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[kreed]

On May 2, 12:20 am, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 1 May 2012 06:04:55 -0700 (PDT), kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com
wrote:

But a lot is paid for comment.
We are getting the government big business is paying for "us" to vote
for. Has happened with both sides of the house with media backing one
or the other
Look how right Rudd was on the "Superprofits tax"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-01/mining-tax-makes-good-sense/398...

 <  http://tinyurl.com/co7lrdu 
Not that many listen to the ABC though (although I like ABC channel 24
my main station)

Agree on that - except the ABC constantly pushing the man made global
warming fraud, (and seems it is still pushing it)
long after it had been exposed as a fraud, has finished them for me as
a credible source of anything scientific, political
or news info.

For some time before the 2007 election and some time after they were
basically an ALP and green mouthpiece, were not
impartial at all.

I think you and I are on the same track except on the NBN. Which I see
as a very big plus for Australia.

That is true,

but about the NBN, Why ?
Remember at over $4000 per person, (no doubt will blow out much more)
its also very expensive to set up.

Another very big concern is that something like this under government
control
can easily be designed and optomised to censor content, and also to
track
what websites ever person visits, who they chat with and so on. Conroy
would jump at
something like this. This is a very serious matter

Problem is we don't have a leader. Gillard is a puppet being run by
some shady "back room boys" operation, voters have no say in who is in
control of a Labor government . The "carbon tax" was an initiation of
the "Greens" which shows Gillard has no negotiating skills (The Greens
won't vote with Abbott) No other country has it, this is a bad mistake

New Zealand brought it with Key (like LNP type side of politics) and
it was much lower
than here. It killed the economy and stirred outrage so much they had
to then slash it by 50%

With the Liberals you are voting for someone who *is* in control of
his team. Trouble is you will get Abbott who is negative and not been
convincing of what he would do different. It tells me he knows nothing
about High Speed broadband or how to provide it.
Economically Abbott nor Hockey are showing even a slight clue.

We have MUCH bigger problems in this country than internet service and
they have
to be dealt with first and fast.

With the Greens you get "Christine Milne" they are showing
surprisingly a lot of economic sense.They are showing respect for
their Leader. My problem with them is they seem to preoccupied with
gay and lesbian issues and not being practical on environmental issues
--
Petzl

 

[Rod Speed]

Rob <mesamine@google.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
kreed<kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

I wish that the election would be now,
so we could get it over and done with

Yeah, but its obvious why the independants don't want that.

Yes, anyone involved with Gillard and the ALP will be gone
They know it and want to hang onto the perks for as long as possible.
Be a long time before they see any again, unless they are very young.

Most of them will be flushed where they belong and the
others like Windsor will be completely irrelevant after that.

It will be fascinating to see what the voters do to the Greens too.

Oh yes, Im looking forward to that even more.
These scum are even worse than the ALP. We
need a result similar to QLD for this government.

You probably will get what you wish for.

Absolutely certainly will with the vote TWICE what it is for Labor.

But is Abbott what you wish for?

Leaves Juliar for dead. At least there
will be no carbon tax and no NBN either.

No greens either, you watch.

Abbott is doing a good job in opposition mode,

Yeah, I don't mind him myself.

Bit hyper, I keep wanting to chuck a bucket
of water over him, but other than that...

Too stupid to know anything about broadband, but he has Turdbull for that.

Wouldn't want Turdbull in change of anything that
mattered, he's even more stupidly green than Juliar.

even though he is being ridiculed, this will change once in government
then you will see the other side.

Yeah, OFarrell and Kennett were rather buffons
in opposition but have both done well in govt.

Gunna be interesting to watch how Newman pans out too.

Doubt we will see Labor anywhere that matters for a generation at least.

Yes, that would happen if it ever did happen. But it wont.

and it's cheap.

That wont happen. And all you would have got is whats on PayTV right
now.

Don't know about the capitals where there might be better deals, but in
regional areas about the only places you see lots of
PAY TV dishes or antennas is in housing commission areas. Makes
sense really as those who are working would working so bloody
hard to pay their bills and pay down debt while they still have a job,

probably don't have time to watch TV anyway, and certainly
less and less have money to spend on such luxuries.

Again if you are in shit street living in a housing comission
area on real shit wages (families of these people do assist).
TV is the least cost for entertainment.

Street riots cost even less.

Try living on a dole income.

Not once the govt changes, they'll be out on their lard arses.

