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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:49:13 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.10.22.48.22@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:34:52 -0700, Emmett BADASS Gulley wrote:
=20
On Jun 8, 7:50=C2=A0pm, Meat Plow <mhywa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:38:56 -0400, Alb=C3=A4tross wrote:
Emmett Dumbass Gulley is a convicted stalker who threatened
children with death,

LIE #1

You threatened to kill a child in your federal case fucktard. Maybe
you should refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQICzsImPFI

All over getting booted from an IRC chatroom.
=20
maybe you should just LEAVE and shut the fuck up
=20
You first.=20
Oh, I'm pretty sure you'll go first. Heh.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b76=
4
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
(2 meter, 6 meter)

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_av=
atar_1_0-150-150.jpg

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo =3D North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
..------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| ( sons Todd, Chris, Keith ) |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason Humberto E. Rivera |
| ( daughters Christina, Rosalio, Maria ) |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------'

Sister:
..------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| ( sons Richard, Christopher, |
| Brandon(=E2=80=A0), daughter Erin ) |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
..--------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| ( son Matthew ) |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
'--------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
..---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
..---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
..--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| ( son Billy ) |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


MeatPlow's grovelfest of an apology for being a fucktard stauker:
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d75=
3c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith =3D Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith =3D William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith =3D ?

Cheri Griffith =3D Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith =3D ?

Kristy Griffith =3D Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
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thataway
 
% wrote:
§ńühw¤Łf wrote:
Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> got on the no fly lits by saying
news:pan.2011.06.10.22.48.22@emutt.macspoofer.lmao:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:34:52 -0700, Emmett BADASS Gulley wrote:

On Jun 8, 7:50Â pm, Meat Plow <mhywa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:38:56 -0400, Albätross wrote:
Emmett Dumbass Gulley is a convicted stalker who threatened
children with death,

LIE #1

You threatened to kill a child in your federal case fucktard.
Maybe you should refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQICzsImPFI

All over getting booted from an IRC chatroom.

maybe you should just LEAVE and shut the fuck up

You first.

dude, who's yer 0bs3s51v3 s7alk3r???


hi grape juice
hi inbred canuck :)


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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:51:43 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.10.22.50.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:22:08 -0500, pandora wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 23:50:09 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:38:56 -0400, Albätross wrote:

Emmett Dumbass Gulley is a convicted stalker who threatened children
with death,

LIE #1

You threatened to kill a child in your federal case fucktard. Maybe
you should refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQICzsImPFI

All over getting booted from an IRC chatroom.

Well, he has shown repeatedly that he does have anger management issues
and flies off the handle when crossed/agitated/proven wrong etc.

Can you imagine a little kid getting that wav in an email? At least one
of the OPs in the WWF IRC chat room that received that was was a minor
child.
Been awful 'busy' lately, right William Malone Griffith, Jr. of North
Canton, OH?

Seems yer not on track to exceed yer record of last month, 480 posts
in one month. No idea why, though. Heh.


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/:/_/:/\:\__\\:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/ /\__\ /::::::::\__\
\:\/:/ \/__/ \:\ \ /\__\ \/\:\ \__ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/
\::/__/ \:\ /:/ / ~~\:\/\__\ \::/_/:/ / \:\ \
\:\ \ \:\/:/ / \::/ / \:\/:/ / \:\ \
\:\__\ \::/ / /:/ / \::/ / \:\__\
\/__/ \/__/ \/__/ \/__/ \/__/


WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
(2 meter, 6 meter)

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| ( sons Todd, Chris, Keith ) |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason Humberto E. Rivera |
| ( daughters Christina, Rosalio, Maria ) |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| ( sons Richard, Christopher, |
| Brandon(†), daughter Erin ) |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...--------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| ( son Matthew ) |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
'--------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| ( son Billy ) |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


MeatPlow's grovelfest of an apology for being a fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:49:13 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.10.22.48.22@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:34:52 -0700, Emmett BADASS Gulley wrote:

On Jun 8, 7:50 pm, Meat Plow <mhywa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:38:56 -0400, Albätross wrote:
Emmett Dumbass Gulley is a convicted stalker who threatened
children with death,

