The Truth about Corona Virus Situation and what every person

[Rick C]

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:51 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 14:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:32:11 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 02:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fda-experimental-drugs-coronavirus

Wow, if it works DT will be a hero.


That sad thing is, there will be a large number of naĂŻve and ignorant
Americans who will think he /is/ a hero here. All he has done is got
things completely wrong, contradicting his expert staff at every step
(including here), and making random decisions that he thinks will make
the stock market go up. But like a stopped clock, he occasionally gets
something right by luck - and his drolling zombie followers think he is
a genius for his few successes, while all his uncountable mistakes are
just a Democrat / media conspiracy.

Obviously I hope the drugs here work - but even if they do, Trump is
doing more harm than good as he screws up American doctors' ability to
test them properly.

The drugs are available and known to be safe. If some people are
dying, it may save lives to use them now. If it works, use them
widely. If "testing properly" means years of careful clinical trials
and peer-reviewed papers, delay years until the virus has burned out,
people will die. What DT says is his sensible: go for it now and see
what happens.

No doubt some people will, and we will see if these drugs help.

Let me repeat - you haven't a clue how drug testing works.
Regurgitating shite from Trump does nothing but prove your ignorance and
naĂŻvety.

Let me repeat: people who don't want to consider ideas often resort to
insults.


That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?



It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.
Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.





“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.

That's the way he talks about everything. "I don't know. There's a lot of talk. I hear a lot of people say this. Maybe, maybe not, I don't know." Who the heck can't do that???

--

Rick C.

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[Martin Brown]

On 21/03/2020 03:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?

They may not be safe in the new context where we want to use them. Until
there is evidence that they work then they should be restricted to
clinical trials only. If it works then fine but if it doesn't...
>> It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.

It is mostly people with underlying health conditions though. Some
countries specialise in being vastly overweight and type II diabetes.

Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.

It is the only thing he knows how to do. He's a fucking game show host!
That and "YOU'RE FIRED!" - a phrase that he has now used on all the good
advisors in his administration that actually had any worthwhile ability.
He is surrounded now by clueless sycophants.

“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The only good thing to come out of this pandemic is that President
Flatulance will be toast by the end of the year. If he doesn't cancel
the presidential elections and install himself as dictator in chief.

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

They are in the sense that since he opened his mouth people in the third
world have poisoned themselves with overdoses of the named compound.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/chloroquine-poisoning-in-nigeria-after-trump-e2-80-99s-false-claims/ar-BB11tL3t

Isn't he a fine upstanding pathological liar! Shame you can't see it.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.

About as useful as fortune teller Mystic Meg's prediction:
"It will rain or go dark before morning".

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:22:51 +0000, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/03/2020 03:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?

They may not be safe in the new context where we want to use them. Until
there is evidence that they work then they should be restricted to
clinical trials only. If it works then fine but if it doesn't...
It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.

It is mostly people with underlying health conditions though. Some
countries specialise in being vastly overweight and type II diabetes.

Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.

It is the only thing he knows how to do. He's a fucking game show host!
That and "YOU'RE FIRED!" - a phrase that he has now used on all the good
advisors in his administration that actually had any worthwhile ability.
He is surrounded now by clueless sycophants.

“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The only good thing to come out of this pandemic is that President
Flatulance will be toast by the end of the year. If he doesn't cancel
the presidential elections and install himself as dictator in chief.

Polls vary, but his popularity has gone up lately.

I think this virus thing helps him, no matter how it goes.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:18:12 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:10:56 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:45:56 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:42:37 PM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 9:16:40 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:29:09 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-19 20:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:43:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 19:12, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:35:42 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 16:56, Winfield Hill wrote:
Rick C wrote...

Phil Hobbs wrote:

snip

I told you it was growing exponentially over a month ago when
you said it was being controlled.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Over a month ago would have been before the 20th February 2020.

If you look at the logarithmic version of the US case number graph it hits the axis on the 22nd February. In reality there were 35 cases by that date, so you didn't have enough numbers to justify that assertion rationally.

Sadly, you don't think clearly enough for your ravings to be taken as seriously as you'd like.

