PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[TT]

"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 5:26 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
"David L. Jones" wrote:

They got sucked in by the whole Miami Vice thing perhaps? :-
My first visit to the US was flying into Miami. Boy, what a hole,
couldn't wait to get out of there. The worst city I visited in the US
by far.
I thought I flew into the wrong country, with all the airport signs in
Spanish.
Orlando, now there there was a much nicer place. Still pales compared
to Canada though, sorry.
If those are the only places you've seen, you still haven't been to
the real Florida. I haven't been to Orlando in seven years, or more.
It is better than it used to be, since the navy closed their base.
That
got rid of the hookers and con men. As far as Miami? That is too far
from reality for me to ever visit. I know a lot of people who moved
north to get away from the Cubans, Haitians and other illegal aliens
in
Miami. I live two hours north of Orlando in a quiet suburb, and plan
on
staying her till I die. Most tourist traps attract criminals, and
don't
reflect the real area. Sometimes a mile or two ant it is a completely
different world.
Sure, I agree.
But I don't think it's necessarily unfair to judge a region by it's
major city(s). At least not from a visiting tourist point of view.

You don't get people flocking out of say Sydney or Perth and
surrounding CBD's to get away from anything or anyone (the usual crowd
thing excepted).

I'm sure there are much better places in Florida, and I did really
like Orlando. I was told by a local limo guy that they have recently
spent big in recent time to spruce the place up. I was not
disappointed.

Miami though remains a hole, and every yank I spoke to about it
agreed :-

Dave.

I stayed in Orlando and found it a nice little spot. Miami scared the
shit out of me and I couldn't wait to get out of the place :-( When I
drove around Florida I tried to stay in the tiniest towns I could find.

Here is a funny (tragic is more apt) story. In 1999 on this trip we
were listening to talk back radio in the car. It took us a little while
to understand the argument that was raging. Anyway it was the city
fathers that had implemented a plan to clean up the homeless. If a
vagrant was arrested he had two choices, either 90 days in jail or a free
bus ticket to anywhere in the continental US and *IF* he ever returned it
would be a mandatory 6 months jail. The argument was that it did not
solve the homeless problem. The reverse argument was, it solved the
problem for Miami ;-)


Thats strange, in 5.5 years in the states, and 8 visits since, I have
never felt threatened there, but then I have never felt threatened
anywhere else either.

A whole bunch of Yanks that I have known felt threatened in situations
that I found no problem - maybe my situation awareness is at fault, but
then nothing bad has ever eventuated.

The only time I was there was 1999 with my wife and two kids under 12. I
was in a rented Jeep Larado and was trying to get to the Holiday Inn in Old
Miami. It was nearing sunset and I turned up a side street (because of the
two one-way road system) to get to the Inn. There was a park on the corner
and as I turned a wineo collided with the Jeep and nearly sprawled across
the bonnet. He staggered into the side of me! No injury, as he hit me at a
brisk stagger and there was hardly any speed involved on his part and at the
time I was stationary. Two or more of his mates then appeared and staggered
towards me in a threatening manner. Leaning against a pole, observing this,
was a hooker, obviously stoned out of her brain. Once I had established the
wino was OK (I judged this by the volume of the abuse and all limbs becoming
very agitated) I drove out as quickly as possible back to the main city
centre and the first major hotel I recognised (Sheraton) I drove to.

Old Miami IMHO is a dangerous, dirty shit hole and somewhere I did not chose
to expose my family to :-( We expected (yeah, stupid I know) that it was
going to be like the film "Something About Mary". BTW we went to Sea World
and watched Lolita (the performing Orca) and it deeply traumatised my
youngest child. She still recalls the experience now of how such a large
creature was kept in such a small pond :-(

Once we travelled away from Miami we found the people great and felt very
safe. Along the Alligator Highway some of the folk we encountered in the
swamps we felt that perhaps their parents should have gotten out more and
left their cousins (sisters?) alone ;-)

On the plane trip over I ended up talking to a very nice young lady (much to
my wife's disapproval) who was travelling back to New York to see her fiancé
who lived in lower Manhattan. I asked her what they were doing for the
Millennium party in NY, as I understood there was going to be a large party
in the city. She told me that the consensus amongst everyone she new that
everyone would stay at home. Her plans were to have a few friends from her
apartment over for small party and have a loaded hand gun at the ready! I
did ask if she was joking and no, she was deadly serious. She said they
expected all the crazies to be out that night and the Millennium Bug to kick
in!