LIE #1

You threatened to kill a child in your federal case fucktard. Maybe
you should refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQICzsImPFI

All over getting booted from an IRC chatroom.

maybe you should just LEAVE and shut the fuck up

You first.
Oh, I'm pretty sure you'll go first. Heh.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
(2 meter, 6 meter)

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| ( sons Todd, Chris, Keith ) |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason Humberto E. Rivera |
| ( daughters Christina, Rosalio, Maria ) |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| ( sons Richard, Christopher, |
| Brandon(†), daughter Erin ) |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...--------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| ( son Matthew ) |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
'--------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| ( son Billy ) |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


MeatPlow's grovelfest of an apology for being a fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway
 
On Jun 14, 12:57 am, SAILAJA LOVES U <samantha9...@gmail.com> wrote:


Better...and not porn!

http://usera.imagecave.com/BobVilla/image0011.jpg
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:00:24 -0600, Lucky wrote
(<news:itjhn6$tkn$1@dont-email.me>):

Meat Plow wrote:
=20
Lots of people have jobs in Brevard. What's your excuse again?
=20
How come you are still hounding a street guy? When Alien has your CV=20
down to the finest detail?
=20
Emmett is himself. He actually is who he is.
=20
If Emmett is unworthy of you, then how do you explain Emmett's basic=20
honesty in standing and defending his real self, while you pretend to b=
e=20
someone other than who you actually are?*
=20
*see Alien
Yeah, MeatPlow (aka William Malone Griffith, Junior from North Canton,
Ohio) has constructed an online persona that is diametrically opposed
to his reality.

He says he's got a girlfriend. But he's been caught looking for
long-lost relatives using the screen name 'BlancoBear'. And using that
same screen name to surf gay porn, specifically at BearPorn.com, which
you can ascertain for yerself by trying to sign up with that screen
name... it's already taken. By Willy. Little wonder, though. He can't
even buy a Happy Ending hand job from a woman who works at a massage
parlor that specializes in doing just that. Women reject him, even
when money is involved, even with minimal physical contact. So his
claim of having a girlfriend is laughable. He'll have to post proof to
convince anyone otherwise (and pictures of you and yer sisters
together don't count, Willy. I know what all of them look like.).

He claimed in 2003 that he owned an IT consulting company that pulled
in over $10,000,000.00 per year. The reality is that he runs a small
fixit shop where he repairs computers, kitchen appliances, and guitar
amps. It grosses around $40,000.00 per year, and after taxes and
expenses, he's taking home just a bit more than $25,000.00 per year.

He claimed in 2003 that he was a majority stockholder in his 'family
company', Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation, and made large sums of money
from this stock ownership. But the reality is that OKOC is on its last
legs. It's barred from soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under
investigation in Ohio and Kentucky, it's already had a few lawsuits
against it, and there are 13 lawsuits still pending. All because the
principles of the company committed securities fraud. Please note that
in 2003, William Malone Griffith, Jr. claimed to be one of those
principles, he claimed to handle the finances for the company... so if
that's true, he had a very large hand in the financial fraud that took
place. The company no longer owns any oil assets or oil wells, it no
longer does any of its own drilling, it exists as a shell corporation
for the sole purpose of defrauding investors. Things are so bad at
OKOC that his sister Christine H. Griffith-Vick (Christine Vick), who
worked for OKOC for more than 20 years, jumped ship to become a
Realtor, at possibly the absolute worst time in history to become a
Realtor. So things are pretty bad at OKOC.

He claimed that he regularly made half-million dollar bank deposits.
But the reality is that he's never had more than $30,000 in liquid
assets at any given time in his life. And he'd kill for that amount
now, as a few hundred dollars is a large sum to him right now.

He claimed to be so rich that he owned his own home, but the reality
is that he rents his shitshack from David S. and Joan R. Shaner, the
owners of 308 10th Street NE, North Canton, OH 44720-2023. And he can
barely make the rent each month. Several months he's had to ask for an
extension from David and Joan.