You just can't stand the truth. I was right.

You made a prediction that turned out to be correct. You did it at the point where the US Covid-19 cases were all imported - there were 35 of them at the time.

BS. When I said the Covid was growing out of control there were ZERO
cases in the US.

Patient zero in the exponential cascade probably got infected around the 17th February,

That's wrong too, the first patient was Jan 20.




but they probably hadn't infected anybody on the 20th February 2020, so the number infected wasn't "growing exponentially" at that point.

Confident assertions by half-wits can sometimes be right, but that doesn't make them any less half-witted.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Drone on, stupid.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:51 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 14:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:32:11 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 02:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fda-experimental-drugs-coronavirus

Wow, if it works DT will be a hero.


That sad thing is, there will be a large number of naĂŻve and ignorant
Americans who will think he /is/ a hero here. All he has done is got
things completely wrong, contradicting his expert staff at every step
(including here), and making random decisions that he thinks will make
the stock market go up. But like a stopped clock, he occasionally gets
something right by luck - and his drolling zombie followers think he is
a genius for his few successes, while all his uncountable mistakes are
just a Democrat / media conspiracy.

Obviously I hope the drugs here work - but even if they do, Trump is
doing more harm than good as he screws up American doctors' ability to
test them properly.

The drugs are available and known to be safe. If some people are
dying, it may save lives to use them now. If it works, use them
widely. If "testing properly" means years of careful clinical trials
and peer-reviewed papers, delay years until the virus has burned out,
people will die. What DT says is his sensible: go for it now and see
what happens.

No doubt some people will, and we will see if these drugs help.

Let me repeat - you haven't a clue how drug testing works.
Regurgitating shite from Trump does nothing but prove your ignorance and
naĂŻvety.

Let me repeat: people who don't want to consider ideas often resort to
insults.


That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?



It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.
Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.





“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He never should
have used the term "game changer". Also calling his own State Dept the
"deep state dept" was another example of failed leadership. It wasn't
a good idea to attack a reporter who asked what Trump has to say to
Americans living in fear. That reporter kind of loaded the question,
but that's what they do, and Trump falls for it.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 12:16:17 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:51 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 14:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:32:11 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 02:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fda-experimental-drugs-coronavirus

Wow, if it works DT will be a hero.


That sad thing is, there will be a large number of naĂŻve and ignorant
Americans who will think he /is/ a hero here. All he has done is got
things completely wrong, contradicting his expert staff at every step
(including here), and making random decisions that he thinks will make
the stock market go up. But like a stopped clock, he occasionally gets
something right by luck - and his drolling zombie followers think he is
a genius for his few successes, while all his uncountable mistakes are
just a Democrat / media conspiracy.

Obviously I hope the drugs here work - but even if they do, Trump is
doing more harm than good as he screws up American doctors' ability to
test them properly.

The drugs are available and known to be safe. If some people are
dying, it may save lives to use them now. If it works, use them
widely. If "testing properly" means years of careful clinical trials
and peer-reviewed papers, delay years until the virus has burned out,
people will die. What DT says is his sensible: go for it now and see
what happens.

No doubt some people will, and we will see if these drugs help.

Let me repeat - you haven't a clue how drug testing works.
Regurgitating shite from Trump does nothing but prove your ignorance and
naĂŻvety.

Let me repeat: people who don't want to consider ideas often resort to
insults.


That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?



It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.
Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.





“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.

That's the way he talks about everything. "I don't know. There's a lot of talk. I hear a lot of people say this. Maybe, maybe not, I don't know." Who the heck can't do that???

A competent, fit president?

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 9:23:06 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

On 21/03/2020 03:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?

They may not be safe in the new context where we want to use them. Until
there is evidence that they work then they should be restricted to
clinical trials only. If it works then fine but if it doesn't...

Who are you to tell a critically ill patient what already approved
drug the are allowed to try? That should be and is up to them and
their doctor. Which is what Trump is saying. Hell, doctors even
gave Remdesivir to the first Covid patient here, that isn't approved
for anything and it wasn't part of any study. Good grief.

