PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Eeyore]

Arny Krueger wrote:

The dollar is still the official legal tender in many countries other than
the US. And defacto legal tender in many more.

There's a few non-EU countries using the Euro too.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Les Cargill wrote:

The literature is what's know as "agitprop". It's a part of the
story. Your statement can easily be untrue without being
false - it is a partial truth.

Like AGW !

Graham

 

[Les Cargill]

Eeyore wrote:

Les Cargill wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
keithr wrote:
I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.
The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget. Also, if you don't
like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.

America! Love it, or stay home.
I think increasingly people will stay home. I'll bet Florida's economy would
have been crippled had it not been for the falling dollar.
Florida is nothing but a military outpost with pretensions to
real estate speculation. Has been since Osceola and Al
Capone, respectively. Tourism is recent, and limited
to certain regions which have developed a really nasty
crime problem recently...

It also serves as a mythic Shangri La for people from New York City,
at least since "Midnight Cowboy". They buy beach condos and then
don't live in them.

The Brevard County seat is Titusville. The first
telephone line in a county building was in the courthouse in Titusville
around 1950. It was not named after Titus Andronicus, but it should have
been... the point being, there was nobody here.

But the weather is awesome.

Awesomely humid too I hear which wouldn't attract me.

Mid Florida is not that humid - typical winter humidities are
in the 40-60% range. Maybe a little more. To be honest,
the weather is *VERY* nice here. You must stay hydrated, but
in season, it's gorgeous. It's sub-tropical. "Down South"(Miami)
is fully tropical.

It's a good bit cheaper here as well. We have a couple of
by-Golly Irish pubs and one Scottish one, founded by expats.

I am referring to the "lower Alabama" portions of Florida, not Miami,
which is an ostensibly South American outpost that nobody really
understands.

Interesting post. I wish I understood it better.

Of all people, Jimmy Buffet writes a bit about the
Spanish-American Coast/Caribbean/South American thing a bit, in
travelogue form. His books are a good read.

Graham

--
Les Cargill

 

[Eeyore]

David Segall wrote:

"Moi" <user@user.com> wrote:

Most of us have become frustrated with Phil but now and then he
gives really good information. I killfiled him long ago to get rid of the
abuse, only to see his post quoted numerous times by others!
You need a better news reader! I use Forte Agent
http://www.forteinc.com/> which provides kill options to mark the
post as read, delete the post or delete the post and all follow ups.
It also enables you to delete a sub-thread so you can ignore the
exchange between two posters having an off-topic argument in a thread
that you are interested in. It costs $US30.00 but I have been told
that the free Xnews <http://xnews.newsguy.com/> has similar features.

Forte Agent is a very powerful tool but way more than most people need.

I use Netscape 4.8 and you might be surpised to see how many other people do
too. Does what it says on the box as they say. And FREE from their archives.

Should you need a killfile a free add-on is available too but I forget its
name. Google should know.

Graham

 

[liquidator]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Les Cargill wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

One of the problems with people who live in second-rate countries like
the
UK is that they don't appreciate the complexities of life

Uh ? Been there, done it centuries before. Very smartly too, based almost
entirely
on trade rather than military force.


in the rather large and complex country that is still *The* world
power.

For a little longer maybe.


This is just ridiculous, Arny. Stop it. You are embarrassing yourself.

I couldn't agree more. It's sad to see how quite intelligent people can
fail to
have a good grasp of world history.

How about going back to the days of Carthage, Troy and Rome ?

Graham

The operative word in blind patriotism is blind.

 

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:48ADD5A7.24550767@hotmail.com

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote

Arny Krueger wrote:

I note that those *lovely places* called "Concentration
Camps" were invented by the British during their
attempt to suppress personal liberties in South
Africa. Talk about covering yourself with glory in the
pages of history!

Fundmanentally(sic) no different to the camps you put
your Japanese citizens in during WW2.

Well yes, they were both composed of buildings. While
the US accommodations were spartan, the survival rate
was very, very high. The US paid tens of millions in
compensation, and issued formal apologies.

