PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Ian Field]

"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:0PcYr.1212030$1o5.820328@fx03.am4...

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:a93b4gF8hjU1@mid.individual.net...

anderson.k.jonathan@gmail.com

Ian Byers wrote:

I need spec's on NPN C1815 and PNP A1015 so they can be replaced
with some garden variety NPN & PNP Transistors. Alternatively
equivalent's to these transistors would help.

** BC547s and BC557s would be very close - but watch out the leads are
in a different order.


Unfortunately I've tidied up an now can't find my equivalents book, but
I've a suspicion that the 2SC1818/2SA1015 are slightly higher rated than
the BC547/BC557, but not by much.

Try them - if they run a bit warm, I'd suggest picking an E-line ZTXxxx
part from the Zetex range.

Just in case it interests anyone, my books turned up - out of the
equivalents listed, the most common comp' pair is BC182/212.

 

[Government Shill #2]

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:30:16 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
<grahamcooper7@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 23, 1:20 am, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
In article <71br5812adk7ugrs264kh42vl7j37t7...@4ax.com>,
gov.sh...@gmail.com says...


On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back!  I for one was concerned that you'd been put in jail, or
an institution.  Are you going to entertain us with stories and videos of
what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Sure do!

You're funnier than television.

In a crazy deluded kind of way.

That's putting it mildly.



Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

Hmm... not very impressive. What are we supposed to be seeing?

I have no idea what that thing is supposed to be. Seems like a really
shitty plug set up for $500, let alone $5000. It would worry me if it's
pulling any major current. I have some not very expensive speaker cables
that have much better locking plugs on them. Just turn a little knob and
they aint coming out unless you want them to.

Yep that was the connection that came with the 1000W Inverter.

That's why I drew the schematic to show ZERO SURFACE AREA of metal to
metal contact.

This is the after pic, I only left it up for the day.

http://pro1og.com/POPCORN.jpg






+ Solar Panels $,$$$

http://www.pro1og.com

Little drive to Victoria to test out the 60m deep mine... didn't work.

Oh? Where?

What didn't work. I'm confused.

Block the Satellite LASER2SONIC mindreading/mindspeaking








The TANK pic I had fish that morning so had a reaction.

Is this sentence supposed to make sense?

If it did, I would be very worried about you. It's always a puzzle for
sane folks when they read a loon's ravings.





My face was puffy in the Tank photo.

??????????

Your face isn't in the Tank photo.

http://www.pro1og.com/Tank2.jpg

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman

 

[Graham Cooper]

On Sep 23, 1:20 am, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:

In article <71br5812adk7ugrs264kh42vl7j37t7...@4ax.com>,
gov.sh...@gmail.com says...


On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back!  I for one was concerned that you'd been put in jail, or
an institution.  Are you going to entertain us with stories and videos of
what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Sure do!

You're funnier than television.

In a crazy deluded kind of way.

That's putting it mildly.



Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

Hmm... not very impressive. What are we supposed to be seeing?

I have no idea what that thing is supposed to be. Seems like a really
shitty plug set up for $500, let alone $5000. It would worry me if it's
pulling any major current. I have some not very expensive speaker cables
that have much better locking plugs on them. Just turn a little knob and
they aint coming out unless you want them to.

Yep that was the connection that came with the 1000W Inverter.

That's why I drew the schematic to show ZERO SURFACE AREA of metal to
metal contact.

This is the after pic, I only left it up for the day.

http://pro1og.com/POPCORN.jpg

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

http://www.pro1og.com

Little drive to Victoria to test out the 60m deep mine... didn't work.

Oh? Where?

What didn't work. I'm confused.

Block the Satellite LASER2SONIC mindreading/mindspeaking

The TANK pic I had fish that morning so had a reaction.

Is this sentence supposed to make sense?

If it did, I would be very worried about you. It's always a puzzle for
sane folks when they read a loon's ravings.

My face was puffy in the Tank photo.

Herc

 

[Graham Cooper]

On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:

"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...









Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700 (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

 

[BDK]

In article <a08c128e-b1dd-427b-8b6e-40b2aaca9534
@t2g2000pbt.googlegroups.com>, grahamcooper7@gmail.com says...

On Sep 23, 1:20 am, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
In article <71br5812adk7ugrs264kh42vl7j37t7...@4ax.com>,
gov.sh...@gmail.com says...


On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back!  I for one was concerned that you'd been put in jail, or
an institution.  Are you going to entertain us with stories and videos of
what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
 theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Sure do!

You're funnier than television.

In a crazy deluded kind of way.

That's putting it mildly.



Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

Hmm... not very impressive. What are we supposed to be seeing?

I have no idea what that thing is supposed to be. Seems like a really
shitty plug set up for $500, let alone $5000. It would worry me if it's
pulling any major current. I have some not very expensive speaker cables
that have much better locking plugs on them. Just turn a little knob and
they aint coming out unless you want them to.

Yep that was the connection that came with the 1000W Inverter.

That's why I drew the schematic to show ZERO SURFACE AREA of metal to
metal contact.

This is the after pic, I only left it up for the day.

http://pro1og.com/POPCORN.jpg

Why don't you have any power Herc???

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

http://www.pro1og.com

Little drive to Victoria to test out the 60m deep mine... didn't work.

Oh? Where?

What didn't work. I'm confused.

Block the Satellite LASER2SONIC mindreading/mindspeaking

Oh, of course.

The TANK pic I had fish that morning so had a reaction.

Is this sentence supposed to make sense?

If it did, I would be very worried about you. It's always a puzzle for
sane folks when they read a loon's ravings.





My face was puffy in the Tank photo.

Herc

WTF????


--
BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster. Friend to all kOOkbashers.

 

[Brad]

On Sep 23, 4:35 pm, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:









"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700  (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

A bread maker is far less than 500W x 3 hours. For the first 2 hours
they are only mixing, kneading and waiting. More like 20W for those
two. The baking cycle in the last hour draws the most power.

 

[Graham Cooper]

On Sep 24, 12:38 pm, Brad <bradvk...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 23, 4:35 pm, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:

"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700  (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

A bread maker is far less than 500W x 3 hours. For the first 2 hours
they are only mixing, kneading and waiting. More like 20W for those
two. The baking cycle in the last hour draws the most power.

OK, Good Guys has a few I'll get the $90 cheapie Kambrook, the less
features the better and check out the power requirements of the
others.

Still can't find a continuous power level microwave...?

Herc

 

[BruceS]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:10:40 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

On Sep 24, 12:38 pm, Brad <bradvk...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 4:35 pm, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:

"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with
stories and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2 --
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for
"supply"(billing) before you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an
off grid system is not that silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get
connected to the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage
costs) Now that would buy a lot of solar panels, inverters and
batteries IMO!!!

I've read about situations like that in the U.S. as well, but only when
the home is well away from existing infrastructure. Past a certain
distance (1/4 mile?), the utility will charge by the foot to run service
lines. Get too much farther, and the hookup charge will pay for an off-
the-grid setup. That's when solar & wind start making good sense. I
think the "billing charge" portion of the bill here is nominal. Once
you're connected, nearly all the cost is for usage. $400/yr just to stay
connected seems outrageous.

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you
need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the
Amorphous Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700  (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800 200W panels $600 20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get
by on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

A bread maker is far less than 500W x 3 hours. For the first 2 hours
they are only mixing, kneading and waiting. More like 20W for those
two. The baking cycle in the last hour draws the most power.


OK, Good Guys has a few I'll get the $90 cheapie Kambrook, the less
features the better and check out the power requirements of the others.

Still can't find a continuous power level microwave...?

