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Norm Dresner wrote:
Does anyone have a URL for, or direct knowledge of, information on the
interchangeability of various Tektronix plug-in series?

I own a TM504 mainframe and a couple of plug-ins. I've also found a virgin,
blank plug-in for DIY construction. I also see a very wide range of plug-in
series, 5Lxx and 7Lxx come to mind which I believe are for the 5000 & 7000
oscilloscope mainframes (but I'm really not sure). Do any of these plug-ins
either electrically or mechanically fit the 50x mainframes?

TIA
Norm
AFAIK, the TM500 series was designed for the then existing plugins
(CA, W, Z, L, S, etc).
All others have a different form factor and connector configuration.
 
Norm Dresner wrote:
"mike" <spamme0@juno.com> wrote in message news:41675D48.9000300@juno.com...

Norm Dresner wrote:

Does anyone have a URL for, or direct knowledge of, information on the
interchangeability of various Tektronix plug-in series?

I own a TM504 mainframe and a couple of plug-ins. I've also found a

virgin,

blank plug-in for DIY construction. I also see a very wide range of

plug-in

series, 5Lxx and 7Lxx come to mind which I believe are for the 5000 &

7000

oscilloscope mainframes (but I'm really not sure). Do any of these

plug-ins

either electrically or mechanically fit the 50x mainframes?

TIA
Norm


The short answer is no.

The 5000 series scopes and the TM500 use the same mechanical package.
They're keyed so they won't interchange, but the keys are plastic and
they wear on the fiberglass board and eventually break, defeating the
key. If you cross plug the series, you'll make a LOT of smoke.

The 5000 and 7000 series scopes have some interface similarities.
The power supply voltages are different.
I once considered making an adapter to make a 5CT1 into a 7CT1.
Needed voltage regulators in the adapter.
A 576 fell into my lap, so the project got aborted.
mike

--


As long as the 5000 series plug-ins will mechanically fit the TM50x
mainframe, I have a source for cheap "blanks" in which I can make a bunch of
things I need ... I paid almost as much for the blank kit I bought last week
as I have for some of the plug-ins.

Are the 7xxx packages mechanically similar to the 5xx ones?
Well....they're both rectangular. 5xxx is smaller and shorter.
Different connectors.

Thanks to everyone for the info.

Norm
It's been a long time and all my 5000 scope stuff has gone to dumpster
heaven.
As I recall, the metal parts are identical. The connector is identical.
But the wiring of the connectors is NOT.
The blank TM500 plugin in my hand has only two connections tied
together. Don't think I've ever seen a scope blank. There was a
minimalist 5000 scope plugin with the scope interface and power supplies.

Be sure to check that it's compatible with what you're plugging it into.
5000 scope has regulated supplies.
The TM500 has two floating transformer windings and three
high current unregulated power supplies tied to each hole. Get that
wired wrong and you can have a nice campfire in your lab.

Also be aware that there are a lot of gotchas building TM500 plugins.
The power supply is rated at 33V, but the trough voltage at low line
and high load is 22V as I recall. At high line, the peak voltage
at light load is higher than a 3-terminal regulator can take. And this
doesn't consider line transients above that.
The plugin is rated for 15W total dissipation...on a good day...but
it's gonna get really toasty.

The mainframe transistors can easily be overheated if you're not
careful. Don't assume infinite heat sink when calculating power
dissipation. Protect the mainframe transistors. When they short,
they usually blow up your plugin...and the next one you stick in cause
the first one quit. Hot plugging is a good way to smoke the transistors.

I've bought a bunch of TM500 mainframes. They ALWAYS had at least one
weak or bad mainframe transistor. Check 'em before you plug in anything
important.

mike

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<< There is saturation point after which you will be wasting your time.
The smaller/stronger one are made that way not just charged that way. >>

Aslaner, Bill & NumanR-

I believe you are correct that there is a saturation point, but the alloys are
not naturally magnetized. They are "charged" in a machine that works about the
way Bill described.

The question is whether or not the magnets were magnetized to a point beyond
their saturation point. If so, then the field would have eventually ended up
at some maximum stable value. However, they may not have been magnetized to
saturation, or there may have been some condition such as mechanical shock,
that caused the field to be reduced. In either case, it may be possible to
increase the magnet's strength using the magnetization process.

One thing that might go wrong, is a field reversal caused by the magnetizing
field (or current) being backwards. You have a 50-50 chance of getting it
right!