Note that Canada interned tens of thousands of Japanese
at the same time. Thus, the British Commonwealth is in
no position to point an accusing finger.

Except I don't think we confiscated their property too.

True, Kitchener's "Scorched Earth" policy was about
total destruction, not confiscation.

There was a very high death rate in the British
concentration camps due to disease and malnutrition.The
disposition of the property of the thousands of dead
hardly mattered to them.

Interesting what the allegedly superior British
educational system does not teach...

Big difference. The Japanese Americans weren't actually
fighting you.

Given the serious problems we had with sabotage during WW1, many were not in
the mood to experiment.

Again, there's no comparison with Kitchener's Death Camps and mass
destruction. There were not millions of dollars in compensation, and there
was no apology.

Furthermore, a British Commonwealth nation also ran detention camps for
their Japanese. I believe that Canada's per-capita rate of detainment was
far greater than ours.

The Dutch (Boers) were however fully at war
with us.

But they had a good reason to fight you.

 

[keithr]

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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
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What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".

That is an interesting one, I lived in the USA for nearly
6 years first on a working visa then as a permanent
resident with a green card. I had no right to vote even
for the local selectmen, therefore I had no
representation, didn't stop both the state and federal
governments from taxing me though.

I note that voting in the UK and most other countries is also restricted
to citizens, so you are whining about a policy that is in fact accepted
reality.

The taxes you paid were substantially the ones in force when you got your
visa. You were offered a deal, you took it, and now you apparently wish to
whine about it.

Not my problem. I guess you should have stayed home. ;-)

Jeeze you yanks are very touchy about criticism of you country while feeling
free to criticise the rest of the world. Read my lips, I am not complaining
about paying tax whilst living there, taxes unfortunately are a fact of
life. What I am pointing out is the hypocrisy of making "No taxation without
representation" a basic part of the revolution and then taxing people who
have no representation.



I enjoyed my time over there, and am quite happy now knowing that out of the
places where I have lived for significant periods of time (Australia, UK,
US, and Japan), Australia is far and away the best.



Keith

 

[keithr]

"Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in message
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On 21/08/08 12:41, in article
VDbrk.53345$_03.3426@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi, "Iain Churches"
IainNG@kolumbus.fi> wrote:

(...)


Hi Joe.
Where do I find these headers in Outlook Express?

Iain

No idea, sorry. Haven't used Windows since NT 4.0.


--
Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com

Why answer then?

Keith

 

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:48ADD7CA.322AAF20@hotmail.com

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Les Cargill" <lcargill@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote:

You're avoiding the obvious point - the reason for our
Revolutionary War was was that the British were raping
us.

That is patently and very simply untrue.

So much for all the literature of the day that basically
said exactly that.

Whose literature ?

Obviously, there was very little British literature that was critical of the
crown, given that there was no relevant freedom of speech in Britain at the
time. Umm, we hadn't invented it yet... ;-)

 

[Arny Krueger]

"Iain Churches" <IainNG@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Larsen" <digilyd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Also, if you don't like the way we do things, you
are free to stay home.

Actually, I am not, I don't go there for pleasure, I
go there to work

that's no excuse. if you don't like it, you can find
a different job.

How's the dollar Michael?

Improving.

Erm. Hardly!.

Note that Ian has no concept of recent improvements.

When the European Monetary Union was established
by The Maastricht Treaty of 1992, the value of the
Euro was set at parity with the USD.

Now it stands at Euro 1 = USD1.488

But last month it was Euro 1 = USD 1.58, and in April it peaked at 1.60.

That's called an improvement, since you obviously couldn't figure it out for
yourself, Ian.

"Improving" eh?

Very much so, but one needs to have current and historical knowlege to
appreciate it.

 

[keithr]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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keithr wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:j7-dnZFQ8MW8SDHVnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink.com...

keithr wrote:

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look
forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places
as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed
for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited
that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure
what
they are scared of.


The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget.

