Toshiba TV29C90 problem; Image fades to black...

[Geoffrey S. Mendelson]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

I just realized you're not in the States. So much for that.

Besides the time difference, what's that matter? Most people outside the US
have some way of calling the US, often for less than they pay for local
calls.

Or possibly SKYPE? For example, my sons talk to people on every
continient, except Antartica, every day using SKYPE. He and his younger
brother simply have no concept of a long distance call.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Making your enemy reliant on software you support is the best revenge.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnj163c9.vgq.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...

William Sommerwerck wrote:

I just realized you're not in the States. So much for that.

Besides the time difference, what's that matter? Most people outside
the US have some way of calling the US, often for less than they pay
for local calls.

Or possibly SKYPE? For example, my sons talk to people on every
continient, except Antartica, every day using SKYPE. He and his
younger brother simply have no concept of a long distance call.

Fine with me. If the OP wants me to help, he can call me any time after 3AM
PDT (yes, AM) on Saturday or Sunday, and we'll see if we can figure this
out. 425-891-7082

 

[gecko]

Thank you William for your generous offer. I won't take you up on it right
now because, I think there was a level of truth in your previous post. I
thought I had the basics in principles (although no more than that), but
having taken the back off I think maybe I don't. I don't wish to occupy
your valuable time. It is generous enough that you would all help me this
way.
I may have a further inspection and if I feel I can find my way around the
set maybe I could take advantage of some more pointers at that time?

But many thanks again, it's very much appreciated.

Perhaps I could ask for a little clarification though: I am happy with the
concept of setting an overall black level, and then tweaking the Red and
Green as offsets from that. But although there are menu controls for R & G
offsets, there doesn't seem to be an explicit one for overall black level.
Would that be called something else, or adjusted in some other way, such as
a physical control. Or am I way off the mark?


"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:iuvabd$v0a$2@dont-email.me...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnj163c9.vgq.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...
William Sommerwerck wrote:

I just realized you're not in the States. So much for that.

Besides the time difference, what's that matter? Most people outside
the US have some way of calling the US, often for less than they pay
for local calls.

Or possibly SKYPE? For example, my sons talk to people on every
continient, except Antartica, every day using SKYPE. He and his
younger brother simply have no concept of a long distance call.

Fine with me. If the OP wants me to help, he can call me any time after
3AM
PDT (yes, AM) on Saturday or Sunday, and we'll see if we can figure this
out. 425-891-7082

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"gecko" <mjnk@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:Qu6dnUiXNr8Vo4nTnZ2dnUVZ8kydnZ2d@bt.com...

Thank you William for your generous offer. I won't take you up on it
right
now because, I think there was a level of truth in your previous post. I
thought I had the basics in principles (although no more than that), but
having taken the back off I think maybe I don't. I don't wish to occupy
your valuable time. It is generous enough that you would all help me this
way.

My whole life is valueless. Spending an hour with you Saturday morning is no
big deal.

I may have a further inspection and if I feel I can find my way around the
set maybe I could take advantage of some more pointers at that time?

Call me when you're ready.

Perhaps I could ask for a little clarification though: I am happy with the
concept of setting an overall black level, and then tweaking the Red and
Green as offsets from that.

Error. Error. Error. You do not set an overall black level, per se. You turn
the Brightness control down (almost) all the way, THEN adjust R, G, and B
until the beams just cut off.

Look on the back (or inside) for a Service switch. When you find it, try
moving it.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
<mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote:

Redundancy is your friend.

Well, not exactly. Cover thy ass, backups, and disk images are best.
RAID, mirroring, and tape backup are the road to hell. Been there,
done them all, and learned some really expensive lessons.

I learned that
working on live computer systems for commercial clients that ran 3 shifts
of CNC.

Ugh. Don't remind me. I had a customer running some APT program on
Lisa Xenix. They had two Lisa machines so theoretically, I was
protected. However, the system as stable as a house of playing cards.
Since Lisa Xenix wasn't getting updated, I didn't have that nightmare.
Instead, I had hardware failures, corrupted filesystems, and just
plain bad luck. So, to cover myself, it was:
find . -depth -print | cpio -odB | compress | \
rcmd machine_name "dd of=/dev/rStp0"
before attacking. That saved my posterior more times than I care to
admit.

Take them down for half an hour is a big deal.

