PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[TT]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:489D5DB9.FA6CEF8@hotmail.com...

TT wrote:

Here's the deal, you ring them up and you talk to them. Then when they
tell
you Philthy uses an anonymous remailer from the Berlin University and
they
can't be certain (Ha!!) it is really him then you come back here and
apologise to me and say I told you so.

You mean ........
http://www.fu-berlin.de/

I'm sure you have looked at the path in the headers for one of Philthy's
posts ;-) ;-) IIRC he even bragged here once how he was now untouchable.
Funny really, as we still know where he lives ;-)

Yes, I've battled with them before.

Ahhhh...... Maybe you are the "chosen one" ;-) The prophesies foretold of a
daring Knight that would one day cast the dirty little Troll into the pit of
................ Nah! Let's just go around and kick his head in ) Note:
This is a joke. Intended humour without the intent to incite violence.
Thought I had better add that last bit. You know how these psychotics will
selectively edit anything they read.

The trick (amongst others) is to appeal to
the Chancellor of the University.

Alas, even though I am of German descent I cannot speak the language ;-)

Cheers TT

 

[keithr]

"TT" <TTencerNoSpAm@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:sbudncDgVejcwADVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@westnet.com.au...

BTW I do genuinely wish you all the best in this but honestly I have given
it a pretty good go. I am just so frustrated with the whole system here.
If I touch him I am in trouble, if I spend money and take on a lawyer for
a civil action the advice I had (from the lawyer) is it will cost me a lot
and I will definitely fail to recoup expenses. Philthy has *nothing*. He
rents a bed-sit, doesn't own a car (doesn't even have a license) and has
some meagre possessions which includes some kit speakers, a Sony CDP101
and a guitar amp.

and a set of rusty Quad electros surely.

 

[Joe Kotroczo]

On 9/08/08 10:12, in article
Rc-dnVOhH__4zADVnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@westnet.com.au, "TT"
<TTencerNoSpAm@westnet.com.au> wrote:

(...)

Abuse of AUP (acceptable use policy) and TOS (terms of service) are taken
seriously by major ISPs.

Graham


Here's the deal, you ring them up and you talk to them. Then when they tell
you Philthy uses an anonymous remailer from the Berlin University and they
can't be certain (Ha!!) it is really him then you come back here and
apologise to me and say I told you so.

Remailer? For Usenet?

Could it be that he is posting via news.individual.net?

In that case, try abuse@individual.net.


--
Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com

 

[Lord Valve]

Eeyore wrote:

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

"William Black" wrote:
"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote

A woman was taken to court in the UK recently and fined for displaying a
toy golliwog in the window of the charity shop it had been donated to.

Cite please...

Might not be the same incident:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-442509/Police-seize-golliwogs-racis
m-probe.html

That's the one.

Then there was they guy in Liverpool ? who had his home raided by an armed
police team for having a life size model of Lara Croft (used a sales promotion
tool for PC games) in his house because she was carrying a 'gun'.

Apparently under newish laws a 'replica gun' may be treated as a real one.

Graham

You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep electing, you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.

Lord Valve
Armed American

 

[William Black]

"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:489DAE7F.E06FD70E@ix.netcom.com...

You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep electing,
you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.

So...

You're insane then...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

 

[liquidator]

"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g7kbbr$4pk$1@registered.motzarella.org...

"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:489DAE7F.E06FD70E@ix.netcom.com...


You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep
electing,
you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.


So...

You're insane then...

While he is a bit more assertive, LV and I agree in principle.

If gun control were instituted way back, the US would still be an Engllish
colony. And England would still be stopping American ships on the high seas
and pressing American citizens into the military,

Sorry but that ain't my worl.

It amazes me that the proposed solution to people ignoring existing guns
laws is to pass a whole lot more gun laws. The criminals will just ignore
them, the only people penalized will be law abiding citizens.

I would not live in a county where the police could raid my home over a
game promo toy.

We have our silly laws too. Don't know if it's still on the books, but just
a few years ago, one state still had a law, if your car scared a horse, you
were required to dismantle your car and hide the pieces in the roadside
bushes. Once the horse was past, you could reassemble your car and proceed.

It was still a lw in the '80's, hopefully been taken off by now. And don't
get me started on our ridiculous prosecution of drug offenders. Prisons are
a growth industry in the US. Let's outlaw THEM.

 

[William Black]

"liquidator" <mikeh@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:489DAE7F.E06FD70E@ix.netcom.com...


You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep
electing,
you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.


So...

You're insane then...