Immigration officials don't find illegal crap, that is customs and they,
by
comparison, are quite easy to get along with.


How do you propose to get into the US without using both?

I have no quibble with US Customs, they are usually courtious and
unobtrusive, the total opposite of the surly bastards at immigration

Also, if you don't like the way we do things, you are free to stay
home.

Actually, I am not, I don't go there for pleasure, I go there to work


that's no excuse. if you don't like it, you can find a different
job.

No intention to, I get very well rewarded, and every job has some sort of
shit to put up with.

America! Love it, or stay home.

America! Put up with it, you don't have a choice


Sure I do. That's why I stay at home. I've already met enough
ignorant foreign tourists to last me several lifetimes. The bad to good
ratio has been about 20 to 1.

What goes around comes around, US tourists don't have a good reputation
abroad.

Keith

 

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:48ADD20C.3338CD95@hotmail.com

The Brevard County seat is Titusville. The first
telephone line in a county building was in the
courthouse in Titusville around 1950. It was not named
after Titus Andronicus, but it should have been... the
point being, there was nobody here.

But the weather is awesome.

Awesomely humid too I hear which wouldn't attract me.

Agreed.

I lived in Homestead for nearly a year. I've never been subjectively hotter
in summer or colder in winter.

I am referring to the "lower Alabama" portions of
Florida, not Miami, which is an ostensibly South
American outpost that nobody really understands.

When I lived there, Florida was a state that culturally become more
northern, the further south you went. Key West resembled Maine, Miami had a
lot in common with New York, but Jacksonville was definitely part of the old
south.

Interesting post. I wish I understood it better.

I've visited or lived in 47 of the 50 US states. Not having visited Alaska
and Hawaii is easy to explain, but Alabama was one of those things that just
sort of slipped through the cracks. Well, I flew over it 3 times. ;-)

 

[Arny Krueger]

"keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48ae0897@dnews.tpgi.com.au

What goes around comes around, US tourists don't have a
good reputation abroad.

Most of the world is a very dangerous, illogical place compared to the US. I
admit it, we're spoiled. ;-)

 

[keithr]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The worst part is arrogant tourists who expect us to kiss their ass,
simply because they flew across an ocean. Nt all of them are like that,
but the ones that are leave a foul stench in the air. When I hear how
much better things are in some other country I simply ask them, Why do
you keep coming back?

Funny, that is what is said about american tourists all over the world.

 

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:48ADD873.4E343575@hotmail.com

Arny Krueger wrote:

I note that voting in the UK and most other countries is
also restricted to citizens

You need to educate yourself. The Irish (Republic of) can
vote in UK elections for one and have been able to do so
since time immemorial.

The one exception does not disprove the rule.

Also I think now can any resident EU citizens.

Good that the EU has finally figured out what we've had in the US for just a
few hundred years.

 

[Arny Krueger]

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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:48AC3648.31740115@hotmail.com

What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".

That is an interesting one, I lived in the USA for
nearly 6 years first on a working visa then as a
permanent resident with a green card. I had no right to
vote even for the local selectmen, therefore I had no
representation, didn't stop both the state and federal
governments from taxing me though.

I note that voting in the UK and most other countries is
also restricted to citizens, so you are whining about a
policy that is in fact accepted reality.

The taxes you paid were substantially the ones in force
when you got your visa. You were offered a deal, you
took it, and now you apparently wish to whine about it.

Not my problem. I guess you should have stayed home. ;-)

Jeeze you yanks are very touchy about criticism of you
country while feeling free to criticise the rest of the
world.

Sue me for pointing out hypocracy and irrationality.

Read my lips, I am not complaining about paying
tax whilst living there, taxes unfortunately are a fact
of life. What I am pointing out is the hypocrisy of
making "No taxation without representation" a basic part
of the revolution and then taxing people who have no
representation.

You obviously don't know what "No taxation without representation" means to
Americans.

I enjoyed my time over there, and am quite happy now
knowing that out of the places where I have lived for
significant periods of time (Australia, UK, US, and
Japan), Australia is far and away the best.