I tried every variation of being considerate and nothing worked. Even
showing up at 2AM to do maintenance at the local hospital was a
problem. So, I went the other direction. I decided that I would set
the maintenance schedule and to hell with anyone that dared to
interfere. After checking with management, I would send out email and
post signs indicating that at 5:00PM, the servers would be down for
maintenance. At 5:00PM exactly, I would invoke the sacred
incantations:
sync; sync; haltsys
and wait for the screaming to start. Invariably, someone had files
open, or unsaved data. I didn't care. Trust me, it works far better
than trying to be considerate.

Screwing something
up big time and not having a redundancy plan to return before the upgrade
will lose you the client. Happened to me once on an old Novell 3.10 server
running a golf course point of sale system. Upgraded the OS to 3.12 and it
died in the process. Later figured out after a couple hours that the dos
partition was full and that's where the boot files are.

Ummm.... I think you mean 3.11. There was no 3.10. Next time, check
your disksapce with Volinfo and clean up marked for deletion files
with the purge command. Going from Novell 3.11 to 3.12 was a not
major project but did require having quite a bit of empty disk space.
incidentally, I have a (non-paying) customer running 3.12 on a 4GB
drive.

Deleted some
orphaned files, re-ran the upgrade and all was fine. Didn't lose the
client but they spent a lot of time entering sales they wrote down on
paper back into the system. I couldn't charge my time ethically so I lost
300 bucks. That taught me a good lesson.

Well, if you only did that once, it's probably not a major disaster.
In my case, I'm always finding new ways to burn my time. Todays mess
is a classic. Virus infected laptop. Customer wants me to save some
of the junk in the Documents dumpster. She said it was ok to reformat
and start over, so I didn't see any reason to remove the virus. I
copy the files to a USB flash drive, and shove the flash drive into my
main office machine with the intent of scanning for viruses. I didn't
have to scan as autorun.exe conveniently installed the virus on my
machine. It took me about two hours to get rid of it (mostly spent
scanning). Argh.

--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

 

[Meat Plow]

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:28:01 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com
wrote:

Redundancy is your friend.

Well, not exactly. Cover thy ass, backups, and disk images are best.
RAID, mirroring, and tape backup are the road to hell. Been there, done
them all, and learned some really expensive lessons.

Redundancy means cover thy ass. Any way you can. Had my fair share of the
Dell PERC2 RAID controller battery failures and complete loss of RAID
containers. Dead Fujitsu drives on the second day of service for a
Poweredge server. I could go one and one...

I learned that
working on live computer systems for commercial clients that ran 3
shifts of CNC.

Ugh. Don't remind me. I had a customer running some APT program on
Lisa Xenix. They had two Lisa machines so theoretically, I was
protected. However, the system as stable as a house of playing cards.
Since Lisa Xenix wasn't getting updated, I didn't have that nightmare.
Instead, I had hardware failures, corrupted filesystems, and just plain
bad luck. So, to cover myself, it was:
find . -depth -print | cpio -odB | compress | \ rcmd machine_name "dd
of=/dev/rStp0"
before attacking. That saved my posterior more times than I care to
admit.

Most I remember about Xenix it was an AT&T product I think. Mine is all
NT4 server, NT4 Hydra, NT4 Terminal Server with Exchange, Citrix
Metaframe,
Windows Server 2k, 2003, Novell 3xx, 4.xx. BSD and linux for routers
(before the hardware appliances) Cobalt Cube mail servers, managed
switches, fiber the whole shebang.

Take them down for half an hour is a big deal.

I tried every variation of being considerate and nothing worked. Even
showing up at 2AM to do maintenance at the local hospital was a problem.
So, I went the other direction. I decided that I would set the
maintenance schedule and to hell with anyone that dared to interfere.
After checking with management, I would send out email and post signs
indicating that at 5:00PM, the servers would be down for maintenance.
At 5:00PM exactly, I would invoke the sacred incantations:
sync; sync; haltsys
and wait for the screaming to start. Invariably, someone had files
open, or unsaved data. I didn't care. Trust me, it works far better
than trying to be considerate.