He has admitted that he cannot afford a landline telephone. But he
somehow always manages to find the cash to splurge for the latest
cellular phone... first the Blackberry, then the Droid, and now the
iPhone. And yet he harangues Emmett Earl Gulley, II about him getting
a modest, basic phone. Hypocritical, since he's thrown money away on
several phones, rather than buying a decent phone and using it, while
avoiding the temptation to have the latest status-symbol douche-phone.
He can't really afford to throw money away on status symbols. He
should just accept the fact that he's a lowly loser in life and deal
with it.

He's got $8666.97 in unpaid credit card bills, for which FIA Card
Services and Bank Of America successfully sued him in 2009. But even
after 2 years, Willy's not been able to pay the money back. And the
interest and charges just keep piling up, as his credit score circles
the drain.

He has posted in sci.electronics.repair, asking for advice on fixing
his 8 year old GMC with 80,000 miles, with an Atlas engine that's worn
out (not sure why the idiot's posting to an electronics repair
newsgroup for advice on fixing an engine's bad rod bearings, but
MeatPlow's a fucking retard, so that explains a lot of it). These
engines are in the GMC TrailBlazer / Envoy / Rainier / Bravada / 9-7x,
and are being discontinued due to high construction costs of the
engine and some problems with them. He cannot afford a mechanic to fix
his losermobile, so he's got to do it himself. If he WERE the
successful businessman he claims to be, his time would be more
valuable than the few hundred dollars it would take to fix the
problem, and he'd take it to a mechanic to get it fixed.

But we all know he's not a successful business man. He's a bitter,
mentally-tormented loser who only attacks Emmett Earl Gulley Jr. on a
regular basis because Emmett scares him. He sees himself when he looks
at Emmett, or what could be himself if just a few things more go wrong
in his life.

So in a futile attempt to forestall the inevitable, he attacks Emmett,
thinking that he can drive the 'bad luck' demons from his life, and he
won't end up in the exact same situation as Emmett... broke, jobless,
homeless, with little hope of getting back on his feet before old age.

But he's too stupid to realize that in his doing so, he's actually
accelerating the inevitable. He's focusing his time and effort on
fighting with Emmett, rather than fixing the problems in his life. So
those problems grow.

And now, to compound his problems, he's got me to contend with. And if
he thinks I'm just posting to usenet, he's sadly mistaken. By the time
I'm done, every single adult in his area will know to avoid his
business. He'll see his income slowly dwindle to nothing. And he will
end up exactly like Emmett Earl Gulley, II of Melbourne, FL.

It takes very little of my actual time or money to do so, you see.
People in call centers in India work for peanuts, and my income allows
me the luxury of taking an abusive asshole like William Malone
Griffith, Jr. down to teach him a valuable life lesson. Namely, 'treat
others as you would want to be treated, and if you can't do that, be
completely anonymous in yer abuse'. I've stripped the second option
from him, and he appears to be too stupid to implement the first
option without first losing everything.

And when that day comes that he loses everything, when he finds
himself with nothing and nowhere to go, that day will be just the
beginning. He'll have at least another 10 years of online harassment,
defamation and libel to contend with, just as he's dealt to Emmett.
Every employer will know to not hire him, no one will frequent any
business he tries to start, he'll be excommunicated from society.
He'll find getting back on his feet to be a nearly insurmountable
task, just as Emmett does.

Except he's 16 years older than Emmett. 16 years behind Emmett should
he slip into that situation. 16 years lost, that he won't have to
attempt a comeback.

And we can all sit back and laugh at his expense. Just as he now
laughs at Emmett.

It will be the epitome of poetic justice, of karma come full-circle to
kick William Malone Griffith, Jr. square in the ass.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b76=
4
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_av=
atar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=3D2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.j=
pg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo =3D North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=
=3D11543&pass_case_type=3DVBD&pass_case_year=3D2002&pass_first_name=3DWil=
liam&pass_last_name=3DGriffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_=
no=3D2009-3533&litigant_txt=3DGriffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3D11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
..------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| { son Todd E. Werling } |
| { son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) } |
| { son Keith } |
| { son Easton } |
| { son Zakary } |
| { daughter Camella } |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera |
| { daughter Christina } |
| { daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) } |
| { daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) } |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| { son Richard } |
| { son Christopher (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Brandon (=E2=80=A0 30 May 1996) } |
| { daughter Erin } |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| { son Matthew } |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
|-----------------------------------|
| Re/Max Edge Realty |
| North Canton / Massillon / Canton |
| Realtor Christine H. Vick |
| |
| 6929 Portage St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6535 |
| 330-236-5100 |
| 888-830-6509 (fax) |
| 330-904-0883 (cell) |
| www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com |
| MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com |
'-----------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
..---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
..---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz, OH EMT |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
..--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| { son Billy } |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