Fred
 
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 05:08:47 GMT "Norm Dresner" <ndrez@att.net> wrote:

As long as the 5000 series plug-ins will mechanically fit the TM50x
mainframe, I have a source for cheap "blanks" in which I can make a bunch of
things I need ... I paid almost as much for the blank kit I bought last week
as I have for some of the plug-ins.
May I ask what the blank chassis cost you? Where did you find it?

-
-----------------------------------------------
Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711 USA
-----------------------------------------------
 
Red Cloud wrote:
15" Hyundai monitor had no problem for 3 years. Suddenly yesterday
I heard some flicking inside of monitor then the right side of monitor
is way off. The color is changed. The green background windows 98 color
is not all green any more. The right side is changed fromg green to
pink and left side is littled changed to green. I did some research
on internet. The research suggested the one of color gun has died.
I guess it's time to get rid of the monitor. I was thinking about TV repairman
or is there something I can do with my little electornic knowledge.

You also need to check the thermistor in the deguassing circuit. If it
is bad, the tube will do what you have described above.

kc0oeb
 
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:
It is bonded back at the service panel with a #10ga copper
wire. The pipe to the well is plastic.
#10 is good, #00 is better~!

The last time we got a direct hit by lightning, the water
changed its tint for several days. It went from grey,
to yellow/orange. We lost a chunk of terracotta flue liner
on that one, and several appliances.
Perhaps you should install a whole-house surge protector on
the panel (~$50). You lose two-wire appiances through ground
vs power surges. Your pole transformer and it's ground is
probably a ways away.

-- Robert
 
"NumanR" <numanracing@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:49f8a664.0410090812.41b936f9@posting.google.com...
| The motors are used for racing r/c cars, now please take this
| seriously as there is a tool on the market which costs Ł600 which
| appears to be just a high strength magnet (this is used before each
| race by the top racers) What I want is a cheaper alternative, or an
| idea to help me build what I need. The magnets are subjected to heat
| and I think this effects the magnets. I cannot stop the heat but if I
| could top up the magnets each time then this would help. Thanks for
| your ideas.

Does this tool connect to a source of power, AC or DC? I have the gravest
doubts that this 'tool' works better than a chicken bone. Faith may not be
able to move mountains, but it sure moves money, usually from someone else's
wallet!

N
 
"ljones" <ljones@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:ck9el5$gi2$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
|
| Hi,
|
| I have an old (I believe it was made around 1990/91ish) VCR. It's an
| SVHS model - a Sanyo VHR-S700E (Stereo, PAL; I'm in the UK). I'm trying
| to repair this vcr but I can't pinpoint exactly what the trouble is or
| where I should look.
....
| First of all I thought that the second problem (regarding forward wind,
| etc) might have been the capstan and that it might have ceased up or
| needed oiling. I tried to do this with some sweing machine oil but it
| seems to have had no effect (though I did this with the capstan still in
| the machine).
....

Sewing machine oil? Might as well shotgun it to death now.

N
 
"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1cfa6663.0410080642.379c6f2@posting.google.com...
I have recently been given a box of various bits and pieces, including
rf modulators from vcrs.

I have so far managed to identify the signal (video and audio) input
and grounds, but I am not sure of the power lines.

Apart from the audio/video in, One has two pins , marked BB and MB.
Another (from an old JVC/ferguson vcr I believe) has 3 pins - BS B1
B2.

I'd be grateful if anybody could suggest the pinout/ polarity of these
and whether they use 5v or 12v. It would be a pity to have to dump
them!
Well, if you are going to dump them anyway, hook them up to a TV receiver
and power them with a current limited supply and see what happens.
 
Peter E. Orban wrote:
Hi Everyone,

We replaced most of our incandescent light bulbs with compact
fluorescent bulbs about a year and a half ago (it was before the NA
blackout last year). The bulbs are holding up fine, except in the
bathrooms, and I am wondering what could be the reason.
I've had the same problem. I assumed that it was the humidity.
We take steamy showers.
 
Robert Redelmeier wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

It is bonded back at the service panel with a #10ga copper
wire. The pipe to the well is plastic.


#10 is good, #00 is better~!


The last time we got a direct hit by lightning, the water
changed its tint for several days. It went from grey,
to yellow/orange. We lost a chunk of terracotta flue liner
on that one, and several appliances.