 

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:18:12 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:10:56 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:45:56 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:42:37 PM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 9:16:40 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:29:09 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-19 20:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:43:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 19:12, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:35:42 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 16:56, Winfield Hill wrote:
Rick C wrote...

Phil Hobbs wrote:

snip

I told you it was growing exponentially over a month ago when
you said it was being controlled.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Over a month ago would have been before the 20th February 2020.

If you look at the logarithmic version of the US case number graph it hits the axis on the 22nd February. In reality there were 35 cases by that date, so you didn't have enough numbers to justify that assertion rationally.

Sadly, you don't think clearly enough for your ravings to be taken as seriously as you'd like.

You just can't stand the truth. I was right.

You made a prediction that turned out to be correct. You did it at the point where the US Covid-19 cases were all imported - there were 35 of them at the time.

BS. When I said the Covid was growing out of control there were ZERO
cases in the US.



Patient zero in the exponential cascade probably got infected around the 17th February,

That's wrong too, the first patient was Jan 20.




but they probably hadn't infected anybody on the 20th February 2020, so the number infected wasn't "growing exponentially" at that point.

Don't all cold and flu events start by growing exponentially?

It's impressive how many various waveforms have apparently exponential
early edges.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:54:51 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:22:51 +0000, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/03/2020 03:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?

They may not be safe in the new context where we want to use them. Until
there is evidence that they work then they should be restricted to
clinical trials only. If it works then fine but if it doesn't...
It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.

It is mostly people with underlying health conditions though. Some
countries specialise in being vastly overweight and type II diabetes.

Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.

It is the only thing he knows how to do. He's a fucking game show host!
That and "YOU'RE FIRED!" - a phrase that he has now used on all the good
advisors in his administration that actually had any worthwhile ability.
He is surrounded now by clueless sycophants.

“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The only good thing to come out of this pandemic is that President
Flatulance will be toast by the end of the year. If he doesn't cancel
the presidential elections and install himself as dictator in chief.

Polls vary, but his popularity has gone up lately.

I think this virus thing helps him, no matter how it goes.

For those who support Trump it doesn't matter what happens, he can do no wrong. For those who see him for what he is, it doesn't matter what happens because they see him for what he is.

This disease is his only chance at remaining in office, be declaring marshal law and not having elections. But by November we won't still be in this crisis, so that won't happen.

Now is when we should have marshal law. The Chinese did it and it has saved a lot of people. We have failed to do it and many will die as a consequence.

--

Rick C.

-+++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 11:22:44 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:51 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 14:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:32:11 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 02:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fda-experimental-drugs-coronavirus

Wow, if it works DT will be a hero.


That sad thing is, there will be a large number of naĂŻve and ignorant
Americans who will think he /is/ a hero here. All he has done is got
things completely wrong, contradicting his expert staff at every step
(including here), and making random decisions that he thinks will make
the stock market go up. But like a stopped clock, he occasionally gets
something right by luck - and his drolling zombie followers think he is
a genius for his few successes, while all his uncountable mistakes are
just a Democrat / media conspiracy.

Obviously I hope the drugs here work - but even if they do, Trump is
doing more harm than good as he screws up American doctors' ability to
test them properly.

The drugs are available and known to be safe. If some people are
dying, it may save lives to use them now. If it works, use them
widely. If "testing properly" means years of careful clinical trials
and peer-reviewed papers, delay years until the virus has burned out,
people will die. What DT says is his sensible: go for it now and see
what happens.

No doubt some people will, and we will see if these drugs help.

Let me repeat - you haven't a clue how drug testing works.
Regurgitating shite from Trump does nothing but prove your ignorance and
naĂŻvety.

Let me repeat: people who don't want to consider ideas often resort to
insults.


That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?



It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.
Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.





“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.


And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He never should
have used the term "game changer". Also calling his own State Dept the
"deep state dept" was another example of failed leadership. It wasn't
a good idea to attack a reporter who asked what Trump has to say to
Americans living in fear. That reporter kind of loaded the question,
but that's what they do, and Trump falls for it.