Niece:
..----------------------------.
| Rachel & Adam T. Livengood |
| { son Lukas } |
| { daughter Lauren } |
| |
| 6342 Palmer Dr. NW |
| Canton, OH 44718 |
| 330-497-7754 |
'----------------------------'

Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
..---------------------------------.
| William M. Griffith |
| |
| between 3rd and 4th St |
| between Monroe and Lincoln Ave. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2539 |
'---------------------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d75=
3c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith =3D Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith =3D William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith =3D ?

Cheri Griffith =3D Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith =3D ?

Kristy Griffith =3D Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The exit is -.
|
'-----.
.---. .-----. |
| | '---. | |
'-. `-----|-' |
| '---'
'------------->
thataway
 
"gecko" <mjnk@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:OIGdndNRdNfLyp7TnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com...
This specifically relates to a Philips 28pw9527 television, but a generic
response would be helpful, at least initially.

Over a period of about a year or so the black level on the blue gun has
gradually increased (my interpretation). Initially it was noticeable only
in dark scenes with studio scenes apparently unaffected but now there is a
significant blue hue over all pictures. The attached examples show a
normal programme and a screen showing "black" (the latter is perhaps
exaggerated on the photo, and the moire is an artefact of the photo, but
the (flyback?) lines are real.

Can you explain what might cause this? Is it likely to be terminal? If
fixable, what is it likely to be? This has been a great set capable of a
fabulous picture and it would be a shame to lose it.

I have electronic experience with low-voltage devices but none with tubes
or televisions. I have the service manual, but can't really claim to
understand the circuits. Any help - detailed or generic - would be
gratefully received.

I have searched through http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq.htm and
other sites can't find symptoms which sound specifically like mine. I
have found similar symptoms which apparently all point to a failing tube,
but I am reluctant to believe that because only the blue gun is affected
on my set. Am I wrong?

Many thanks

There are adjustments for this, older sets use potentiometers, newer ones
set values of drive, cutoff etc in memory and are adjusted through the
"servicer menu", a hidden function accessed by a certain string of button
presses on the remote. Not given to consumers because there are so many
technical adjustments that would just mess up the set if messed with by the
unknowledgeable.

Mark Z.
 
This specifically relates to a Philips 28pw9527 television, but a generic
response would be helpful, at least initially.

Over a period of about a year or so the black level on the blue gun has
gradually increased (my interpretation).
The most-likely explanation is that the bias on the blue gun is drifting
"upward", so the darker areas of the picture are turning blue. You don't
need to understand the circuits to fix the problem. (I could make a
wisecrack, but I won't.)

This is easily fixable, if the set has potentiometers on the back. You're
looking for the one marked "blue screen", or something similar. You need to
turn it down (CCW, presumably) a bit.

Mark pointed out that some sets use a software-based system, which requires
gaining access to the service menu. Regardless, browse the manual to find
the "setup" section.
 
Mark Zacharias <mark_zacharias@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4e047d5f$0$27993$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
"gecko" <mjnk@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:OIGdndNRdNfLyp7TnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com...
This specifically relates to a Philips 28pw9527 television, but a
generic
response would be helpful, at least initially.

Over a period of about a year or so the black level on the blue gun has
gradually increased (my interpretation). Initially it was noticeable
only
in dark scenes with studio scenes apparently unaffected but now there is
a
significant blue hue over all pictures. The attached examples show a
normal programme and a screen showing "black" (the latter is perhaps
exaggerated on the photo, and the moire is an artefact of the photo, but
the (flyback?) lines are real.

Can you explain what might cause this? Is it likely to be terminal? If
fixable, what is it likely to be? This has been a great set capable of
a
fabulous picture and it would be a shame to lose it.

I have electronic experience with low-voltage devices but none with
tubes
or televisions. I have the service manual, but can't really claim to
understand the circuits. Any help - detailed or generic - would be
gratefully received.

