PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

Some gutless car crashing fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote just the puerile
shit thats all it can ever manage.
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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**Yep. The statistics show that smokers die earlier and by a range of
interesting diseases.

Yep, and people smoking 200 years ago didn't know that.

**Of course. They usually died of something else, long before tobacco
related problems affilcted them. That and because the range of problems
caused by tobacco weren't readily appreciated.
Exactly!

I wonder how many would NOT have dismissed any risks?

**Quite a few, actually. Doctors were heavy users of tobacco, before
tested
showed that the product was dangerous.
Exactly! You don't see any parallels here?

Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

Note the emphasis. There has been ZERO doubt that asbestos was harmful,
for
at least 100 years.
In fact most people didn't know unfortunately, but asbestos has been used
for far more than 100 years in any case.

Just like you are
doing now, they claimed there was no proof. At least none they would
accept.
Fortunately James Hardie has now learnt an expensive lesson why that is
not
necessarily the best policy.

**James Hardie has always known of the dangers associated with asbestos.
But not the users, which is the important part.

**Indeed. How many tests do manufacturers need to perform to prove that
their product is safe?
You can't unfortunately, despite your claims. Only time can tell the
limitations (or not) of current test procedures.

**Certainly. I am ready to listen to anyone who has performed a proper
placebo trial with DECT 'phones which show them to be harmful to humans. I
have yet to see any such study.
By that logic, simply not performing any studies makes everything safe. Yes
that is standard corporate/government policy.
If only it were really so! :)

MrT.
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45cd3660$0$16393$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Wrong. Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.
I didn't know 40 years ago, and I don't believe many other users did either.
Even more so all the users OVER 100 years ago.
And there's the problem, people like you believe they know everything there
is to know, pity real science often takes time to catch up.

MrT.
 
Mr.T wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45cd3603$0$16299$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...

Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

Note the emphasis. There has been ZERO doubt that asbestos was harmful,
for at least 100 years.

In fact most people didn't know unfortunately, but asbestos has been used
for far more than 100 years in any case.

Just like you are

doing now, they claimed there was no proof. At least none they would
accept.
Fortunately James Hardie has now learnt an expensive lesson why that is
not
necessarily the best policy.

**James Hardie has always known of the dangers associated with asbestos.


But not the users, which is the important part.
To suggest that the general public at large knew of the dangers of
asbestos is ridiculous. It was widely used in the building industry,
until the 1970's I think, and any health risks were strongly denied by
the asbestos companies until the evidence eventually became overwhelming
and undeniable.


--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Hit any user to continue'
 
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:
Mr.T wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45cd3603$0$16299$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...

Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

Note the emphasis. There has been ZERO doubt that asbestos was
harmful, for at least 100 years.

In fact most people didn't know unfortunately, but asbestos has been
used for far more than 100 years in any case.

Just like you are

doing now, they claimed there was no proof. At least none they
would accept.
Fortunately James Hardie has now learnt an expensive lesson why
that is not
necessarily the best policy.

**James Hardie has always known of the dangers associated with
asbestos.

But not the users, which is the important part.

To suggest that the general public at large knew of the dangers of asbestos is ridiculous.
Irrelevant to whether those manufacturing asbestos products clearly did.

It was widely used in the building industry, until the 1970's I think, and any health risks were
strongly denied by the asbestos companies until the evidence eventually became overwhelming and
undeniable.
Not as far as health problems for those involved in the manufacture it wasnt.
 
"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:12sta8lbs0l3t6f@news.supernews.com...
John Fields wrote:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:56:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

So you believe that in the absence of rigorous scientific evidence
to the contrary, your opinion should be considered "The Truth" even
though you have no rigorous scientific evidence to support your stance?

Yep, when its something as commonly used as mobile phones, it needs
rigorous scientific evidence to substantiate the claim of any health
effect.
PARTICULARLY when its so completely trivial to do a proper double
blind trial on the stuff like headaches and lightheadedness etc.

---
While I agree with your position that a double blind test could
clear up whether the effects of RF are capable of being detected by
_some_ individuals in terms of whatever their particular symptoms
seem to be, I disagree with your seemingly cavalier attitude that
until evidence is produced to counter the proposition that exposure
to RF at close range isn't safe, caution should be thrown to the
winds.

In the absence of rigorous scientific evidence to the contrary, both
sides of the argument are suspect.

