USB TV Tuner

On 28-April-2012 8:59 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

"Krypsis = Krackpot"


For the record, I was thinking,
** You have never done that - ever.

Fuck off NUT CASE !!
LOL! look who's talkin!
 
"felix_unger"
"Krypsis = Krackpot"


For the record, I was thinking,
** You have never done that - ever.

Fuck off NUT CASE !!

LOL! look who's talkin!

** FFS - look what piece of autistic excreta just poked its head out the
sewer.

Peeeeuuuukkkkeee...........



..... Phil
 
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote

Where we live now, 100% of houses have
MHAs coz you don't get reception otherwise.

That is however a minority of domestic non block of flats situation.

Depends on your situation,

Nope.

drive around our town and you'll see MHAs on 97% of antennas.

And even you should have noticed that that armpit of a town
is a microscopic subset of the total domestic non block of flats
situations in the entire country.

nope, a significant proportion of the population live in similar areas.
Pigs arse they do.

All our channels are on UHF

And that's why mast head amps are worth having,
because of the loss in the cable with UHF.

Not necessarily,
Fraid so.

when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF,
we couldn't get a usable signal without a MHA even
with less than 10 metres on antenna cable.
Irrelevant to why mast head amps are worthwhile in your new town.

That is however a minority of the total domestic
non block of flats situations in the entire country.

at a distance of about 30Km from the transmitter
with several lumps of terrain between.

Irrelevant to what the mast head amps are there for.
 
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

There is no control by one tuning TV on and suddenly not getting
digital reception (still get analouge but not digital 7,70,72 etc).

You were the one too stupid to notice that the
7 mux was very marginal with your antenna etc.

Still using an old Antenna Thing
And likely its very marginal for the 7 mux and you havent even noticed.

is why does everything work perfectly for three years.
Then just goes off (the Antenna hasn't moved)
Because it was very marginal for the 7 mux and
you didn't even notice until it dropped out.

Do you know how to see what signal level and
signal quality you are getting with each mux ?

Have been considering a new Aerial
It may be that the 7 mux is pretty marginal
at your place regardless of antenna.

That might be fixed by a better antenna
or even just by pointing it better.
 
Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote

You'll have noted that channels below 6 have been excluded
hence the upswing in the spectrum that I mentioned.

Nope, because the entire UHF band is above those
in the spectrum so your original is just plain wrong.

You'll have also noted that most analogue antennae are VHF
and UHF combined. One section for VHF, one for UHF. The
VHF section will have issues, the UHF may or may not have
issues. Then again, you probably wouldn't have noticed anyway!
You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
 
Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
SG1 <lostit@the.races.com> wrote
Harry <harry@unreal.mail.com> wrote

Recently bought USB TV Tuner: Compro Videomate U620F

Finding that only ABC and SBS is picked up with included antenna.

This is not so bad since the other channels are mostly rubbish, but I
have a few questions:

1. Do the ABC and SBS broadcast stronger signals because they are
government channels and they are required to provide a service?

Possibly

Fraid not. Our SBS was MUCH lower power than all the rest.

2. What influence does the length of the rabbit ears of indoor TV
antennas have on reception?

The bigger the better.

Nope, not with UHF channels.

3. What influence does electricity-powered signal amplification have on
reception?

Can't comment on that one.

4. Do external house antennas rely on electricity?

Only those with signal amplifiers.

5. What would be the best way to improve reception using an indoor
antenna? Antenna size/length? Electricity powered signal amplification?

Hook up to an external antenna, the house should have one.

Not necessarily one that does UHF tho.

My antenna for the loungeroom is VHF only but picks up UHF quite fine on
either analogue or digital. Don't have anything special for UHF.
Some do, some don't.

Line of sight to transmitters however.
Nothing to do with that with digital TV.
 
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:55:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

is why does everything work perfectly for three years.
Then just goes off (the Antenna hasn't moved)

Because it was very marginal for the 7 mux and
you didn't even notice until it dropped out.

Do you know how to see what signal level and
signal quality you are getting with each mux ?

