RE Bigpond news server

[Noddy]

On 30/04/13 7:55 AM, Jason James wrote:

Just a further note on Google-chrome browser,..it shits on the Windows
IE from a big height,..try it

Chrome is okay, but like anything it has it's strengths and weaknesses.
I prefer Firefox myself but the current version of Explorer is quite
good and I'm still forced to use it on occasion to do some things that
Firefox doesn't seem capable of doing.



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[Feral]

On 30/04/2013 9:27 AM, Noddy wrote:

On 30/04/13 8:05 AM, Trevor wrote:

True, Telstra still have the best coverage, at a price. Unfortunately
their
service no longer matches the premium price.

Was there a time when it did?

Not Telstra - not even Telecom Australia - definitely P.M.G.


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[Trevor]

"Jason James" <5sfe22l@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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On Apr 30, 8:07 am, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:

"Jason James" <5sfe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
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Just a further note on Google-chrome browser,..it shits on the Windows
IE from a big height

So does Firefox or Opera, without Google tracking.

}By tracking you mean cookies?

Nope, you can turn those off. Your server connection is tracked regardless.

Trevor.

 

[Feral]

On 30/04/2013 9:35 AM, Trevor wrote:

"Jason James" <5sfe22l@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message

}By tracking you mean cookies?

Nope, you can turn those off. Your server connection is tracked regardless.

proxy?


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[Trevor]

"David Barnett" <dbar3518@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.2be9aca9180c43789896fe@news.eternal-september.org...

In article <6708a1ea-e628-47fb-8cb1-b0e29e931904
@zo5g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
wolfgangwildeblood@gmail.com says...
Or, that their tech support are unaware it has been removed. Not
unthinkable.

That is my thought on it.

Unthinkable not to think it possible IMO. Sure was with Optus!

Trevor.

 

[Trevor]

"Noddy" <me@wardengineering.com.au> wrote in message
news:klmvd6$umb$1@dont-email.me...

On 30/04/13 6:03 AM, Trevor wrote:
Exactly. They retrenched all the staff who actually had a clue, now they
are
nearly as bad as Optus and Vodaphone! :-(

I've had accounts with all three, and in my experience Telstra is *easily*
the absolute worst in terms of staff knowledge and customer service, and
by a very long way. Their only saving grace is that they have the best
network coverage, which forces you between a rock and a hard place.

Well it's a long time since I could afford Telstra, but the service once was
far better than anything I've ever had from Optus or Vodaphone :-(

If ever there was a country that needed a *massive* telecommunications
overhaul it's this one.

That's what John Howard gave us :-( Now we get to spend more taxpayer money
to upgrade the network than it was sold for. Lost the $5B every year they
were getting in revenue *after* network upgrade costs. Seen a triplication
of networks at great expense, a loss of a hundred thousand jobs in Telstra
and support industries, and the customer service has gotten worse.
Unfortunately the government can't "fix" it now, even with an NBN.

Trevor.

 

[Trevor]

"Noddy" <me@wardengineering.com.au> wrote in message
news:klmvec$umb$2@dont-email.me...

On 30/04/13 8:05 AM, Trevor wrote:
True, Telstra still have the best coverage, at a price. Unfortunately
their
service no longer matches the premium price.

Was there a time when it did?

Maybe not, but it was far better once than it is now.

Trevor.

 

[Jason James]

On Apr 30, 1:55 am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:


I know a lot of people don't like web-based interfaces, but Google-
groups is handy as a back-up while you sort your ISP probs.

The reality is, if you run Google-chrome web-browser as well, the
Google groups is quite good.

Years ago I had probs with Bigpond and its NG application. The tech
didn't know what they were,..so after consulting with his supervisor
was able to help me.

Just a further note on Google-chrome browser,..it shits on the Windows
IE from a big height,..try it

Jason

 

[Trevor]

"Feral" <plonked@home.ru> wrote in message news:klmvqt$ar$1@dont-email.me...

On 30/04/2013 9:27 AM, Noddy wrote:
On 30/04/13 8:05 AM, Trevor wrote:

True, Telstra still have the best coverage, at a price. Unfortunately
their
service no longer matches the premium price.

Was there a time when it did?

Not Telstra - not even Telecom Australia - definitely P.M.G.

Right, how did I forget all the name changes. Here's one you missed though,
Australian and Overseas Telecommunications Commission, when they originally
merged with OTC. Most people don't remember it, didn't last long under that
name.

Trevor.

 

[Feral]

On 30/04/2013 9:56 AM, Trevor wrote:

Right, how did I forget all the name changes. Here's one you missed though,
Australian and Overseas Telecommunications Commission, when they originally
merged with OTC. Most people don't remember it, didn't last long under that
name.

I didn't miss OTC because; OTC weren't part of the P.M.G. Engineering
Division. They featured separately in the Gazette.


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[Noddy]

On 30/04/13 9:50 AM, Trevor wrote:

Well it's a long time since I could afford Telstra, but the service once was
far better than anything I've ever had from Optus or Vodaphone :-(

Not today.

That's what John Howard gave us :-( Now we get to spend more taxpayer money
to upgrade the network than it was sold for. Lost the $5B every year they
were getting in revenue *after* network upgrade costs. Seen a triplication
of networks at great expense, a loss of a hundred thousand jobs in Telstra
and support industries, and the customer service has gotten worse.
Unfortunately the government can't "fix" it now, even with an NBN.

Thank Paul Keating. It was his deficit that Forced Howard to sell half
of Telstra in the first place.



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[Noddy]

On 30/04/13 9:33 AM, Feral wrote:

Not Telstra - not even Telecom Australia - definitely P.M.G.

Rubbish.