To a President who isn't paranoid that was an opening to say something to calm the public and to address what is most important to people making good decisions, their fears! But as is so common with Trump because the reporter wasn't kissing his ass he saw it as a challenge to his authority and had to respond with an attack. What a nasty reply!

--

Rick C.

+--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 08:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 12:16:17 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 11:24:30 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 15:06:51 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 14:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:32:11 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 20/03/2020 02:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-fda-experimental-drugs-coronavirus

Wow, if it works DT will be a hero.


That sad thing is, there will be a large number of naďve and ignorant
Americans who will think he /is/ a hero here. All he has done is got
things completely wrong, contradicting his expert staff at every step
(including here), and making random decisions that he thinks will make
the stock market go up. But like a stopped clock, he occasionally gets
something right by luck - and his drolling zombie followers think he is
a genius for his few successes, while all his uncountable mistakes are
just a Democrat / media conspiracy.

Obviously I hope the drugs here work - but even if they do, Trump is
doing more harm than good as he screws up American doctors' ability to
test them properly.

The drugs are available and known to be safe. If some people are
dying, it may save lives to use them now. If it works, use them
widely. If "testing properly" means years of careful clinical trials
and peer-reviewed papers, delay years until the virus has burned out,
people will die. What DT says is his sensible: go for it now and see
what happens.

No doubt some people will, and we will see if these drugs help.

Let me repeat - you haven't a clue how drug testing works.
Regurgitating shite from Trump does nothing but prove your ignorance and
naďvety.

Let me repeat: people who don't want to consider ideas often resort to
insults.


That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?



It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.
Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.





“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The lefty press doesn't indicate that he considers these drugs to be
*possible* game changers.

"I think it could be a game changer. And maybe not," he said.

That's the way he talks about everything. "I don't know. There's a lot of talk. I hear a lot of people say this. Maybe, maybe not, I don't know." Who the heck can't do that???


A competent, fit president?

The point is that he is using his authority to push immediate use of
known-safe drugs that might save lives. If it works, it can be widely
deployed and save a lot of lives. What the hell do we have to lose?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:95392900-cefe-41c9-
b5ef-ed92df236b5f@googlegroups.com:

Who are you to tell a critically ill patient what already approved
drug the are allowed to try?

Except it is NOT 'an already approved drug', ya dopey dumbfuck.

The group was a lot quieter for the month you were absent. Go back
to being so.

That should be and is up to them and
their doctor. Which is what Trump is saying.

Trump is an adolescent brains idiot at best and HE doesn't even
know what he is saying half the time.

Hell, doctors even
gave Remdesivir to the first Covid patient here, that isn't
approved
for anything and it wasn't part of any study. Good grief.

Yeah, and in review, they'd get their asses reamed for that
behavior.

Notable that you are STILL backing up the stupid shit that spews
forth from the DANGEROUS BUFFOON that is Donald John Trump.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:f95dcb9f-53f4-4af9-aeb4-d973805c34af@googlegroups.com:

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He
never should have used the term "game changer". Also calling his
own State Dept the "deep state dept" was another example of failed
leadership. It wasn't a good idea to attack a reporter who asked
what Trump has to say to Americans living in fear. That reporter
kind of loaded the question, but that's what they do, and Trump
falls for it.

He did NOT "load the question".

It was in no way a hard ball question. It was a sofball question,
and he should have responded 'presidentially', not like a worried about
his campaign and election prospects asshole.

His attacks on the media are among the first indicators that he was
and is an immature person, and should have NEVER been allowed anywhere
near and election bid then or now.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:f95dcb9f-53f4-4af9-aeb4-d973805c34af@googlegroups.com:

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He
never should have used the term "game changer". Also calling his
own State Dept the "deep state dept" was another example of failed
leadership. It wasn't a good idea to attack a reporter who asked
what Trump has to say to Americans living in fear. That reporter
kind of loaded the question, but that's what they do, and Trump
falls for it.



He did NOT "load the question".

It was in no way a hard ball question. It was a sofball question,
and he should have responded 'presidentially', not like a worried about
his campaign and election prospects asshole.