Each TV station on my TV shows signal strength (mux) all in Digital
were showing 80% (red,orange,green bars) 7 was more than ˝ way in
green zone. Then nothing.

Have been considering a new Aerial

It may be that the 7 mux is pretty marginal
at your place regardless of antenna.

That might be fixed by a better antenna
or even just by pointing it better.

The Antenna is old but I can't work out why signal strength
disappeared completely like it was turned off. Suggests something
blocking it? Yet I have clear line of site to Centrepoint.
I rarely watch 7 group at any rate so not motivated in doing anything
right now.
I'm waiting for the NBN to hook up and get PROPER TV from USA and it's
cheap.
--
Petzl
 
"keith ratbag = LIAR "

Not necessarily, when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we
couldn't get a usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres
on antenna cable.

** Do not believe this LIAR.

His claims are deliberately false and / or missing crucial details.

MHA are not of any use with such short cable runs.



..... Phil
 
On 28/04/2012 2:19 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"keith ratbag = LIAR"

Not necessarily, when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we
couldn't get a usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres
on antenna cable.


** Do not believe this LIAR.

His claims are deliberately false and / or missing crucial details.

MHA are not of any use with such short cable runs.
Have fun explaining why it was virtually impossible to get a picture
without the MHA. There is a difference between a mast head amp and a
distribution amp as used in blocks of flats in case you didn't know.
 
On 28/04/2012 12:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
All our channels are on UHF

And that's why mast head amps are worth having, because of the loss
in the cable with UHF.

Not necessarily,

Fraid so.
when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we couldn't get a
usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres on antenna
cable.

Irrelevant to why mast head amps are worthwhile in your new town.
Where I live, mast head amps are not just worthwhile, they are essential,

That is however a minority of the total domestic non block of flats
situations in the entire country.

at a distance of about 30Km from the transmitter with several lumps
of terrain between.

Irrelevant to what the mast head amps are there for.
 
"keith ratbag = LIAR"
Not necessarily, when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we
couldn't get a usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres
on antenna cable.


** Do not believe this LIAR.

His claims are deliberately false and / or missing crucial details.

MHA are not of any use with such short cable runs.

Have fun explaining why it was virtually impossible to get a picture
without the MHA. There is a difference between a mast head amp and a
distribution amp as used in blocks of flats in case you didn't know.

** Do not believe this LIAR.

His claims are deliberately false and / or missing crucial details.

MHA are not of any use with such short cable runs.



..... Phil
 
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

is why does everything work perfectly for three years.
Then just goes off (the Antenna hasn't moved)

Because it was very marginal for the 7 mux and
you didn't even notice until it dropped out.

Do you know how to see what signal level and
signal quality you are getting with each mux ?

Each TV station on my TV shows signal strength (mux) all in Digital
were showing 80% (red,orange,green bars) 7 was more than ˝ way in
green zone. Then nothing.
What about the signal quality.

Have been considering a new Aerial

It may be that the 7 mux is pretty marginal
at your place regardless of antenna.

That might be fixed by a better antenna
or even just by pointing it better.

The Antenna is old but I can't work out why signal
strength disappeared completely like it was turned off.
It may be they changed the transmitter producing that mux.

Suggests something blocking it?
That's possible. You can get the effect of a trap at that frequency with a
fault.

Did your neighbours lose the 7 mux when you did ?

Yet I have clear line of site to Centrepoint. I rarely watch 7 group
at any rate so not motivated in doing anything right now.
What little I do watch of the commercial channels I do normally watch that
more the 9 and more than 10 in spades. I watch fuck all on the 10 group.

I'm waiting for the NBN to hook up
Taint gunna happen for you, like I said. They only have 15 months
and are rolling out sweet fuck all at the moment because they are
waiting for the agreement with Telstra to get signed and approved
by the ACCC so they can do it cheaper. You aint gunna get it, you watch.

and get PROPER TV from USA
Yes, that would happen if it ever did happen. But it wont.

and it's cheap.
That wont happen. And all you would have got is whats on PayTV right now.
 
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote

Not necessarily, when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we
couldn't get a usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres
on antenna cable.

Do not believe this LIAR.

