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[nospam]

In article <lsev2m$qn5$1@solani.org>, Helmer Bengtsson
<HelmerBengtsson@is.invalid> wrote:

The move to USB 3.0 only affects charge rates connected to a PC.

2.x is limited to 500mA while 3.x is 900mA I think.

originally, but the battery charging spec allows for more current.

> Both standards use 5V, but 2A AC chargers often run a bit higher at 5.3V.

no they don't.

5.3v is outside the usb spec.

The chargers don't directly adhere to either USB spec and basically
trigger fast charge the same as before, by shorting out or putting a
fixed resistance between the data pins.

My old HP TouchPad USB 5.3V/2A charger with 2.0 cord charges my Note 3
just as fast as the Samsung 5.3V/2A adapter with USB 3.0 cord does.

If you look closely, you'll notice that the "USB 3.0" Samsung charger
doesn't actually have the extra 3.0 pins, it uses a 2.0 port. That's
because for pure charging devices the standard doesn't matter, only the
current and voltage rating and that it shorts the data pins.

then it's not compliant in more ways than one.

it's supposed to negotiate the power over the data pins.

 

[nospam]

In article <lsev6r$qn5$2@solani.org>, Helmer Bengtsson
<HelmerBengtsson@is.invalid> wrote:

As for the title question, I never myself could figure out the difference.
If you know, tell me because it makes no sense class 1 or class 2 except
from a driver perspective.

it doesn't matter

 

[nospam]

In article
<a43f7$53eb051d$43da7656$17098@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Elechi
Amadi <ElechiAmadi@example.com> wrote:

Input: 100-240V ~ 50-60Hz, 0.35A / Output: 5.0V=== 2.0A

I had referenced the wrong charger.
The OEM charger for the Note III is 5.3 volts, 2.0 Amps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504456

it is not compliant with the usb spec.

don't use it with anything other than a note iii and any other samsung
product that it lists it will work with.

> I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

you won't and it makes no difference anyway.

 

[Andy Burns]

Elechi Amadi wrote:

> I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

You don't want one, it could fry some other device you plug into it,
just get a 5.0V 2.0A one and you'll be ok.

 

[tumppiw]

13.8.2014, 8:53, Elechi Amadi kirjoitti:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:26:35 -0400, nospam wrote:

usb must be 5v +- 0.25v, or 4.75-5.25v, which means the oem charger is
not usb compliant.

Here's a picture of the OEM EP-TA10JWS charger, showing the 5.3 volts!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Travel-Charger-EP-TA10JWS/dp/B00H8482KQ

That shows 5.0V/2.0A both in the pic and in the text

What I'm worried about is that I can't find a car adapter that
is 5.3 volts and 2.0 amps or more.

--
-----------------------------------------------------
Thomas Wendell
Helsinki, Finland
Translation to/from FI/SWE not always accurate
-----------------------------------------------------

 

[nemo]

On 13/08/2014 06:55, Elechi Amadi wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:53:38 -0500, Elechi Amadi wrote:

Here's a picture of the OEM EP-TA10JWS charger, showing the 5.3 volts!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Travel-Charger-EP-TA10JWS/dp/B00H8482KQ

What I'm worried about is that I can't find a car adapter that
is 5.3 volts and 2.0 amps or more.

Actually, that's the wrong picture.
Here's the right picture showing 5.3 volts at 2.0 amps output.
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-travel-charger-2-amp.html

Duhhhh... and here's a picture showing a charger with *exactly* the same
product code (EP-TA10JWS) with the correct voltage (5.0v) in the product
label and text of the web page.
<http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Travel-Charger-EP-TA10JWS/dp/B00H8482KQ>

Looks like there's a *mistake* in the wirelessground.com web page, it
should say 5.0v not 5.3v. So a 5.0v car charger would be the right
choice for you.

.... got the picture yet?

 

[Elechi Amadi]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 +0100, nemo wrote:

Looks like there's a *mistake* in the wirelessground.com web page, it
should say 5.0v not 5.3v. So a 5.0v car charger would be the right
choice for you.

I can read it as 5.3 volts printed right on my charger!
So the only mistake is in the Amazon photos.

 

[Elechi Amadi]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 +0100, nemo wrote:

Duhhhh... and here's a picture showing a charger with *exactly* the same
product code (EP-TA10JWS) with the correct voltage (5.0v) in the product

Samsung themselves, say it's 5.3 volts.
http://www.samsung.com/za/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/mobile-phone-accessories/EP-TA10EWEQGWW-spec
http://www.samsung.com/za/business/business-products/mobile-devices/mobile-accessories/EP-TA10EWEQGWW

Plus I can read 5.3 volts printed on the charger.