His attacks on the media are among the first indicators that he was
and is an immature person, and should have NEVER been allowed anywhere
near and election bid then or now.

+1

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:f95dcb9f-53f4-4af9-aeb4-d973805c34af@googlegroups.com:

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He
never should have used the term "game changer". Also calling his
own State Dept the "deep state dept" was another example of failed
leadership. It wasn't a good idea to attack a reporter who asked
what Trump has to say to Americans living in fear. That reporter
kind of loaded the question, but that's what they do, and Trump
falls for it.



He did NOT "load the question".

It was in no way a hard ball question. It was a sofball question,

It wasn't just one question, it was several focused on the new drugs
being trialed. Trump answered all them with a positive outlook,
and it sure looked like Peter Alexander couldn't let that stand, he
had to keep going and ask the final question, which was loaded.
Loaded because he asked:

"So, what do you say Americans who are scared, I guess? Nearly 200 dead and 14,000 who are sick and millions as you witness who are scared right now, what do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?"


Maybe you're scared, maybe somebody somewhere is scared, but by and large
Americans are not scared. Alexander loaded it with a mostly false
premise. They are concerned, worried, but by and large not scared.
He was negative on the potential for drugs, Trump addressed that,
but then he had to continue with the extremely negative question. And
that's what the press does much of the time, they just bait him. It's
not productive, certainly not in this environment. And then about 3 more
reporters wasted everyone's time by asking Trump about what just
happened, instead of important questions about the pandemic.

and he should have responded 'presidentially', not like a worried about
his campaign and election prospects asshole.

His attacks on the media are among the first indicators that he was
and is an immature person, and should have NEVER been allowed anywhere
near and election bid then or now.

Now would be a good time to remind everyone that you're a Republican.
Your party has stood by him, 95% support, they have enabled him, they
are running him for re-election. I left the party almost a year ago,
it's just the cult of Trump today. Look at yourself in the mirror, you're
part of the problem.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:2b1b1ec8-6ed8-4160-9e6e-0cb2228ff7e5@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:f95dcb9f-53f4-4af9-aeb4-d973805c34af@googlegroups.com:

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He
never should have used the term "game changer". Also calling
his own State Dept the "deep state dept" was another example of
failed leadership. It wasn't a good idea to attack a reporter
who asked what Trump has to say to Americans living in fear.
That reporter kind of loaded the question, but that's what they
do, and Trump falls for it.



He did NOT "load the question".

It was in no way a hard ball question. It was a sofball
question,

It wasn't just one question, it was several focused on the new
drugs being trialed.

No. The ONE question was the one Trump had a problem with, but
should not have.

Trump answered all them with a positive
outlook, and it sure looked like Peter Alexander couldn't let that
stand, he had to keep going and ask the final question, which was
loaded. Loaded because he asked:

It was a perfectly reasonable question, considering the spread rate
charts for other locations. You are a goddamned idiot to think
otherwise. Oh that's right, It has been established that you are a
goddamned idiot already.

"So, what do you say Americans who are scared, I guess? Nearly 200
dead and 14,000 who are sick and millions as you witness who are
scared right now, what do you say to Americans who are watching
you right now who are scared?"

Yep. A perfectly reasonable question for a news agency to ask.
What was WRONG was Trump's hate the media jackjawed response.

> Maybe you're scared,

Maybe you are retarded.

> maybe somebody somewhere is scared,

Maybe you are a retard wearing horse blinders.

but by
and large Americans are not scared.

Decidedly, you are an abject idiot.

Alexander loaded it with a
mostly false premise.

Ummmm... nope. Get a clue, dipshit.

They are concerned, worried, but by and
large not scared.

You are not only a horse blindered self imposed utter retard, but
you are also no fucking psychologist in ANY sense. You have the
finger on the button only of your ass. You must release it when you
come here though, because all you spew is retarded horseshit.

> He was negative on the potential for drugs,

And you are living in a retarded fantasy.

