PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Keithr]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Keithr wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Keithr wrote:
Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.

My test strips, meter and diabetes drugs are zero cost. A lot of US
citizens qualify for free help controlling diabetes, to avoid other
medical costs.
A lot but not all, what qualification do you need to qualify? Is such
help available for other diseases?

There are problems with making things actually zero cost. The healthcare
system in the UK did that and got overwhelmed with people wanting
trivial things just because they are free. I pay 50c for test strips,
needles are actually free, 4 months supply of insulin costs me $5. This
would change if I was on a pension.

In my case, anything except dental care is free. The first step is
to go to the local pubic health agency and ask for help, for others. My
health care is provided by our Veteran's Administration. A lot of
people whine and complain, but can't be bothered to follow the rules.
If they qualify, they are entered into the Federal Medicaid system, or
the system run by their state. If they are retirement age, they can
qualify for Medicare.

Being a vet makes a big difference, many of the people that I worked
with in the US were worried how they were going to pay their medical
bills when they retired. These were middle class professionals too not
minimum wage workers.

Some do fall through the cracks, and others who don't qualify get
help they don't deserve, but the system has changed a lot in the last 15
years.

I have been trading e-mail with a volunteer group in Australia to
help them understand the differences in our two systems of Veteran's
health care. Some differences are minor, while others are night & day.
The one that really shocked them was that a US Veteran can refill their
prescriptions online, while their Veterans have to go see their doctor
each time for a new prescription.

I did like it that I could ring my health centre and they would get my
doctor to fax a new prescription straight to the pharmacy. I have an
arrangement with my doctor that he will write me a new prescription
without seeing me, but I have to pick it up from the surgery and he
charges me $5 to do so. It doesn't happen very often though as I see him
every 6 months anyway and my prescription usually lasts that long.

Are you type 1 or 2? I have known that I am type 2 for the last 14
years, god knows how long before that I actually had it, no secondary
effects though, my circulation is excellent and my eyes are unaffected
so far.

 

[Keithr]

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On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
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TT wrote:

Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses for
a change! There is a very big, wonderful world out
there that has many, many places better than the
US. I have just come back from Athens and Istanbul
and would rather live in Istanbul that any of the
US cities I just named!

I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada
yet, MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!

In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both my
wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated from
Canada. We also have thousands who live in Canada but
work on the US side to get the better pay. The traffic
on our bridge and tunnel is predominately US-bound in
the morning, and Canada-bound at night. Since the
Detroit metro area is one of the largest (the
largest?) directly bordering on Canada, our hospitals
are full of Canadians who are paying for medical
treatments out of their own pockets, that their own
health care system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You
know, silly little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.
Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment, are
outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans going
north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive at a
reasonable price. All the border crossing that I used
had large pharmacies with big carparks a short distance
inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have people
pinching pennies, and on the other we have people who
fear they will die without proper treatment.

Piching pennies?

No, pinching pennies.

Many people need drugs in order to live,
I have diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood
sugar testing supplies, my life would be shortened
considerably.

Your own words make my point. Operations like heart bypass often don't
merely shorten your life considerably, they can kill you outright, and any
time now.

People who need a heart bypass operation need it there and then, they
don't have time to go shopping for one in another country. I did hear
that some US HMOs are sending people who need less urgent operations to
asia as a cost cutting exercise, perhaps that says something.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and
rumor, you *need* to know nothing.

Arnie, I lived in your country for 5.5 years, I have
visited it once or twice a year since I left (I will be
back for 3 weeks again in October). I could have stayed
as long as I wished, but I handed back my green card
because, after due consideration, Australia offers a
better quality of life.

That's a choice you get to make. Take a look at the relative migration
patterns between the two countries and one immediately sees that you're the
odd man out. But many of us already knew that! :-(

Not many Australians migrate to the US, and when I handed back my green
card at the US consulate in Sydney, the official told me that more
Australians give up their green cards than any other country. Perhaps
that says something about our countries, Austalians are prepared to go
out there and give it a try, but then they see that it is better at home.