These are just a couple of experiences I have had and there were many more.
In the cities I always felt very close to imminent danger and the knowledge
that nearly everyone has a gun doesn't help either :-(

Cheers TT

 

[TT]

"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a
disadvantage. I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to
Perth. Then again flying from LA to Boston, you pass
over a lot of uninhabited country. Like us, the yanks
tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith

Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is
another 700K in the next million! So the trend is here
as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the
sixties. So you were either an Aboriginal field officer
or a tech at the tracking station? I would bet the
later.

Cheers TT

Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great
place if you like isolation and being bossed around by
Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port Hotel and was the Shire
Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the couple that
parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife took a
look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles for
this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands,
unfortunately that didn't last long as it soon became
obvious that there was something of a gap between what
they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So it
was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got me a
near new car and the deposit for a house. Another 3.5
years as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally) taught
myself to fix computers and I have been in the computer
industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as
"Treckie". It made more sense the second time though. It
did conjure up some interesting scenarios of why a "Treckie"
was in Carnarvon though )

Cheers TT

 

[bassett]

"TT" <TTencerNoSpaM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a disadvantage. I
lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to Perth. Then again
flying from LA to Boston, you pass over a lot of uninhabited country.
Like us, the yanks tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith

Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is another 700K in the
next million! So the trend is here as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the sixties. So you
were either an Aboriginal field officer or a tech at the tracking
station? I would bet the later.

Cheers TT

Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great place if you like
isolation and being bossed around by Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port
Hotel and was the Shire Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the
couple that parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife took a
look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles for this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands, unfortunately that
didn't last long as it soon became obvious that there was something of a
gap between what they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So it was back to
being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got me a near new car and the
deposit for a house. Another 3.5 years as a trackie in Canberra where I
(literally) taught myself to fix computers and I have been in the
computer industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as "Treckie". It made
more sense the second time though. It did conjure up some interesting
scenarios of why a "Treckie" was in Carnarvon though )

Cheers TT
Perhaps he was "Beamed" down instead of being "Beamed" UP

 

[TT]

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"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a
disadvantage. I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to
Perth. Then again flying from LA to Boston, you pass
over a lot of uninhabited country. Like us, the yanks
tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith

Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is
another 700K in the next million! So the trend is here
as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the
sixties. So you were either an Aboriginal field
officer or a tech at the tracking station? I would bet
the later.

Cheers TT

Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great
place if you like isolation and being bossed around by
Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port Hotel and was the Shire
Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the couple
that parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife
took a look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles
for this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands,
unfortunately that didn't last long as it soon became
obvious that there was something of a gap between what
they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So
it was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got
me a near new car and the deposit for a house. Another
3.5 years as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally)
taught myself to fix computers and I have been in the
computer industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as
"Treckie". It made more sense the second time though.
It did conjure up some interesting scenarios of why a
"Treckie" was in Carnarvon though )

Cheers TT
Perhaps he was "Beamed" down instead of being "Beamed" UP
I got Jim Beamed on the weekend. Does that count? )

Hic! TT <}

 

[aussiblu]

Yes see Silicon Chip Issue 230 & 231
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_109528/article.html

--
Regards
Blue

Remove ZX from email address to reply directly.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:41:37 GMT, "aussiblu"
<zxaussiblu@bigpond.net.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Yes see Silicon Chip Issue 230 & 231
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_109528/article.html

Here are some pertinent images:
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1095/109528_6mg.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1095/109528_3mg.jpg
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1095/109528_4mg.jpg

- Franc Zabkar
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[Keithr]

TT wrote:

"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b7a3fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a
disadvantage. I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to
Perth. Then again flying from LA to Boston, you pass
over a lot of uninhabited country. Like us, the yanks
tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith
Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is
another 700K in the next million! So the trend is here
as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the
sixties. So you were either an Aboriginal field officer
or a tech at the tracking station? I would bet the
later.