> Trump addressed that,

No. Trump 'addressed' nothing. That is the problem. Trump had to
be chided to get out of his golf cart and get something done, BEFORE
this retarded facade he is presently trying to use as a campaign
prop. Are you trying to say that you did not notice all the folks
patting each other and Trump on the back constantly INSTEAD of
getting down to brass tacks on this crisis? You're an idiot, boy.

but then he had to continue with the
extremely negative question.

You are a true idiot.

And that's what the press does much
of the time, they just bait him.

Bullshit. There are HOURS and HOURS of questions the retarded
evading jackass needs to answer. You dig, you stupid fuck?

It's not productive, certainly
not in this environment.

No. Trump campaigning each and every time he holds a 'news
conference' is flat fucking pathetic.

And then about 3 more reporters wasted
everyone's time by asking Trump about what just happened, instead
of important questions about the pandemic.

Oh... important questions. Like WHY did he dismantle the group
and offices whom were supposed to address matters as these?

And the retarded backstepping bastard said he "did" fill those
positions by loading up other existing offices with the burdens that
office had. That did not work out one fucking bit. They did exactly
NOTHING. Oh that's right... they do not exist, and Trump's retarded
sidestep should be deemed criminal because it contained lies.

and he should have responded 'presidentially', not like a worried
about his campaign and election prospects asshole.

His attacks on the media are among the first indicators that he
was
and is an immature person, and should have NEVER been allowed
anywhere near and election bid then or now.

Now would be a good time to remind everyone that you're a
Republican.

You are a cpmplete fucking retard, boy. No would be a good time to
figure out that the horse blinder method didn't work, you clueless
fuck.

>Your party has stood by him, 95% support,

Oops... your old line ain't working any more, PUTZ BOY!
Your numbers are off! And your 30 IQ means that you will not only
not get it, but you will fail to recover from the observation.
You're dirt dumb, boy.

they have
enabled him,

We all watch the nes, putz boy. We don't need a play by play from
the village idiot. You were gone for a month. Go back to that style.

> they are running him for re-election.

He will not be re-elected, PUTZ BOY.

I left the
party almost a year ago,

Yet you keep spouting TrumpTainted Trumpanzee retard spew, like you
are driving the fucking hayride truck.

> it's just the cult of Trump today.

Yes, and you seem to be having a really hard time achieveing escape
velocity, putz.

Look
at yourself in the mirror, you're part of the problem.

You ain't real bright, boy. I speak out AGAINST the current
members. Doesn't mena I have to leave the party because it is filled
with corrupt jackasses. Just means they need top be excised.


Shame we can't do that with you as it relates to this news group.
Shame we can't do that with you as it relates to you wasting Oxygen.

The world would be a much better place without you in it.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:19:07 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:18:12 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:10:56 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:45:56 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:42:37 PM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 9:16:40 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:29:09 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-03-19 20:08, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:43:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 19:12, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:35:42 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-19 16:56, Winfield Hill wrote:
Rick C wrote...

Phil Hobbs wrote:

snip

I told you it was growing exponentially over a month ago when
you said it was being controlled.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Over a month ago would have been before the 20th February 2020.

If you look at the logarithmic version of the US case number graph it hits the axis on the 22nd February. In reality there were 35 cases by that date, so you didn't have enough numbers to justify that assertion rationally.

Sadly, you don't think clearly enough for your ravings to be taken as seriously as you'd like.

You just can't stand the truth. I was right.

You made a prediction that turned out to be correct. You did it at the point where the US Covid-19 cases were all imported - there were 35 of them at the time.

BS. When I said the Covid was growing out of control there were ZERO
cases in the US.

And when was that?

Patient zero in the exponential cascade probably got infected around the 17th February,

That's wrong too, the first patient was Jan 20.

Imported cases got quarantined, which should have stopped them starting an exponential cascade - and clearly did for the 20th January patient. If you extrapolate the linear part of the US logarithmic plot back to the axis - zero - and the logarithm of 1 is zero - it hits the axis on the 22nd February 2020.

In reality a couple of cases didn't get quarantined and the exponential cascade probably stated in several different places a couple of days after the 22nd.

but they probably hadn't infected anybody on the 20th February 2020, so the number infected wasn't "growing exponentially" at that point.