BTW, ditto for Canada, Mexico, and Europe.

Europeans and Canadians aren't hammering your door down to get into the
US, it is third world countries like Mexico that people are desperate to
get out of (understandably). Just go to the Dept of Immigration web site
and look at the green card waiting times to see where the numbers are
coming from. It took me less than 3 years to get mine, so there weren't
many Australians in the queue.

If the US is such a bad place, why do so many millions of people want to
move here?

Millions don't. The US is not a bad place (although many of it's foreign
policies are) it is though a massively overhyped place, and you and many
of your countrymen unfortunately believe your own hype.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"Mr.T" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The one that really shocked them was that a US Veteran can refill their
prescriptions online, while their Veterans have to go see their doctor
each time for a new prescription.

Yeah, continually filling drug prescriptions without regular assessment of
the affects, is real penny pinching.
Since our vets pay nothing for those regular health check's, obviously they
are far better off.

Sigh. So much ignorance in one message.

We see the doctors on schedule. Usually every 90 or 180 days, unless
you are in very bad health. We have access to our docotors any time we
need them. I have never been turned away, like three months ago, when I
lost my eyesight from a palsy. I saw MY doctor within an hour, was sent
to the emergency room atthe VA hopital, and had three followups. The
vision is returning, but it will be three more months before they decid
if it's completly healed, or needs surgery. I have seen over a dozen
docotors on this problem, including the head of the Othomology
department. Some prescriptions don't need to change every 30 days, like
dibeties medicne, or high blood pressure. Why would you need to see the
doctor for more test strips for a BG meter? The provde you with a BG
meter, if you're diabetic, along with all the supplies, and a blood
pressure eter if you are on BP medicine. It doesn't cot our vets to see
their docotrs, either.

Why do you have to show your ass and make your country look bad at
every turn? 99% or more are great people, so there is no call for it.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Keithr wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Keithr wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Keithr wrote:
Piching pennies? Many people need drugs in order to live, I have
diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood sugar testing
supplies, my life would be shortened considerably. Here in Australia, it
costs me about $10 per month, when I lived in the US, it cost about the
same but only because my employer picked up the tab for pharmacutical
insurance. Those who cannot afford the insurance would be paying several
hundred dollars a month for those supplies. The Canadian government was
prepared to stand up to big pharma to get a better deal for it's
citizens, the US government obviously lacks the balls to do so.

My test strips, meter and diabetes drugs are zero cost. A lot of US
citizens qualify for free help controlling diabetes, to avoid other
medical costs.
A lot but not all, what qualification do you need to qualify? Is such
help available for other diseases?

There are problems with making things actually zero cost. The healthcare
system in the UK did that and got overwhelmed with people wanting
trivial things just because they are free. I pay 50c for test strips,
needles are actually free, 4 months supply of insulin costs me $5. This
would change if I was on a pension.

I am on a 100% disability pension. Other veterans pay a small co-pay
fee for a prescription. Most are for a 90 day supply. Smaller amounts
are only for limited applications, like antibiotics.

In my case, anything except dental care is free. The first step is
to go to the local pubic health agency and ask for help, for others. My
health care is provided by our Veteran's Administration. A lot of
people whine and complain, but can't be bothered to follow the rules.
If they qualify, they are entered into the Federal Medicaid system, or
the system run by their state. If they are retirement age, they can
qualify for Medicare.

Being a vet makes a big difference, many of the people that I worked
with in the US were worried how they were going to pay their medical
bills when they retired. These were middle class professionals too not
minimum wage workers.

My dad & stepmom fall in that class but they have Medicare, and some
private insurance that covers all but about $1000 a year.

Some do fall through the cracks, and others who don't qualify get
help they don't deserve, but the system has changed a lot in the last 15
years.