Most of my nets were hybrid Novell/Windows. I sent a message to the
Novell clients to inform upon an impending shutdown so people could
save their work. Hell I charged by the hour so it didn't matter to me how
long I waited for everyone to back out. I could tell who was still in and
what files were open from the Novell server. I also had to do backups onto
Travan with open files for the corp systems running CNC 24/7. Skipping
open files wasn't an option. 21 tapes rotated weekely, one kept off site.
I never had an issue with viruses or malware. New virus definitions were
automatically deployed from the server running CA.

Screwing something
up big time and not having a redundancy plan to return before the
upgrade will lose you the client. Happened to me once on an old Novell
3.10 server running a golf course point of sale system. Upgraded the OS
to 3.12 and it died in the process. Later figured out after a couple
hours that the dos partition was full and that's where the boot files
are.

Ummm.... I think you mean 3.11. There was no 3.10. Next time, check
your disksapce with Volinfo and clean up marked for deletion files with
the purge command. Going from Novell 3.11 to 3.12 was a not major
project but did require having quite a bit of empty disk space.
incidentally, I have a (non-paying) customer running 3.12 on a 4GB
drive.

My bad, 3.11. Yeah I didn't check first. My mistake. I had been thrust
into Novell because the Novell guy quit after only two weeks training me.
I was learning Terminal Server at the same time. We had one problem
Terminal server where this guy didn't put the server into the install mode
before installing Exchange server on it. What a f'ing nightmare it was
rectifying all the errors. Took Microsoft paid support. After that it
never worked right. Memory leaks galore. I eventaully wiped it, Poweredge
2300? RAID 5 box dual Pentium 2's at 266 mhz IIRC LOL! The Novell 3.12
server was the same hardware. They ran FaxPress on it. Them people at the
steel plant expected me to be their god. It was rough for sure and I'm
sure you know the story. Everyone had their own special need. I'm trying
to link Macola ODBC, Pervasive SQL workstation clients with MS ODBC with
third party modules, FaxPress functions for faxing and emailing out of
Exchange with one keystroke. Stuff like that. Nightmare.

Deleted some
orphaned files, re-ran the upgrade and all was fine. Didn't lose the
client but they spent a lot of time entering sales they wrote down on
paper back into the system. I couldn't charge my time ethically so I
lost 300 bucks. That taught me a good lesson.

Well, if you only did that once, it's probably not a major disaster. In
my case, I'm always finding new ways to burn my time. Todays mess is a
classic. Virus infected laptop. Customer wants me to save some of the
junk in the Documents dumpster. She said it was ok to reformat and
start over, so I didn't see any reason to remove the virus. I copy the
files to a USB flash drive, and shove the flash drive into my main
office machine with the intent of scanning for viruses. I didn't have
to scan as autorun.exe conveniently installed the virus on my machine.
It took me about two hours to get rid of it (mostly spent scanning).
Argh.

LOL...sorry I use Win 7 inside Oracle Virtual machine for such things.
Have an install of Malwarebytes and Sophos on it. I don't do anything in
Windows except to keep it handy for remembering how it works. I do have a
netbook with Win 7 on it but hell I hardly use it. Mandriva 2010.2 is my
main OS, I love going to pages where they try to upload and run malware
like that virus checker crap. I feel very safe using linux. My first
linux box was a Slackware 3.xx box used without x-windows for a cable
modem router in my home. Again before the Linksys appliances were on the
market. Had to find experimental drivers for the 3Com 305 10/100 network
interfaces so that tells you how long ago that was



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

 

[Aliaf]