Confident assertions by half-wits can sometimes be right, but that doesn't make them any less half-witted.

Drone on, stupid.

The stupidity here is all yours - as I've just demonstrated, again.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[mpm]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:16:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

says he has got all the way up to 43.2% approval.He got up to 44.6% after the Senate irresponsibly refused to impeach him.

Trump WAS impeached; the Senate did not convict him.
Perhaps you meant to say the Senate irresponsibly refused to remove him from office?

Which in my opinion was the right call.
But let's not get into it.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 8:35:24 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:2b1b1ec8-6ed8-4160-9e6e-0cb2228ff7e5@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:f95dcb9f-53f4-4af9-aeb4-d973805c34af@googlegroups.com:

And Trump is still incapable of saying misleading things. He
never should have used the term "game changer". Also calling
his own State Dept the "deep state dept" was another example of
failed leadership. It wasn't a good idea to attack a reporter
who asked what Trump has to say to Americans living in fear.
That reporter kind of loaded the question, but that's what they
do, and Trump falls for it.



He did NOT "load the question".

It was in no way a hard ball question. It was a sofball
question,

It wasn't just one question, it was several focused on the new
drugs being trialed.

No. The ONE question was the one Trump had a problem with, but
should not have.

Trump answered all them with a positive
outlook, and it sure looked like Peter Alexander couldn't let that
stand, he had to keep going and ask the final question, which was
loaded. Loaded because he asked:

It was a perfectly reasonable question, considering the spread rate
charts for other locations. You are a goddamned idiot to think
otherwise. Oh that's right, It has been established that you are a
goddamned idiot already.

"So, what do you say Americans who are scared, I guess? Nearly 200
dead and 14,000 who are sick and millions as you witness who are
scared right now, what do you say to Americans who are watching
you right now who are scared?"

Yep. A perfectly reasonable question for a news agency to ask.
What was WRONG was Trump's hate the media jackjawed response.

Maybe you're scared,

Maybe you are retarded.

maybe somebody somewhere is scared,

Maybe you are a retard wearing horse blinders.

but by
and large Americans are not scared.

Decidedly, you are an abject idiot.

Alexander loaded it with a
mostly false premise.

Ummmm... nope. Get a clue, dipshit.

They are concerned, worried, but by and
large not scared.

You are not only a horse blindered self imposed utter retard, but
you are also no fucking psychologist in ANY sense. You have the
finger on the button only of your ass. You must release it when you
come here though, because all you spew is retarded horseshit.

He was negative on the potential for drugs,

And you are living in a retarded fantasy.

Trump addressed that,

No. Trump 'addressed' nothing. That is the problem. Trump had to
be chided to get out of his golf cart and get something done, BEFORE
this retarded facade he is presently trying to use as a campaign
prop. Are you trying to say that you did not notice all the folks
patting each other and Trump on the back constantly INSTEAD of
getting down to brass tacks on this crisis? You're an idiot, boy.

but then he had to continue with the
extremely negative question.

You are a true idiot.

And that's what the press does much
of the time, they just bait him.

Bullshit. There are HOURS and HOURS of questions the retarded
evading jackass needs to answer. You dig, you stupid fuck?

It's not productive, certainly
not in this environment.

No. Trump campaigning each and every time he holds a 'news
conference' is flat fucking pathetic.

And then about 3 more reporters wasted
everyone's time by asking Trump about what just happened, instead
of important questions about the pandemic.

Oh... important questions. Like WHY did he dismantle the group
and offices whom were supposed to address matters as these?

And the retarded backstepping bastard said he "did" fill those
positions by loading up other existing offices with the burdens that
office had. That did not work out one fucking bit. They did exactly
NOTHING. Oh that's right... they do not exist, and Trump's retarded
sidestep should be deemed criminal because it contained lies.

and he should have responded 'presidentially', not like a worried
about his campaign and election prospects asshole.

His attacks on the media are among the first indicators that he
was
and is an immature person, and should have NEVER been allowed
anywhere near and election bid then or now.

