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rand@thelampards.net wrote:
On Saturday, April 5, 1997 4:00:00 AM UTC-4, Scroop Moth wrote:
Adcom GFA-535 power amp has one dead channel. The internal fuse on that
channel blows out.

Is this something an amateur could learn to fix, or do I need to take the
amp to a pro? Are there any typical kinds of failure I could check out?

I have the very same amplifier that had a similar issue. after a voltage surge, the right channel made on very short ('instant') burst of tone and then quit. Found one of the internal fuses blown, replaced, and the same tone was generated so I shut it off immediately. I pulled off the grille, turned the amp back on, and found the (instant/momentary) tone was the woofer extending out fully and staying put. Turned off.

I ended up joining Audiokarma and one member pointed me to http://www.hifi-manuals.com/ where you can download manuals (owner, service, repair) for free. If got the manuals for the -535 with the intention of doing the repair myself but couldn't find the time. So, I took it to a local repair shop (fingers crossed that they knew what they're doing) and got it back a couple days and $50 later and it's perfect.

There are four 2SC2362 transistors for each channel labeled Q601, 603, 605, and 615. Q601 was the failed one in my case.

timely reponse there, but for anybody else-

The great part about two channel amps is if one side is blown, you can
compare components to the other good channel.
 
On 09/16/2014 10:28 PM, azaharimyi@gmail.com wrote:
Hc-g205 for s/part
Hello, and would that be the "Well Hung Chang" model? I only have the
schematic for a Wang Chung radio. (Sorry but I couldn't resist.) Sincerely,

--
J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com
 
Phil wrote:
I am looking for a copy of the circuit diagram for the Hung Chang
HC-G205 function generator. The unit's output amp has burnt out
completely.

** You real sure about that model number??

Hung Chang made an 8205A sweep function generator.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUNG-CHANG-SWEEP-FUNCTION-GENERATOR-Model-8205A-/290898741072

A number "8" with a bit missing looks like the letter "G".



..... Phil
 
In article <lvbno4$7rj$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, arl_123234@hotmail.com
says...
On 09/16/2014 10:28 PM, azaharimyi@gmail.com wrote:
Hc-g205 for s/part

Hello, and would that be the "Well Hung Chang" model? I only have the
schematic for a Wang Chung radio. (Sorry but I couldn't resist.) Sincerely,

From his request I would say there is

Sum Ting Wong with it.

Jamie
 
Danny D. wrote, on Mon, 29 Sep 2014 20:51:58 +0000:

> This data is confusing, to me.

Since I was confused by the fact that the new H72 chain of identical
pitch, gauge and number of drive links as the G72 chain would *not* fit
my 18-inch Husqvarna 445 chainsaw recently bought at Lowes, I called
Oregon directly at the number shown in that Micro-Lite brochure
(503-653-8881):
http://www.oregonproducts.com/pdf/misc/MicroLiteBroch.pdf

At that number, I asked to speak with their most knowledgeable guy, who
turned out to be "Vic" who told me that the 18-inch Husqvarna 445 could
have come with any of three (3) different bars:
1. Standard-kerf bar, 0.050 gauge, 0.325 pitch, 72 drive links, or,
2. Narrow-kerf bar, 0.050 gauge, 0.325 pitch, 72 drive links, or even,
3. what he called a "3/8-inch 50-gauge bar".

I told him that the Oregon H72 chain package should say something like:
** ensure that your bar is a STANDARD-kerf bar!
And he said he'd get that information over to the right people.

He agreed that, even though the pitch, gauge, and number of drive links
are the same, the Oregon H72 is the *wrong* chain for the narrow-kerf bar
that is on my Husqvarna 445 (the right chain is the Oregon G72).

Vic explained that the cutting edge is a "few thousandths" thinner on the
narrow-kerf chains, and that the "rails" of the narrow-kerf bars is
proportionately thinner (hence, the bar itself is thinner).

When I countered that the gauge is the same, he mentioned that the
*depth* of the groove on the bar is the same; it's just that the rails on
the bar are different.

He wasn't totally sure what damage would result, but he said that the
wider cutting edge "could" hit something inside the chain saw (which he
agreed was probably unlikely); and he said that the top-heavy wider-kerf
chain "could" possibly damage the admittedly thinner rails of the narrow-
kerf bar.

All in all, the takeaway is that it is *not* sufficient to match a
chainsaw by the pitch, gauge, and number of drive links. One also has to
match the width of the kerf cut by the cutting edge.