Cheers TT
Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great
place if you like isolation and being bossed around by
Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port Hotel and was the Shire
Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the couple that
parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife took a
look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles for
this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands,
unfortunately that didn't last long as it soon became
obvious that there was something of a gap between what
they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So it
was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got me a
near new car and the deposit for a house. Another 3.5
years as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally) taught
myself to fix computers and I have been in the computer
industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as
"Treckie". It made more sense the second time though. It
did conjure up some interesting scenarios of why a "Treckie"
was in Carnarvon though )

As far as the locals were concerned we may as well have been beamed
down. We formed a definite subculture in a town full of "Interesting"
characters

Keith

 

[TT]

"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48C5D128.1030405@nowhere.com.au...

TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b7a3fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a
disadvantage. I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to
Perth. Then again flying from LA to Boston, you pass
over a lot of uninhabited country. Like us, the yanks
tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith
Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is
another 700K in the next million! So the trend is here
as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the
sixties. So you were either an Aboriginal field
officer or a tech at the tracking station? I would bet
the later.

Cheers TT
Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great
place if you like isolation and being bossed around by
Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port Hotel and was the Shire
Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the couple
that parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife
took a look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles
for this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands,
unfortunately that didn't last long as it soon became
obvious that there was something of a gap between what
they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So
it was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got
me a near new car and the deposit for a house. Another
3.5 years as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally)
taught myself to fix computers and I have been in the
computer industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as
"Treckie". It made more sense the second time though.
It did conjure up some interesting scenarios of why a
"Treckie" was in Carnarvon though )

As far as the locals were concerned we may as well have
been beamed down. We formed a definite subculture in a
town full of "Interesting" characters

Keith

When I think of Carnarvon even today the image I have is of
the big dish and indigenous people passed out all over the
town with empty flagons and beer bottles scattered around
them. It makes for a very graphic contrast.

Cheers TT

 

[The Doctor]

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
news:k22bc49ava5cg21d1clmf9jmfl9a8bs872@4ax.com:

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/im

Thank you. May be I can get it from Prime electronics?

 

[Arny Krueger]

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:

TT wrote:
Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses for a
change! There is a very big, wonderful world out
there that has many, many places better than the US.
I have just come back from Athens and Istanbul and
would rather live in Istanbul that any of the US
cities I just named!

I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada yet,
MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!

In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both my
wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated from
Canada. We also have thousands who live in Canada but
work on the US side to get the better pay. The traffic
on our bridge and tunnel is predominately US-bound in
the morning, and Canada-bound at night. Since the Detroit metro area is
one of the largest (the
largest?) directly bordering on Canada, our hospitals
are full of Canadians who are paying for medical
treatments out of their own pockets, that their own
health care system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You
know, silly little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.

Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment, are
outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans going
north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive at a
reasonable price. All the border crossing that I used
had large pharmacies with big carparks a short distance
inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have people pinching pennies,
and on the other we have people who fear they will die without proper
treatment.

Which tells us everything we need to know about the
average American's state of mind.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and rumor, you *need* to know
nothing.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:25:42 GMT, The Doctor <doctor@nospam.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
news:k22bc49ava5cg21d1clmf9jmfl9a8bs872@4ax.com:

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/im

Thank you. May be I can get it from Prime electronics?

If you mean the ATMEGA8515, then apparently not. At least it didn't
show up in a search of their site.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Tom]

Franc Zabkar wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:25:42 GMT, The Doctor <doctor@nospam.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
news:k22bc49ava5cg21d1clmf9jmfl9a8bs872@4ax.com:

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/im
Thank you. May be I can get it from Prime electronics?

If you mean the ATMEGA8515, then apparently not. At least it didn't
show up in a search of their site.

Jaycar seems to stock them.

Tom

 

[Keithr]

Davo wrote:

Keithr wrote:
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b7a3fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a disadvantage.
I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to Perth. Then
again flying from LA to Boston, you pass over a lot of uninhabited
country. Like us, the yanks tend to cluster into the more
desirable real estate.


Keith
Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is another 700K
in the next million! So the trend is here as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the sixties. So
you were either an Aboriginal field officer or a tech at the
tracking station? I would bet the later.