The problem I see with your position is that it doesn't err on the
side of caution and doesn't recognize that the effects of exposure
to near-field RF may be pronounced in some individuals and
unrecognizable in others, with or without a double blind test.


Thanks for your input. This from
http://www.arpansa.gov.au/pubs/rfstand/rf_std_fct.pdf ...
"The Standard incorporates a 'precautionary approach' which requires
owners of RF sources to minimise unnecessary exposure of the public to RF
fields. Australian regulators and codes of practice will decide how this
statement is applied."

and...

"Significant safety factors are incorporated into the exposure limits-
that is, the limits are set well below the level at which all known
adverse health effects occur."

Note.. "KNOWN adverse health effects". The ARPANSA at least doesn't have
doubts about health risks from RF exposure.

http://www.arpansa.gov.au
Lynx, you should immediately stop driving or travelling in a car if you're
that concerned about your health. There is a much, much greater chance of
you dying in a car accident than from RF exposure.

HR
 
"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:12stdg5dj87gd0c@news.supernews.com...

DECT uses a FIXED power data pulses of 0.25W ALL OF THE TIME. It has a
1:24 duty-cycle and so the average power is only 0.01W
Now factor in the inverse square law
(http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/isq.html#c4) and you'll
find the amount of RF, IF ANY, that actually gets to any brain cells is
probably lower that the ambient RF pulses occurring in nature. My god, what
happens to our brain cells when lightning strikes near by??

I think you're getting into tin foil hat territory now.

HR
 
"HeadRush" <( . )( . )@(_!_).com> wrote in message
news:45ced6b1$0$5743$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Lynx, you should immediately stop driving or travelling in a car if you're
that concerned about your health. There is a much, much greater chance of
you dying in a car accident than from RF exposure.
Of course there is, so you can ignore everything else in life and go on
smoking, taking drugs, and anything else you want.
The rest of us can make our own decisions right?

MrT.
 
HeadRush wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:12sta8lbs0l3t6f@news.supernews.com...

John Fields wrote:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:56:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

So you believe that in the absence of rigorous scientific evidence
to the contrary, your opinion should be considered "The Truth" even
though you have no rigorous scientific evidence to support your stance?

Yep, when its something as commonly used as mobile phones, it needs
rigorous scientific evidence to substantiate the claim of any health
effect.
PARTICULARLY when its so completely trivial to do a proper double
blind trial on the stuff like headaches and lightheadedness etc.

---
While I agree with your position that a double blind test could
clear up whether the effects of RF are capable of being detected by
_some_ individuals in terms of whatever their particular symptoms
seem to be, I disagree with your seemingly cavalier attitude that
until evidence is produced to counter the proposition that exposure
to RF at close range isn't safe, caution should be thrown to the
winds.

In the absence of rigorous scientific evidence to the contrary, both
sides of the argument are suspect.

The problem I see with your position is that it doesn't err on the
side of caution and doesn't recognize that the effects of exposure
to near-field RF may be pronounced in some individuals and
unrecognizable in others, with or without a double blind test.


Thanks for your input. This from
http://www.arpansa.gov.au/pubs/rfstand/rf_std_fct.pdf ...
"The Standard incorporates a 'precautionary approach' which requires
owners of RF sources to minimise unnecessary exposure of the public to RF
fields. Australian regulators and codes of practice will decide how this
statement is applied."

and...

"Significant safety factors are incorporated into the exposure limits-
that is, the limits are set well below the level at which all known
adverse health effects occur."

Note.. "KNOWN adverse health effects". The ARPANSA at least doesn't have
doubts about health risks from RF exposure.

http://www.arpansa.gov.au


Lynx, you should immediately stop driving or travelling in a car if you're
that concerned about your health. There is a much, much greater chance of
you dying in a car accident than from RF exposure.
I need to travel. I don't need to have a cordless phone, except for
convenience.


--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?'
 
lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote:
HeadRush wrote:

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:12sta8lbs0l3t6f@news.supernews.com...

John Fields wrote:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:56:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

So you believe that in the absence of rigorous scientific
evidence to the contrary, your opinion should be considered "The Truth"
even though you have no rigorous scientific evidence to support
your stance?
Yep, when its something as commonly used as mobile phones, it
needs rigorous scientific evidence to substantiate the claim of
any health effect.
PARTICULARLY when its so completely trivial to do a proper double
blind trial on the stuff like headaches and lightheadedness etc.