Perhaps you should install a whole-house surge protector on
the panel (~$50). You lose two-wire appiances through ground
vs power surges. Your pole transformer and it's ground is
probably a ways away.

-- Robert
The lightning hit the chimney cap, went down the brickwork of the
chimney, and entered the bond system by way of an outdoor flood
light that is mounted next to the chimney. The current zapped
a 3 wire treadmill (7 ft from floodlight), and flipped the breaker
on the circuit that had the flood light. No damage through the power
to any other devices. However, the induced surge in the security
wire/telephone wires that pass through the house blew two modems and
a phone answering machine. But not a cordless phone, or any other
telephones. One modem carried its surge into the RS232 line, and
toasted the drivers and uart on a Dell motherboard. I lost a
HPJetDirect card too... a failure in the 10baseT driver circuits.

Our power is buried, and the transformer is one of those steel
enclosed boxes about 70 feet from the house.

Fun!

One thing I have never been able to determine is whether we would
be safer with a lightning rod system, or without. My insurance
company is silent on this issue... you pay the same rates either
way. In our area, there have been several houses and barns that
have burned down,due to lightning strikes, and they had lightning
rod systems. Anecdotal evidence, to be sure.

-Chuck Harris
 
NSM wrote:
"ljones" <ljones@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:ck9el5$gi2$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
|
| Hi,
|
| I have an old (I believe it was made around 1990/91ish) VCR. It's an
| SVHS model - a Sanyo VHR-S700E (Stereo, PAL; I'm in the UK). I'm trying
| to repair this vcr but I can't pinpoint exactly what the trouble is or
| where I should look.
...
| First of all I thought that the second problem (regarding forward wind,
| etc) might have been the capstan and that it might have ceased up or
| needed oiling. I tried to do this with some sweing machine oil but it
| seems to have had no effect (though I did this with the capstan still in
| the machine).
...

Sewing machine oil? Might as well shotgun it to death now.

N
I found a FAQ on the internet which mentioned doing this and not to use
something like WD40. It suggested (from memory) using a thicker oil or
lubricant, not WD40 but sewing machine oil or machine oil.

I do notice that with the brake disengaged the capstan moves quite
freely by hand - but how free is free? I don't know if it moves enough.

ljones@lineone.net
 
ljones <ljones@lineone.net> writes:

NSM wrote:
"ljones" <ljones@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:ck9el5$gi2$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
|
| Hi,
|
| I have an old (I believe it was made around 1990/91ish) VCR. It's an
| SVHS model - a Sanyo VHR-S700E (Stereo, PAL; I'm in the UK). I'm trying
| to repair this vcr but I can't pinpoint exactly what the trouble is or
| where I should look.
...
| First of all I thought that the second problem (regarding forward wind,
| etc) might have been the capstan and that it might have ceased up or
| needed oiling. I tried to do this with some sweing machine oil but it
| seems to have had no effect (though I did this with the capstan still in
| the machine).
...
Sewing machine oil? Might as well shotgun it to death now.
N


I found a FAQ on the internet which mentioned doing this and not to
use something like WD40. It suggested (from memory) using a thicker
oil or lubricant, not WD40 but sewing machine oil or machine oil.

I do notice that with the brake disengaged the capstan moves quite
freely by hand - but how free is free? I don't know if it moves enough.

ljones@lineone.net
If you tried lubricating it and nothing much changed, that wasn't the problem
(whether you made it better or worse doesn't matter for this conclusion!).

Since I believe you had multiple symptoms, if they all happened at the same
time one must search for a common problem. It could all be power supply
related.

If the machine was sitting around for a couple years and now has these
problems, then they might be unrelated.

First, do the cleaning and checking in the FAQ.

Check the power supply voltages at standstill and while it's trying to
move the tape.

Sorry, I don't recall the other specific problems.

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Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/
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Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header is ignored.
To contact me, please use the feedback form on the S.E.R FAQ Web sites.
 
Check the Corona Wire, it has a habit of getting dirty full of toner, and if
that happens usually it wont transfer the image.