Sigh. Who knew? Not me.
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:25:04 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
<dannydiamico@gmail.com> wrote as underneath :

Danny D. wrote, on Mon, 29 Sep 2014 20:51:58 +0000:

This data is confusing, to me.

Since I was confused by the fact that the new H72 chain of identical
pitch, gauge and number of drive links as the G72 chain would *not* fit
my 18-inch Husqvarna 445 chainsaw recently bought at Lowes, I called
Oregon directly at the number shown in that Micro-Lite brochure
(503-653-8881):
http://www.oregonproducts.com/pdf/misc/MicroLiteBroch.pdf

At that number, I asked to speak with their most knowledgeable guy, who
turned out to be "Vic" who told me that the 18-inch Husqvarna 445 could
have come with any of three (3) different bars:
1. Standard-kerf bar, 0.050 gauge, 0.325 pitch, 72 drive links, or,
2. Narrow-kerf bar, 0.050 gauge, 0.325 pitch, 72 drive links, or even,
3. what he called a "3/8-inch 50-gauge bar".

I told him that the Oregon H72 chain package should say something like:
** ensure that your bar is a STANDARD-kerf bar!
And he said he'd get that information over to the right people.

He agreed that, even though the pitch, gauge, and number of drive links
are the same, the Oregon H72 is the *wrong* chain for the narrow-kerf bar
that is on my Husqvarna 445 (the right chain is the Oregon G72).

Vic explained that the cutting edge is a "few thousandths" thinner on the
narrow-kerf chains, and that the "rails" of the narrow-kerf bars is
proportionately thinner (hence, the bar itself is thinner).

When I countered that the gauge is the same, he mentioned that the
*depth* of the groove on the bar is the same; it's just that the rails on
the bar are different.

He wasn't totally sure what damage would result, but he said that the
wider cutting edge "could" hit something inside the chain saw (which he
agreed was probably unlikely); and he said that the top-heavy wider-kerf
chain "could" possibly damage the admittedly thinner rails of the narrow-
kerf bar.

All in all, the takeaway is that it is *not* sufficient to match a
chainsaw by the pitch, gauge, and number of drive links. One also has to
match the width of the kerf cut by the cutting edge.

Sigh. Who knew? Not me.

So what is the difference between the kerf width of the three chains? I
doubt that a few thou would start catching on the chainsaw body unless
the body clearances are tighter than they should be on any chainsaw. You
may get accelerated wear on the bar rails if you tend to tilt the bar in
the kerf with the wider chains. But the chain you got should be usable
in my guestimation, just try to keep the bar straight in the cut. C+
 
Charlie+ wrote, on Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:06:29 +0100:

So what is the difference between the kerf width of the three chains? I
doubt that a few thou would start catching on the chainsaw body unless
the body clearances are tighter than they should be on any chainsaw. You
may get accelerated wear on the bar rails if you tend to tilt the bar in
the kerf with the wider chains. But the chain you got should be usable
in my guestimation, just try to keep the bar straight in the cut.

These are good questions.

All I know is the difference in cutter is a few thousandths.

How many? Vic said he didn't know, but when I had pressed him, he said
not more than 5 or 10 thousandths.

When I pressed him on how that would damage the bar with the thinner
rails, he said that that's what they tell him.

So, I have had three (3) customer service personnel tell me the same
thing - but not one of them can tell me why.
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:29:15 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
<dannydiamico@gmail.com> wrote:

Charlie+ wrote, on Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:06:29 +0100:

So what is the difference between the kerf width of the three chains? I
doubt that a few thou would start catching on the chainsaw body unless
the body clearances are tighter than they should be on any chainsaw. You
may get accelerated wear on the bar rails if you tend to tilt the bar in
the kerf with the wider chains. But the chain you got should be usable
in my guestimation, just try to keep the bar straight in the cut.

These are good questions.

All I know is the difference in cutter is a few thousandths.

How many? Vic said he didn't know, but when I had pressed him, he said
not more than 5 or 10 thousandths.

When I pressed him on how that would damage the bar with the thinner
rails, he said that that's what they tell him.