His claims are deliberately false and / or missing crucial details.

MHA are not of any use with such short cable runs.

Have fun explaining why it was virtually impossible to get a picture
without the MHA. There is a difference between a mast head amp and a
distribution amp as used in blocks of flats in case you didn't know.
No there isnt on how they work in poor signal areas.

If there is fuck all signal at that antenna connector,
no mast head amp will do a damned thing about that.

If the signal at the antenna connector is barely adequate,
a mast head amp does avoid any loss at all in the cable
and that can see an adequate signal at the TV etc.

That's why you see that effect with a mast head amp in poor signal areas.
 
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote

All our channels are on UHF

And that's why mast head amps are worth having, because of the loss in
the cable with UHF.

Not necessarily,

Fraid so.

when we lived in Berowra, and had analog TV on VHF, we couldn't get a
usable signal without a MHA even with less than 10 metres on antenna
cable.

Irrelevant to why mast head amps are worthwhile in your new town.

Where I live, mast head amps are not just worthwhile, they are essential,
That's because the antenna needs to be at a decent height in that
area an that means that there is a decent run of cable to the TV etc
and so a substantial loss in the cable because its UHF. So its worth
using a mast head amp so there is no loss in the cable at all.

That is however a minority of the total domestic non block of flats
situations in the entire country.

at a distance of about 30Km from the transmitter with several lumps of
terrain between.

Irrelevant to what the mast head amps are there for.
 
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:23:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

is why does everything work perfectly for three years.
Then just goes off (the Antenna hasn't moved)

Because it was very marginal for the 7 mux and
you didn't even notice until it dropped out.

Do you know how to see what signal level and
signal quality you are getting with each mux ?

Each TV station on my TV shows signal strength (mux) all in Digital
were showing 80% (red,orange,green bars) 7 was more than ˝ way in
green zone. Then nothing.

What about the signal quality.

The picture was very clear almost 3D effect
Can only measure strength with TV for each channel frequency. TV also
gives the frequency range.
Don't have anything for determining quality or even know of one

Have been considering a new Aerial

It may be that the 7 mux is pretty marginal
at your place regardless of antenna.

That might be fixed by a better antenna
or even just by pointing it better.

The Antenna is old but I can't work out why signal
strength disappeared completely like it was turned off.

It may be they changed the transmitter producing that mux.

Suggests something blocking it?

That's possible. You can get the effect of a trap at that frequency with a
fault.

Did your neighbours lose the 7 mux when you did ?

My immediate neighbour's just use Analogue and Fox

Yet I have clear line of site to Centrepoint. I rarely watch 7 group
at any rate so not motivated in doing anything right now.

What little I do watch of the commercial channels I do normally watch that
more the 9 and more than 10 in spades. I watch fuck all on the 10 group.

Can watch 7 in analogue if I have to

I'm waiting for the NBN to hook up

Taint gunna happen for you, like I said. They only have 15 months
and are rolling out sweet fuck all at the moment because they are
waiting for the agreement with Telstra to get signed and approved
by the ACCC so they can do it cheaper. You aint gunna get it, you watch.

Well according to NBN I'll have it by then.

and get PROPER TV from USA

Yes, that would happen if it ever did happen. But it wont.

Won't know what's happening in OZ any more

and it's cheap.

That wont happen. And all you would have got is whats on PayTV right now.

Well I suspect Telstra will also object if the NBN was stopped

Quick Telstra summary:
No share buy-back for the time being
$0.28 dividend to be maintained for FY12 and FY13
Board is aiming to increase dividends in FY14 and beyond
This is subject to the timing of the NBN rollout, the reduction in
revenue from the fixed line business, and the various issues such as
regulatory and *political challenges* the company will continue to
face.
--
Petzl
 
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

is why does everything work perfectly for three years.
Then just goes off (the Antenna hasn't moved)

Because it was very marginal for the 7 mux and
you didn't even notice until it dropped out.

Do you know how to see what signal level and
signal quality you are getting with each mux ?

Each TV station on my TV shows signal strength (mux)
all in Digital were showing 80% (red,orange,green bars)
7 was more than ˝ way in green zone. Then nothing.

