Screw in flourescent light bulbs.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?

Because they are a lot smarter than you, and can easily con you into
doing the maid's work.


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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.

Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.

They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?

I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.

I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.

WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?


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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:19 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.


You really are dense, aren't you? Some LED arrays are built on an
aluminum heatsink.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&q=high+power+LED+array+aluminum

If it's too hot for me to hold, the LEDs will also be too hot. If the heatsink is working, then it won't be too hot for my hand or the LEDs.

Sure its ok. What's that smell? Someone is cooking bacon!


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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:35:09 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.

Are my LEDs magical then? Because they certainly are not warmer than I am.


No, just substandard.

They are about as efficient as they get.

Too bad we can't say the same about you.


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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of
the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It
isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated
to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others.
They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free
lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass
fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to
make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a
lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the
ceiling?


You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.

Yes, and so was Chernobyl. I prefer not to have things that hot inside
my house.


Well, we don't have to worry about any of your bright ideas setting
the world on fire. For someone who claims to have a honors degree in
Physuics, you don't know anything. Do you ever cook anything, or do you
live on birdseed?

He microwaves a readymeal.

 

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Peter Hucker wrote:

Your humour is deteriorating.


You said that I have no sense of humor. How can it be deteriorating?
You haven't read any of my comedy Sci-Fi writing, so what do you know?

From what I've seen PHucker has an opinion about everything and knowledge of
nothing.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:56:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?


You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.

Yes, and so was Chernobyl. I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.


Well, we don't have to worry about any of your bright ideas setting
the world on fire. For someone who claims to have a honors degree in
Physuics, you don't know anything. Do you ever cook anything, or do you
live on birdseed?

An oven is not mounted on the ceiling. An oven does not have plastic parts (in the actual light socket) that can become brittle with age and heat.


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A guy traveling through the prairies of the USA stopped at a small town and went to a bar.
He stood at the end of the bar, ordered a drink, and lit up a cigar.
As he sipped his drink, he stood there quietly blowing smoke rings.
After he blew nine or ten smoke rings into the air, an angry American Indian stomped up to him and said,
"One more remark like that and I'll whip your butt!"

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:57:58 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Your humour is deteriorating.

You said that I have no sense of humor. How can it be deteriorating?

You don't accept anyone else's humour, but you attempt to create your own. It's getting worse.

You haven't read any of my comedy Sci-Fi writing, so what do you know?

I was of course only referring to your activities within the group.

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A bloke is in a queue at the Super Market when he notices that the rather dishy blonde behind him has just raised her hand and smiled hello to him.
He is rather taken aback that such a looker would be waving to him, and although familiar he can't place where he might know her from, so he says "Sorry, do you know me?"
She replies "I maybe mistaken, but I thought you might be the father of one of my children!"
His mind shoots back to the one and only time he has been unfaithful, "Christ!" he says "are you that stripogram on my stag night that I shagged on the snooker table in front of all my mates while your mate whipped me with some wet celery and stuck a cucumber up my arse?"
"No" she replies, "I'm your son's English Teacher"

 

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot
of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.


Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.


They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?


I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.


I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.


WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?

Its a European term - e.g. egg laying chickens kept in tiny compartments so
small they can't even turn round!

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?


Because they are a lot smarter than you, and can easily con you into
doing the maid's work.

"The maid's work" - this explains your pompous snobby attitude.

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"Inflation is creeping up," a young man said to his friend,
"Yesterday I ordered a $25.00 steak in a restaurant and told them
to put it on my American Express card -- and it fit."

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:03:33 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.


Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.

It is safer in the house away from predators and cars.

They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?


I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.

You're projecting.

I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.


WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?

Ignoramus. HENS. Those things that lay eggs. Ever heard of "free range" eggs?

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Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:05:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:19 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.


You really are dense, aren't you? Some LED arrays are built on an
aluminum heatsink.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&q=high+power+LED+array+aluminum

If it's too hot for me to hold, the LEDs will also be too hot. If the heatsink is working, then it won't be too hot for my hand or the LEDs.


Sure its ok. What's that smell? Someone is cooking bacon!

Are you telling me you'd be happy to design an LED light where the LEDs were hot enough to burn skin? They wouldn't like that temperature.

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In a transatlantic flight, a plane passes through a severe storm. The turbulence is awful, and things go from bad to worse when one wing is struck by lightning. One woman in particular loses it. Screaming, she stands up in the front of the plane. "I'm too young to die!" she wails. Then she yells, "Well, if I'm going to die, I want my last minutes on Earth to be memorable! I've had plenty of sex in my life, but no one has ever made me really feel like a woman! Well, I've had it! Is there ANYONE on this plane who can make me feel like a WOMAN??" For a moment there is silence. Everyone has forgotten their own peril, and they all stare, riveted, at the desperate woman in the front of the plane. Then,
a man stands up in the rear of the plane. "I can make you feel like a woman," he says. He's gorgeous. Tall, built, with long, flowing black hair and jet black eyes, he starts to walk slowly up the aisle, unbuttoning his shirt one button at a time. No one moves. The woman is breathing heavily in anticipation as the stranger approaches. He removes his shirt. Muscles ripple across his chest as he reaches her. He extends the arm holding his shirt to the trembling
woman, and whispers: "Iron this."