Australia would be a province of Japan and ruled by fascists, were it not
for decades of protection by the US.

 

[keithr]

"Les Cargill" <lcargill@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Eeyore wrote:

Les Cargill wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
keithr wrote:
I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look
forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places
as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed
for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited
that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure
what
they are scared of.
The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget. Also, if you don't
like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.

America! Love it, or stay home.
I think increasingly people will stay home. I'll bet Florida's economy
would
have been crippled had it not been for the falling dollar.
Florida is nothing but a military outpost with pretensions to
real estate speculation. Has been since Osceola and Al
Capone, respectively. Tourism is recent, and limited
to certain regions which have developed a really nasty
crime problem recently...

It also serves as a mythic Shangri La for people from New York City,
at least since "Midnight Cowboy". They buy beach condos and then
don't live in them.

The Brevard County seat is Titusville. The first
telephone line in a county building was in the courthouse in Titusville
around 1950. It was not named after Titus Andronicus, but it should have
been... the point being, there was nobody here.

But the weather is awesome.

Awesomely humid too I hear which wouldn't attract me.


Mid Florida is not that humid - typical winter humidities are
in the 40-60% range. Maybe a little more. To be honest,
the weather is *VERY* nice here. You must stay hydrated, but
in season, it's gorgeous. It's sub-tropical. "Down South"(Miami)
is fully tropical.

It's a good bit cheaper here as well. We have a couple of
by-Golly Irish pubs and one Scottish one, founded by expats.


I am referring to the "lower Alabama" portions of Florida, not Miami,
which is an ostensibly South American outpost that nobody really
understands.

Interesting post. I wish I understood it better.


Of all people, Jimmy Buffet writes a bit about the
Spanish-American Coast/Caribbean/South American thing a bit, in
travelogue form. His books are a good read.

I cant say that I liked Florida all that much, Key West is an interesting
place but I don't think I 'd like to live there although I wouldn't mind
revisiting it. Miami seemed to be a totally phoney place full of posers and
elderly retirees who flee north as soon as the temperature gets over 75. I
did get a bit interested in buying a house in Cape Canaveral, a nice
waterfront where you could watch the shuttle launch from the back yard, and
at a good price too. If I had to spend the rest of my life in the US though,
I think that it would be on the Oregon coast, the scenery and the people
there were very nice.

Keith

 

[keithr]

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I'd love to see an American history book. They must get
these ideas from somewhere.

The Scandinavian nations in general seem to hold the US
in rather low esteem.

It is known as "Ankle Biting".

There are often comparisons in the
Swedish press of American and Scandinavian educational
systems, social policies, salary levels, political
structure, etc etc.

More ankle biting.

Obviously, they have feelings of inferiority or why else would they be
trying to re-balance the books?

Most of the smarter, more industrious Scandinavians
emigrated to the US decades ago. Who cares what those
laggards that are left behind think?

Ah that great american combination of arrogance and
ignorance.

Prove it.

Claiming to have won both world wars single handed would be a good start.

 

[Eeyore]

keithr wrote:

Jeeze you yanks are very touchy about criticism of you country while feeling
free to criticise the rest of the world.

Some years ago I was was on the 'tube' in London. There were some obviously
American tourists nearby. I was hoping 'please don't say anything crappy' but on
the way out of the station both wives complained about having to walk up steps
instead of there being an escalator. All of about 15 feet rise I'd say.

Both looked like you could power your car for several hundred miles if their
spare fat were turned into motor fuel.

Graham

 

[keithr]

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Les Cargill" <lcargill@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote:

You're avoiding the obvious point - the reason for our
Revolutionary War was was that the British were raping
us.

That is patently and very simply untrue.

So much for all the literature of the day that basically
said exactly that.

Whose literature ?

Obviously, there was very little British literature that was critical of
the crown, given that there was no relevant freedom of speech in Britain
at the time. Umm, we hadn't invented it yet... ;-)

More proof of the arrogance and ignorance issue.