PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[lynx]

HeadRush wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
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Mr.T wrote:

"Matt2 - Amstereo" <amstereo@ToptusDOTcomDOTau> wrote in message
news:45cb99b2$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

1.8 - 1.9 Ghz in both cases, except when a gsm phone is on 900 Mhz

And the fact that WDECT is usually 2.4GHz. But then that would actually
mean *different* in most cases wouldn't it?

And now 5.8 Ghz, which is what mine is.


If you have these concerns and have felt the symptoms with mobile phones,
why did you buy a 5.8GHz cordless phone?

Simply didn't occur to me that there could be a problem with it. I
didn't realise the similarities between DECT and mobiles, and had been
using an analogue cordless, although I have had some effect from that,
but only after about an hour or so. I really think the problem has to do
with digital technology and the frequency.

HR

--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Proverb: A short sentence based on long experience'

 

[Rod Speed]

Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

When switching it off, the headache effect and
light headedness diminishes almost immediately.

So it cant be due to the DECT phone.

(There are other effects that I'm reluctant to
mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Yeah, those voices in the head can be a tad of a giveaway.

Rubbish, its just your psychologic condition

In your "well researched" opinion.

Nope. No one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial.

No opinion involved what so ever.

Fact is that WDECT phones operate at much the same frequency as
microwave ovens, and DO emit radiation an inch or two from the brain.

Pity no one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper
double blind trial.

Though I agree, where are the results of the trials that back up
your assertion?

Even a stupid car crashing fuckwit should be able to do better than
that pathetic effort, child.

Why the insult?

No insult, just the facts, child.

So you have nothing to back up the assertion that no one has ever established ANY health effects
with a proper double blind trial?

It isnt an assertion, its a fact, child.

It's a genuine question

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

No surprise that you only ever get to crash cars.

Lets go thru this very very slowly for those who are as thick as a brick.

If any health effect had been established using a proper double blind trial, the
results of that trial would be cited by those who claim that there are health effects.

They dont, so there arent any.

 

[Rod Speed]

lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:

HeadRush wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:12sonaqq0mc0va7@news.supernews.com...

Mr.T wrote:

"Matt2 - Amstereo" <amstereo@ToptusDOTcomDOTau> wrote in message
news:45cb99b2$0$9775$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

1.8 - 1.9 Ghz in both cases, except when a gsm phone is on 900 Mhz

And the fact that WDECT is usually 2.4GHz. But then that would
actually mean *different* in most cases wouldn't it?

And now 5.8 Ghz, which is what mine is.


If you have these concerns and have felt the symptoms with mobile
phones, why did you buy a 5.8GHz cordless phone?


Simply didn't occur to me that there could be a problem with it. I
didn't realise the similarities between DECT and mobiles, and had been
using an analogue cordless, although I have had some effect from that,
but only after about an hour or so.

Nothing like what you said previously.

I really think the problem has to do with digital technology

More fool you. Fools like you made the same stupid claims about AMPS mobile phones.

and the frequency.

Easy to claim.

 

[Frank]

Wow man I love all these conspiracy theories

(1) Jesus did not die on the cross, he drank something to fake his death and
went on to live out his life in India.
(2) The shooting of JF Kennedy was a profession planed killing (maybe FBI)
not a one nutter, one man idea
(3) USA did not put a man on the moon, it was all done at Hollywood.
(4) A plain did not crash into the pentagon on 9/11, it was a truck as the
news first reported it.

 

[Frank]

(x) Oh and China has put a man on Mars, but they have not come clean and
told anybody yet .;-)



Frank <erty@home.com> wrote in message news:45ccd47c@clear.net.nz...
Wow man I love all these conspiracy theories

(1) Jesus did not die on the cross, he drank something to fake his death and
went on to live out his life in India.
(2) The shooting of JF Kennedy was a profession planed killing (maybe FBI)
not a one nutter, one man idea
(3) USA did not put a man on the moon, it was all done at Hollywood.
(4) A plain did not crash into the pentagon on 9/11, it was a truck as the
news first reported it.

 

[swanny]

Frank wrote:

(x) Oh and China has put a man on Mars, but they have not come clean and
told anybody yet .;-)



Frank <erty@home.com> wrote in message news:45ccd47c@clear.net.nz...
Wow man I love all these conspiracy theories

(1) Jesus did not die on the cross, he drank something to fake his death and
went on to live out his life in India.
(2) The shooting of JF Kennedy was a profession planed killing (maybe FBI)
not a one nutter, one man idea
(3) USA did not put a man on the moon, it was all done at Hollywood.
(4) A plain did not crash into the pentagon on 9/11, it was a truck as the
news first reported it.

