Very fast rise time generator...

[Peeler]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:29:09 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> The council (rightly) laughs at you, and fines you for speeding. :-DDD

Intelligent people LAUGH at you idiotic troll-feeding senile ASSHOLES
infesting these groups! <BG>

 

[Don Y]

On 2/17/2023 6:05 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

You have just illustrated perfectly the paradox that making devices more energy
efficient can have the perverse effect of wasting more energy!

I think, for many devices, that is more the norm than the exception!
The rationale *was* to reduce energy use to teach users to conserve.
But, then they realize the new level of power consumption makes
it MORE CONVENIENT (with little cost) to not be as aggressive in
conservation efforts.

No need to turn off the monitors when you leave the room; they\'ll
EVENTUALLY sleep. Ditto computers. DVR, STB, TV, etc.

I used to have an app that would immediately sleep the monitor(s)
but it failed to be updated with changes in the OS. How much
effort do I expend to find another app? (I found one but it
doesn\'t play nice with the multiple virtual displays I have
configured)

If the computer sleeps \"too soon\", then it\'s a hassle waking it
up and reestablishing any active sessions that have lost their
keep-alives. So, set the timeout to a longer period. If I\'ve
made the mistake of starting a long task in such a session and
haven\'t nohup(1)-ed it, then it\'s wise to alter the sleep
settings unless I plan on being around for the duration!

[I used to work an overnight shift at an IBM facility. The
building kept turning off the lights in my office because I
wasn\'t \"moving around\" enough!]

Original 60W light on for perhaps 1 hour per day - uses  60Whr
New LED  9W light on 24/7             - uses 216Whr

So your energy efficient LED light bulb means you now use 3.5x times as much
energy every day as a result of it not being worth switching off!

But, *that* can be remedied by making it easier to turn on/off.
Other devices don\'t have such accessible \"hooks\". A neighbor has
a motion detector \"light switch\" installed by his front door so
approaching the door (from the inside) illuminates the foyer.
(But, it\'s not smart enough to realize there is no need to do that
during daylight hours!)

I use a replace on fail strategy for my lights (some of which are still CFLs
rather than modern LEDs) so the seldom used lights in spare rooms and the loft
are still incandescent.

Yeah, I have a few up-lights in the office (spare bedroom so no overhead
lighting). I keep hoping the CFL floodlights will crap out so I can replace
them. Silly as the energy wasted keeping them around would go towards
paying for their replacements!

[OTOH, I\'ve had several \"vintage\" LED lights die in my task lighting, there]

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/02/2023 10:44, charles wrote:

In article <tsvh1c$nmp5$5@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/02/2023 22:13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-02-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 12:41:15 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It is quite hard in the UK to get a mortgage on a 100% timber frame.

That would explain the Soviet style apartment blocks I see in British
films. Some attempt to dress up the poured concrete construction with
limited success.

The word you\'re looking for is brutalism. It was/is a style:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

Almost all new construction in this area is platform
framed wood construction, sheathed with OSB, wrapped in Tyvek, and some
sort of decorative siding applied. The exception is multistory commercial
buildings.

It\'s about how this country was settled: plenty of timber, no
restrictions on cutting it on your own property; easy for the
yeoman-farmer to build with, especially since there were all
those felled trees left from clearing the virgin forest.

It\'s not a bad material. The oldest surviving timber-frame house
in the U.S. was built in about 1640.

There\'s quite a few older than that in the UK.

Indeed, the \"Big House\" in our village has been found to be based on a
timber-framed structure from the 15th C. Timber is still there..

\"Dating from 1395, The Crooked House in Lavenham sits at the heart of
Britain’s best-preserved medieval village and is the inspiration behind
the famous nursery rhyme.\"

https://www.historichouses.org/house/the-crooked-house-lavenham/visit/

However the problem is that the statistics show that eventually nearly
all of them catch fire.

And there is nothing left to rebuild.

The domesday book mentioned hall across the road from me here, caught
fire about 25 years ago as they were \'renovating it\'.

But there is a lot of the 15th century timber framed house still left.
The original 1066 or thereabouts manor may be in there somewhere.