Joe Hockey thinks like you
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news-old/joe-hockey-questions-ndis-funding/story-fn3dxiwe-1226342876031
http://tinyurl.com/cqssu46

Great, those bums get more than those on the dole anyway.

The NBN will be even cheaper

Yep, because they will pull the plug on it first chance they get.

can't see why we had to have the NBN

Yeah, it was only to bail out the Dud when no one
was actually stupid enough to tender for his FTTN.

the telco's were slowly putting in place fibre.

And the absolute vast bulk of us have very
decent broadband available if we want it.

How come all of Australia is not covered by a mobile network?

Its cheaper to do the worst of it with satellite.

should this have been a priority of the Labor government?

Didn't need to be, all the places where it makes any economic
sense already have it.

and creat jobs

Fantasy.

It will take many years for value adding and manufacturing, in Australia,
to recover.

I doubt manufacturing ever will. And its fuck all of
the GDP in any modern first world country anyway.

Each country to its own, we should not try to grow rice in a water
restricted country.

It isnt water restricted most of the time.

In spades with the Ord etc.

Like many other things.

Australia has the balance wrong.

Its managed a hell of a lot better than anywhere else.

We didn't even get a recession with the complete
implosion of the entire world financial system, again.

That's one hell of a result and a hell of a lot better
than we managed the last time that happened.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

Pretzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote

But a lot is paid for comment.
We are getting the government big business is paying for "us" to vote
for. Has happened with both sides of the house with media backing one
or the other

Look how right Rudd was on the "Superprofits tax"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-01/mining-tax-makes-good-sense/398...
http://tinyurl.com/co7lrdu

Not that many listen to the ABC though
(although I like ABC channel 24 my main station)

Agree on that - except the ABC constantly pushing the man made global
warming fraud, (and seems it is still pushing it)
long after it had been exposed as a fraud, has finished them for me as
a credible source of anything scientific, political or news info.

For some time before the 2007 election and some time after they were
basically an ALP and green mouthpiece, were not impartial at all.

I think you and I are on the same track except on the NBN.
Which I see as a very big plus for Australia.

That is true,

Nope, most obviously with the ABC.

but about the NBN, Why ?

Because he wants a better broadband than he
currently has and he wants everyone else to
pay for it. He wont be paying for it himself.

Remember at over $4000 per person, (no doubt will
blow out much more) its also very expensive to set up.

Another very big concern is that something like this under
government control can easily be designed and optomised
to censor content, and also to track what websites ever
person visits, who they chat with and so on.

That wont happen.

Conroy would jump at something like this.

He's completely irrelevant in at most 15 months.

This is a very serious matter

Nope. You will always be free to use wireless if you
don't want the govt perving at what you are doing.
You can do that completely anonymously that way.

Problem is we don't have a leader. Gillard is a puppet being run by
some shady "back room boys" operation, voters have no say in who is in
control of a Labor government . The "carbon tax" was an initiation of
the "Greens" which shows Gillard has no negotiating skills (The Greens
won't vote with Abbott) No other country has it, this is a bad mistake

New Zealand brought it with Key (like LNP type side of politics)
and it was much lower than here. It killed the economy and
stirred outrage so much they had to then slash it by 50%

But were too stupid to pull the plug on it completely.

With the Liberals you are voting for someone who *is* in control of
his team. Trouble is you will get Abbott who is negative and not been
convincing of what he would do different. It tells me he knows nothing
about High Speed broadband or how to provide it.
Economically Abbott nor Hockey are showing even a slight clue.

We have MUCH bigger problems in this country than internet service

Yes.

and they have to be dealt with first

Yes.

and fast.

Nope.

With the Greens you get "Christine Milne" they are showing
surprisingly a lot of economic sense.They are showing respect for
their Leader. My problem with them is they seem to preoccupied with
gay and lesbian issues and not being practical on environmental issues

 

[Petzl]

On Tue, 1 May 2012 18:30:13 -0700 (PDT), kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com>
wrote:

I think you and I are on the same track except on the NBN. Which I see
as a very big plus for Australia.

That is true,

but about the NBN, Why ?
Remember at over $4000 per person, (no doubt will blow out much more)
its also very expensive to set up.