And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, alien abductions ...
Funny, they almost all seem to be American.

 

[Frank]

Exactly those aliens on a far distant planet talking to each other "were are
you going for your next summer vacation?"
another says "I am going to planet Earth, USA of course, dont go to any
other country they are a waste of money"

And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, alien abductions ...
Funny, they almost all seem to be American.

 

[Clockmeister]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5341puF1r06g7U1@mid.individual.net...

Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

When switching it off, the headache effect and
light headedness diminishes almost immediately.

So it cant be due to the DECT phone.

(There are other effects that I'm reluctant to
mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Yeah, those voices in the head can be a tad of a giveaway.

Rubbish, its just your psychologic condition

In your "well researched" opinion.

Nope. No one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper
double blind trial.

No opinion involved what so ever.

Fact is that WDECT phones operate at much the same frequency as
microwave ovens, and DO emit radiation an inch or two from the brain.

Pity no one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper
double blind trial.

Though I agree, where are the results of the trials that back up
your assertion?

Even a stupid car crashing fuckwit should be able to do better than
that pathetic effort, child.

Why the insult?

No insult, just the facts, child.

You presented no facts.

So you have nothing to back up the assertion that no one has ever
established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial?

It isnt an assertion, its a fact, child.

And the results of the double blind trials are to found where?

It's a genuine question

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

No surprise that you only ever get to crash cars.

Lets go thru this very very slowly for those who are as thick as a brick.

If any health effect had been established using a proper double blind
trial, the
results of that trial would be cited by those who claim that there are
health effects.

The results of that trial would also be cited by those who claim that there
are no health effects.

They dont, so there arent any.

Neither have and until you provide the results of the double blind trial, if
there were any, you have made an assertion and not stated a fact.

 

[Brian]

Are you sure that it wasn't terrorists that killed Anna

"Frank" <erty@home.com> wrote in message news:45cce411@clear.net.nz...

Exactly those aliens on a far distant planet talking to each other "were
are
you going for your next summer vacation?"
another says "I am going to planet Earth, USA of course, dont go to any
other country they are a waste of money"

And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, alien abductions ...
Funny, they almost all seem to be American.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
news:45cc1659$0$9770$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45ca461f$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Yep. The statistics show that smokers die earlier and by a range of
interesting diseases.

Yep, and people smoking 200 years ago didn't know that.

**Of course. They usually died of something else, long before tobacco
related problems affilcted them. That and because the range of problems
caused by tobacco weren't readily appreciated. Constriction of blood
vessels, for instance, was a problem not associated with tobacco, whilst
lung cancer was.

I wonder how many

would NOT have dismissed any risks?

**Quite a few, actually. Doctors were heavy users of tobacco, before tested
showed that the product was dangerous.

Asbestos has been a known carcinogen for at leat 100 years.

Yep, and people were still disputing it 40 years ago.

**Nope. NEVER under dispute. Let me repeat my words:

Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

Note the emphasis. There has been ZERO doubt that asbestos was harmful, for
at least 100 years.


Just like you are

doing now, they claimed there was no proof. At least none they would
accept.
Fortunately James Hardie has now learnt an expensive lesson why that is
not
necessarily the best policy.

**James Hardie has always known of the dangers associated with asbestos.

Despite several trials, there is no proven link between DECT 'phones
and any harmful effects.

Ah, there's the rub, "several trials" do not PROVE a negative. Simply that
no one has conclusively proven the positive, YET.

**Indeed. How many tests do manufacturers need to perform to prove that
their product is safe?

Trials need to be CAREFULLY performed. Anecdotes don't count.

Exactly, they don't prove anything is safe either, just because the
dangers
are not yet understood (if indeed there are any)
A real scientist remains open minded when there is insufficient proof one
way or the other.

**Certainly. I am ready to listen to anyone who has performed a proper
placebo trial with DECT 'phones which show them to be harmful to humans. I
have yet to see any such study.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
news:45ca9c09$0$5747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45c8d094$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Two anecdotal stories do not constitute a properly designed study.

Very true, we had to wait decades for proof of asbestosis etc.

**Wrong. Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

I sure
hope you don't use a cellular 'phone. Their power output can be
considerably
higher than any DECT 'phone.

Obviously you don't realise the significance of the frequencies used in
each
case.

**Wrong. I am aware of the frequencies involved and, more importantly, the
extremely low power levels involved with DECT 'phones.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



--
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[Rod Speed]

Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

When switching it off, the headache effect and
light headedness diminishes almost immediately.

So it cant be due to the DECT phone.