The estate is anglo saxon.

I think there are a few houses in the Downland Museum that are Dark
ages. But they are repros. I dont think any actual example that was
taken down and moved there, dates from much before 1400.

The oldest houses I know of in the UK are stone, at Skara Brae.

\"The site was occupied from roughly 3180 BC to about 2500 BC and is
Europe\'s most complete Neolithic village. Skara Brae gained UNESCO World
Heritage Site status as one of four sites making up \"The Heart of
Neolithic Orkney\". Older than Stonehenge and the Great Pyramids of Giza,
it has been called the \"Scottish Pompeii\" because of its excellent
preservation\"

-Wiki
--
\"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him.\"

- Leo Tolstoy

 

[Martin Brown]

On 15/02/2023 10:48, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:

Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

The remaining big power hog is the garage lights.

Your fridge is a big power hog. Set the refrigerator temperature to the
highest setting, usually around 45 degrees F or 7 degrees C. This is an
excellent temperature for keeping vegetables, especially potatoes.

UK fridges are much less of a power hog than US ones. The power it takes
to keep cool depends mostly on how often it gets opened and how full it
is. 4C is a widely recognised safe temperature for storing uncooked meat
and fish much above that and you are asking for trouble.

Set the freezer to -14 F or -10 C. Once the temerature is below freezing, it
doesn\'t matter how cold it is.

Yes it does! Frozen stuff keeps much longer at -18C than at -10C.

Also -18C gives you some leeway when there is a powercut provided you
keep the freezer door shut. I can see the power consumption in realtime
from fridge and freezer when they are on. They would only be a problem
if the insulation gets compromised (as happened to a previous unit).
Then the compressor is on almost permanently fighting a thermal bridge.

Replace filament bulbs with LEDs. The power savings is amazing. For example,
a 100 W LED bulb only draws 12 watts. A 60 W LED bulb only draws 9 watts.

LED bulbs are a win but they have been a win for nearly a decade now. I
doubt if anyone has a significant number of filament bulbs in use today.
Even so the lighting circuits are trivial when compared to cookers and
water heaters (which is our single biggest heavy load if the central
heating isn\'t on).

This is low enough that I keep the one in the bathroom turned on all the
time. The main switch is in an awkward location, and I hate having to search
for it in the dark.

That sounds like a very good reason to move the switch or install a
proper night light! You can even get motion activated ones - no switch
at all.

I have a battery powered one on my front door - it lasts about a year on
3xC cells in regular use.

--
Martin Brown

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:41:54 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 04:12:55 +0000, Brian Gregory
void-invalid...@email.invalid> wrote:

I think they mean 2kW/person.

The average US household uses an average of about 1200 watts
electrical. So a \"goal\" of 2 KW per person would be strange.

Household use is NOT use. Household plus transit plus agriculture
plus all the other essentials that aren\'t on the house\'s electric meter, is
the energy use total that\'s being considered.

 

[SteveW]

On 22/02/2023 18:16, retired at home wrote:

On 2/22/23 12:56 PM, Max Demian wrote:
On 22/02/2023 16:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/02/2023 14:43, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 08:00:33 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 00:42:13 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:37:43 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Rotary took fucking ages to dial long distance.  And a very long
time
to dial the UK emergency 999.  Should have been 111.

That was designed to prevent cats from dialing the emergency
services.
At least the US went for 911.

It would be very unlikely for a cat to happen to dial 1 repeatedly.

Never had a cat, did you?

  with tone dialling its a cinch

Do cats purr in DTMF?


911 can  be a problem on a PBX with \"dial 9 for an outside line\". People
dial 9, then 1 to start a Long Distance call, somehow hit a second 1 and
there you go

Also police get \"butt-dialed\" 911 calls all the time from users who
don\'t lock their keypads

Back when we used mobile phones with buttons on the front, my company
phone allowed you to lock the keypad by pressing * and # together - but
some complete idiot decided that having the phone locked and unable to
dial 999 was a safety risk, so holding 9 caused it to call the emergency
services ... and sitting and keeping the 9 pressed was far more likely
than dialling 999 and pressing green, while it was in your pocket!