"Bob W" <bobwarasila@lswpub.com> wrote in message
news:c4694ee7.0410090849.44bff8ba@posting.google.com...
| I've had this copier for a number of years but this summer when the
| humidity was high it took several passes through to get a decent copy.
| Now the air is dryer but it won't copy at all. I'm wondering if
| there is a HV supply that is dead? Is anyone familiar with this
| machine?
|
| Bob
 
"ljones" <ljones@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:cka59v$koi$1@titan.btinternet.com...
| NSM wrote:

| > Sewing machine oil? Might as well shotgun it to death now.

| I found a FAQ on the internet which mentioned doing this and not to use
| something like WD40. It suggested (from memory) using a thicker oil or
| lubricant, not WD40 but sewing machine oil or machine oil.

WD-40 is not a lubricant - it's a rust penetrator. Sewing machine oil often
contains solvents or kerosene. Lubricants for electro mechanical devices
should be the ones recommended by the manufacturer, unless you are very
skilled and experienced in which case the brave may substitute.

| I do notice that with the brake disengaged the capstan moves quite
| freely by hand - but how free is free? I don't know if it moves enough.

Technicians use special equipment which can measure the torques etc. for
these devices.

Always fix the electrical problems first - the VU meters etc. It's possible
that this indicates why the rest doesn't work. These things are a nightmare
of motors, clutches, brakes etc., and if the power supply is faulty it's no
surprise things don't work right.

N
 
Sound like the replacement motor you put in their is running backwards.
That's why the speed won't regulate. In other words, if it's a
clockwise-rotation motor you need, your unknown sub is a counterclockwise
model. You'll need to try a motor of the correct rotation direction. All DC
permanent magnet motors can be changed if you can change the orientation of
the bottom cap assembly 108 degrees. Many later ones are "keyed" to prevent
this.

Mark Z.

Mark Z.


"Lenny" <captainvideo462002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d980bc2c.0410092025.14dce772@posting.google.com...
I have an old Delco radio which I salvaged from my 83 buick before it
went to its final reward. The radio has been in and outlived 3 of my
work vans but now it needs work on the cassette section. It started
dragging very badly and tapes sounded awful. I replaced or resurfaced
rubber parts as needed and it seemed to improve but not for long. I
finally pulled the motor and although it seemed to run ok with no load
as soon as I put a slight drag on it it stumbled and stalled a few
times. I opened it up resurfaced the commutator and brushes,
lubricated it and tried it out. It seemed much better under load and I
reinstalled it into the transport only to have the same speed problems
start up once again. I pulled the motor and it is once again stumbling
under load so I don't want to mess with it any more. I subbed a motor
from an unknown source to try the unit out. I had to power it from my
bench supply and adjust the voltage down to 5.0 volts for proper
speed. It seems to run decently this way but not knowing the motor's
voltage rating I may not be driving it properly to achieve maximum
torque and so I would not want to leave things this way. I would also
have to build a little LM317 circuit to power the thing and I really
don't want to do that if I don't have to either.
Does anyone have any of these old Delco radios possibly kicking around
and if so I was wondering if you might have a good motor or even a
complete transport you would be willing to sell me.

The radio information follows:
Radio appears to be a Delco.
Service Ref. # 30BCC31
Part # 16008160
Return # 996742

The motor information follows:
Motor is a Matsushita.
Model # MMT-3RF2H
Date: 05Nov82AA-1
I don't know the RPM's of this thing but it is marked and runs on
13.2VDC
If you need any further information please let me know. Thanks for any
help you may be able to offer. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics
 
Damn OE spell check. Should be "there" not "their".

Obviously should read "180 degrees".

Sheesh.

mz


"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message
news:2sslp4F1p515jU1@uni-berlin.de...
Sound like the replacement motor you put in their is running backwards.
That's why the speed won't regulate. In other words, if it's a
clockwise-rotation motor you need, your unknown sub is a counterclockwise
model. You'll need to try a motor of the correct rotation direction. All
DC permanent magnet motors can be changed if you can change the
orientation of the bottom cap assembly 108 degrees. Many later ones are
"keyed" to prevent this.

Mark Z.

Mark Z.