Another very big concern is that something like this under government
control
can easily be designed and optomised to censor content, and also to
track
what websites ever person visits, who they chat with and so on. Conroy
would jump at
something like this. This is a very serious matter

1st Rudd Labor under the stimulus plan was to fund the NBN with a

"SuperProfits" tax, the intention was to remove the $7 billion a year
of subsidies from the *BIG* miners while providing subsidies for the
small developing miners. The following is a good explanation
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-01/mining-tax-makes-good-sense/3981624
Gillard Labor have stuffed everything up economically and just don't
have a clue looks like they are running on spin this budget being
fudged and the next budget will be due after election in September
2013 (the guaranteed surplus year) Again a good explanation follows
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3493350.htm

Problem is we don't have a leader. Gillard is a puppet being run by
some shady "back room boys" operation, voters have no say in who is in
control of a Labor government . The "carbon tax" was an initiation of
the "Greens" which shows Gillard has no negotiating skills (The Greens
won't vote with Abbott) No other country has it, this is a bad mistake


New Zealand brought it with Key (like LNP type side of politics) and
it was much lower
than here. It killed the economy and stirred outrage so much they had
to then slash it by 50%

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars under
the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters. NZ has
withdrawn from it (AFAIK)

With the Liberals you are voting for someone who *is* in control of
his team. Trouble is you will get Abbott who is negative and not been
convincing of what he would do different. It tells me he knows nothing
about High Speed broadband or how to provide it.
Economically Abbott nor Hockey are showing even a slight clue.


We have MUCH bigger problems in this country than internet service and
they have to be dealt with first and fast.

Turnbull has invested millions on the NBN being successful. Abbott is

jus being obscene. I don't believe him and so far he's not shown a
clue to bring Australia to recovery (not that Gillard is either)

With the Greens you get "Christine Milne" they are showing
surprisingly a lot of economic sense.They are showing respect for
their Leader. My problem with them is they seem to preoccupied with
gay and lesbian issues and not being practical on environmental issues
--

Petzl

 

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

I think you and I are on the same track except on the NBN.
Which I see as a very big plus for Australia.

That is true,

but about the NBN, Why ?
Remember at over $4000 per person, (no doubt will
blow out much more) its also very expensive to set up.

Another very big concern is that something like this under
government control can easily be designed and optomised
to censor content, and also to track what websites ever
person visits, who they chat with and so on. Conroy would
jump at something like this. This is a very serious matter

1st Rudd Labor under the stimulus plan was
to fund the NBN with a "SuperProfits" tax,

That is a bare faced lie/complete rewriting of the history.

The Dud proposed his stupid FTTN scheme in the election
campaign, BEFORE THE 2008 CRASH HAD EVER HAPPENED.

When he discovered that no one was actually stupid enough to
actually tender for his stupid FTTN scheme, he THEN went for
the NBN when the FTTN scheme was flat on its face in the mud.

There was NEVER any proposal to pay for the NBN with the
super profits tax which actually came MUCH later, as a result
of the enquiry into the entire tax system except the GST by
that fool Ken Henry.

the intention was to remove the $7 billion
a year of subsidies from the *BIG* miners

There was never any such thing.

while providing subsidies for the small developing miners.

Even sillier.

The following is a good explanation
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-01/mining-tax-makes-good-sense/3981624

Which says nothing like your bare faced pig ignorant lie.

Gillard Labor have stuffed everything up economically

The Dud did in spades with his stupid pissing of billions of our
bucks against the wall on stupid stuff we never needed like
stupid insulation schemes that killed a number of people
and set fire to a number of houses, and the stupid primary
school hall schemes and the handouts that few were stupid
enough to spend because they werent sure how long they
would have their current jobs for.

and just don't have a clue looks like they are running on spin

Govts always do. In spades with minority govts, stupid.

this budget being fudged and the next budget will be due
after election in September 2013 (the guaranteed surplus year)
Again a good explanation follows
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3493350.htm

Which again says nothing like your mindless silly stuff.

Problem is we don't have a leader. Gillard is a puppet being run by
some shady "back room boys" operation, voters have no say in who is in
control of a Labor government . The "carbon tax" was an initiation of
the "Greens" which shows Gillard has no negotiating skills (The Greens
won't vote with Abbott) No other country has it, this is a bad mistake

New Zealand brought it with Key (like LNP type side of politics)
and it was much lower than here. It killed the economy and
stirred outrage so much they had to then slash it by 50%

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars
under the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters.

That is another bare faced pig ignorant lie. No one has to pay
anything under Kyoto.

NZ has withdrawn from it (AFAIK)

Wrong, as always.

With the Liberals you are voting for someone who *is* in control of
his team. Trouble is you will get Abbott who is negative and not been
convincing of what he would do different. It tells me he knows nothing
about High Speed broadband or how to provide it.
Economically Abbott nor Hockey are showing even a slight clue.