Also Amazon shows it at 5.3 volts:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Mains-Charger-cable-Galaxy/dp/B00I6LRPRQ
As does Wireless Ground:
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-travel-charger-2-amp.html

Whatever XDA is, they show it at 5.3 volts also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534079

 

[Tony Hwang]

Elechi Amadi wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:05:31 -0400, nospam wrote:

Input: 100-240V ~ 50-60Hz, 0.35A / Output: 5.0V=== 2.0A

I had referenced the wrong charger.
The OEM charger for the Note III is 5.3 volts, 2.0 Amps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504456

I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

Hi,
It is not that super critical. As long as charger is good quality.
Also if you get wrong micro SD card, it won't work well. For example too
fast one some times gives trouble. Follow the manual. Get a brand name
like Samsung, Lexar....

 

[Theo Markettos]

In comp.mobile.android Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:

Elechi Amadi wrote:

I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

You don't want one, it could fry some other device you plug into it,
just get a 5.0V 2.0A one and you'll be ok.

It'll be fine.

The USB spec goes up to 5.25V. The extra 50mV won't fry anything.

In fact, the device probably won't even see it. If you're drawing 2A, you'd
lose 50mV by a 25milliohm resistance in the cable. Given that USB cables
contain hair-thicknesses of copper these days, that's not unlikely. I've
seen cables with 1 ohm resistance. In fact, to get a resistance as low as
25mohm you'd need about 0.75mm^2 of copper - that's roughly the thickness of
the cable that powers your desktop PC.

A lower current draw will have less voltage drop, but any way you look at it
what the device sees will be in spec. And the device would cope just fine
with 5.3V straight, the DC-DC converter will have a much bigger margin.

Theo

 

[Andy Burns]

Theo Markettos wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:

Elechi Amadi wrote:

I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

You don't want one

It'll be fine.
The USB spec goes up to 5.25V. The extra 50mV won't fry anything.

The nominal 5.3V is already out of spec, who knows what the tolerance is
on it, +/- 5% perhaps, so now it could be 300mV over, then someone
charges an unprotected e-cigarette from it and ...

<http://google.co.uk/search?q=usb+cigarette+fire>

 

[Chris Uppal]

Andy Burns wrote:

The USB spec goes up to 5.25V. The extra 50mV won't fry anything.

The nominal 5.3V is already out of spec,

Or rounded to one decimal place.

-- chris

 

[josephkk]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:24:42 -0500, Elechi Amadi <ElechiAmadi@example.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 +0100, nemo wrote:

Duhhhh... and here's a picture showing a charger with *exactly* the same
product code (EP-TA10JWS) with the correct voltage (5.0v) in the product

Samsung themselves, say it's 5.3 volts.
http://www.samsung.com/za/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/mobile-phone-accessories/EP-TA10EWEQGWW-spec
http://www.samsung.com/za/business/business-products/mobile-devices/mobile-accessories/EP-TA10EWEQGWW

Plus I can read 5.3 volts printed on the charger.

Also Amazon shows it at 5.3 volts:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Mains-Charger-cable-Galaxy/dp/B00I6LRPRQ
As does Wireless Ground:
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-travel-charger-2-amp..html

Whatever XDA is, they show it at 5.3 volts also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534079

Quit gassing. Measure it. Both unloaded and at 1.00 Amperes.

?-)

 

[josephkk]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:03:03 +0000 (UTC), Helmer Bengtsson
<HelmerBengtsson@is.invalid> wrote:

The move to USB 3.0 only affects charge rates connected to a PC.

2.x is limited to 500mA while 3.x is 900mA I think.

Both standards use 5V, but 2A AC chargers often run a bit higher at 5.3V.
The chargers don't directly adhere to either USB spec and basically
trigger fast charge the same as before, by shorting out or putting a
fixed resistance between the data pins.

My old HP TouchPad USB 5.3V/2A charger with 2.0 cord charges my Note 3
just as fast as the Samsung 5.3V/2A adapter with USB 3.0 cord does.

If you look closely, you'll notice that the "USB 3.0" Samsung charger
doesn't actually have the extra 3.0 pins, it uses a 2.0 port. That's
because for pure charging devices the standard doesn't matter, only the
current and voltage rating and that it shorts the data pins.

For anyone that is interested please see:

http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/

All the USB standards are there.

?-)

 

[josephkk]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:04:10 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:

Theo Markettos wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:

Elechi Amadi wrote:

I can't find a 5.3 volt adapter for the car.

You don't want one

It'll be fine.
The USB spec goes up to 5.25V. The extra 50mV won't fry anything.

The nominal 5.3V is already out of spec, who knows what the tolerance is
on it, +/- 5% perhaps, so now it could be 300mV over, then someone
charges an unprotected e-cigarette from it and ...

http://google.co.uk/search?q=usb+cigarette+fire

Hmm. Hadn't heard of rechargeable electronic cigarettes. The ones i have
seen use expendable batteries in the nicotine cartriages. Live and learn.

?-)

 

[Steve Hayes]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:15:10 +0000 (UTC), Ned Turnbull
<NedTurnbull@example.com> wrote:

Here is a 30-minute recording, kindly uploaded by Marek, of an
unsolicited call today that I received from the “Microsoft IT”
department, telling me my computer was "sending reports" to them.
https://app.box.com/s/0yluyszg1qj2l83ynbm2

I just got off the phone to one now.

As I said, I get about 3 calls a week from them, and the accent appears to be
Indian in every case.

Usually I just hang up, but this time I decided to string him along a bit, so
I exited Windows and booted Linux.

He told me that they had detected that I was downloading bad programs every
time I connected to the Internet.

I asked how he knew that, and he said my computer sent a signal to them.

I said well then isn't it malware that is causing my computer to send a signal
to his, and he assured me that it wasn't.

By that time Linux had booted up, and he asked me to hold down the Windows key
and press R.

I did, and told him nothing happened.

He then said I should press the Windows key on its own, and click on the Start
button at the bottom of my screen.

I told him I couldn't see the start button.

He asked what I could see, and I said at the top left I see "Applications",
and next to it "Places" and then in the middle of the sceen the date.

He said there must be something wrong with my keyboard, so I said I would look
into it.

He asked me again if I could see the start button, and I said not.

He said he couldn't help me, as there was nothing on my screen, and sounded
very apologetic about it, and the conversation ended.

It may have cost him quite a bit, if he was calling from India.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

 

[Adrian C]

On 27/08/14 09:33, Steve Hayes wrote:

It may have cost him quite a bit, if he was calling from India.

Nothing. VOIP.

--
Adrian C

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2014-08-27, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

He said he couldn't help me, as there was nothing on my screen, and sounded
very apologetic about it, and the conversation ended.

It may have cost him quite a bit, if he was calling from India.

He's calling on a VoIP service so his boss is paying less than bormal
local business rates. he's just one of the workers in an Indian call
centre. Dunno how his renumeration is computed.

--
umop apisdn


--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

 

[Steve Hayes]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:29:31 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:

On 27/08/14 09:33, Steve Hayes wrote:

It may have cost him quite a bit, if he was calling from India.


Nothing. VOIP.

Interesting. How does that work with landline phones? I find it hard to think
that our Telkom would charge nothing for a call that they connect.



--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

 

[MLD]

My recent experience with the same scam went like this---not exact words but
close enough---Him-This is Microsoft IT test lab calling about a problem
with my computer. They show that my computer is running slow due to lots of
bad software installed etc, etc. Me-After long listening period----I'm
interested in which Microsoft test lab you are calling from. Him---Why??
ME--I work for Microsoft and am familiar with the various test labs.
Him--You work for Microsoft? Me--Yes. CLICK!!! No more caller from India!
BTW, I don't work for MS.
MLD

"Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:15:10 +0000 (UTC), Ned Turnbull
NedTurnbull@example.com> wrote:

Here is a 30-minute recording, kindly uploaded by Marek, of an
unsolicited call today that I received from the “Microsoft IT”
department, telling me my computer was "sending reports" to them.
https://app.box.com/s/0yluyszg1qj2l83ynbm2

I just got off the phone to one now.

As I said, I get about 3 calls a week from them, and the accent appears to
be
Indian in every case.

Usually I just hang up, but this time I decided to string him along a bit,
so
I exited Windows and booted Linux.

He told me that they had detected that I was downloading bad programs
every
time I connected to the Internet.

I asked how he knew that, and he said my computer sent a signal to them.

I said well then isn't it malware that is causing my computer to send a
signal
to his, and he assured me that it wasn't.

By that time Linux had booted up, and he asked me to hold down the Windows
key
and press R.

I did, and told him nothing happened.

He then said I should press the Windows key on its own, and click on the
Start
button at the bottom of my screen.

I told him I couldn't see the start button.

He asked what I could see, and I said at the top left I see
"Applications",
and next to it "Places" and then in the middle of the sceen the date.

He said there must be something wrong with my keyboard, so I said I would
look
into it.

He asked me again if I could see the start button, and I said not.

He said he couldn't help me, as there was nothing on my screen, and
sounded
very apologetic about it, and the conversation ended.

It may have cost him quite a bit, if he was calling from India.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop
uk