---
While I agree with your position that a double blind test could
clear up whether the effects of RF are capable of being detected by
_some_ individuals in terms of whatever their particular symptoms
seem to be, I disagree with your seemingly cavalier attitude that
until evidence is produced to counter the proposition that exposure
to RF at close range isn't safe, caution should be thrown to the
winds.

In the absence of rigorous scientific evidence to the contrary,
both sides of the argument are suspect.

The problem I see with your position is that it doesn't err on the
side of caution and doesn't recognize that the effects of exposure
to near-field RF may be pronounced in some individuals and
unrecognizable in others, with or without a double blind test.


Thanks for your input. This from
http://www.arpansa.gov.au/pubs/rfstand/rf_std_fct.pdf ...
"The Standard incorporates a 'precautionary approach' which
requires owners of RF sources to minimise unnecessary exposure of
the public to RF fields. Australian regulators and codes of
practice will decide how this statement is applied."

and...

"Significant safety factors are incorporated into the exposure
limits- that is, the limits are set well below the level at which
all known adverse health effects occur."

Note.. "KNOWN adverse health effects". The ARPANSA at least doesn't
have doubts about health risks from RF exposure.

http://www.arpansa.gov.au


Lynx, you should immediately stop driving or travelling in a car if
you're that concerned about your health. There is a much, much
greater chance of you dying in a car accident than from RF exposure.


I need to travel. I don't need to have a cordless phone, except for
convenience.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use one, fuckwit child.
 
"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
news:45ce81c6$0$5746$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45cd3660$0$16393$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Wrong. Asbestos has been a KNOWN carcinogen for at least 100 years.

I didn't know 40 years ago, and I don't believe many other users did
either.
**Irrelevant. It was known by insurers. Those guys know what kills people
(they've been hitting smokers for higher premiums for years). If they knew,
then so did James Hardie.

Even more so all the users OVER 100 years ago.
**I said "At least 100 years"

And there's the problem, people like you believe they know everything
there
is to know, pity real science often takes time to catch up.
**Wrong. Science has KNOWN about the problems associated with asbestos for
at least 100 years. Not me (I ain't that old). Science. And insurance
companies. And James Hardie. And a whole bunch of others.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
 
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:34:34 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Wrong. Science has KNOWN about the problems associated with asbestos for
at least 100 years. Not me (I ain't that old). Science. And insurance
companies. And James Hardie. And a whole bunch of others.

In the 60s, I was in the CES (Fed employment agency) in Brisbane.
Used to recruit for two James Hardie factories. Eagle Farm and
Fortitude Valley.
They would not accept anyone who had worked in the mining industry.
Story was that they didn't want to get blamed for pre-existing
disabilities.

In retrospect, seems they knew something they didn't tell us.


Hey! In the 60s, there was no such thing as "the environment".


-----------------------------
Subvert the Dominant paradigm.
Turn your TV off
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d23e7e$0$16325$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Wrong. Science has KNOWN about the problems associated with asbestos for
at least 100 years. Not me (I ain't that old). Science. And insurance
companies. And James Hardie. And a whole bunch of others.
Which helps those who died of asbestosis and related diseases because of
their ignorance, how exactly?
You however keep telling us you are ignorant of any studies proving any
causal link to health by W/DECT phones. I bet no one cries if you fall
victim of your own ignorance either.

MrT.
 
Dear Jean & Paul,

Hope you are having a fine time in sunny France as I am in sunny
Australia.

I see that you are a little depressed, but still a caring person
nonetheless about - apparently - a whole nation suffering from
Alzheimer's disease and a sick dog named 'Sunny'?
Sadly I think 'Sunny' (although a sick dog) went out in the midday sun
with some deranged UK guy and didn't survive. I may be wrong though as
my memory is failing badly.

May I suggest you get a companion to help with your depression?
If you have trouble finding one, maybe consider a 'latex' alternative
as I hear you guy's have a great talent at blowing things up.

Although you talk about your mining pioneering, I keep searching but
cannot find any references to electronics in your postings, unless of
course your mining interests extend to tantalum.

So, in advice to your obviously depressed self. Please stay offshore,
try to stay out of electronics discussions, and most importantly,
please try to stay out of the sun.

Anyway, cheers - from the land of bastards...
 