While he is a bit more assertive, LV and I agree in principle.

If gun control were instituted way back, the US would still be an Engllish
colony. And England would still be stopping American ships on the high
seas
and pressing American citizens into the military,

Eh?

That's two wars.

Neither of which were fought by 'England', but that's another story.

As for pressing 'US Citizens', try reading when the war was and when the US
became a country and seeing what you get...

That's before I mention that the practice was stopped before the US declared
war.

A war that just happened to coincide with the UK fighting yet one more
European tyrant, but hey, why let someone saving the world interfere with
a cynical land grab by the USA?

Oh yes, and I own guns; I do have a license, but they're not hard to get.

I would not live in a county where the police could raid my home over a
game promo toy.

Wanna bet?

You're living in a country where they'll raid your house for buying your
cigars in the wrong place and where the FBI takes an interest on what books
you take out of the library.

Put a figure of Lara Croft with her gun in your window (or even better, a
cut-out of Osama or one of his lot with an AK), back-light it and see if
nobody calls...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

 

[liquidator]

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You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep
electing,
you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.


So...

You're insane then...

While he is a bit more assertive, LV and I agree in principle.

If gun control were instituted way back, the US would still be an
Engllish
colony. And England would still be stopping American ships on the high
seas
and pressing American citizens into the military,

Eh?

That's two wars.

Neither of which were fought by 'England', but that's another story.

As for pressing 'US Citizens', try reading when the war was and when the
US
became a country and seeing what you get...

That's before I mention that the practice was stopped before the US
declared
war.

A war that just happened to coincide with the UK fighting yet one more
European tyrant, but hey, why let someone saving the world interfere
with
a cynical land grab by the USA?

Oh yes, and I own guns; I do have a license, but they're not hard to
get.

I would not live in a county where the police could raid my home over a
game promo toy.

Wanna bet?

You're living in a country where they'll raid your house for buying your
cigars in the wrong place and where the FBI takes an interest on what
books
you take out of the library.

Put a figure of Lara Croft with her gun in your window (or even better, a
cut-out of Osama or one of his lot with an AK), back-light it and see if
nobody calls...

--
William Black

Your history books are certainly interesting. I'll leave it at that.

As far as such a display, I've done similar things. Such as demilled hand
grenades, back in the 80's I managed a retail store for a bit.

I sincerely doubt a Laura Croft figure would draw a second glane around
here

OTOH people definitely do jail time for victimless crimes over here. The
excuse for busting pot is it supports terrorism. They completely ignore 99%
of the pot here is from North America. I didn't realize Canada and Mexico
were terrorist countries.

The problem with a Democracy is people can be manipulated. Essentially
media owners can get together and make or break a candidate, assuming he's
not totally corrupt to begin with.

But I firmly believe take away citizen's arms and the government will get
much worse.

 

[Phildo]

"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:489DAE7F.E06FD70E@ix.netcom.com...

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

Better that than have thousands of innocent people killed each year by guns,
whether accidents or murders.

Hell, your government only has to use the excuse that something is "against
terrorism" and you septics roll over and let them erode all your civil
liberties. Just look at the Patriot act which should really be called the
"let's-fuck-the-people-over-using-the-fight-against-terrorism-as-an-excuse"
act.

Phildo

 

[-=Spudley=-]

"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:489DAE7F.E06FD70E@ix.netcom.com...

Eeyore wrote:

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

"William Black" wrote:
"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote

A woman was taken to court in the UK recently and fined for
displaying a
toy golliwog in the window of the charity shop it had been donated
to.

Cite please...

Might not be the same incident:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-442509/Police-seize-golliwogs-racis
m-probe.html

That's the one.

Then there was they guy in Liverpool ? who had his home raided by an
armed
police team for having a life size model of Lara Croft (used a sales
promotion
tool for PC games) in his house because she was carrying a 'gun'.

Apparently under newish laws a 'replica gun' may be treated as a real
one.

Graham

You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep electing,
you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.

Make it quick, before you've blow each others away.

Lord Valve
Armed American

 

[Eeyore]

William Black wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Joe Kotroczo wrote:
"William Black" wrote:
"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote

A woman was taken to court in the UK recently and fined for displaying
a toy golliwog in the window of the charity shop it had been donated to.

Cite please...

Might not be the same incident:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-442509/Police-seize-golliwogs-racis
m-probe.html

That's the one.

No prosecution there.

I didn't say there was. There was still a police investigation. If you read the
link it would explain.

It being a Daily Mail story it may not even have happened.

