Screw in flourescent light bulbs.

[Michael A. Terrell]

ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot
of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.


You must come from a large family then.

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?


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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire
goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A
lot
of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together
12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair
on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.


You must come from a large family then.


If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:11:12 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ulymtmbw4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:41:31 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ulyjzptp4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker"
none@spam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:59:44 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <6PKdndp4LYqoTKPUnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@earthlink.com>, "Michael A.
Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:49:11 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps.

More often I've seen excessive heat from an incandescent making the
fitting
brittle, the danger not being fire directly, but the fitting collapsing
later
on.

A lot of incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of
CFL
lamps.

Explain.


You really don't know anything, do you? Some fixtures hold in the
heat. The incandescents & ceramic sockets can handle the heat, but the
thermoplastic in the CFLs melt, the electrolytics overheat and they
fail, or catch on fire.


When I first started using them about 17 years ago, I thought I had
a few light fixtures that were way too hot, and I worried about that.
By using CFL's I would be usinf less electricity and the fixtures were much
cooler.
If it was an incandescent fixture in the first place, they automatically
hold a fire for a very short period and suffocate it usually. I would worry
more about CFL's NOT in fixtures, I have one CFL in the front yard 24/365
and it probably gets real hot in the summer day, but so far its going
without
problems. Fully air sealed anyway.

Why do you have it on on a hot summer's day?



Cause I don't turn the switch off and on. I just leave it.
I do have parts to update my front lawn post including some spots
to illuminate some trees, and they will have a photo switch. I hope
the switch works on CFL's. I was going to check if this switch used a relay.

I don't need to illuminate my front lawn, there's a bloody streetlamp there!

When I eventually get round to building the pond and lighting it, I may have to
black out that side of the streetlamp (it's the old hemispherical dome
variety).


The trouble with street lights, only 10% of the light hits the street.
The rest just blinds you.

Funny, I've never been blinded by a street light. BMW headlights on the other hand....

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[Peter Hucker]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:24:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:12:38 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:49:11 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps.

More often I've seen excessive heat from an incandescent making the fitting brittle, the danger not being fire directly, but the fitting collapsing later on.

A lot of incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL lamps.

Explain.


You really don't know anything, do you? Some fixtures hold in the
heat. The incandescents & ceramic sockets can handle the heat, but the
thermoplastic in the CFLs melt, the electrolytics overheat and they
fail, or catch on fire.

Considering the heat generation is 75% less with a CFL....


You still don't get it, do you?

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.

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The other night I was invited out for a night with the 'girls.' I told my husband that I would be home by midnight, 'I promise!'
Well, the hours passed and the margarita's went down way too easily. Around 3 a.m., a bit loaded, I headed for home.
Just as I got in the door, the cuckoo clock in the hallway started up and cuckooed 3 times. Quickly, realizing my husband would probably wake up, I cuckooed another 9 times. I was really proud of myself for coming up with such a quick-witted solution in order to escape a possible conflict with him.
(Even when totally smashed... 3 cuckoos plus 9 cuckoos totals 12 cuckoos = MIDNIGHT!)
The next morning my husband asked me what time I got in, I told him 'MIDNIGHT'... he didn't seem pissed off in the least. Whew, I got away with that one!
Then he said 'We need a new cuckoo clock.'
When I asked him why, he said, 'Well, last night our clock cuckooed three times, then said 'oh shit.' Cuckooed 4 more times, cleared its throat, cuckooed another three times, giggled, cuckooed twice more, and then tripped over the coffee table and farted.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

I have an honours degree.


Basket weaving doesn't count.

Physics and Digital Microelectronics.


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[Peter Hucker]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:57 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:17:29 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of people.


Sure they are, when compared to you.

That sentence just proves how childish you are.


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More and more cities are instituting a 10:30 PM curfew for everyone younger than 18.
Experts say keeping teens indoors at night is the only way to make the streets safe for adults.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.

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More and more cities are instituting a 10:30 PM curfew for everyone younger than 18.
Experts say keeping teens indoors at night is the only way to make the streets safe for adults.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

ian field wrote:

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ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot
of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.


You must come from a large family then.


If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


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[GregS]

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial
lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.

I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

greg

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.

You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I have an honours degree.


Basket weaving doesn't count.

Physics and Digital Microelectronics.

Is it too late to get a refund?


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

That sentence just proves how childish you are.

Make up your mind. That is, if there is enough of it left.



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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:54 -0000, GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote:

In article <op.ul0i5hf34buhsv@fx62.mshome.net>, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:26:52 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:09:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


ian field wrote:

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A lot of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together 12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground form his shoddy work.

LEDs running on 12 volts are far less likely to burn than commercial
lighting.


Really? For the same power, that is 10 times the current. That
increases the chances for a fire.

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any
lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've
never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.


I got an LED array that uses 45 watts. See if you can hold that.

What size is it? If it's too hot to hold I doubt the LEDs will last long.

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".

Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Peter Hucker wrote:

They use so little power though. Anyway the main source of heat in any lighting is from the light source itself, not the wires supplying it. I've never felt any LEDs getting warmer than body temperature.

Truly amazing! Your ignorance is something to behold.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:06 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

I don't get how you manage to overheat something with a quarter of the heat input, no.


You really are dense, aren't you? The CFL isn't rated to operate
anywhere near the temperature an incandescent lamp produces. It isn't
glass metal & high temperature cement. Some parts aren't even rated to
stand boiling water. Some fixtures hold in more heat than others. They
are designed to handle the extra heat. Put a wimpy CFL inside that
fixture and it will die a quick death. Sometimes with a free lightshow
& fireworks.

I've got a CFL (100watt equivalent) in a completely enclosed glass fitting in the bathroom. It has lasted just fine.

I don't think I'd want a fitting that could hold the heat enough to make a CFL get to 100C. That would mean an incandescent would get a lot hotter than that! What of the surrounding stuff, like the ceiling?

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[Michael A. Terrell]

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Peter Hucker wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:14:26 -0000, Michael A. Terrell
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

What part of CFL lamps overheating and catching on fire
goes
right
over your head?

It only happens extremely occasionally.


A hell of a lot more often than with incandescent lamps. A
lot
of
incandescent fixtures are not designed for safe operation of CFL
lamps.


PHucker boasts of having rigged his house with cobbled together
12V
lighting
run from solar panels and scrounged end of life car batteries, he
most
likely had some scares using LV halogens in unsuitable enclosures.


With any luck, it will burn to the ground from his shoddy work.

He has a number of parrots loose in the house - it wouldn't be fair
on
them!


So, everything there is a birdbrain?

Silly term "birdbrain" - most birds are more intelligent than a lot of
people.


You must come from a large family then.


If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?


Birds of a feather flock together.

They took pity on him, and are trying to take care of him.


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The crazy, and the insane.
The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:55 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:25:18 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Peter Hucker wrote:

I have an honours degree.


Basket weaving doesn't count.

Physics and Digital Microelectronics.


Is it too late to get a refund?

In my day we were paid to get degrees. Then the governent fucked the education system.

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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:01 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

That sentence just proves how childish you are.


Make up your mind. That is, if there is enough of it left.

I have never said you weren't childish.

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[Peter Hucker]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:17 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:04:30 -0000, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

If the birds are so smart, why do they stay with him?

Because I look after them better than most "pet owners".


Really? Have you met most pet owners? Or are you just lying, as
usual?

I've met loads, ones I've sold parrots to or bought parrots from.

I don't keep them in cages. 99% of people do. And yes there is a lot of claning up to do.

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