Cheers TT
Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great place if you
like isolation and being bossed around by Wilson Tuckey who owned
the Port Hotel and was the Shire Chairman. I think that it was
summed up by the couple that parked along side me at the jetty on
day, the wife took a look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody
miles for this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands, unfortunately
that didn't last long as it soon became obvious that there was
something of a gap between what they paid me and a living wage in
Perth at the time (and there were artistic differences with the
professor). So it was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera,
got me a near new car and the deposit for a house. Another 3.5 years
as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally) taught myself to fix
computers and I have been in the computer industry ever since.

LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as "Treckie". It
made more sense the second time though. It did conjure up some
interesting scenarios of why a "Treckie" was in Carnarvon though )

As far as the locals were concerned we may as well have been beamed
down. We formed a definite subculture in a town full of "Interesting"
characters

Keith

I know a guy that worked at Woomera. His name is Tony Bell. After
Woomera he worked as a TV repair man for a while and then moved to
Western Australia to work at Muja Power Station. A very nice guy and
lots of funny stories.

I remember working with a Tony Bell up there. Can't remember too much
about him though, it was a long time ago and a lot of you know what has
gone under the bridge since then.

Keith

 

[Keithr]

TT wrote:

"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48C5D128.1030405@nowhere.com.au...
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:48b7a3fe$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
TT wrote:
"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
The question is whether that is an advantantage or a
disadvantage. I lived
in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to
Perth. Then again flying from LA to Boston, you pass
over a lot of uninhabited country. Like us, the yanks
tend to cluster into the more desirable real estate.


Keith
Perth has 1.5mil people in about 200ml*2 so there is
another 700K in the next million! So the trend is here
as well ;-)

BTW I do sympathise with you being in Carnarvon in the
sixties. So you were either an Aboriginal field
officer or a tech at the tracking station? I would bet
the later.

Cheers TT
Yes I was a trackie there for just over a year. A great
place if you like isolation and being bossed around by
Wilson Tuckey who owned the Port Hotel and was the Shire
Chairman. I think that it was summed up by the couple
that parked along side me at the jetty on day, the wife
took a look and said "You mean we drove 600 bloody miles
for this?".

I left there for a job at the Uni of WA at Nedlands,
unfortunately that didn't last long as it soon became
obvious that there was something of a gap between what
they paid me and a living wage in Perth at the time (and
there were artistic differences with the professor). So
it was back to being a trackie, 2 years in Woomera, got
me a near new car and the deposit for a house. Another
3.5 years as a trackie in Canberra where I (literally)
taught myself to fix computers and I have been in the
computer industry ever since.
LOL ) When I first read "Trackie" I read it as
"Treckie". It made more sense the second time though.
It did conjure up some interesting scenarios of why a
"Treckie" was in Carnarvon though )
As far as the locals were concerned we may as well have
been beamed down. We formed a definite subculture in a
town full of "Interesting" characters

Keith

When I think of Carnarvon even today the image I have is of
the big dish and indigenous people passed out all over the
town with empty flagons and beer bottles scattered around
them. It makes for a very graphic contrast.

Well the dishes weren't that big, ours was only a 30 footer, there were
plenty of empty flagons and bottles around and there were passed out
people of all colours, getting smashed was one of the major recreations
up there. If you went to a party, it was expected that you'd take a slab
with you, and there usually weren't too many unopened bottles left by
morning.

My abiding memory was flying in for the first time, and seeing the sign
on the tin shed that was the "Terminal building" which said "Welcome to
Carnarvon altitude 3 feet"

Keith

 

[Keithr]

Arny Krueger wrote:

"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
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"Keithr" <keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:af5baca6-364a-4258-b9f8-8110b7dd38f6@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com

On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
TT wrote:
Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses for a
change! There is a very big, wonderful world out
there that has many, many places better than the US.
I have just come back from Athens and Istanbul and
would rather live in Istanbul that any of the US
cities I just named!
I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada yet,
MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!
In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both my
wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated from
Canada. We also have thousands who live in Canada but
work on the US side to get the better pay. The traffic
on our bridge and tunnel is predominately US-bound in
the morning, and Canada-bound at night. Since the Detroit metro area is
one of the largest (the
largest?) directly bordering on Canada, our hospitals
are full of Canadians who are paying for medical
treatments out of their own pockets, that their own
health care system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You
know, silly little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.

Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment, are
outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans going
north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive at a
reasonable price. All the border crossing that I used
had large pharmacies with big carparks a short distance
inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have people pinching pennies,
and on the other we have people who fear they will die without proper
treatment.

Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.

Which tells us everything we need to know about the
average American's state of mind.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and rumor, you *need* to know
nothing.

Arnie, I lived in your country for 5.5 years, I have visited it once or
twice a year since I left (I will be back for 3 weeks again in October).
I could have stayed as long as I wished, but I handed back my green card
because, after due consideration, Australia offers a better quality of
life. I base my opinions on direct personal experience not rumour, the
US has much to recommend it, but it is not the perfect paradise that you
and many of your countrymen make out. There are much better places to
live, Australia is one of them.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Keithr wrote:

Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.

My test strips, meter and diabetes drugs are zero cost. A lot of US
citizens qualify for free help controlling diabetes, to avoid other
medical costs.

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[Keithr]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Keithr wrote:
Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.


My test strips, meter and diabetes drugs are zero cost. A lot of US
citizens qualify for free help controlling diabetes, to avoid other
medical costs.

A lot but not all, what qualification do you need to qualify? Is such
help available for other diseases?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Keithr wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Keithr wrote:
Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.


My test strips, meter and diabetes drugs are zero cost. A lot of US
citizens qualify for free help controlling diabetes, to avoid other
medical costs.

A lot but not all, what qualification do you need to qualify? Is such
help available for other diseases?

In my case, anything except dental care is free. The first step is
to go to the local pubic health agency and ask for help, for others. My
health care is provided by our Veteran's Administration. A lot of
people whine and complain, but can't be bothered to follow the rules.
If they qualify, they are entered into the Federal Medicaid system, or
the system run by their state. If they are retirement age, they can
qualify for Medicare.

Some do fall through the cracks, and others who don't qualify get
help they don't deserve, but the system has changed a lot in the last 15
years.

I have been trading e-mail with a volunteer group in Australia to
help them understand the differences in our two systems of Veteran's
health care. Some differences are minor, while others are night & day.
The one that really shocked them was that a US Veteran can refill their
prescriptions online, while their Veterans have to go see their doctor
each time for a new prescription.


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Arny Krueger wrote:
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
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TT wrote:

Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses for
a change! There is a very big, wonderful world out
there that has many, many places better than the
US. I have just come back from Athens and Istanbul
and would rather live in Istanbul that any of the
US cities I just named!

I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada
yet, MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!

In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both my
wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated from
Canada. We also have thousands who live in Canada but
work on the US side to get the better pay. The traffic
on our bridge and tunnel is predominately US-bound in
the morning, and Canada-bound at night. Since the
Detroit metro area is one of the largest (the
largest?) directly bordering on Canada, our hospitals
are full of Canadians who are paying for medical
treatments out of their own pockets, that their own
health care system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You
know, silly little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.

Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment, are
outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans going
north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive at a
reasonable price. All the border crossing that I used
had large pharmacies with big carparks a short distance
inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have people
pinching pennies, and on the other we have people who
fear they will die without proper treatment.

Piching pennies?

No, pinching pennies.

Many people need drugs in order to live,
I have diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood
sugar testing supplies, my life would be shortened
considerably.

Your own words make my point. Operations like heart bypass often don't
merely shorten your life considerably, they can kill you outright, and any
time now.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and
rumor, you *need* to know nothing.

Arnie, I lived in your country for 5.5 years, I have
visited it once or twice a year since I left (I will be
back for 3 weeks again in October). I could have stayed
as long as I wished, but I handed back my green card
because, after due consideration, Australia offers a
better quality of life.

That's a choice you get to make. Take a look at the relative migration
patterns between the two countries and one immediately sees that you're the
odd man out. But many of us already knew that! :-(

BTW, ditto for Canada, Mexico, and Europe.

If the US is such a bad place, why do so many millions of people want to
move here?

 

[Mr.T]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The one that really shocked them was that a US Veteran can refill their
prescriptions online, while their Veterans have to go see their doctor
each time for a new prescription.

Yeah, continually filling drug prescriptions without regular assessment of
the affects, is real penny pinching.
Since our vets pay nothing for those regular health check's, obviously they
are far better off.

MrT.