I have been trading e-mail with a volunteer group in Australia to
help them understand the differences in our two systems of Veteran's
health care. Some differences are minor, while others are night & day.
The one that really shocked them was that a US Veteran can refill their
prescriptions online, while their Veterans have to go see their doctor
each time for a new prescription.

I did like it that I could ring my health centre and they would get my
doctor to fax a new prescription straight to the pharmacy. I have an
arrangement with my doctor that he will write me a new prescription
without seeing me, but I have to pick it up from the surgery and he
charges me $5 to do so. It doesn't happen very often though as I see him
every 6 months anyway and my prescription usually lasts that long.

Most VA prescriptions are for 360 days, in four 90 day fills, but
they are reviewed every time you see your doctor. All the medical
records are in the VA's database so if you are away from home, any VA
clinic or hospital has immediate access to your records and
prescriptions. All you need is you VA ID card for refills or treatment.
This eliminates transcription errors and misfiled records.

Are you type 1 or 2? I have known that I am type 2 for the last 14
years, god knows how long before that I actually had it, no secondary
effects though, my circulation is excellent and my eyes are unaffected
so far.

Type 2. It has run in my dad's side of the family for at least four
generations.


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On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:

TT wrote:

Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses
for a change! There is a very big, wonderful
world out there that has many, many places
better than the US. I have just come back from
Athens and Istanbul and would rather live in
Istanbul that any of the US cities I just named!

I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada
yet, MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!

In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both
my wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated
from Canada. We also have thousands who live in
Canada but work on the US side to get the better
pay. The traffic on our bridge and tunnel is
predominately US-bound in the morning, and
Canada-bound at night. Since the Detroit metro area
is one of the largest (the largest?) directly
bordering on Canada, our hospitals are full of
Canadians who are paying for medical treatments out
of their own pockets, that their own health care
system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You know, silly
little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.
Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment,
are outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans
going north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive
at a reasonable price. All the border crossing that
I used had large pharmacies with big carparks a
short distance inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have
people pinching pennies, and on the other we have
people who fear they will die without proper treatment.

Piching pennies?

No, pinching pennies.

Many people need drugs in order to live,
I have diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood
sugar testing supplies, my life would be shortened
considerably.

Your own words make my point. Operations like heart
bypass often don't merely shorten your life
considerably, they can kill you outright, and any time
now.

People who need a heart bypass operation need it there
and then, they don't have time to go shopping for one in
another country.

Tell that to the Canadians who are currently in a Detroit hospital, paying
their own way.

I did hear that some US HMOs are sending
people who need less urgent operations to asia as a cost
cutting exercise, perhaps that says something.

You Aussies really have a bed inferiority complex, to circulate rumors like
that among yourselves.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and
rumor, you *need* to know nothing.

Arnie, I lived in your country for 5.5 years, I have
visited it once or twice a year since I left (I will be
back for 3 weeks again in October). I could have stayed
as long as I wished, but I handed back my green card
because, after due consideration, Australia offers a
better quality of life.

That's a choice you get to make. Take a look at the
relative migration patterns between the two countries
and one immediately sees that you're the odd man out. But many of us
already knew that! :-(

Not many Australians migrate to the US,

No numbers or references provided so of course you're talking out of the
back of your neck.

and when I handed
back my green card at the US consulate in Sydney, the
official told me that more Australians give up their
green cards than any other country.

Meaningless anecdote.

Perhaps that says
something about our countries, Austalians are prepared to
go out there and give it a try, but then they see that it
is better at home.

Meaningless anecdote.

BTW, ditto for Canada, Mexico, and Europe.

Europeans and Canadians aren't hammering your door down
to get into the US,

About a quarter of a million Europeans and maybe 100,000 Canadians are
naturalized as citizens every year:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/natz_fr_07.pdf

Additionally, about 100,000 each permenant residents from Canada and Europe:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf

If the US is such a bad place, why do so many millions
of people want to move here?