"Lenny" <captainvideo462002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d980bc2c.0410092025.14dce772@posting.google.com...
I have an old Delco radio which I salvaged from my 83 buick before it
went to its final reward. The radio has been in and outlived 3 of my
work vans but now it needs work on the cassette section. It started
dragging very badly and tapes sounded awful. I replaced or resurfaced
rubber parts as needed and it seemed to improve but not for long. I
finally pulled the motor and although it seemed to run ok with no load
as soon as I put a slight drag on it it stumbled and stalled a few
times. I opened it up resurfaced the commutator and brushes,
lubricated it and tried it out. It seemed much better under load and I
reinstalled it into the transport only to have the same speed problems
start up once again. I pulled the motor and it is once again stumbling
under load so I don't want to mess with it any more. I subbed a motor
from an unknown source to try the unit out. I had to power it from my
bench supply and adjust the voltage down to 5.0 volts for proper
speed. It seems to run decently this way but not knowing the motor's
voltage rating I may not be driving it properly to achieve maximum
torque and so I would not want to leave things this way. I would also
have to build a little LM317 circuit to power the thing and I really
don't want to do that if I don't have to either.
Does anyone have any of these old Delco radios possibly kicking around
and if so I was wondering if you might have a good motor or even a
complete transport you would be willing to sell me.

The radio information follows:
Radio appears to be a Delco.
Service Ref. # 30BCC31
Part # 16008160
Return # 996742

The motor information follows:
Motor is a Matsushita.
Model # MMT-3RF2H
Date: 05Nov82AA-1
I don't know the RPM's of this thing but it is marked and runs on
13.2VDC
If you need any further information please let me know. Thanks for any
help you may be able to offer. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics
 
Robert Redelmeier wrote:

All bets are off in a direct strike. Common grounding only
reduces the damage from a nearby strike.

....
I still doubt this was induced _unless_ 1) Phone was
run parallel to the floodlight circuit for some distance
and 2) Phone and power were on the same groundstake.
When I built my house, I wanted some wiring to be available
in all rooms, so I ran loops of 25 pair CAT3 telephone cable
around the outside perimeter of each floor in the house. The
loops end at punch down (66) blocks in the basement. There
are no sections of the loops that run parallel to the power wiring
separated closer than 1 foot. There is only one area where the
loops run perpendicular to the power wiring, and that is where the
power cables drop to the service panel. At these points, the loops
are a couple of inches away from the power cables.

One of the damaged modems was connected to the loop that ran
nearest to the lightning strike. It was a zoom modem ISA bus
modem, and its protection circuitry shorted out. No damage
was done to the computer.

The other damaged modem was a $15 Centdyne. It had a chip inductor
in series with one side of the line that was completely blown away.
The MOV that was across the line was still OK. The current that entered
this modem would have had to pass through about 100 feet of
#24 gauge wire, yet it still had enough zap to burn that inductor
off of the board (and destroy the modem's chip set, and the computer's
RS232 drivers and uart)
Most likely, phone was on it's own groundstake, so anything
bonded to power ground would get fried by the ground
differential between power and ground.
Since I did the power and telephone work, they are both grounded
to the UFER ground at the service panel, which is where they enter
the house. The nearest power pole is 600 feet away. So there is
no point in the power grid within 600 feet where lightning could
enter the system... other than my house.

One thing I have never been able to determine is whether
we would be safer with a lightning rod system, or without.


Hard to say. A lightening rod system could be dangerous
if the insulation was insufficiently heat-resistant.
What seems to happen, anecdotally, is the rods conduct the
bolt, and burn the roof where the ground wires run along
the ridge... even though the ground wires for the rods typically
are held 1 foot above the roof.

What I am thinking of doing is adding a lightning rod to the
masonry chimney structure. It is the highest point on the house,
and in the vicinity. I will give it a decent UFER ground
of its own, a few dozen feet from the house. My hope is this
will protect the chimney, but will not endanger the rest of
the house.

-Chuck Harris
 
NSM wrote:

Lightning strikes up from the best point on the ground. IMO, the safest way
is to install a lightning rod away from the house (separately guyed) but
close enough to protect your property. Just don't stick your tongue on it
when it's stormy out!

N
It is my understanding that a lightning rod provides a statistical cone of
protection that is approximately the same diameter at the base as the rod
is high. To protect my 65 foot long house would require a rod that is
around 150 feet high, and right next to the chimney. Or perhaps 2 rods
100 feet high on either end of the house.

"Honey, I have to put up a 200 foot ham tower to protect our house from
lightning!"

-Chuck Harris
 
One means of improving the performance of pm and universal motors has not yet
been mentioned. That is: Altering the phase relationship between the brushes
and the field magnets. This was (still is?) a common control method for
traction motors in street cars/trolleys/buses. Was also used for elevators and
motor-generator (dynamotors) sets (welding, arc lamps, etc.)

Exactly how this might be applied to slot cars seems to offer lots of room for
creative engineering.
webpa
 

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