I have searched through http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq.htm and
other sites can't find symptoms which sound specifically like mine. I
have found similar symptoms which apparently all point to a failing
tube,
but I am reluctant to believe that because only the blue gun is affected
on my set. Am I wrong?

Many thanks




There are adjustments for this, older sets use potentiometers, newer ones
set values of drive, cutoff etc in memory and are adjusted through the
"servicer menu", a hidden function accessed by a certain string of button
presses on the remote. Not given to consumers because there are so many
technical adjustments that would just mess up the set if messed with by
the
unknowledgeable.

Mark Z.
Swapping the drive for blue and red gun , say , will show if its a problem
with the drive or the output stage.
 
As is typical of all UseNet groups, this discussion is wandering.

We have given the OP the basic information he needs to get started. (I would
also recommend he read a book on color TV operation and servicing.) He needs
to look through the service manual for information about setting up the
set's "tracking". Once he's done that, and perhaps fiddled a bit more with
the set, he can come back and ask more questions.
 
On Jun 24, 8:13 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
Mark Zacharias <mark_zachar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:4e047d5f$0$27993$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...





"gecko" <m...@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:OIGdndNRdNfLyp7TnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com...
This specifically relates to a Philips 28pw9527 television, but a
generic
response would be helpful, at least initially.

Over a period of about a year or so the black level on the blue gun has
gradually increased (my interpretation).  Initially it was noticeable
only
in dark scenes with studio scenes apparently unaffected but now there is
a
significant blue hue over all pictures.  The attached examples show a
normal programme and a screen showing "black" (the latter is  perhaps
exaggerated on the photo, and the moire is an artefact of the photo, but
the (flyback?) lines are real.

Can you explain what might cause this?  Is it likely to be terminal?  If
fixable, what is it likely to be?  This has been a great set capable of
a
fabulous picture and it would be a shame to lose it.

I have electronic experience with low-voltage devices but none with
tubes
or televisions.  I have the service manual, but can't really claim to
understand the circuits.  Any help - detailed or generic - would be
gratefully received.

I have searched throughhttp://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq.htmand
other sites can't find symptoms which sound specifically like mine.  I
have found similar symptoms which apparently all point to a failing
tube,
but I am reluctant to believe that because only the blue gun is affected
on my set. Am I wrong?

Many thanks

There are adjustments for this, older sets use potentiometers, newer ones
set values of drive, cutoff etc in memory and are adjusted through the
"servicer menu", a hidden function accessed by a certain string of button
presses on the remote. Not given to consumers because there are so many
technical adjustments that would just mess up the set if messed with by
the
unknowledgeable.

Mark Z.

Swapping the drive for blue and red gun , say , will show if its a problem
with  the drive or the output stage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
That depends on how the set is set up. If three separate cathodes and
grids, maybe ok. If a common cathode for all three guns, also maybe
ok. But neither is a sure thing.
 
Do you all work on these things or what ?

This is a Phillips and if it is a CRT based RPTV it has contaminated
coolant. Look at the bright areas of the picture, are they yellow ? I
bet a case of beer they are.

I've seen worse, one said to pierce the anode caps to discharge the HV
here in SER, geez, that would make for $200 additional work. Talk
about not knowing WTF one is doing. But this is not as bad.

Anyway, look in the lens, THE LENS. It will be all hazy. Take it
apart, clean it up and change the fluid. I have done hundreds of them.
And more in other brands. But NAPs get it in the blue and green
mainly. If you can't get the fluid anywhere else, get it from MCM. We
were getting it for about a third of what they charge by we bought a
hell of alot of it.

It's caused because they leave an air gap, to help prevent leakage,
which happens from the gradual expansion of the fluid over time. It
doesn't work because they still leak at times. Plus I think their
coolant is not the best.

If you attempt to service an RPTV that is CRT based and don't get the
idea to look straight into the lens(es) when you see this, do
something else.