Jeff Liebermann Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
<news:m2u917h86jkemhdttkqg3uf1b0s3opt2dp@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote:
=20
Redundancy is your friend.
=20
Well, not exactly. Cover thy ass, backups, and disk images are best.
RAID, mirroring, and tape backup are the road to hell. Been there,
done them all, and learned some really expensive lessons.
=20
I learned that=20
working on live computer systems for commercial clients that ran 3 shif=
ts
of CNC.
=20
Ugh. Don't remind me. I had a customer running some APT program on
Lisa Xenix. They had two Lisa machines so theoretically, I was
protected. However, the system as stable as a house of playing cards.
Since Lisa Xenix wasn't getting updated, I didn't have that nightmare.
Instead, I had hardware failures, corrupted filesystems, and just
plain bad luck. So, to cover myself, it was:
find . -depth -print | cpio -odB | compress | \
rcmd machine_name "dd of=3D/dev/rStp0"
before attacking. That saved my posterior more times than I care to
admit. =20
=20
Take them down for half an hour is a big deal.
=20
I tried every variation of being considerate and nothing worked. Even
showing up at 2AM to do maintenance at the local hospital was a
problem. So, I went the other direction. I decided that I would set
the maintenance schedule and to hell with anyone that dared to
interfere. After checking with management, I would send out email and
post signs indicating that at 5:00PM, the servers would be down for
maintenance. At 5:00PM exactly, I would invoke the sacred
incantations:
sync; sync; haltsys
and wait for the screaming to start. Invariably, someone had files
open, or unsaved data. I didn't care. Trust me, it works far better
than trying to be considerate.
=20
Screwing something=20
up big time and not having a redundancy plan to return before the upgra=
de=20
will lose you the client. Happened to me once on an old Novell 3.10 ser=
ver
running a golf course point of sale system. Upgraded the OS to 3.12 and=
it
died in the process. Later figured out after a couple hours that the do=
s=20
partition was full and that's where the boot files are.
=20
Ummm.... I think you mean 3.11. There was no 3.10. Next time, check
your disksapce with Volinfo and clean up marked for deletion files
with the purge command. Going from Novell 3.11 to 3.12 was a not
major project but did require having quite a bit of empty disk space.
incidentally, I have a (non-paying) customer running 3.12 on a 4GB
drive.

You've got to remember that when conversing with Meat Plow (aka
William Malone Griffith, II of North Canton, OH), he doesn't really
know what he's talking about.

Which is why he can smoke a RAID array by defragmenting it.

Deleted some=20
orphaned files, re-ran the upgrade and all was fine. Didn't lose the=20
client but they spent a lot of time entering sales they wrote down on=20
paper back into the system. I couldn't charge my time ethically so I lo=
st=20
300 bucks. That taught me a good lesson.=20
=20
Well, if you only did that once, it's probably not a major disaster.
In my case, I'm always finding new ways to burn my time. Todays mess
is a classic. Virus infected laptop. Customer wants me to save some
of the junk in the Documents dumpster. She said it was ok to reformat
and start over, so I didn't see any reason to remove the virus. I
copy the files to a USB flash drive, and shove the flash drive into my
main office machine with the intent of scanning for viruses. I didn't
have to scan as autorun.exe conveniently installed the virus on my
machine. It took me about two hours to get rid of it (mostly spent
scanning). Argh.

Oh, not good. Always disable autorun, always set up yer antivirus to
scan external drives upon plugging them in, and to open files on
external drives in a sandbox. If the files don't try to do anything
malicious when in the sandbox, then you can run the programs on the
external hard drive with limited privileges to ensure they don't do
something malicious that yer antivirus missed during the initial scan.


--=20
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/:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/__/ __/:/\/__/ /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\
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WHO IS 'MEAT PLOW' from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, giant-headed, gay 'bear'
biker retard who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while
wearing only assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr.
(aka Milt, Meat Plow, BlancoBear, Meat@petitmorte.net, Tripp)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Some of this sick fuck's best work, and comments from others about
him:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.buzzard.rules/msg/f630759d6303a19d?dmo=
de=3Dsource

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b76=
4
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945=
d
Message-ID: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

Meat Plow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------


--------------------
Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store (his sister's music
store):
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_av=
atar_1_0-150-150.jpg

Photo of William Malone Griffith, Jr. from uffnet.com:
(Note that it's the same person as in the photo above)
http://www.uffnet.com/library/headlines/images/news1376621745xlb.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=3D2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.j=
pg
--------------------

Meat Plow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive=
3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo =3D North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

Meat Plow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

Meat Plow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=
=3D11543&pass_case_type=3DVBD&pass_case_year=3D2002&pass_first_name=3DWil=
liam&pass_last_name=3DGriffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_=
no=3D2009-3533&litigant_txt=3DGriffith
--------------------

Meat Plow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Meat Plow describes his high-powered legal team:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

Meat Plow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
-----
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3D11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
-----

Meat Plow losing his connection to reality, insinuating that he's law
enforcement:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.07.02.00.58.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I could be LE posing as Meat Plow. It can't be dis-proven."