Such comments belittle you.

Then there was they guy in Liverpool ? who had his home raided by an armed
police team for having a life size model of Lara Croft (used a sales
promotion
tool for PC games) in his house because she was carrying a 'gun'.

Apparently under newish laws a 'replica gun' may be treated as a real one.

Well no.

Well, yes. Even a golf club (as happened to a guy I know) held in a certain way was
treated as a rifle.

Someone saw a shadow through a window of someone holding a gun and called
the cops.

And the cops reacted by arresting the homeowner and confiscating Lara Croft too
IIRC. Does that sound rational to you ?

Rob a bank with a replica and you get treated exactly as if you used a real
one.

Why do you think this is a bad idea?

That's not a bad idea because it's an actual CRIME.


Graham

 

[Eeyore]

William Black wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
William Black wrote:
"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote

A woman was taken to court in the UK recently and fined for displaying
a toy golliwog in the window of the charity shop it had been donated to.

Cite please...

Crikey, that'll be a difficult one to search for but I'll try. I do recall
the
case though.

It was a guy who owned the shop though. Ah, bless Google.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23389075-details/Golliwogs+seized+in+racism+charges/article.do

In the end he apparently wasn't fined but this isn't the first example of
this kind of idiotic namby-pamby political correctness I've seen reported.

" The Commission for Racial Equality said the question of whether
golliwogs were considered racist depended on the context in which they were
displayed.

"Some people might find them offensive, some people might not," said a
spokesman "

That's because some racist shits put them in their shop windows set up so
they look as if they're shagging.

Cite please ? I've never seen such a thing.

If anyone complains they say "Well, you can't stop 'em can you..."

Then, when someone objects, the telephone the Daily Mail...

What's your fixation with the Mail ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

TT wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
TT wrote:

Here's the deal, you ring them up and you talk to them. Then when they
tell you Philthy uses an anonymous remailer from the Berlin University and
they can't be certain (Ha!!) it is really him then you come back here and
apologise to me and say I told you so.

You mean ........
http://www.fu-berlin.de/

I'm sure you have looked at the path in the headers for one of Philthy's
posts ;-) ;-) IIRC he even bragged here once how he was now untouchable.
Funny really, as we still know where he lives ;-)

Yes, I've battled with them before.

Ahhhh...... Maybe you are the "chosen one" ;-) The prophesies foretold of a
daring Knight that would one day cast the dirty little Troll into the pit of
............... Nah! Let's just go around and kick his head in ) Note:
This is a joke. Intended humour without the intent to incite violence.
Thought I had better add that last bit. You know how these psychotics will
selectively edit anything they read.

The trick (amongst others) is to appeal to
the Chancellor of the University.

Alas, even though I am of German descent I cannot speak the language ;-)

But Germans generally speak ours.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Lord Valve wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Joe Kotroczo wrote:
"William Black" wrote:
"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote

A woman was taken to court in the UK recently and fined for displaying a
toy golliwog in the window of the charity shop it had been donated to.

Cite please...

Might not be the same incident:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-442509/Police-seize-golliwogs-racis
m-probe.html

That's the one.

Then there was they guy in Liverpool ? who had his home raided by an armed
police team for having a life size model of Lara Croft (used a sales promotion
tool for PC games) in his house because she was carrying a 'gun'.

Apparently under newish laws a 'replica gun' may be treated as a real one.

Graham

You poor fuckers are so pwN3D by the commie governments you keep electing, you
can't even own a fucking TOY gun.

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

I guess we'll have to come save your asses - AGAIN.

Well, in this instance it seems a passer-by saw the shadow of the gun and thought a
crime was in progress. The police over-reaction (including AIUI arresting the owner
of 'Lara Croft' was totally OTT though.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Phildo wrote:

"Lord Valve" <detritus@ix.netcom.com> wrote

Jeezuz...you couldn't pay me to live there. You can't defend
yourselves against armed invaders - if you do, YOU go to
the fucking hoosegow and the bad guys walk. Socialism
is a form of fucking INSANITY - and it has removed from
the populace the means with which to resist it.

Better that than have thousands of innocent people killed each year by guns,
whether accidents or murders.

The US:UK ratio is startlingly huge. Something like 200:1 IIRC after taking
population into account

Hell, your government only has to use the excuse that something is "against
terrorism" and you septics roll over and let them erode all your civil
liberties. Just look at the Patriot act which should really be called the
"let's-fuck-the-people-over-using-the-fight-against-terrorism-as-an-excuse"
act.

Happening here too after a fashion.