(There are other effects that I'm reluctant to
mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Yeah, those voices in the head can be a tad of a giveaway.

Rubbish, its just your psychologic condition

In your "well researched" opinion.

Nope. No one has ever established ANY health effects with a
proper double blind trial.

No opinion involved what so ever.

Fact is that WDECT phones operate at much the same frequency as
microwave ovens, and DO emit radiation an inch or two from the brain.

Pity no one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial.

Though I agree, where are the results of the trials that back up your assertion?

Even a stupid car crashing fuckwit should be able to do better than that pathetic effort,
child.

Why the insult?

No insult, just the facts, child.

You presented no facts.

Bare faced lie. You have admitted to crashing cars and your posts are the evidence that you are a
fuckwit.

So you have nothing to back up the assertion that no one has ever
established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial?

It isnt an assertion, its a fact, child.

And the results of the double blind trials are to found where?

medline

It's a genuine question

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

No surprise that you only ever get to crash cars.

Lets go thru this very very slowly for those who are as thick as a brick.

If any health effect had been established using a proper double blind trial, the results of that
trial would be cited by those who claim that there are health effects.

The results of that trial would also be cited by those who claim that there are no health effects.

They are indeed.

They dont, so there arent any.

Neither have

Pig ignorant lie, as always from you.

and until you provide the results of the double blind trial, if there were any, you have made an
assertion and not stated a fact.

A fact remains a fact regardless of whether a cite
is provided, you stupid car crashing fuckwit child.

 

[Mr.T]

"HeadRush" <( . )( . )@(_!_).com> wrote in message
news:45cc635e$0$5747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

If you have these concerns and have felt the symptoms with mobile phones,
why did you buy a 5.8GHz cordless phone?

Mine is 2.4GHz which AFAIK (now), is worse than 5.8 anyway. However, like
most here, I didn't believe there was a problem until I bought one myself,
and started experiencing problems directly correlated with my actual usage,
(and only with calls longer than a few minutes).
I never use a mobile phone long enough to have problems, even if they were
the same frequency, and I never have a problem with a normal wired phone, no
matter how long the call. So now I transfer back to a normal handset for
longer calls, but have no idea if I am still doing any long term damage.
Theoretically not of course, but the actual proof is lacking one way or the
other IMO.

Still, I say the same about God, so that places me in the minority there as
well

MrT.

 

[Fun Tyme]

Mr.T wrote:

"HeadRush" <( . )( . )@(_!_).com> wrote in message
news:45cc635e$0$5747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
If you have these concerns and have felt the symptoms with mobile phones,
why did you buy a 5.8GHz cordless phone?

Mine is 2.4GHz which AFAIK (now), is worse than 5.8 anyway. However, like
most here, I didn't believe there was a problem until I bought one myself,
and started experiencing problems directly correlated with my actual usage,
(and only with calls longer than a few minutes).
I never use a mobile phone long enough to have problems, even if they were
the same frequency, and I never have a problem with a normal wired phone, no
matter how long the call. So now I transfer back to a normal handset for
longer calls, but have no idea if I am still doing any long term damage.
Theoretically not of course, but the actual proof is lacking one way or the
other IMO.

Still, I say the same about God, so that places me in the minority there as
well

MrT.



IF the phone heats you up you're going to be toast if you have MRI !

Sure the frequencies involved are much lower, but you 'sensitive'types....

 

[Clockmeister]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:534uh4F1qni36U1@mid.individual.net...

Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

When switching it off, the headache effect and
light headedness diminishes almost immediately.

So it cant be due to the DECT phone.

(There are other effects that I'm reluctant to
mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Yeah, those voices in the head can be a tad of a giveaway.

Rubbish, its just your psychologic condition

In your "well researched" opinion.

Nope. No one has ever established ANY health effects with a
proper double blind trial.

No opinion involved what so ever.

Fact is that WDECT phones operate at much the same frequency as
microwave ovens, and DO emit radiation an inch or two from the
brain.

Pity no one has ever established ANY health effects with a proper
double blind trial.

Though I agree, where are the results of the trials that back up your
assertion?

Even a stupid car crashing fuckwit should be able to do better than
that pathetic effort, child.

Why the insult?

No insult, just the facts, child.

You presented no facts.

Bare faced lie. You have admitted to crashing cars and your posts are the
evidence that you are a fuckwit.

Cite?

So you have nothing to back up the assertion that no one has ever
established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial?

It isnt an assertion, its a fact, child.

And the results of the double blind trials are to found where?

medline

You will have to do better then that.

It's a genuine question

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

No surprise that you only ever get to crash cars.

Lets go thru this very very slowly for those who are as thick as a
brick.