So, I have had three (3) customer service personnel tell me the same
thing - but not one of them can tell me why.
One of my saws, a small Stihl, has a 14 inch bar and is aimed at
homeowners who want to cut up small stuff. It uses an anti-kickback
chain made for infrequent users, folks who don't have much experience
with chain saws and how to use them. The part of the chain that fits
into the bar is about .005" thinner that normal chain. So even though
there is a chain that has the same pitch and so on it will not fit
easily into this bar. I was able to find a more aggressive chain than
the stock one but the better chain for lots of cuts won't fit in the
bar so I will be buying another bar for this saw because it gets lots
of use. I imagine your chains are the same. I can push the thicker
chain into the bar but it drags so much that the bar would overheat
quickly. I suppose I could put the chain in with some lube and run it
slowly and eventually wear the bar to fit but I'm just gonna buy
another bar. I'll get a 16 inch bar because the Stihl dealer says that
a 16 inch bar is really the longest bar the saw can pull and still cut
fast.
Eric
 
etpm wrote, on Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:51:35 -0700:

The part of the chain that fits into the bar is about .005" thinner that
normal chain. So even though there is a chain that has the same pitch
and so on it will not fit easily into this bar.

According to my three phone calls (two to Oregon, and one to Husqvarna),
there are four (4) dimensions that matter when matching a chain:

1. pitch (distance between three rivets divided by two), e.g., 0.325"
2. gauge (thickness of the part that goes into the bar), e.g., 0.050"
3. # drive links (number of parts that go into the bar), e.g., 72
4. width of cutter (e.g., narrow kerf or standard kerf), e.g.., G72 vs H72
 
Charlie+ wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:34:33 +0100:

OP said all three chains were .050 so this is not useful, an extra .005
would be a major difference. I wouldnt dream of force using a .055 chain
in a .050 bar. asking for a jam and superfast sprocket wear. C+

True.

The amazing thing is that all three customer service personnel insisted
that *damage* could result to the bar, even though the two chains in
question, namely the Oregon H72 versus the Oregon G72, all have the same
three primary dimensions of pitch, gauge, and number of drive links (as
do the Husqvarna H20 and H30 chains).

They all said there are four (4) dimensions that must be matched!
1. pitch (distance between links)
2. gauge (thickness of the part that goes into the rail)
3. drive link number (determines the length of the chain, with pitch)
4. kerf width (a major determinant of the power needed to cut & kickback)

REFERENCES:
Vic of Oregon @ 503-653-8881
Becky of Blont International @ 800-223-5168 (aka Oregon 3rd-party repair)
Keisha of Husqvarna @ 800-487-5951
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:23:46 -0700:


For your amusement:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/chain-saw-repair.html

That looks like my Husqvarna 445!
https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2941/15201608420_0e77d52069_b.jpg

Did you have a photo of the 7-tooth spur type sprocket?
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3871/15370519536_4101368b98_c.jpg

I had accidentally used a 62-drive-link 18" chain (instead of a 72-link
0.325" pitch 0.050" gauge narrow-kerf chain), so I was worried about
sprocket damage.
https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2944/15385110011_944028f121_c.jpg
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:23:46 -0700:

http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chainsaw-Chain-325-Pitch-
x-050-Gauge/

That link explained the four (4) types of kerfs:
1. Chisel Kerf
2. Narrow Kerf (Must Be Matched with Narrow Kerf Bars!)
3. Semi-Chisel
4. Skiptooth Versions

Notice that, even though the pitch, gauge, and number of drive links are
the same, the "narrow-kerf" chain (#2 in the list) must be used with the
narrow-kerf bar (which is also called the "micro-lite" bar), which has
the same depth of slot and the same width of slot, but which has thinner
rails.

What I can't fathom is *how* the outer part of the chain can damage the
bar, since the part that fits into the bar is the *same* gauge!

For example, the 18" "standard" Oregon H72 chain is what I had been told
at Lowes to buy, but, the correct chain for my Husqvarna 445 (also from
that Lowes store) is the 18" Oregon G72, both of which have the same
pitch, gauge, and number of drive links:
https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2947/15365276296_9574301fa4_c.jpg
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:23:46 -0700:

http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chainsaw-Chain-325-Pitch-
x-050-Gauge/Narrow-Kerf-Chainsaw-Chain/

The strange part about that link is this sentence:
"This chain will not work well with standard chainsaw bars,
so you will need to match your chain with a narrow kerf bar..."

Given, AFAWK, the only difference with a narrow-kerf bar from a
standard bar is (reputedly) the thickness of the rails, two strange
questions must result from that information:

1. *Why* does a narrow-kerf bar have thinner rails than a standard-kerf
bar, when the kerf is *outside* the rails?

2. How can they say we must *match* the chains to the narrow-kerf bar,
when the parts that goe into the bar (i.e., the drive links
themselves) are exactly the *same* in both cases?

