Screw in flourescent light bulbs.

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.

Are my LEDs magical then? Because they certainly are not warmer than I am.

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[GregS]

In article <op.ul0ldlk44buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker"
none@spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial
lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.

Less than 1.5 inch square, but it on a copper pad, on top a peltier, on top an aluminum
sink with a fan.


greg

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?

You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:55 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I have an honours degree.


Basket weaving doesn't count.

Physics and Digital Microelectronics.


Is it too late to get a refund?

In my day we were paid to get degrees. Then the governent fucked the education system.

No. it was when they paid you.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

That sentence just proves how childish you are.


Make up your mind. That is, if there is enough of it left.

I have never said you weren't childish.

Is that the best you can do, with your TWO HONORS DEGREES? What a
ripoff!


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.

So a sample so small as to be meaningless. Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages. They feel secure, in their own
space. I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

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[GregS]

In article <ghrsrp$sma$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:

In article <op.ul0ldlk44buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com
wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker"
none@spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial
lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

Less than 1.5 inch square, but it on a copper pad, on top a peltier, on top an
aluminum
sink with a fan.

Here are some not so bright. I think these are 10 watts or less.

http://zekfrivolous.com/pics/leds/gallery_photo-large_image-694.jpg

greg

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.

You really are dense, aren't you? Some LED arrays are built on an
aluminum heatsink.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&q=high+power+LED+array+aluminum>


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.

Are my LEDs magical then? Because they certainly are not warmer than I am.

No, just substandard.


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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:21:10 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

ian field wrote:

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ian field wrote:

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ian field wrote:
PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together
12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair
on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.


You must come from a large family then.


If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?


Birds of a feather flock together.


They took pity on him, and are trying to take care of him.

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?



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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:23:24 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0ldlk44buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker"
none@spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial
lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.


Less than 1.5 inch square, but it on a copper pad, on top a peltier, on top an aluminum
sink with a fan.

Which I assume is cooling it satisfactorily, thus I could hold it?


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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?


You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.

Yes, and so was Chernobyl. I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.

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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:39 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:55 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I have an honours degree.


Basket weaving doesn't count.

Physics and Digital Microelectronics.


Is it too late to get a refund?

In my day we were paid to get degrees. Then the governent fucked the education system.


No. it was when they paid you.

Your humour is deteriorating.

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"That's the talking clock", the man replied, with a grin. "Let me show you how it works!" And with that, he gave the gong an ear-shattering pound with the hammer.
Suddenly someone screamed from the other side of the wall, "KNOCK IT OFF, YOU ARSEHOLES! IT'S 2 AM!"

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:25:46 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

That sentence just proves how childish you are.


Make up your mind. That is, if there is enough of it left.

I have never said you weren't childish.


Is that the best you can do, with your TWO HONORS DEGREES? What a
ripoff!

Two? News to me.

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While proudly showing off his new fraternity house to friends, a college student led the way into the den. "What is the big brass gong and hammer for?" one of his friends asked.
"That's the talking clock", the man replied, with a grin. "Let me show you how it works!" And with that, he gave the gong an ear-shattering pound with the hammer.
Suddenly someone screamed from the other side of the wall, "KNOCK IT OFF, YOU ARSEHOLES! IT'S 2 AM!"

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.

They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?

I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.

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There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:19 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.


You really are dense, aren't you? Some LED arrays are built on an
aluminum heatsink.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&q=high+power+LED+array+aluminum

If it's too hot for me to hold, the LEDs will also be too hot. If the heatsink is working, then it won't be too hot for my hand or the LEDs.

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A first-grade teacher was having trouble with one of her students. The teacher asked, "Little Johnny what is your problem?"

Little Johnny answered, "I'm too smart for the first-grade. My sister is in the third-grade and I'm smarter than she is! I think I should be in the third-grade too!"

The teacher had enough. She took Little Johnny to the principal's office. While Little Johnny waited in the outer office, the teacher explained to the principal what the situation was. The principal told the teacher he would give the boy a test and if he failed to answer any of his questions he was to go back to the first-grade and behave. The teacher agreed. Little Johnny was brought in and the conditions were explained to him and he agreed to take the test.

Principal: "What is 3 x 3?"
Little Johnny: "9"

Principal: "What is 6 x 6?"
Little Johnny: "36"

And so it went with every question the principal thought a third-grade should know. The principal looks at the teacher and tells her, "I think Little Johnny can go to the third-grade."
The teacher says to the principal, "Let me ask him some questions?" The principal and Little Johnny both agree.

Teacher: "What does a cow have four of that I have only two of?
Little Johnny: "Legs"

Teacher: "What is in your pants that you have but I do not have?" (The principal wondered, why does she ask such a question!)
Little Johnny: "Pockets"

Teacher: "What does a dog do that a man steps into?"
Little Johnny: "Pants"

Teacher: What's starts with a C and ends with a T, is hairy, oval, delicious and contains thin whitish liquid?"
(The principal's eyes open really wide and before he could stop the answer...)
Little Johnny: "Coconut"

Teacher: "What goes in hard and pink then comes out soft and sticky?"
Little Johnny: "Bubblegum"

Teacher: "What does a man do standing up, a woman do sitting down and a dog do on three legs?" (The principal's eyes open really wide and before he could stop the answer...)
Little Johnny: "Shake hands"

Teacher: "Now I will ask some '"Who am I" sort of questions, okay?"
Little Johnny: "Yup"

Teacher: "You blow me, you feel good"
Little Johnny: "Nose"

Teacher: "I have a stiff shaft. My tip penetrates. I come with a quiver"
Little Johnny: "Arrow"

Teacher: "What word starts with an 'F' and ends in 'K' that means a lot of excitement?"
Little Johnny: "Firetruck"

The principal breathed a sigh of relief and told the teacher, "Put his ass in the fifth-grade, I got the last ten questions wrong myself!"

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:35:09 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.

Are my LEDs magical then? Because they certainly are not warmer than I am.


No, just substandard.

They are about as efficient as they get.

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There was an old professor who started every class with a vulgar joke. After one particularly nasty example, the women in the class decided to walk out the next time he started.
The professor got wind of this plot, so the next morning he walked in and said, "Good morning, class. Did you hear the one about the shortage of whores in India?"
With that, all the women stood up and headed for the door.
"Wait ladies!" cried the professor. "The boat doesn't leave until tomorrow!"

 

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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:17:29 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
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ian field wrote:
PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled
together
12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries,
he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable
enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy
work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be
fair
on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot
of
people.


You must come from a large family then.


If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?


Birds of a feather flock together.


They took pity on him, and are trying to take care of him.

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?

We don't want to know about your perversions!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?


You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.

Yes, and so was Chernobyl. I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.

Well, we don't have to worry about any of your bright ideas setting
the world on fire. For someone who claims to have a honors degree in
Physuics, you don't know anything. Do you ever cook anything, or do you
live on birdseed?


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

Your humour is deteriorating.

You said that I have no sense of humor. How can it be deteriorating?
You haven't read any of my comedy Sci-Fi writing, so what do you know?


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