--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling (Ft. Wayne, IN) }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith (Ft. Wayne, IN) }
{ grandson Easton }
{ grandson Zakary }
{ granddaughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'----------------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
..---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon (=E2=80=A0 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
..--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
..---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
..--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'


----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=3D100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:=
P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=3D100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:=
P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=3D100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:=
P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=3D100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:=
P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=3D100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:=
P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d75=
3c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith =3D Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith =3D William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith =3D ?

Cheri Griffith =3D Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith =3D ?

Kristy Griffith =3D Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?

Who is Deborah Ann Griffith?

-----
Who is Sherri Renee Christie, William D. Christie (age 54) and Lillie
L. Christie, and how are they associated with William Malone Griffith,
II?

1345 Bison St. NW
Massillon, OH 44647
330-833-5313 (Sherri)
330-837-4967 (William)

2524 Meadows Ave NW
Apt. 4
Massillon, OH 44647

PO Box 36221
Canton, OH 44735
-----

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

It's time for a digital enema to flush this turd named William Malone
Griffith, II out of the system.

The exit is -.
|
'-----.
.---. .-----. |
| | '---. | |
'-. `-----|-' |
| '---'
'------------->
thataway

 

[landotter]

On Aug 22, 11:26 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear
limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

Forwarding to the correct newsgroup, since my bike friends have no
clue. ;-)

 

[Winston]

landotter wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:26 pm, landotter<landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear
limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

Forwarding to the correct newsgroup, since my bike friends have no
clue. ;-)

I *guess* it is a safety thing.

The arrangement appears to lift the worn brush off the
commutator after things cool off a bit, preventing
arcing.

They sure are proud of those parts:
http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor-Brush/8801097/764414

$55.75 US for *each brush*.

--Winston

 

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:59:53 -0700, Winston <Winston@BigBrother.net>
wrote:

landotter wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:26 pm, landotter<landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear
limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

Forwarding to the correct newsgroup, since my bike friends have no
clue. ;-)

I *guess* it is a safety thing.

The arrangement appears to lift the worn brush off the
commutator after things cool off a bit, preventing
arcing.

They sure are proud of those parts:
http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor-Brush/8801097/764414

$55.75 US for *each brush*.

--Winston
What are they - gold plated titanium?

PlainBill

 

[Winston]

PlainBill@yawhoo.com wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:59:53 -0700, Winston<Winston@BigBrother.net
wrote:

landotter wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:26 pm, landotter<landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear
limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

Forwarding to the correct newsgroup, since my bike friends have no
clue. ;-)

I *guess* it is a safety thing.

The arrangement appears to lift the worn brush off the
commutator after things cool off a bit, preventing
arcing.

They sure are proud of those parts:
http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor-Brush/8801097/764414

$55.75 US for *each brush*.

--Winston
What are they - gold plated titanium?

Platinum Unobtainium.

--Winston

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:28:00 -0700 (PDT), landotter
<landotter@gmail.com> wrote:

As opposed to what will happen now if I manage
to wear one out, it will gradually arc. But a small arc, surrounded by
insulating material. I'm no engineer, but it seems like
overengineering to me. Perhaps some Swedish law. Still not worth $55
per side. (!!!)

Many carbon brushes have wear indicators, but I've never seen anything
like the spring disconnect. I once bought a very used 1/2" electric
drill with very worn brushes. There wasn't enough spring tension to
hold the brushes tightly, so they arced badly. The plastic retainers
for the brass sleeves that make electrical connection to the brushes
were melted on both sides. If the plastic had melted through, the
brass sleeves would have touched the metal motor frame and created a
rather nasty shock hazard.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Winston]

landotter wrote:

(...)

Actually, they don't actuate until you've worn down the brush about
3/4 worth, then they pop out. Wait, I see what you're saying--they pop
out so you have enough contact to conduct current, but not so much
that the motor works. As opposed to what will happen now if I manage
to wear one out, it will gradually arc. But a small arc, surrounded by
insulating material. I'm no engineer, but it seems like
overengineering to me. Perhaps some Swedish law. Still not worth $55
per side. (!!!)

Well, I admit that I *was* guessing.

Still, it is a 'perspective' thing in a way.
Lots of times I would have been thrilled to bring an
appliance back to life for only ~$120 plus taxes and
shipping.

--Winston <-- Not thinking about those damned Maytag appliances.... DoH!