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-02-15, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 15/02/2023 11:40, Max Demian wrote:
On 14/02/2023 18:31, SteveW wrote:
On 14/02/2023 17:35, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 12/02/2023 21:42, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I know someone who can\'t tell left from right without touching herself.

When I was a kid I used to look as the small mole on my right hand to
remind myself. It didn\'t help that I when I as taught to write it was
\"No, the other hand\"... These days I have no trouble with left or
right, nor port and starboard, or clockwise, or any of the others.

Turnwise and Widdershins? Yes the latter is a genuine wo

Deiseil is more common for clockwise, or sunwise, sunward. (These
alternative names are only needed when discussing the origin of the
direction of clock hands.)

Widdershins is the only one I *have* heard of. Turnwise, Deiseil,
Sunwise/Ward - can\'t say I\'ve ever heard of those.

Clockwise is all very well until you see a clock like this

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0602/4056/0354/products/OldPeculierBackwardClock-TheTheakston-29-07-22-4530.jpg?v=1660143292

which is a very \"peculier\" way of telling the time. The one I have used
a conventional self-contained quartz clock mechanism (ie no after-market
1:1 gears to reverse the direction) which suggests that they had the
mechanisms specially made - maybe with the stepper motor wired the
opposite way round.


It had never actually occurred to me until now that \"clockwise\" is the
same way that the sun appears to move in the sky, so the hour hand will
follow the sun (except at double speed). I must have been singularly
incurious to accept what \"clockwise\" meant without relating it to the
direction of movement of the sun.

Think about sundials for just a moment.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[SteveW]

On 17/02/2023 19:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2023-02-17 12:52, NY wrote:
I wish cars would standardise on putting the hazard lights switch on
the end of one or other of the stalks, rather than putting it in some
arbitrary position on the dashboard. It means the driver can hit the
hazard lights switch without having to take his hands off the wheel
and his eyes off the road; the downside is that it can\'t be reached by
a passenger. On my Peugeot 306, I learned how to reach the switch
without taking my eyes off the road

Here it is apparently illegal to switch on those lights if the car is
moving. Thus, no reason to put the switch on the stalks.

Except that manufacturers like to use the same systems throughout all
their markets and here (and possibly in some other countries), there can
be reason to put them on while moving.

Here, it was was illegal to do so, but people sometimes did and
government recognised that it was actually a good idea and changed the law.

It is now a legal and recognised sign to following drivers, on a fast
road, such as a motorway or dual-carriageway, that you are approaching
standing traffic and slowing quickly to a stop. As such it needs to be
activated quickly and without having to take your eyes off the road.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 08:03:56 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 14/02/2023 18:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 09:05:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 13/02/2023 21:08, SteveW wrote:
I\'ve never understood people who get left and right confused. I can
never remember which of the two is port and starboard (*), but left
and right are as ingrained in the \"immediate lookup table\" in my brain
as counting, addition and the days of the week are.

Two friends of mine took part in a driving challenge, part of which
involved driving a course blindfolded, with the passenger giving
directions. They had to resort to \"your side\" and \"my side\".

Probably apocryphal, but in the American civil war, the Confederate farm
boys had a piece of straw tied to one foot and hay to the other and were
drilled as \'Hayfoot!Strawfoot!\' etc.

They did know straw from hay, but not left from right. So the story
goes. Probably a lie. Most stories are.

In SW Louisiana the local language was Cajun French, not very
intelligible to Parisians. In WWII draftees were forced to speak
English, which contributed to the decline of French in Louisiana.

Try speaking Afrikaans in Holland, they will understand you, but laugh.

The Dutch aren\'t the kindest people.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:16:17 -0000, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

On 2/15/23 08:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

The point is that they are not at the same voltage. ,

By an insignificant amount. If I draw the full 100A from my house feed,
I drop 4 volts.

I seem to remember that in the US, the voltage drop is considered OK if
it is no more than 5V (I\'m not sure if that\'s on 120V or 240V).

5V is never harmful.