Given that there was *no* competition in the PMG's day whatsoever, how
do you qualify such a ridiculous statement?





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[Noddy]

On 30/04/13 9:51 AM, Trevor wrote:

Maybe not, but it was far better once than it is now.

It's hard to imagine that it could be any worse.

I've been trying to get an ADSL connection for the last 2 years now but
can't because I'm too far from the exchange. If that was *really* the
case then I'd just suck it up and move on, but the neighbour across the
road is 120 odd meters *further* from the exchange than I am and they
gave him one a couple of months ago. My dispute with telstra is ongoing
and has been for a while.

Yet at least three times a month I get cold called from Telstra's
"Philipines" based marketing department asking me if I'd like to change
from my wireless account to ADSL2.

Their left hand has no fucking idea what their right hand is doing....



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[Jason James]

On Apr 30, 8:07 am, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:

"Jason James" <5sfe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message

news:58d0e8f0-e2c3-4fe7-81b0-ad68b0d4720c@l2g2000pbn.googlegroups.com...

Just a further note on Google-chrome browser,..it shits on the Windows
IE from a big height

So does Firefox or Opera, without Google tracking.

By tracking you mean cookies?

Jason

 

[Jason James]

On Apr 30, 9:35 am, Feral <plon...@home.ru> wrote:

On 30/04/2013 9:35 AM, Trevor wrote:

"Jason James" <5sfe...@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
}By tracking you mean cookies?

Nope, you can turn those off. Your server connection is tracked regardless.

proxy?

They can track my browsing if that's wot turns them on

Jason

 

[D Walford]

On 30/04/2013 10:42 AM, Noddy wrote:

On 30/04/13 9:33 AM, Feral wrote:

Not Telstra - not even Telecom Australia - definitely P.M.G.

Rubbish.

Given that there was *no* competition in the PMG's day whatsoever, how
do you qualify such a ridiculous statement?





Also there were no mobiles or internet and a lot fewer landlines so its

possible service was better but there is no real comparison to now.
In the 50's my parents had the only phone in our immediate area so not
many phones to go wrong.


Daryl

 

[F Murtz]

Noddy wrote:

On 30/04/13 1:55 AM, F Murtz wrote:

The source of the problem seems to be, no one can access bigpond news
server any more,If I ping from here it times out.
Others say the same thing
Users everywhere are saying that telstra is stopping the service.

How would anyone *outside* Telstra know that, when Telstra *themselves*
can't give you an answer about it?

I have been trying for weeks and left an email to bigpond on the subject
and they sent me a detailed email on how to access it.

This sugests to me that the bigpond team seems to think that it is still
working

Given my experience with Tesltra over the last couple of years, I would
imagine that if their news server *was* getting the chop the "bigpond
team" would probably be the last to know

Honestly I don't know why you're getting so hung up about this as their
server was pretty unreliable even when it *was* working. Just subscribe
to Eternal-September or any of the other reliable news feeds and spend
less of your life worrying.


I use eternal september but it does not list some of the things that

telstra did.

 

[atec77]

On 30/04/2013 9:50 AM, Trevor wrote:

"Noddy" <me@wardengineering.com.au> wrote in message
news:klmvd6$umb$1@dont-email.me...
On 30/04/13 6:03 AM, Trevor wrote:
Exactly. They retrenched all the staff who actually had a clue, now they
are
nearly as bad as Optus and Vodaphone! :-(
our fskup
I've had accounts with all three, and in my experience Telstra is *easily*
the absolute worst in terms of staff knowledge and customer service, and
by a very long way. Their only saving grace is that they have the best
network coverage, which forces you between a rock and a hard place.


Well it's a long time since I could afford Telstra, but the service once was
far better than anything I've ever had from Optus or Vodaphone :-(


If ever there was a country that needed a *massive* telecommunications
overhaul it's this one.

That's what John Howard gave us :-( Now we get to spend more taxpayer money
to upgrade the network than it was sold for. Lost the $5B every year they
were getting in revenue *after* network upgrade costs. Seen a triplication
of networks at great expense, a loss of a hundred thousand jobs in Telstra
and support industries, and the customer service has gotten worse.
Unfortunately the government can't "fix" it now, even with an NBN.

Trevor.



You really are a fckwitt , we all know JH's response was to solve the

massive debt Keating created , another labor fskup

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[Jason James]

On Apr 30, 10:08 am, Feral <plon...@home.ru> wrote:

On 30/04/2013 9:56 AM, Trevor wrote:

Right, how did I forget all the name changes. Here's one you missed though,
Australian and Overseas Telecommunications Commission, when they originally
merged with OTC. Most people don't remember it, didn't last long under that
name.

I didn't miss OTC because; OTC weren't part of the P.M.G. Engineering
Division. They featured separately in the Gazette.

OTC trainee technicians used the DCA school for the first couple of
years [due the basic electronics being taught], then they switched to
dedicated OTC curriculum for the final 2 or 3 years..

Jason

 

[Jason James]

On Apr 30, 12:20 pm, D Walford <dwalf...@internode.on.net> wrote:

On 30/04/2013 10:42 AM, Noddy wrote:> On 30/04/13 9:33 AM, Feral wrote:

Not Telstra - not even Telecom Australia - definitely P.M.G.

Rubbish.

Given that there was *no* competition in the PMG's day whatsoever, how
do you qualify such a ridiculous statement?

Also there were no mobiles or internet and a lot fewer landlines so its
possible service was better but there is no real comparison to now.
In the 50's my parents had the only phone in our immediate area so not
many phones to go wrong.

In 1983 PMG [or wot ever they were called then] took 5 weeks to
install a home-phone. They dug a trench diagonally across my front
yard. Failed to fill it properly, so I got bogged in my own frontyard
with the 1800

Jason