Why even bother with a bread maker? Making the bread by hand isn't
really that tough, just mixing the ingredients, kneeding, etc. It's
helpful to have a small power mixer to mix the ingredients, but that's a
good general-purpose tool. The only other thing you need power for is to
cook the bread, and for that you use a general-purpose oven. To me,
those bread makers are impractical gadgets.
If you really want to be independent, you may even be able to find an old
wood-fired range (not a "wood stove" that's just a heater) and do all
your cooking with wood. They're not the most convenient, taking a while
to heat up or change temperature, but if you have a supply of wood
nearby, they do the off-the-grid bit very well. Just be sure to clean
and adjust it properly before use, and to vent it adequately.

 

[rickman]

On 8/10/2012 6:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:


Apple 1 original $75K


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=160810171525&nma=true&rt=nc&si=dvqofCNLX4lPgItmd0XSxR9XUaQ%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

C4040 ES INTEL CPU RARE $800K


http://www.ebay.com/itm/C4040-ES-INTEL-CPU-RARE-/190404561375?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item2c54ff09df

Geez! Shouldn't have thrown out all that old crap years ago!
I had an 8008 CPU, and probably some other vintage stuff. Hmmm,
wait, I think I still HAVE an 8008 and matching EPROMS, etc.
in an old prototype I made.

Jon

I've got some 8008 CPU chips somewhere along with a MARK something
computer sold as a kit I finished putting together. A professor gave it
to me when a grad student couldn't make it work. Seems there were a
number of errors in the design that I had to fix. I modified it to work
with an RS232 terminal rather than the 110 baud current loop for
teletype it came with. That likely wipes out any "collectable" value
for it...

I guess I could part it out, how much are 1702A EPROMs going for?

Rick

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 23/09/2012 4:35 PM, Graham Cooper wrote:

On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...









Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.


A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700 (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Sylvia.

 

[Fred Nurk]

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:24:23 +1000, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Herc is a permanent walking hazard.....

 

[Graham Cooper]

On Sep 30, 5:24 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 23/09/2012 4:35 PM, Graham Cooper wrote:\


On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700  (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Sylvia.

I split the 200AMP cable into 8, and the 2 150AMP cables into 4 each.

|
////
== \\\\
|


then I could get them hot enough to take solder.

It should be capable of about 300AMP-400AMP and only runs 100AMP max,
will get it down to 50AMP if I can find a variable power microwave.

It doesn't even get warm running the microwave, but since I had to do
the cables myself I made the loss as small as possible.

problem is it takes 600mA just sitting there... about 3 of my 30
solar panels just for standby.

Herc

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 1/10/2012 10:15 AM, Graham Cooper wrote:

On Sep 30, 5:24 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 23/09/2012 4:35 PM, Graham Cooper wrote:\


On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700 (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Sylvia.


I split the 200AMP cable into 8, and the 2 150AMP cables into 4 each.

|
////
===
\\\\
|


then I could get them hot enough to take solder.

So they're soldered. OK.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 1/10/2012 10:15 AM, Graham Cooper wrote:

On Sep 30, 5:24 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 23/09/2012 4:35 PM, Graham Cooper wrote:\


On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need.
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700 (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Sylvia.


I split the 200AMP cable into 8, and the 2 150AMP cables into 4 each.

|
////
===
\\\\
|


then I could get them hot enough to take solder.

It should be capable of about 300AMP-400AMP and only runs 100AMP max,
will get it down to 50AMP if I can find a variable power microwave.

It doesn't even get warm running the microwave, but since I had to do
the cables myself I made the loss as small as possible.

problem is it takes 600mA just sitting there... about 3 of my 30
solar panels just for standby.

Herc

12V * 600mA = 7.2 watts. Do your panels really deliver a total of 72W?

sylvia.

 

[Graham Cooper]

On Oct 1, 12:15 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 1/10/2012 10:15 AM, Graham Cooper wrote:









On Sep 30, 5:24 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
On 23/09/2012 4:35 PM, Graham Cooper wrote:\

On Sep 23, 3:52 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message

news:505e804b$0$1566$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com...

Graham Cooper wrote:
On Sep 22, 8:52 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:43:59 +0000 (UTC), BruceS
bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:40:06 -0700, Graham Cooper wrote:

snip
Graham is back! I for one was concerned that you'd been put in
jail, or an institution. Are you going to entertain us with stories
and videos of what you've been up to?