What about the signal quality.

The picture was very clear almost 3D effect
I don't mean that. Most digital TV devices display a bar and
number for both signal level and signal quality, so two bars.
Some just label them signal and quality.

Can only measure strength with TV for each channel frequency.
TV also gives the frequency range.
Don't have anything for determining quality or even know of one
That's unusual with digital TV.

Is that another Aldi Medion ?

Have been considering a new Aerial

It may be that the 7 mux is pretty marginal
at your place regardless of antenna.

That might be fixed by a better antenna
or even just by pointing it better.

The Antenna is old but I can't work out why signal
strength disappeared completely like it was turned off.

It may be they changed the transmitter producing that mux.

Suggests something blocking it?

That's possible. You can get the effect of a trap at that frequency with
a fault.
Usually due to water in the cable.

Did your neighbours lose the 7 mux when you did ?

My immediate neighbour's just use Analogue and Fox

Yet I have clear line of site to Centrepoint. I rarely watch 7 group
at any rate so not motivated in doing anything right now.

What little I do watch of the commercial channels I do normally watch
that
more the 9 and more than 10 in spades. I watch fuck all on the 10 group.

Can watch 7 in analogue if I have to

I'm waiting for the NBN to hook up

Taint gunna happen for you, like I said. They only have 15 months
and are rolling out sweet fuck all at the moment because they are
waiting for the agreement with Telstra to get signed and approved
by the ACCC so they can do it cheaper. You aint gunna get it, you watch.

Well according to NBN I'll have it by then.
Bet you wont. They are notorious for rolling out much
later than they initially claimed in a particular area.

And likely Juliar's govt wont even last 15 months anyway.

Bet Thompson will get charged before then and that's the
end of Juliar's govt or one of the others will be caught
fucking little kids like Orkopoulos.

and get PROPER TV from USA

Yes, that would happen if it ever did happen. But it wont.

Won't know what's happening in OZ any more
I read the ABC Just In myself.

and it's cheap.

That wont happen. And all you would have got is whats on PayTV right now.

Well I suspect Telstra will also object if the NBN was stopped
They can object all they like, wont make any difference what so ever.

Quick Telstra summary:
No share buy-back for the time being
$0.28 dividend to be maintained for FY12 and FY13
Board is aiming to increase dividends in FY14 and beyond
This is subject to the timing of the NBN rollout, the reduction in
revenue from the fixed line business, and the various issues such as
regulatory and *political challenges* the company will continue to face.
And Abbott will just yawn and take the axe to the NBN anyway.
 
On 28-April-2012 11:19 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

"felix_unger"
"Krypsis = Krackpot"


For the record, I was thinking,
** You have never done that - ever.

Fuck off NUT CASE !!
LOL! look who's talkin!

** FFS - look what piece of autistic excreta just poked its head out the
sewer.

Peeeeuuuukkkkeee...........



.... Phil
once again.. look who's talkin!
 
On 2012-04-26, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
On 26-April-2012 9:15 PM, atec77 wrote:

On 26/04/2012 8:49 PM, Harry wrote:
Recently bought USB TV Tuner: Compro Videomate U620F

Finding that only ABC and SBS is picked up with included antenna. This
is not so bad since the other channels are mostly rubbish, but I have a
few questions:




trolling removed

what trolling? obviously just wanted info
99 replies, not trolling?


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"felix_unger = CUNT "


FFS - look what piece of autistic excreta just poked its head out the
sewer.

Peeeeuuuukkkkeee...........
 
On 28-April-2012 9:53 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2012-04-26, felix_unger<me@nothere.com> wrote:
On 26-April-2012 9:15 PM, atec77 wrote:

On 26/04/2012 8:49 PM, Harry wrote:
Recently bought USB TV Tuner: Compro Videomate U620F

Finding that only ABC and SBS is picked up with included antenna. This
is not so bad since the other channels are mostly rubbish, but I have a
few questions:



trolling removed
what trolling? obviously just wanted info
99 replies, not trolling?
no he wasn't trolling. if you had bothered to read the replies you would
know that. it's called usenet discussion

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