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:06:19 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:35:09 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.

Are my LEDs magical then? Because they certainly are not warmer than I am.


No, just substandard.

They are about as efficient as they get.


Too bad we can't say the same about you.

There is nothing in here allowing you to work out my efficiecy.

Or are you working out how long I take to type each message?


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The other night I was invited out for a night with the 'girls.' I told my husband that I would be home by midnight, 'I promise!'
Well, the hours passed and the margarita's went down way too easily. Around 3 a.m., a bit loaded, I headed for home.
Just as I got in the door, the cuckoo clock in the hallway started up and cuckooed 3 times. Quickly, realizing my husband would probably wake up, I cuckooed another 9 times. I was really proud of myself for coming up with such a quick-witted solution in order to escape a possible conflict with him.
(Even when totally smashed... 3 cuckoos plus 9 cuckoos totals 12 cuckoos = MIDNIGHT!)
The next morning my husband asked me what time I got in, I told him 'MIDNIGHT'... he didn't seem pissed off in the least. Whew, I got away with that one!
Then he said 'We need a new cuckoo clock.'
When I asked him why, he said, 'Well, last night our clock cuckooed three times, then said 'oh shit.' Cuckooed 4 more times, cleared its throat, cuckooed another three times, giggled, cuckooed twice more, and then tripped over the coffee table and farted.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:56:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?


You really are dense, aren't you? The fixtures ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
HIGHER OPERATING TEMPERATURE.

Yes, and so was Chernobyl. I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.


Well, we don't have to worry about any of your bright ideas setting
the world on fire. For someone who claims to have a honors degree in
Physuics, you don't know anything. Do you ever cook anything, or do you
live on birdseed?

An oven is not mounted on the ceiling. An oven does not have plastic parts (in the actual light socket) that can become brittle with age and heat.

You said: " I prefer not to have things that hot inside my house.",
so you are either quite ignorant, or just another liar.


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There are two kinds of people on this earth:
The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:57:58 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

Your humour is deteriorating.

You said that I have no sense of humor. How can it be deteriorating?

You don't accept anyone else's humour, but you attempt to create your own. It's getting worse.

If you ever write anything funny, I'll let you know.

You haven't read any of my comedy Sci-Fi writing, so what do you know?

I was of course only referring to your activities within the group.

Yet you made a blanket statement that I have no sense of humor.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:59:57 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

Then why is it I'm the one who has to operate the vacuum cleaner?


Because they are a lot smarter than you, and can easily con you into
doing the maid's work.

"The maid's work" - this explains your pompous snobby attitude.

That some other people have a maid? How does that make me pompous,
or a snob, when I've never had a maid, or any help? I started working
part time at 13, after school & weekends at a TV shop. I still cook,
clean & do my own laundry. I also do volunteer work by collecting old
computers, repairing them, then giving them away to other disabled US
Veterans. I am no longer allowed to work, due to my failing health, but
I have to keep busy on the days I can get out of bed. All you do is
publicly make a fool of yourself.

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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

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ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot
of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.


Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.


They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?


I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.


I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.


WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?


Its a European term - e.g. egg laying chickens kept in tiny compartments so
small they can't even turn round!

Do they still do that? It isn't common in the US.


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There are two kinds of people on this earth:
The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:03:33 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:28:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.


So a sample so small as to be meaningless.

It's big enough.

Too bad you didn't study
statistics. Some pets like cages.

Parrots do not. They are supposed to FLY.


Then why do you keep them in your house? hey should be free to fly
anywhere they want to. You just keep them in a bigger cage.

It is safer in the house away from predators and cars.

Then leave them in Africa or South America where they belong.

They feel secure, in their own space.

As do prisoners?


I don't want to know about your time in prison, or your prison
'freinds'.

You're projecting.

I suppose you are against fenced in yards & dog houses, too.

And I suppose you condone battery farms.


WTF is a battery farm? Do you start with AAAA cells, then feed &
water them till they are full grown D cells?

Ignoramus. HENS. Those things that lay eggs. Ever heard of "free range" eggs?

Yes, they come from free range chickens. Rather gamy tasting
critters. You get on an international newsgroup, then blather on in
British slang, then throw a hissy fit when someone questions you.
Pathetic. Are you sure you aren't French?




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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:05:34 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:19 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.


You really are dense, aren't you? Some LED arrays are built on an
aluminum heatsink.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLD&q=high+power+LED+array+aluminum

If it's too hot for me to hold, the LEDs will also be too hot. If the heatsink is working, then it won't be too hot for my hand or the LEDs.


Sure its ok. What's that smell? Someone is cooking bacon!

Are you telling me you'd be happy to design an LED light where the LEDs were hot enough to burn skin? They wouldn't like that temperature.

Are you telling me that your mother had any kids who weren't born
brain dead?


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Peter Hucker wrote:

There is nothing in here allowing you to work out my efficiecy.

Or are you working out how long I take to type each message?

I would rate you at around -1E22 efficient. IOW, not enough to
notice, without quite a bit of effort. No matter how fast you type, the
output is less than worthless.


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