 

[landotter]

On Aug 23, 11:59 am, Winston <Wins...@BigBrother.net> wrote:

landotter wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:26 pm, landotter<landot...@gmail.com>  wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear
limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

Forwarding to the correct newsgroup, since my bike friends have no
clue. ;-)

I *guess* it is a safety thing.

The arrangement appears to lift the worn brush off the
commutator after things cool off a bit, preventing
arcing.

They sure are proud of those parts:http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor-Brush/8801097/764414

$55.75 US for *each brush*.

--Winston

Actually, they don't actuate until you've worn down the brush about
3/4 worth, then they pop out. Wait, I see what you're saying--they pop
out so you have enough contact to conduct current, but not so much
that the motor works. As opposed to what will happen now if I manage
to wear one out, it will gradually arc. But a small arc, surrounded by
insulating material. I'm no engineer, but it seems like
overengineering to me. Perhaps some Swedish law. Still not worth $55
per side. (!!!)

 

[Cydrome Leader]

landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:26?pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear

to rip you off.

why are they using a brush type motor in the first place?

limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

they're probably just inept, sweden is good at carboard furniture and not
letting go of disco, not clever engineering.

 

[landotter]

On Aug 23, 1:43 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:26?pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear

to rip you off.

why are they using a brush type motor in the first place?

limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

they're probably just inept, sweden is good at carboard furniture and not
letting go of disco, not clever engineering.

Thanks, I'm Swedish. Askos are beloved over here because they're
reasonably priced, last at least twenty years, and are incredibly easy
to work on. The motors spin at extreme speeds, but it's rare that you
have to replace brushes more often than every decade and it takes ten
minutes. I was just curious about the brushes themselves, which could
have been made anywhere from the EU to Mongolia...

 

[Jim Yanik]

Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in
news:j30scc$sj$1@reader1.panix.com:

sweden is good at carboard furniture and
not letting go of disco, not clever engineering.

Yet Sweden has fielded the SAAB/Scania Gripen,Viggen,and Draken jet
fighters,all excellent engineering projects,very advanced for their eras.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in
news:j30scc$sj$1@reader1.panix.com:

sweden is good at carboard furniture and
not letting go of disco, not clever engineering.


Yet Sweden has fielded the SAAB/Scania Gripen,Viggen,and Draken jet
fighters,all excellent engineering projects,very advanced for their eras.

the egyptians were good at stuff a long time ago too.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 23, 1:43?pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:26?pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for posting this here, but you guys are a technical lot. I fixed
my ASKO washer today by finding that one of the brushes didn't engage
because a wear activated spring loaded plug popped out. This raised
the brush far enough above the rotor that the motor stopped working. I
examined the situation and saw that there's several years left on the
brushes, so pulled both plugs, reassembled and carried on with
laundry.

a pic:

http://tinyurl.com/brushplug

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7914644&l=4e10ab32c3&id=648351594

What is the purpose of this design? When the brush reaches its wear

to rip you off.

why are they using a brush type motor in the first place?

limit, it will simply stop working, the plug's only purpose seems to
have me calling a repair person earlier. Is it some sort of Swedish
industrial scam?

they're probably just inept, sweden is good at carboard furniture and not
letting go of disco, not clever engineering.

Thanks, I'm Swedish. Askos are beloved over here because they're
reasonably priced, last at least twenty years, and are incredibly easy
to work on. The motors spin at extreme speeds, but it's rare that you
have to replace brushes more often than every decade and it takes ten
minutes. I was just curious about the brushes themselves, which could
have been made anywhere from the EU to Mongolia...

so what's the problem then?

your soviet designed, chain driven appliance with brushes in the motors
(was this an upgrade from the steam engine version?) lasts from 10 to 20
years and only takes 10 minutes to fix.

That sounds good to me.

 

[Jim Yanik]

Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in
news:j33cut$sm2$1@reader1.panix.com:

Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in
news:j30scc$sj$1@reader1.panix.com:

sweden is good at carboard furniture and
not letting go of disco, not clever engineering.


Yet Sweden has fielded the SAAB/Scania Gripen,Viggen,and Draken jet
fighters,all excellent engineering projects,very advanced for their
eras.

the egyptians were good at stuff a long time ago too.

JAS 39 Gripen is modern.
Good enough that other nations are buying them,IIRC.
ISTR that the US is buying some Swedish BOFORS weapons,too.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com