J
 
On Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:42:55 PM UTC-7, Robert Macy wrote:
Have an old HP LaserJet 5L that is streaking on the page.
The streaks are horizontal [perpendicular] to the paper path.
[and paper feed is problematic]

There are several ways the perpendicular-streak symptom can
be generated. It can be a power or gain fluctuation in
the laser drive (this is rare). It might be a
faulty corona discharge wire/connection; if you can identify
the HV contacts you can clean those with isopropyl alcohol.
it can be a light leak (easy to check, just make test pages
in the dark). And, if toner has made a dirty streak on the
toner cartridge in the past, it MIGHT have transferred a dirty
stripe to the fuser roller. Repetitive streaks tell you the
circumference of the roller that causes this kind of problem.
I've had some luck (not much) cleaning photoconductor drums
with Scotch tape; stick the tape over the deposit, then lift
the tape off and hope the deposit comes with the tape.
Any roller OTHER THAN the photoconductor can be cleaned
with isopropyl alcohol.

For paper feed, clean the pickup rollers (rubbery things that drag the
top sheet of paper) with isopropyl alcohol.
 
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:08:16 -0700, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:42:55 PM UTC-7, Robert Macy wrote:
Have an old HP LaserJet 5L that is streaking on the page. The streaks
are horizontal [perpendicular] to the paper path.
[and paper feed is problematic]

There are several ways the perpendicular-streak symptom can be
generated. It can be a power or gain fluctuation in the laser drive
(this is rare). It might be a faulty corona discharge wire/connection;
if you can identify the HV contacts you can clean those with isopropyl
alcohol. it can be a light leak (easy to check, just make test pages in
the dark). And, if toner has made a dirty streak on the toner
cartridge in the past, it MIGHT have transferred a dirty stripe to the
fuser roller. Repetitive streaks tell you the circumference of the
roller that causes this kind of problem. I've had some luck (not much)
cleaning photoconductor drums with Scotch tape; stick the tape over the
deposit, then lift the tape off and hope the deposit comes with the
tape. Any roller OTHER THAN the photoconductor can be cleaned with
isopropyl alcohol.

For paper feed, clean the pickup rollers (rubbery things that drag the
top sheet of paper) with isopropyl alcohol.
I've cleaned lots of 5 HP printer laser prisms and mirrors in industrial
applications. They are very prone to contamination from smoke.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
 
Meat Plow Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in
<news:pan.2011.06.30.01.25.41@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:08:16 -0700, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:42:55 PM UTC-7, Robert Macy wrote:
Have an old HP LaserJet 5L that is streaking on the page. The streaks
are horizontal [perpendicular] to the paper path.
[and paper feed is problematic]

There are several ways the perpendicular-streak symptom can be
generated. It can be a power or gain fluctuation in the laser drive
(this is rare). It might be a faulty corona discharge wire/connection;
if you can identify the HV contacts you can clean those with isopropyl
alcohol. it can be a light leak (easy to check, just make test pages in
the dark). And, if toner has made a dirty streak on the toner
cartridge in the past, it MIGHT have transferred a dirty stripe to the
fuser roller. Repetitive streaks tell you the circumference of the
roller that causes this kind of problem. I've had some luck (not much)
cleaning photoconductor drums with Scotch tape; stick the tape over the
deposit, then lift the tape off and hope the deposit comes with the
tape. Any roller OTHER THAN the photoconductor can be cleaned with
isopropyl alcohol.

For paper feed, clean the pickup rollers (rubbery things that drag the
top sheet of paper) with isopropyl alcohol.

I've cleaned lots of 5 HP printer laser prisms and mirrors in industrial
applications. They are very prone to contamination from smoke.
Did the OP state that the problem was smoke-related? No? Then why
bother posting this tripe, retard? You provided no solution as to HOW
to clean it, you just bragged (again) about how YOU could clean it.

In other words, yer a fuckwit looking for approval for the tricks you
do.

Approval denied.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
...-----------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith }
{ son Easton }
{ son Zakary }
{ daughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'-----------------------------'


Sister:
...----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
...---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
...----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
...----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
...-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
...--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
...-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
...---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
...--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'


----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:p7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:p7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:p7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:p7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:p7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway
 
I've cleaned lots of 5 HP printer laser prisms and mirrors in industrial
applications. They are very prone to contamination from smoke.
Interesting experiences....