Yay!

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and
round... theobviousgcashman

Haha didn't know you cared!

Here's my $5000 12V setup, microwave and fridge got working this
morning.

+ Solar Panels $,$$$

+ batteries well all that buys quite a bit of mains power.

With connection costs plus nearly $400 per year for "supply"(billing) before
you use your first kW/Hr here, I reckon an off grid system is not that
silly. (Graham OTOH...
I had a friend who paid $20k in country Victoria just to get connected to
the grid, (*plus* quarterly supply, *plus* usage costs) Now that would buy a
lot of solar panels, inverters and batteries IMO!!!

Trevor.

A microwave is pretty simple, takes as much power as an aircon but
only run it 5 - 10 minutes a day.

$5000 included my $3000 battery stack which is way more than you need..
But it will keep the batteries lasting forever, run the fridge during
a month of cloud.

This is the $80 20 AMP charger I'm using until I wire up the Amorphous
Panels.

http://pro1og.com/SolarBatts.jpg

For a microwave, or a bit more to add a 12V fridge..

1 150AH battery $700  (I'm using 4 - see pic)
1000W Inverter $800
200W panels $600
20AMP regulator $80

wire.. clips.. bolts.. ladder..

I'm going to look for a variable power microwave this week and the
bread maker, they're only 500W x 3hrs, then I should be able to get by
on my own resources for a few months at a time.

Herc

How are those cables (the ones with covered with insulating tape)
actually joined?

If they're just twisted together, they're a fire hazard.

Sylvia.

I split the 200AMP cable into 8, and the 2 150AMP cables into 4 each.

        |
      ////
==> >      \\\\
       |

then I could get them hot enough to take solder.

It should be capable of about 300AMP-400AMP and only runs 100AMP max,
will get it down to 50AMP if I can find a variable power microwave.

It doesn't even get warm running the microwave, but since I had to do
the cables myself I made the loss as small as possible.

problem is it takes 600mA just sitting there...  about 3 of my 30
solar panels just for standby.

Herc

12V * 600mA = 7.2 watts. Do your panels really deliver a total of 72W?

sylvia.

1 amp each amorphous. 8 hours / day effective

= 30/3
= 10 AMP
= 120W continuous on a sunny day (plus night).

Actually they're not installed yet, my drainpipe water has improved
but still murky and needs a pressure cleaner.

So I'll pressure clean the whole roof while I'm up there before I
install the remainder of the panels.

Also have 2 monocrystalline, 80W each will run a fan, light, and
peltier coolers during the day.

i.e have a main 24 hour 600AmpHour system.

and with my old battery stack will only have enough charge to run from
10am to 10pm if I rig it right.

I have a solar panel powering a 3W LED LAMP all day and into the
evening save hitting the light switch.

So will use the same solar regulated system to kick in fans and
peltier coolers to stop food spoilage. i.e. peltier coolers running
at 10% capacity to keep under 20 degrees.

Shed heats up during the day, has to be countered.

Herc

 

[John-Melb]

On Oct 1, 8:52 pm, keithr <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:

A PLANE equipped with heat-seeking night-vision technology and radar has
arrived in Queensland and will now join the search for a plane missing
in the rugged Sunshine Coast hinterland.

Thick cloud is hampering the search for the missing red 1934 De
Havilland DH84 Dragon , which disappeared on Monday afternoon.

According to live flight tracking data, the Dornier (fixed wing plane),
chartered from Essendon in Victoria, arrived about 8.16pm.

Earlier, an Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman said the
Dornier would join two AGL action rescue helicopters in the search.

"They have electronic equipment, radar and heat seeking equipment they
can use to search in the dark.''

It is believed the missing plane was piloted by Des Porter, who as an
11-year-old was the sole survivor of a plane crash that killed both his
father and older brother. Mr Porter's father, Stanley, was piloting a De
Havilland DH84 when it crashed in Brisbane in 1954.