 

[Carlos E. R.]

On 2023-02-17 22:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:50:00 -0000, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:54:41 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-02-11 13:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 12:03:39 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-02-11 10:34, Brian Gaff wrote:
I\'m sure the modern ones will work any way around you wanted. If you
don\'t
like it simply do a head stand before you change them.

My main question, however is why are some breakers so sensitive they
trip
more often than others?
  I think they are way too complex now with earth leakage as well as
just
looking for overloads.

Here all houses have mandatorily a whole house RCD. Since many years.

And if you don\'t have one you what?  Go to jail?

You do not get electricity.

Remind me never to live in that communist state.  It really is none
of anyone\'s business how safe you are.

It is, however, their business if the electrical problem
causes a fire that burns down half the town, or takes out
a condominium project or flats.

An RCD does not prevent fire or shorting the power source.  It is only
there to protect someone in your own house from a shock.  Please learn
what the different devices actually do before making such a stupid
statement.

It can prevent a fire if the fault is a resistance that heats
sufficiently connected accidentally between live and earth, at the metal
chassis, which has not sufficient current to blow the fuse.

just an example.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:03:29 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, senile BIGMOUTH, blathered:

Never had a cat, did you?

You STILL have no one in RL who wants to listen to you and your endless
bullshit, senile sucker of troll cock?

I you guys behaved like this in real life, in your local pub, you\'d
get home on a stretcher. Of course, you don\'t have the balls to be
this obnoxious in real life, or to even use your real name on usenet.

Tell us your name. Show us some electronics. Post an original
schematic.

Oh, lookie! lowbrowwoman, the resident grandiloquent bigmouth, has a fan!
LOL One bigmouth sticking to another bigmouth! No surprise! LOL

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 14/02/2023 18:10, SteveW wrote:

Our house was perfectly legal before we had it re-wired. It had actual
wire fuses, and rubber coated wiring running through the thatched roof.

And would have remained perfectly acceptable (assuming no serious
deterioration), over the coming years.

It was legal. It was _not_ acceptable to our insurance company. No idea
what the POs did, but I wouldn\'t be surprised if they didn\'t have it
properly insured.

\"The wiring needs urgent attention\" said our surveyor. He was actually
surprised we bought it - on his advice we\'d rejected a previous house.
But that one had several items of the sort \"Take that apart, and you\'ll
be able to see what it will cost\". This one had no unknown items. We did
find a couple, but nothing major.

Andy

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:21:46 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:54:25 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:48:20 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 18:28:02 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:03:34 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:38:47 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Too much health and softy nowadays. But they always get it wrong. For example they fuss about silly little things in cars, but allow 3 door cars where the rear passengers can\'t get out in a crash. And no mudguards so on a wet motorway nobody can see where they\'re going.

In America, they are crazy about GFCI (their name for ELCB) to compensate for their stupid plugs and sockets. The sockets have no switch, and the plugs have no sleeves on the pins, so you\'re always exposing live (sorry, hot, yes they really call it that) and neutral to your fingers.

I can\'t tease my US plug such that I can get shocked,

Yes you can, unless you have enormously thick farmer\'s fingers.

and 120 would only tickle anyhow.

So why fuss over breakers?

GFCI outlets are required here in kitchens and bathrooms, near faucets
and tubs, and in places like garages where one might stand barefoot on
wet concrete.

Required by who?

The city electrical code.

Regulations. Code implies encryption, if Merkins are to socialise with the rest of the world, they need to learn to use English correctly.

We own the language now. Tiny old monarchies and former empires don\'t
matter much any more.

Then call it \"American\". Why do you continue to refer to it as \"English\"?

 

[Carlos E. R.]

On 2023-02-19 23:13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-02-19, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 12:41:15 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It is quite hard in the UK to get a mortgage on a 100% timber frame.

That would explain the Soviet style apartment blocks I see in British
films. Some attempt to dress up the poured concrete construction with
limited success.

The word you\'re looking for is brutalism. It was/is a style:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

Almost all new construction in this area is platform
framed wood construction, sheathed with OSB, wrapped in Tyvek, and some
sort of decorative siding applied. The exception is multistory commercial
buildings.