We have MUCH bigger problems in this country than internet
service and they have to be dealt with first and fast.

Turnbull has invested millions on the NBN being successful.

Pigs arse he has. And if he had, he will lose it, you watch.

Abbott is jus being obscene.

Like it or lump it.

I don't believe him and so far he's not shown a clue
to bring Australia to recovery (not that Gillard is either)

No 'recovery' is needed, we didn't even get a recession, stupid.

With the Greens you get "Christine Milne" they are showing
surprisingly a lot of economic sense.They are showing respect for
their Leader. My problem with them is they seem to preoccupied with
gay and lesbian issues and not being practical on environmental issues

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 2 May 2012 15:34:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars
under the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters.

That is another bare faced pig ignorant lie. No one has to pay
anything under Kyoto.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3843253/Taxpayers-face-1b-Kyoto-liability-authors
or < http://tinyurl.com/322tjvu >

 

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars
under the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters.

That is another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
No one has to pay anything under Kyoto.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3843253/Taxpayers-face-1b-Kyoto-liability-authors
or < http://tinyurl.com/322tjvu

Just because some stupid journo claims something, doesn't make it gospel,
stupid.

 

[Petzl]

On Thu, 3 May 2012 06:23:39 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars
under the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters.

That is another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
No one has to pay anything under Kyoto.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3843253/Taxpayers-face-1b-Kyoto-liability-authors
or < http://tinyurl.com/322tjvu

Just because some stupid journo claims something, doesn't make it gospel,
stupid.

Not only journo's
Were speaking to a freind who invested in "Farm Forestry" where they
plant say 40 rows of trees (Radiata Pine) each side of fence line. In
15 to 20 years they finally havest those trees (then replant). Under
the "Kyoto Protocol" the deal becomes uneconomic because of "Carbon"
taxes. NZ has since quit that stupid agreement.
--
Petzl

 

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> pig ignorantly lied, as always

Yeah again a big stuff-up and NZ has to pay billions of dollars
under the Kyoto protocal to Russia who are the top 10 polluters.

That is another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
No one has to pay anything under Kyoto.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3843253/Taxpayers-face-1b-Kyoto-liability-authors
or < http://tinyurl.com/322tjvu

Just because some stupid journo claims something,
doesn't make it gospel, stupid.

Not only journo's

It the journo utterly mangling the real story.

Were speaking to a freind who invested in "Farm Forestry" where
they plant say 40 rows of trees (Radiata Pine) each side of fence
line. In 15 to 20 years they finally havest those trees (then replant).
Under the "Kyoto Protocol" the deal becomes uneconomic because
of "Carbon" taxes. NZ has since quit that stupid agreement.

So they don't have to pay anyone anything, stupid.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2012-05-01, kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 1, 4:23 pm, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Agree on that - except the ABC constantly pushing the man made global
warming fraud, (and seems it is still pushing it)
long after it had been exposed as a fraud, has finished them for me as
a credible source of anything scientific, political
or news info.

And when australia invaded iraq they said they was no evidence of WMD....
Oh wait! they were right about that! What were you saying?

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[mark_ae86]

On 27/04/2012 8:40 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

"Rod Speedbot"


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Id be fucking proud of that

 

[atec77]

On 4/05/2012 12:37 PM, mark_ae86 wrote:

On 27/04/2012 8:40 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"Rod Speedbot"


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Id be fucking proud of that
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.

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[kreed]

On May 3, 9:37 pm, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2012-05-01, kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 1, 4:23 pm, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Agree on that - except the ABC constantly pushing the man made global
warming fraud, (and seems it is still pushing it)
long after it had been exposed as a fraud, has finished them for me as
a credible source of anything scientific, political
or news info.

And when australia invaded iraq they said they was no evidence of WMD....
Oh wait! they were right about that!  What were you saying?

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That was a Long time ago, they have turned to total rubbish since
then.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote
kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote

Agree on that - except the ABC constantly pushing the man
made global warming fraud, (and seems it is still pushing it)

long after it had been exposed as a fraud, has finished them for me
as a credible source of anything scientific, political or news info.

And when australia invaded iraq they said they was no evidence of WMD....
Oh wait! they were right about that! What were you saying?

That was a Long time ago,

Nope.

they have turned to total rubbish since then.

Mindlessly silly, most obviously with the Indonesian abattoirs that was only
last year.