"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
news:45d28ffc$0$16556$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d23e7e$0$16325$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
**Wrong. Science has KNOWN about the problems associated with asbestos
for
at least 100 years. Not me (I ain't that old). Science. And insurance
companies. And James Hardie. And a whole bunch of others.

Which helps those who died of asbestosis and related diseases because of
their ignorance, how exactly?
**It seals the guilt of James Hardie.

You however keep telling us you are ignorant of any studies proving any
causal link to health by W/DECT phones.
**That is not what I said. Read it again.

I bet no one cries if you fall
victim of your own ignorance either.
**Of course.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
 
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5307bkF1qdr5uU1@mid.individual.net...
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote

No, it's likely people believing things that are
not based on any evidence what so ever.

Yes, just like asbestos, everything is safe until proven otherwise?

Nope, its obvious that swan dives off tall buildings without
a parachute will produce significant health problems.

Shame about the people who die in the meantime I guess.

Just as long as its fools like you.

Brain tumours do seem to be on the increase though,

Pig ignorant lie.

we just don't have a *proven* cause yet.

Dont need a cause when there has been no increase.
Evidence?
 
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote

No, it's likely people believing things that are
not based on any evidence what so ever.

Yes, just like asbestos, everything is safe until proven otherwise?

Nope, its obvious that swan dives off tall buildings without
a parachute will produce significant health problems.

Shame about the people who die in the meantime I guess.

Just as long as its fools like you.

Brain tumours do seem to be on the increase though,

Pig ignorant lie.

we just don't have a *proven* cause yet.

Dont need a cause when there has been no increase.

Evidence?
Those claiming that there has been an increase need to provide the evidence, child.

Thats how it works.
 
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:53i8d7F1shmqfU1@mid.individual.net...
Clockmeister <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote
PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote

No, it's likely people believing things that are
not based on any evidence what so ever.

Yes, just like asbestos, everything is safe until proven otherwise?

Nope, its obvious that swan dives off tall buildings without
a parachute will produce significant health problems.

Shame about the people who die in the meantime I guess.

Just as long as its fools like you.

Brain tumours do seem to be on the increase though,

Pig ignorant lie.

we just don't have a *proven* cause yet.

Dont need a cause when there has been no increase.

Evidence?

Those claiming that there has been an increase need to provide the
evidence, child.
Type "increase brain tumours" into Google, stupid.

Thats how it works.
There is plenty of evidence that brain tumours are on the increase.

What hasn't been established is what is causing it.

Now where is your evidence to the contrary, dumbarse?
 
what is this shit? is it NPN or PNP, it sure has been amplified, Common
emitter circuit, Class D, you really kneed to recalculate those resistors
and try better next time.






Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pioneer@neuf.fr> wrote in message
news:1171531941.324062.118410@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
To an American friend
*************************

Sir,

I am flabbergasted of learning of Americans ' predicament... as
spiritual Heir to Lafayette as all Frenchmen worth their salt, I am
committed to help my American friends !!! ... and it breaks my heart
to realise in what evident bad pass you are now !
..
What can be or should be done ?

One of the understandings derived from the True Geology is a practical
application to immediately curb the strength of cyclones & tornadoes.
With tornadoes by ex. the result is instantaneous, since it proceeds
from a True comprehension of the phenomena.

Would that help ?

At this point in time all those worthless Universilities research must
be replaced by people of superior intelligence who obtain results !

Enough of those Parasites & other Vermines of Geology, Archaeology,
Palaeontology and globally Earth History who are only able to see
things by the little end of the lunette !
Enough of that mutant & devolutive Humanity feeding like calves on the
milk of cows, on the bleeding flesh of innocent animals and hence
obtaining as result the deviancy produced by the action of animals
hormones on the Human Genome .... Indeed the Genetic Code and this my
discovery how it applies to all the 3 Semite JIC ( Judeo-Islamo-
Christian ) is easily tempered with through the medium of the
Endocrinal Interface ! The youngest the child the more easily the
deviance is induced and the 3 WELL KNOWN TEMPERING ( although of
course not discovered by all those Universilities Medical Imbeciles )
are the Circumcision on the 1st day of the 1st puberty ( duration 21
days ) or 8th exactly after birth and practiced by the Jews, the
circumcision of the 2nd puberty or approx 7th year and practiced by
the Arabs and turning such in dull, stupid & terrorist Islamists, and
last but not least the mutation recommended by the clueless
Christians sects leaders & fools counselling the use of blood, milk, &
roughly speaking all scavenger & carrion feeding food to bring up
their children to the 3rd puberty !