It\'s about how this country was settled: plenty of timber, no
restrictions on cutting it on your own property; easy for the
yeoman-farmer to build with, especially since there were all
those felled trees left from clearing the virgin forest.

It\'s not a bad material. The oldest surviving timber-frame house
in the U.S. was built in about 1640.

Not much wood in Spain, and not of building quality. A lot has to be
imported.

My house is all stone, mortar and bricks, and iron, except wood beams
supporting the roof tiles, made from Canadian pines.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 14/02/2023 20:40, NY wrote:

Yes, I imagine that the lack of gender and the lack of word-ending
agreement, and the separate \"little words\" (prepositions, articles,
pronouns) as opposed to conveying those things in word endings - all
those are things that probably make it easier. English is probably an
easy language to *speak* (when you can use a subset of the vocabulary)
but a hard language to *understand* when people use unusual vocabulary
or make subtle distinctions between words and/or phrases which might be
the same in another language.

The summary I\'ve heard is that it\'s quite easy to get to a level in
English where you can be understood.

But really hard to get it correct.

Some other languages are harder to be understood in, but easier to get
it right.

Then of course there\'s the Finno-Ugric group... (My wife is a linguist.
I\'m not)

Andy

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:21:46 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:54:25 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:48:20 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 18:28:02 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:03:34 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 09:38:47 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

Too much health and softy nowadays. But they always get it wrong. For example they fuss about silly little things in cars, but allow 3 door cars where the rear passengers can\'t get out in a crash. And no mudguards so on a wet motorway nobody can see where they\'re going.

In America, they are crazy about GFCI (their name for ELCB) to compensate for their stupid plugs and sockets. The sockets have no switch, and the plugs have no sleeves on the pins, so you\'re always exposing live (sorry, hot, yes they really call it that) and neutral to your fingers.

I can\'t tease my US plug such that I can get shocked,

Yes you can, unless you have enormously thick farmer\'s fingers.

and 120 would only tickle anyhow.

So why fuss over breakers?

GFCI outlets are required here in kitchens and bathrooms, near faucets
and tubs, and in places like garages where one might stand barefoot on
wet concrete.

Required by who?

The city electrical code.

Regulations. Code implies encryption, if Merkins are to socialise with the rest of the world, they need to learn to use English correctly.

We own the language now. Tiny old monarchies and former empires don\'t
matter much any more.

You haven\'t changed anything, what you\'ve done is keep our old version from when you fled from the UK billions of years ago. We used to write sulfur, you still do. We have evolved, you have not.

 

[Dan Purgert]

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Steam locomotive drivers are sprung. It\'s just that the suspension is
inboard of the wheels (as opposed to freight cars and diesel locomotives
where the suspension is on the outside).

On many locos its on the outside

Not so much in the US (but then again, I\'m only *really* familiar with
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[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:50:00 -0000, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:54:41 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-02-11 13:24, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 12:03:39 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-02-11 10:34, Brian Gaff wrote:
I\'m sure the modern ones will work any way around you wanted. If you
don\'t
like it simply do a head stand before you change them.

My main question, however is why are some breakers so sensitive they
trip
more often than others?
I think they are way too complex now with earth leakage as well as
just
looking for overloads.

Here all houses have mandatorily a whole house RCD. Since many years.

And if you don\'t have one you what? Go to jail?

You do not get electricity.

Remind me never to live in that communist state. It really is none of anyone\'s business how safe you are.

It is, however, their business if the electrical problem
causes a fire that burns down half the town, or takes out
a condominium project or flats.

An RCD does not prevent fire or shorting the power source. It is only there to protect someone in your own house from a shock. Please learn what the different devices actually do before making such a stupid statement.

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 14/02/2023 20:03, NY wrote:

Is it like Dutch windmills were all designed to rotate (I think)
anti-clockwise, and this means that most modern wind turbines rotate
that way?

Huh? The ones over the hill from use are clockwise.... Oh. Do you mean
as seen from the front, or the back?

Andy