Mr Porter was today flying his plane from Monto - where he had been at a
vintage air show - to Caboolture.

The Board Member of Recreational Aviation Australia and organiser of the
Monto fly-in, Miles Breitkreutz, said he was shocked to learn about the
plane's disappearance.
Des Porter with the 1934 De Havilland

Pilot Des Porter and his 1934 De Havilland DH84 Dragon. Picture: Glenn
Barnes

"I can confirm he (Des Porter) was spoken to by radio as he flew over
Gayndah at 11.51am this morning,'' he said.

"All I can say is Des Porter was the pilot of the aircraft and he was at
out fly-in.''

Authorities responded to an emergency beacon, which was activated after
the pilot made some initial patchy communications at 2.45pm, 45 nautical
miles north-west of Caboolture.

In a statement, police said the plane went missing near Kilcoy. Police
and AuSAR are coordinating an air and land search west of the Imbil area.

Early reports suggest the plane may have run out of fuel. The plane was
due back at Caboolture airport at 2.15pm.

A search area between Kingaroy and Maleny has been established.

The search is being hampered by thick, low cloud.

"Since the beacon activated, we have been unable to make radio contact
with the plane,'' the Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman said.

"They were in communication with Brisbane Air Services and were
requesting assistance at that time.''

An AGL action rescue helicopter spokeswoman said the helicopter was
tasked to join the search shortly after the beacon was activated.

"It has now been sometime since there was any communication from the
pilot and the beacon is no longer active," the spokeswoman said.

Police have appealed for anyone who saw the plane to phone Crime
Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Keefy, why am I reading this on "aus.politics.guns" and not on
"aus.politics.oldplanesfallingoutofthesky"?

 

[dechucka]

"John-Melb" <mcnamara_john@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d172ff70-ab39-43a4-8d38-1a19b82a3602@u2g2000pbl.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 1, 8:52 pm, keithr <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:

A PLANE equipped with heat-seeking night-vision technology and radar has
arrived in Queensland and will now join the search for a plane missing
in the rugged Sunshine Coast hinterland.

Thick cloud is hampering the search for the missing red 1934 De
Havilland DH84 Dragon , which disappeared on Monday afternoon.

According to live flight tracking data, the Dornier (fixed wing plane),
chartered from Essendon in Victoria, arrived about 8.16pm.

Earlier, an Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman said the
Dornier would join two AGL action rescue helicopters in the search.

"They have electronic equipment, radar and heat seeking equipment they
can use to search in the dark.''

It is believed the missing plane was piloted by Des Porter, who as an
11-year-old was the sole survivor of a plane crash that killed both his
father and older brother. Mr Porter's father, Stanley, was piloting a De
Havilland DH84 when it crashed in Brisbane in 1954.

Mr Porter was today flying his plane from Monto - where he had been at a
vintage air show - to Caboolture.

The Board Member of Recreational Aviation Australia and organiser of the
Monto fly-in, Miles Breitkreutz, said he was shocked to learn about the
plane's disappearance.
Des Porter with the 1934 De Havilland

Pilot Des Porter and his 1934 De Havilland DH84 Dragon. Picture: Glenn
Barnes

"I can confirm he (Des Porter) was spoken to by radio as he flew over
Gayndah at 11.51am this morning,'' he said.

"All I can say is Des Porter was the pilot of the aircraft and he was at
out fly-in.''

Authorities responded to an emergency beacon, which was activated after
the pilot made some initial patchy communications at 2.45pm, 45 nautical
miles north-west of Caboolture.

In a statement, police said the plane went missing near Kilcoy. Police
and AuSAR are coordinating an air and land search west of the Imbil area.

Early reports suggest the plane may have run out of fuel. The plane was
due back at Caboolture airport at 2.15pm.

A search area between Kingaroy and Maleny has been established.

The search is being hampered by thick, low cloud.

"Since the beacon activated, we have been unable to make radio contact
with the plane,'' the Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman
said.