Have you seen 'The Power of Nighmares' ? A 3 part documentary series.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22power+of+nightmares%22&search_type=&aq=f

Graham

 

[William Black]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:489E9651.A825873D@hotmail.com...

William Black wrote:

It being a Daily Mail story it may not even have happened.

Such comments belittle you.

Well no.

It's very difficult to read the Daily Mail and not be lied to.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

 

[Eeyore]

William Black wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
William Black wrote:

It being a Daily Mail story it may not even have happened.

Such comments belittle you.

Well no.

It's very difficult to read the Daily Mail and not be lied to.

I used to hold that view. Now I'd be more likely to think it of the Guardian
(which is a crying shame).

I also visit the Times, Telegraph and Independent sites.

Graham

 

[William Black]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:489ECA70.6D385B0A@hotmail.com...

William Black wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
William Black wrote:

It being a Daily Mail story it may not even have happened.

Such comments belittle you.

Well no.

It's very difficult to read the Daily Mail and not be lied to.

I used to hold that view. Now I'd be more likely to think it of the
Guardian
(which is a crying shame).

I also visit the Times, Telegraph and Independent sites.

The only paper I've read and thoroughly enjoyed for a decade now is 'The
Times of India' which I read from cover to cover every day whenever I'm in
India, which is about three months a year.

It's well informed, excellently written and reasonably unbiased.

The UK press is now uniformly ghastly and the US press is provincial to an
extent that is positively unsettling to a European.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

 

[Eeyore]

TT wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Then when they tell you Philthy uses an anonymous remailer from the
Berlin University

Not that one again ? I've crossed swords with them before.

That is an advantage.

and they can't be certain (Ha!!) it is really him then you come back here
and apologise to me and say I told you so.

Don't you think that any of this has been tried before? Or do you think
we (Australians) actually want this idiot giving us all a bad name?

I'm sure you've done your very best.

I do believe I have.

I don't want to 'crow' too much, but by talking to the right people I've
had posters taken out that were using well known anonymisers. I even had one

poster terminated overnight by talking to to the webmaster at her ISP and
explaining the situation.

Oh, and then there was another one too. He had an independent personal news
server taken offline summarily that was being used primarily for abuse purposes.
Wow !- did the trolls HATE me for that ! Emails or phone calls to senior
executives (and the PR company) don't half help.

He got his connection restored after a month or two but no more trouble.

I recall the email I got back from his ISP. "the account has been terminated".
And it was the only way he could get broadband in his location IIRC.

I ought to have that framed and hung on the wall actually.

I even had a lengthy discussion with my own ISP about this to see what
could be done regarding Philthy's ISP. At the end of the day TPG
(Philthy's ISP) do not care and only want his money as long as Philthy is
not
breaking the law in this country.

That's why I asked if you have a telecoms regulator ? Do you ?

http://www.tio.com.au/ I have not contacted them on this matter as they are
more concerned with billing and scams.

There should be a solid TOS and AUP in place. If not, then the regulator needs
to whack the ISP.

There also may be breaches of common law involved btw - in which case you
could ask for a state prosecution.

Our police are overworked and understaffed they really don't care about
mouthy little turds at a computer terminal.

That would be a last resort.

BTW I do genuinely wish you all the best in this but honestly I have given
it a pretty good go. I am just so frustrated with the whole system here.
If I touch him I am in trouble, if I spend money and take on a lawyer for a
civil action the advice I had (from the lawyer) is it will cost me a lot and
I will definitely fail to recoup expenses. Philthy has *nothing*. He rents
a bed-sit, doesn't own a car (doesn't even have a license) and has some
meagre possessions which includes some kit speakers, a Sony CDP101 and a
guitar amp.

Also if you notice he doesn't actually abuse people that live in Sydney
because he knows they would drive around to see him. So he picks on people
at a distance and this is why he thinks he is invincible.

Let me chew this one over.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Joe Kotroczo wrote:

"TT" wrote:

Abuse of AUP (acceptable use policy) and TOS (terms of service) are taken
seriously by major ISPs.

Here's the deal, you ring them up and you talk to them. Then when they tell
you Philthy uses an anonymous remailer from the Berlin University and they
can't be certain (Ha!!) it is really him then you come back here and
apologise to me and say I told you so.

Remailer? For Usenet?

Some do.

Could it be that he is posting via news.individual.net?

In that case, try abuse@individual.net.

Last time I tried they seemed to have an abuse ('free speech') friendly webmaster.
Hence the email to the management of the Free University of Berlin who run that
service.

Graham