THE RESULT, HUMANITY IS NOW COMPLETELY ALIEN TO HIS OWN ENVIRONMENT !

Please do not take lightly of that immense knowledge which I have
imparted to you in a few words ! It is my greatest achievement in life
indeed and I have paid the price to discover this after a whole life
of research and fasting 40 days on water in the Australian bush ! Such
knowledge debugs indeed 6 000 years of genetic manipulation on the
Humanity initiated by High Egyptian Priest Moshe ... a definitive
renegade to his Oaths of service to the Higher Knowledge & Ancient
Science entrusted to such traitor in the Egyptians Temples. Such
knowledge is far greater than the Discovery of the True Geology and of
its corner stone that is the UPL or Universal Pressure Law... it is
far greater than all my Great Sandy Desert & other places 22 mining
discoveries (and re-discovery in one case) ... and far greater indeed
that my finding of cure of brain tumour & all cancers in less than 5
days ( as well of course as AIDS)

Please that very precious to you and remember the main point of it all
& the apex of such induced mutation of Humanity by Circumcisions ( Jew
& Islamists ) & hog feeding ( Chirsitans) sects is contained in ONE
WORD ONLY WHICH HORMONE !
- Hormones acts indirectly upon the Human Genetic Code through the
Endocrinal system
- Jews circumcision aims is to destroy the Interstitial or genital
intern through the haemorrhage produced in the baby and boost therein
all other endocrines ... especially thyroid the gland of memory &
hypophysis the gland of speculative, analytical narrow mindedness
pursuit
- Islamists circumcisions on the other hand is a pale monkey like
adaptation of the first puberty circumcision of the Jews, to which
that fine Arabs people were completely mislead by Jew Prophet
Mohammad ( kicked out of the Synagogue in facts and from the drugs
inducing prophets schools ( through Amanita Muscaria mainly )) It is a
painful mutation towards permanent erection and all matters related to
sex in that poor sects + of course the derisive & crude directions
given as the 5 pillars of Islam

The direct result not anticipated by the circumcision manipulators
though was the near destruction of the Pineal in Jews & Islamists and
the Hyper activity of the Thyroid in Jews giving such mutant their
hyper-ophthalmic-goitre or popping-eyes syndrome well noted trait of
such poor people... with as well the Hyper activity of the thyroid in
pregnant mothers, producing by consequence the hypo & in fact atrophy
of the Thyroid in conceived baby leading to that conditions known as
Dow Syndrome .... Dow syndrome children have in all cases a completely
atrophied Thyroid indeed ( a thing the DI or disease industry does not
know not cares about indeed ) and parting are very easily cured when
proper measures are taken in time !

Note _1_
Incidentally Negroes mutilate both male and females children and as
for the Chinese, Mao Ze Dong forbade in 1949 under pain of death the
excision of little girls .... 20 years later China bounces ahead to
take a place of leader amongst the Earth Nations !!!

Note _2_ The Kosher system in in fact the Law of Racial Purity and
completing indeed the 8th day circumcision ... the key word in it 12
major steps is the COMPLETE ELIMINATION OF HORMONES especially from
the diet of the growing child ... ( an element of which as said before
the Islamists and particularly the Christians ( preests &
meaneesters ) are so painfully un-aware. The famous Temple of
Jerusalem and its aim indeed is a scale 1 demonstration of what the
Kosher should be and the stern warning to primitive populations ( as
this is still the case now ) to carry on under of pain of death, the
endlong pursuit generations after generations towards maintaining the
Chosen Race integrity ... and drift or deviance from such discipline
leading such minor but well discipline Ethnie to fall prey to its
enemies Read again the Bible, the Torah & Pentateuch in this light
and you will have then the Real Key to the Bible and will understand
the reasons for all the massacres & holocaust in it ! The mere notion
of god was further invented by the Rabbis to add divine authority to
their iron discipline.... Hence when you know the full story the zest
of it I have imparted to you, all the History of Mankind since 6000
years makes sense ... of course as a True Geologist I could as well
teach you other things ... but this might be for another time !

I hope you will not lose that most precious knowledge, and impart it
to many seeking or wondering minds. The 6 000 years old manipulation
as well as the 2 000 years as well as the 1 400 years old manipulation
must cease since it is conducting

With best regards


Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Mobile +33 650 171 464

Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
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