"They were in communication with Brisbane Air Services and were
requesting assistance at that time.''

An AGL action rescue helicopter spokeswoman said the helicopter was
tasked to join the search shortly after the beacon was activated.

"It has now been sometime since there was any communication from the
pilot and the beacon is no longer active," the spokeswoman said.

Police have appealed for anyone who saw the plane to phone Crime
Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Keefy, why am I reading this on "aus.politics.guns" and not on
"aus.politics.oldplanesfallingoutofthesky"?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It was obviosly shot down by a law abiding duck hunter with a Stinger

 

[keithr]

On 2/10/2012 8:24 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On Oct 1, 8:52 pm, keithr <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:
A PLANE equipped with heat-seeking night-vision technology and radar has
arrived in Queensland and will now join the search for a plane missing
in the rugged Sunshine Coast hinterland.

Thick cloud is hampering the search for the missing red 1934 De
Havilland DH84 Dragon , which disappeared on Monday afternoon.

According to live flight tracking data, the Dornier (fixed wing plane),
chartered from Essendon in Victoria, arrived about 8.16pm.

Earlier, an Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman said the
Dornier would join two AGL action rescue helicopters in the search.

"They have electronic equipment, radar and heat seeking equipment they
can use to search in the dark.''

It is believed the missing plane was piloted by Des Porter, who as an
11-year-old was the sole survivor of a plane crash that killed both his
father and older brother. Mr Porter's father, Stanley, was piloting a De
Havilland DH84 when it crashed in Brisbane in 1954.

Mr Porter was today flying his plane from Monto - where he had been at a
vintage air show - to Caboolture.

The Board Member of Recreational Aviation Australia and organiser of the
Monto fly-in, Miles Breitkreutz, said he was shocked to learn about the
plane's disappearance.
Des Porter with the 1934 De Havilland

Pilot Des Porter and his 1934 De Havilland DH84 Dragon. Picture: Glenn
Barnes

"I can confirm he (Des Porter) was spoken to by radio as he flew over
Gayndah at 11.51am this morning,'' he said.

"All I can say is Des Porter was the pilot of the aircraft and he was at
out fly-in.''

Authorities responded to an emergency beacon, which was activated after
the pilot made some initial patchy communications at 2.45pm, 45 nautical
miles north-west of Caboolture.

In a statement, police said the plane went missing near Kilcoy. Police
and AuSAR are coordinating an air and land search west of the Imbil area.

Early reports suggest the plane may have run out of fuel. The plane was
due back at Caboolture airport at 2.15pm.

A search area between Kingaroy and Maleny has been established.

The search is being hampered by thick, low cloud.

"Since the beacon activated, we have been unable to make radio contact
with the plane,'' the Australian Maritime Safety Authority spokeswoman said.

"They were in communication with Brisbane Air Services and were
requesting assistance at that time.''

An AGL action rescue helicopter spokeswoman said the helicopter was
tasked to join the search shortly after the beacon was activated.

"It has now been sometime since there was any communication from the
pilot and the beacon is no longer active," the spokeswoman said.

Police have appealed for anyone who saw the plane to phone Crime
Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Keefy, why am I reading this on "aus.politics.guns" and not on
"aus.politics.oldplanesfallingoutofthesky"?

Coz I fucked up, unlike some, I do not deliberately post off topic messages.

 

[John - Melb]

On Oct 2, 5:28 pm, keithr <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:

Coz I fucked up, unlike some, I do not deliberately post off topic messages.

And I thought you only posted to aus.politics.guns to annoy the crap
out of me?

I'm not annoyed, but I am highly amused.

 

[John-Melb]

On Oct 2, 8:35 pm, keithr <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:

But you are still a cross posting arsehole

This message is brought to you by the fellow who posts irrelevant crap
about antique aircraft on aus.politics.guns

It's OK Keefy, I understand, you got lonely and thought you posting
irrelevant crap on aus.politics.guns would get a bite out of me and at
least you'd have another human being to communicate with.

Sucks to be you, hey.