(e.g., the gauge, which is the part inside the rails) is the *same*
on the standard 0.050" gauge Oregon H72 and the narrow-kerf 0.050"
gauge Oregon G72 chains)

Makes no sense, to me, but, three people (who should know) confirmed this.
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:23:46 -0700:

> http://baileysonline.com/Pages/Chainsaw-Chain-Cross-Reference-Chart

I called the number at that reference 707-984-8115 but it is 3am in
California and only 6am Eastern, so the "answering service" took down my
question and someone will call me back at 9am Eastern (6am my time) to
answer my question of:

Q: How can a standard-kerf chain possibly damage a narrow-kerf bar?
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:51:35 -0700, etpm@whidbey.com wrote as underneath
:

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:29:15 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
dannydiamico@gmail.com> wrote:

Charlie+ wrote, on Tue, 30 Sep 2014 08:06:29 +0100:

So what is the difference between the kerf width of the three chains? I
doubt that a few thou would start catching on the chainsaw body unless
the body clearances are tighter than they should be on any chainsaw. You
may get accelerated wear on the bar rails if you tend to tilt the bar in
the kerf with the wider chains. But the chain you got should be usable
in my guestimation, just try to keep the bar straight in the cut.

These are good questions.

All I know is the difference in cutter is a few thousandths.

How many? Vic said he didn't know, but when I had pressed him, he said
not more than 5 or 10 thousandths.

When I pressed him on how that would damage the bar with the thinner
rails, he said that that's what they tell him.

So, I have had three (3) customer service personnel tell me the same
thing - but not one of them can tell me why.
One of my saws, a small Stihl, has a 14 inch bar and is aimed at
homeowners who want to cut up small stuff. It uses an anti-kickback
chain made for infrequent users, folks who don't have much experience
with chain saws and how to use them. The part of the chain that fits
into the bar is about .005" thinner that normal chain. So even though
there is a chain that has the same pitch and so on it will not fit
easily into this bar. I was able to find a more aggressive chain than
the stock one but the better chain for lots of cuts won't fit in the
bar so I will be buying another bar for this saw because it gets lots
of use. I imagine your chains are the same. I can push the thicker
chain into the bar but it drags so much that the bar would overheat
quickly. I suppose I could put the chain in with some lube and run it
slowly and eventually wear the bar to fit but I'm just gonna buy
another bar. I'll get a 16 inch bar because the Stihl dealer says that
a 16 inch bar is really the longest bar the saw can pull and still cut
fast.
Eric

OP said all three chains were .050 so this is not useful, an extra .005
would be a major difference. I wouldnt dream of force using a .055 chain
in a .050 bar. asking for a jam and superfast sprocket wear. C+
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:23:46 -0700:

> http://baileysonline.com/Pages/Chainsaw-Chain-Cross-Reference-Chart

Wow!

That's the least expensive I've *ever* seen an 18" chain go for!

The "Woodland Pro" brand chain is only $13 (free shipping too).
"CHAIN = WoodlandPRO 18" Chainsaw Chain Loop (20NK-74 Drive Links)
This chain is designed to run *exclusively* on narrow kerf bars."

Here's the blurb:
"20NK will fit saws using Oregon 95VP series and Husqvarna H30 chains.
20NK will not perform well unless matched with a narrow kerf bar. 20NK
chain sharpens with a 3/16" round file or 1/8" grinding wheel. Chain
manufactured in the U.S.A. by Carlton."

The only problem is that it's *not* a low-kickback chain!
 
dadiOH wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 06:43:15 -0400:

When a tooth is cutting there is force applied toward the bar, thinner
bar less able to resist that force. The greater the tooth bite, the
greater the force. Ditto for any lateral motion.

This makes sense.

I think the reason for the thinner rails (hence thinner bar) is that the
narrow kerf chain cuts a narrow kerf so the bar itself must be thinner in
order to have the same clearance inside the wood.

So, in effect, the thinner bar isn't there so much as to accommodate the
"chain", but, I think, as to accommodate the thinner cut in the wood.

Maybe ?
 
Mike Marlow wrote, on Wed, 01 Oct 2014 07:30:42 -0400:

The only problem is that it's *not* a low-kickback chain!

Don't worry about that.

I don't know if it matters, or not, because I have never used a non low-
kickback chain before.

I don't know when "kickback" kicks in. For example, it didn't kick in
when I was cutting this dead Monterrey Pine this weekend:
https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2946/15201608230_b84d3373ba_b.jpg

Some of those Monterrey Pine logs are wider than the 18 inch chain, so, I
had to "girdle" them to cut them fully through:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3883/15201608510_8e147c05e6_c.jpg

AFAIK, the saw never "kicked back" on me, but, I'm using a low-kickback
chain. Would a high-kick-back chain have handled it differently?
https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2941/15201608420_0e77d52069_b.jpg
 

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