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On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:26:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
<mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've cleaned lots of 5 HP printer laser prisms and mirrors in industrial
applications. They are very prone to contamination from smoke.
Cigarette smog is a big problem with laser optics. When I get a laser
printer that is covered with brown tobacco crud, I have to also tear
apart the laser scanner and clean the optics. It's even worse on a
copier or scanner where I have to clean the mirrors. My worst case is
an auto repair shop, where exhaust fumes and oil gets into everything.

Another day in laser printer hell. This has nothing to do with the OP
problem or the HP 5L, but might be amusing. I was working on an HP
LaserJet 4300dtn that had shredded the fuser driver gear (a common
problem and easy fix). Everything was working fine, until I decided
that the top cover needed cleaning (from my toner loaded
fingerprints). I spray on some 409 household cleaner, and get
interrupted by a phone call. About 2 minutes later, I finish the
call, spray on some more and wipe. I then run a test print and the
output looks like disaster. Very little black, lots of lengthwise
streaks, and a very panicky customer. What happened is that the
design of the 4300 top cover directs any fluids sitting on top
directly into the overpriced toner cartridge. Pulling the cart
confirmed that I had poured cleaner inside. Fortunately, 409 almost
totally evaporates, so it was just a matter of printing some pages,
shaking the cartridge, and printing some more. After about 30 minutes
and 30 pages, it was back to normal.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:18:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:26:14 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com
wrote:

I've cleaned lots of 5 HP printer laser prisms and mirrors in industrial
applications. They are very prone to contamination from smoke.

Cigarette smog is a big problem with laser optics. When I get a laser
printer that is covered with brown tobacco crud, I have to also tear
apart the laser scanner and clean the optics. It's even worse on a
copier or scanner where I have to clean the mirrors. My worst case is
an auto repair shop, where exhaust fumes and oil gets into everything.

Another day in laser printer hell. This has nothing to do with the OP
problem or the HP 5L, but might be amusing. I was working on an HP
LaserJet 4300dtn that had shredded the fuser driver gear (a common
problem and easy fix). Everything was working fine, until I decided
that the top cover needed cleaning (from my toner loaded fingerprints).
I spray on some 409 household cleaner, and get interrupted by a phone
call. About 2 minutes later, I finish the call, spray on some more and
wipe. I then run a test print and the output looks like disaster. Very
little black, lots of lengthwise streaks, and a very panicky customer.
What happened is that the design of the 4300 top cover directs any
fluids sitting on top directly into the overpriced toner cartridge.
Pulling the cart confirmed that I had poured cleaner inside.
Fortunately, 409 almost totally evaporates, so it was just a matter of
printing some pages, shaking the cartridge, and printing some more.
After about 30 minutes and 30 pages, it was back to normal.
LOL!. I used to do a lot of industrial clients. Steel cutters and
shapers, platics, rubber etc.. None of the stand alone lasers or networked
suffered cig smoke because it wasn't permitted in the office area. But
access to the offices was directly available to the plant. So the smoke
and fumes little as they may be directly influenced printer optics.
Probably any laser printer but 99% we sold were HP. One steel shaper
plant that cut specific shapes used magnetics to lift steel plate
and put them into the plasma CNC. The office complex attached to the
building was steel studs behind drywall. You could see the stud patterns
on the outside of the drywall outlined from metal particles being
attracted to the now magnetized studs. That was the first fiber job I
did. Ethernet wouldn't work with the high level of EMF to some
workstations 150 at the back end of the shop. So out of the server room
came fiber from the then 10 mbit HP hub with fiber transducer ports.
I later upgraded to 10/100 once we weened them off of Novell.
The environment in the office area was hell. Every time I got a call
and the CEO saw me you could see $$$$$ signs steaming off his head.
Nothing I could do about it except answer the service calls and respond.
I had a Safari van with bins full of replacement parts and usually didn't
have to order stuff. They were completely dependent on CAD going to their
CNC stuff as their orders came in.


--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
 
My thanks to you all. Apologies to those who haven't seen my previous
replies. It seems I have been responding directly rather than to the group.