Now would be a good time to remind everyone that you're a
Republican.

You are a cpmplete fucking retard, boy. No would be a good time to
figure out that the horse blinder method didn't work, you clueless
fuck.

Your party has stood by him, 95% support,

Oops... your old line ain't working any more, PUTZ BOY!
Your numbers are off! And your 30 IQ means that you will not only
not get it, but you will fail to recover from the observation.
You're dirt dumb, boy.

they have
enabled him,

We all watch the nes, putz boy. We don't need a play by play from
the village idiot. You were gone for a month. Go back to that style.

they are running him for re-election.

He will not be re-elected, PUTZ BOY.

I left the
party almost a year ago,

Yet you keep spouting TrumpTainted Trumpanzee retard spew, like you
are driving the fucking hayride truck.

it's just the cult of Trump today.

Yes, and you seem to be having a really hard time achieveing escape
velocity, putz.

Look
at yourself in the mirror, you're part of the problem.

You ain't real bright, boy. I speak out AGAINST the current
members. Doesn't mena I have to leave the party because it is filled
with corrupt jackasses. Just means they need top be excised.

You can't excise the whole party, 90% think Trump is doing a fantastic
job, stupid. And you're part of it, the cult of Trump.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:54:51 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:22:51 +0000, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 21/03/2020 03:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:04:42 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:20:06 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

That is true. And perhaps, since you seem to have failed to grasp basic
logic, you think that implies I don't want to consider ideas. This is,
of course, false.

And people who have repeatedly explained things in detail, may also
resort to hard truths. I am not insulting you, I am stating obvious
truths. You have rejected logic, explanations, information, references
to experts, and appeals to your humanity (this is all from many people
here).

What's humane about letting sick old people die, when we have drugs
that could help and are known to be safe?

They may not be safe in the new context where we want to use them. Until
there is evidence that they work then they should be restricted to
clinical trials only. If it works then fine but if it doesn't...
It's not just old people, 40% of serious cases are people 20 to 64.

It is mostly people with underlying health conditions though. Some
countries specialise in being vastly overweight and type II diabetes.

Men are twice as likely to die as women. I agree that the decision
to try off label use of approved drugs should be up to the patient
and their doctor. It's already happening. We're headed towards
an epic disaster, where hospitals will soon have to triage patients
and just let some die because we don't have ICU beds and ventilators.
It's not 2019 anymore. Taking some small risk is more than justified
and it should be up to the patient.

On the other hand, Trump should stop using the words game changer and
giving people false hope.

It is the only thing he knows how to do. He's a fucking game show host!
That and "YOU'RE FIRED!" - a phrase that he has now used on all the good
advisors in his administration that actually had any worthwhile ability.
He is surrounded now by clueless sycophants.

“I’m not being overly optimistic or pessimistic,” Trump added. “I sure
as hell think we ought to give it a try. There’s been some interesting
things happening and some very good things. Let’s see what happens. We
have nothing to lose.”

“You know the expression: What the hell do you have to lose?”

The only good thing to come out of this pandemic is that President
Flatulance will be toast by the end of the year. If he doesn't cancel
the presidential elections and install himself as dictator in chief.

Polls vary, but his popularity has gone up lately.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

says he has got all the way up to 43.2% approval.He got up to 44.6% after the Senate irresponsibly refused to impeach him.

> I think this virus thing helps him, no matter how it goes.

It give him more exposure. The people who are blind to his obvious faults get reminded that he exists.

If his incompetence ends up killing loads of American, even people as dim as John Larkin may notice.

China contained the infection at 81,054 cases and 3,261 deaths.

Italy is starting to slow down the rate of infection, but they've got 53,578 cases and 4825 deaths, and if the number of cases levels off it's unlikely to do it below 100,000.

The US has had 27,069 cases and only 84 deaths so far, but the number of new cases is still rising on an exponential curve.

If US infections and deaths top China's, despite having China's example as a warning and a case study in how to contain the infection, Trump is going to stuck with the responsibility - probably correctly.

My guess is that he's toast.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney