for those who are studying Marxist dogma, Bill's the very chap!
There's nothing about Marx's clapped out, discredited theories he doesn't
know. It's only everything else he stinks at.

The one thing he's good at is trolling, presenting arguments that sound credible if you don't think much about them.

NT is an expert at not thinking very much about the arguments he presents.

He feels hurt when anyone points out that he's peddling nonsense, but he's too dim and too vain to be willing or able to recognise that they are right.

And I think he did a bit of electronics once.

NT's grasp of electronics is as weak as his grasp of the rest of reality.

predictable trolling. replonk.
Upset no, I don't need to waste my life on this messed up character. I think everyone knows that. Except Bill.

Most of us are aware how messed up NT is. He's welcome to waste his life any way he likes, and peddling fatuous opinions on an unmoderated user-group is his choice. Not a good one.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:43:25 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:

Michael Terrell wrote...

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits
over a huge Aquifer. If you blast into the rock to create
a basement, you will likely end up with a sinkhole.

What about homes built on thick beds of sand / gravel?
Some are on hills of the stuff, can they have a basement?

Yes, but I haven't seen many homes with basements, and they were all on hills. Florida is fairly flat, so most homes sit on barely enough dirt to install a septic tank. There is actually decent soil in this area, but my first home was surrounded by Sugar sand, with a very thin, hard layer on top. You could drive on it, with no problems, but if you spun your tires it would break through and from that point on, you could get stuck in the very fine sand.

There are large horse farms near here, along with the Ocala National Forest.. Silver Springs is less than 20 miles away. If you've ever watched the early Tarzan movies, they were filmed in that state park. The park has a large Artesian well that feeds the area with water from the Aquifer. There is a large pool of crystal clear water where they had glass bottom boats, and where they shot the underwater scenes . They had quite a few wild animals there, at one time but some of the monkeys escaped. They were terrorizing downtown Ocala, and breeding like crazy. It got so bad that they had to hire professional hunters to kill off the ones they couldn't trap. It wasn't safe to be outside, unless you didn't mind angry monkeys throwing crap at you. They had to close outdoor restaurants, because the monkeys would steal or contaminate people's food.

 

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:43:25 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:

Michael Terrell wrote...

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits
over a huge Aquifer. If you blast into the rock to create
a basement, you will likely end up with a sinkhole.

What about homes built on thick beds of sand / gravel?
Some are on hills of the stuff, can they have a basement?

This is the kind of thing they do down there:

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/fpl-wins-battle-to-store-radioactive-waste-under-miamis-drinking-water-aquifer-9059210

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-bill-allows-sewage-dumping-in-drinking-water-aquifers-10159304

Then the inhabitants have been disposing of trash and hazmat into sinkholes for ages. The sinkhole contamination goes right into the aquifers.

--
Thanks,
- Win

 

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 1:41:34 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Whoey Louie wrote...

"It is likely that the increase in Atlantic tropical storm
and hurricane frequency is primarily due to improved monitoring."

Excuse me, we now realize that a cat 4 or 5 storm
has hit, only because we have better monitoring?

Comparing barometric pressure of hurricanes making landfall might
be a better comparison, if we assume the earlier hurricanes were
as equally instrumented by diligent observers.

No, just 'adequately instrumented' is good enough. The diligence of past weather
observers is NOT an assumption, it is knowledge. Knowledge doesn't fade
when we forget its gatherers, nowadays; we publish the good stuff and keep
archives.

Much of humanity is literate, and has been for longer than personal computers
and the worldwide web.

equally (instrumented by diligent observers), not
(equally instrumented) + (equally diligent).

I just meant that America was sparsely populated, e.g. Florida. Early
landfalls might've gone completely unnoticed, or at least without any
barometer-jockeys close at hand, racing to measure the eye.

I don't think they worried about these things as much back then.

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/09/02 1:19 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 11:53:26 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com
wrote:

I don't consider Wikipedia to be a primary source, however the NOAA
keeps a list of land-fall hurricanes and it paints a slightly different
picture:

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html

Read the bottom comments as well. The information is only as valid once
someone was there to record it so they have scant records prior to 1851...

Atlantic Hurricane Numbers By Year: 1851-2017
http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm
Scroll to the bottom of the list. Sure looks like a general increase
in the number of "names storms" and "hurricanes" since 1995, but not
so much for "major hurricanes".

Named Storms = Tropical Storms, Hurricanes and Subtropical Storms
Hurricanes = Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale 1 to 5
Major Hurricanes = Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale 3, 4, or 5

Always go to the source!

May the source be with you.

The data source is mentioned at the bottom of the page, but I couldn't
find the document mentioned. I could convert the data to a graph for
those reader anticipating a "dog leg".

As usual, there might be a conspiracy theory involved in the alleged
increasing severity of hurricanes. There seems to be a connection
between the storm category number and the availability of federal aid
and assistance. Bigger numbers seem to get more which makes it
beneficial to escalate the category numbers (number creep):
https://gh.bmj.com/content/4/1/e001191
Hurricane Maria was only a Cat 4, so Puerto Rico is complaining that
aid was inadequate and slow. Next disaster, they'll go for a Cat 5
and maybe they'll get more and quicker aid.

And who exactly is Stormfax.com? They have no contact info, no names
associated with them, no list of source documents, no list of
contributors. All their registration info is behind a privacy shield.

I could go on, but why would you consider them to be a reliable source?

At least Wikipedia gives you the names of the people who edit the
articles there.

Sorry Jeff, I don't consider Stormfax to be a valid source. They could
be shills for anyone...

Now you can get a copy of A Christmas Story from them:

https://www.stormfax.com/1dickens.htm

Not sure what else is hidden there - let's see...

Drought page - which you can't get to via their menu either:

https://www.stormfax.com/drought.htm

Thanksgiving origins:

https://www.stormfax.com/thanksgv.htm

John :-#(#

 

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3d270ce2-08c1-4e82-abbf-2f3cdae01063@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Did you hurry out to get a right earring just after or did you
already have one?

I don't wear earrings, you sick queer. You have me confused with
your boyfriend that works the streets with you as tranny hookers.

Nice job of posting the fucked up line you posted which prompted
the joke.

Good job of being the too old to defend yourself punk fuck we all
know you to be too.

I am not gay, and the joke was because *you* made a funny typo.
But you jacking off at the mouth like this is yet another indicator
of your lackings.

Sick queer? I'd solve your fucked up molar / jaw problem with my
handy dandy baseball bat, fucktard. No more pain.

Naaah... better if some 'tranny hooker' (funny that *you* are
familiar with them) found you and bashed your retarded homophobic
haed in. That is what a punk fuck like you needs. You make America
shitty, and you have all your pathetic life, TERRELL.

 

Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote in news:qkjusp02ol3
@drn.newsguy.com:

Michael Terrell wrote...

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits
over a huge Aquifer. If you blast into the rock to create
a basement, you will likely end up with a sinkhole.

What about homes built on thick beds of sand / gravel?
Some are on hills of the stuff, can they have a basement?

Not many hills, but the few there are could support 'basements'.

Most of the state sits on sand and water is what you hit when you
dig.

I wonder how Arabia and the Chinese are building entire Islands
using sand. How could they be stable? Are they putting polymers in
the sand? Making a 'concrete' as it were?

 

[Banders]

On 09/02/2019 05:46 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

Winfield Hill's Monday, September 2, 2019 post cut:
Michael Terrell wrote...

No, you don't understand the geology of Florida. It sits over a
huge Aquifer.

Florida sits on a dissolving honeycomb of limestone.

<https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/rosetta-stones/living-and-sometimes-dying-with-karst/>

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/fpl-wins-battle-to-store-radioactive-waste-under-miamis-drinking-water-aquifer-9059210


https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-bill-allows-sewage-dumping-in-drinking-water-aquifers-10159304

Just, *WOW* !

 

>Yes, but I haven't seen many homes with basements, and they were >all on hills.

Florida is a funny place to me. I had a friend in Orlando, who later bought a house in Longwood which is one of the more affluent communities. He said Maitland was even better, Jews live there.

But don't stand in one spot outside because of fire ants, he said watch for certain snakes and if I see them just get away.

Everything is built on a slab. Orlando and Ocala are sort of the high ground there and it ain't so high.

If you want a basement you need serious walls because of the pressure of the water. I think really if you want a basement you have to waterproof it before you even build it. Double thick cinderblock with rebar and filled with mortar, then just utility brick on the outside will do you. But the cost. It's like the cost of three basements up here.

One area was getting flooded all the time, someone made a business out of putting people's houses up on stilts. I shit you not. Then they had a nice big garage or at least carport underneath. Their cars may flood but at least not their bedroom.

I prefer it here. I am in the basement right now. It is always cool, in July there were days I had to put on a hoodie down here - I was actually cold in July. the house has A/C and of course the cold air was falling down here, and the plenum leaks a little but when it is so hot out you don't even want to mow the grass it is great.

 

>Most of us are aware how messed up NT is. He's welcome to waste >his life any way he likes, and peddling fatuous opinions on an >unmoderated user-group is his choice. Not a good one.

Do you ever comment on the subject instead of the posters' sanity and mental acuity, neither of which you are qualified to judge anyway ?

Yeah, I am not responding to you, I am responding at you.

Just been too much old Man. We didn't ask for your fucking evaluations.

You are getting to the point I might just retaliate. I am USian, I live war.