I have been through the extensive service menu options and found the
following settings (with service manual instructions):
Cathode (set to 15 for all picture tubes)
Colour Temperature (select Cool/Normal/Warm) [currently set to Warm]
Red, Green, Blue (set according to table for colour temperature) [they are
within specified range]
Red BL offset, Green BL offset (defaults 7, 6)

So I guess I could tweak the last two upwards? But relative to what? I
can't see an overall black level setting. Should I adjust these up and the
brightness down, perhaps?

More importantly, Is this the best course of action? My gut feeling is that
the blue level is so far out, that some component (hopefully a resistor)
must be failing? I have now had a chance to look inside and think I'm
probably out of my depth. Those circuit boards are packed and double-sided.
If there's a faulty surface mount I don't rate my chances of finding it.
The microprocessor has no faults and no faulty components in its fault log.
So I'm on the verge of giving up on it, but would welcome your further
thoughts.

P.S. again to those who haven't seen my previous replies this is a 28"
conventional crt, not a projector.


"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:iu22f2$ufr$1@dont-email.me...
Mark Zacharias <mark_zacharias@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4e047d5f$0$27993$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
"gecko" <mjnk@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:OIGdndNRdNfLyp7TnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com...
This specifically relates to a Philips 28pw9527 television, but a
generic
response would be helpful, at least initially.

Over a period of about a year or so the black level on the blue gun has
gradually increased (my interpretation). Initially it was noticeable
only
in dark scenes with studio scenes apparently unaffected but now there
is
a
significant blue hue over all pictures. The attached examples show a
normal programme and a screen showing "black" (the latter is perhaps
exaggerated on the photo, and the moire is an artefact of the photo,
but
the (flyback?) lines are real.

Can you explain what might cause this? Is it likely to be terminal?
If
fixable, what is it likely to be? This has been a great set capable of
a
fabulous picture and it would be a shame to lose it.

I have electronic experience with low-voltage devices but none with
tubes
or televisions. I have the service manual, but can't really claim to
understand the circuits. Any help - detailed or generic - would be
gratefully received.

I have searched through http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq.htm and
other sites can't find symptoms which sound specifically like mine. I
have found similar symptoms which apparently all point to a failing
tube,
but I am reluctant to believe that because only the blue gun is
affected
on my set. Am I wrong?

Many thanks




There are adjustments for this, older sets use potentiometers, newer ones
set values of drive, cutoff etc in memory and are adjusted through the
"servicer menu", a hidden function accessed by a certain string of button
presses on the remote. Not given to consumers because there are so many
technical adjustments that would just mess up the set if messed with by
the
unknowledgeable.

Mark Z.


Swapping the drive for blue and red gun , say , will show if its a problem
with the drive or the output stage.
 
"gecko" <mjnk@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:Zs6dnYN3FLUSdo_TnZ2dnUVZ7sidnZ2d@bt.com...
My thanks to you all. Apologies to those who haven't seen my previous
replies. It seems I have been responding directly rather than to the
group.

I have been through the extensive service menu options and found the
following settings (with service manual instructions):
Cathode (set to 15 for all picture tubes)
Colour Temperature (select Cool/Normal/Warm) [currently set to Warm]
Red, Green, Blue (set according to table for colour temperature) [they are
within specified range]
Red BL offset, Green BL offset (defaults 7, 6)

So I guess I could tweak the last two upwards? But relative to what? I
can't see an overall black level setting. Should I adjust these up and
the
brightness down, perhaps?

More importantly, Is this the best course of action? My gut feeling is
that
the blue level is so far out, that some component (hopefully a resistor)
must be failing? I have now had a chance to look inside and think I'm
probably out of my depth. Those circuit boards are packed and
double-sided.
If there's a faulty surface mount I don't rate my chances of finding it.
The microprocessor has no faults and no faulty components in its fault
log.
So I'm on the verge of giving up on it, but would welcome your further
thoughts.

P.S. again to those who haven't seen my previous replies this is a 28"
conventional crt, not a projector.
I sincerely feel you should stop at this point. You are in way, way over
your head. Most of the people in this group would have little trouble
adjusting the set in-person -- trying to explain it via e-mail to someone
who doesn't understand the basic elements of color-TV adjustment would be
extremely difficult. You need someone to step through this with you.

If you like, call me over the weekend and I'll try to walk you through this.

I just realized you're not in the States. So much for that.
 

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