If any health effect had been established using a proper double blind
trial, the results of that trial would be cited by those who claim that
there are health effects.

The results of that trial would also be cited by those who claim that
there are no health effects.

They are indeed.

They dont, so there arent any.

Neither have

Pig ignorant lie, as always from you.

Cite?

and until you provide the results of the double blind trial, if there
were any, you have made an assertion and not stated a fact.

A fact remains a fact regardless of whether a cite
is provided, you stupid car crashing fuckwit child.

Not without a body of evidence to support your assertion is isn't.

Your "facts" are mere unsubstantiated assertions unless you provide the hard
evidence to support them.

You get to like that or lump it.

 

[Bob Parker]

On 10/02/2007 17:31 Deuteronomy 28:53 wrote:

http://expoearnie.blogspot.com/ - Find out what the IRS and TSA know about Pete Maravich's letter bomb.

It must be a full moon. My message filters are working overtime
deleting all the rubbish appearing on this newsgroup.

 

[Frank]

to be truthful I could not give too shits how she died. too marry someone
about 70 years older than herself she must of been a real tramp waiting for
him to croak it


Brian <bdanger@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:45cd33fd$1@clear.net.nz...
Are you sure that it wasn't terrorists that killed Anna

"Frank" <erty@home.com> wrote in message news:45cce411@clear.net.nz...

Exactly those aliens on a far distant planet talking to each other "were
are
you going for your next summer vacation?"
another says "I am going to planet Earth, USA of course, dont go to any
other country they are a waste of money"

And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis, alien abductions ...
Funny, they almost all seem to be American.

 

[Rod Speed]

Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

When switching it off, the headache effect and
light headedness diminishes almost immediately.

So it cant be due to the DECT phone.

(There are other effects that I'm reluctant to
mention for fear of being considered crazy!)

Yeah, those voices in the head can be a tad of a giveaway.

Rubbish, its just your psychologic condition

In your "well researched" opinion.

Nope. No one has ever established ANY health effects with a
proper double blind trial.

No opinion involved what so ever.

Fact is that WDECT phones operate at much the same frequency as microwave ovens, and DO
emit radiation an inch or two from the brain.

Pity no one has ever established ANY health effects with a
proper double blind trial.

Though I agree, where are the results of the trials that back
up your assertion?

Even a stupid car crashing fuckwit should be able to do better
than that pathetic effort, child.

Why the insult?

No insult, just the facts, child.

You presented no facts.

Bare faced lie. You have admitted to crashing cars and your posts
are the evidence that you are a fuckwit.

Cite?

Your post in this thread will do fine.

So you have nothing to back up the assertion that no one has ever
established ANY health effects with a proper double blind trial?

It isnt an assertion, its a fact, child.

And the results of the double blind trials are to found where?

medline

You will have to do better then that.

Pathetic, really.

It's a genuine question

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

No surprise that you only ever get to crash cars.

Lets go thru this very very slowly for those who are as thick as a brick.

If any health effect had been established using a proper double
blind trial, the results of that trial would be cited by those who
claim that there are health effects.

The results of that trial would also be cited by those who claim
that there are no health effects.

They are indeed.

They dont, so there arent any.

Neither have

Pig ignorant lie, as always from you.

Cite?

Even you shudl be able to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

and until you provide the results of the double blind trial, if there were any, you have made an
assertion and not stated a fact.

A fact remains a fact regardless of whether a cite
is provided, you stupid car crashing fuckwit child.

Not without a body of evidence to support your assertion is isn't.

Even you shudl be able to do better than that pathetic effort, child.

Your "facts" are mere unsubstantiated assertions unless you provide the hard evidence to support
them.

A fact remains a fact regardless of whether a cite
is provided, you stupid car crashing fuckwit child.

 

[Don McKenzie]

Frank wrote:

(x) Oh and China has put a man on Mars, but they have not come clean and
told anybody yet .;-)

Sorry Frank, that was Rabbits, not a man!

Don...


--
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E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html

Crystal clear, super bright OLED LCD (128x128) for your microcontroller.
Simple serial RX/TX interface. Many memory sizes.
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No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com

 

[Frank]

great now when we go to Mars we will get the bird flu


Don McKenzie <look@mysig.com> wrote in message
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Frank wrote:

(x) Oh and China has put a man on Mars, but they have not come clean and
told anybody yet .;-)

Sorry Frank, that was Rabbits, not a man!

Don...


--
Don McKenzie
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/e-mail.html

Crystal clear, super bright OLED LCD (128x128) for your microcontroller.
Simple serial RX/TX interface. Many memory sizes.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16460

No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com