Millions don't.

My references say otherwise. About 2 million between new citizens and
permanent resident aliens.

The US is not a bad place (although many
of it's foreign policies are) it is though a massively
overhyped place, and you and many of your countrymen
unfortunately believe your own hype.

Try doing your homework before you shoot of your mouth again, Keith. You've
just forced me to correct you and thus cause you to hate me even more.

 

[The Doctor]

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Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:25:42 GMT, The Doctor <doctor@nospam.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
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http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/im
Thank you. May be I can get it from Prime electronics?

If you mean the ATMEGA8515, then apparently not. At least it didn't
show up in a search of their site.

Jaycar seems to stock them.

Yeah, I saw them in Jaycar's catalog for $65. A bit expensive. I rang
them
asking if I can just buy the board but they say no. I thought may be I
can
get some of the components from an old P3 (no longer works). The kit has
a few things like infrared remote controls that I don't really need.
The main thing is how I can implement the finite-state engine to
get the CD ROM playing the CD. I also have an old (APPLE ][+) power
supply that I can just plug into the power input socket of the CD ROM.

 

[Keithr]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Are you type 1 or 2? I have known that I am type 2 for the last 14
years, god knows how long before that I actually had it, no secondary
effects though, my circulation is excellent and my eyes are unaffected
so far.


Type 2. It has run in my dad's side of the family for at least four
generations.

Mine came out of the blue, no family history, not even overweight. I did
have a sweet tooth though, maybe it is payback by the fates for that.

One of my grandsons got type 1 at age 14 we have no idea where that came
from either.

Keith

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Keithr wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Are you type 1 or 2? I have known that I am type 2 for the last 14
years, god knows how long before that I actually had it, no secondary
effects though, my circulation is excellent and my eyes are unaffected
so far.


Type 2. It has run in my dad's side of the family for at least four
generations.

Mine came out of the blue, no family history, not even overweight. I did
have a sweet tooth though, maybe it is payback by the fates for that.

The only time I had a sweet tooth was just before a tooth needed
pulled. I didn't use sugar in the meals I fixed, and ate very little ice
cream or other deserts. OTOH, I had a problem with low level infections
my whole life, which may have made me more susceptible.

One of my grandsons got type 1 at age 14 we have no idea where that came
from either.

Type one is supposed to be genetic, and can skip multiple generations
but they are still doing research. Who knows if they will ever figure
out the real causes?


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Sigh. So much ignorance in one message.

Reading what you wrote, I couldn't agree more.

We see the doctors on schedule. Usually every 90 or 180 days, unless
you are in very bad health.

And since our prescriptions come with repeats, the doctor will cover you
until the next visit, unless he thinks you need more regular attention, or
is trying to gouge you. Most doctors here are busy enough not to even want
to create unnecessary visits.

We have access to our docotors any time we
need them. I have never been turned away, like three months ago, when I
lost my eyesight from a palsy. I saw MY doctor within an hour, was sent
to the emergency room atthe VA hopital, and had three followups. The
vision is returning, but it will be three more months before they decid
if it's completly healed, or needs surgery. I have seen over a dozen
docotors on this problem, including the head of the Othomology
department.

So actually seeing a doctor is important to you then. What was the point of
your argument again?

Some prescriptions don't need to change every 30 days, like
dibeties medicne, or high blood pressure.

Which is why our prescriptions come with multiple repeats where necessary.
Up to six months is not uncommon before a further doctors visit is
necessary.

Why do you have to show your ass and make your country look bad at
every turn? 99% or more are great people, so there is no call for it.

I wish I could say the same about you.

MrT.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"Mr.T" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Sigh. So much ignorance in one message.

Reading what you wrote, I couldn't agree more.

We see the doctors on schedule. Usually every 90 or 180 days, unless
you are in very bad health.

And since our prescriptions come with repeats, the doctor will cover you
until the next visit, unless he thinks you need more regular attention, or
is trying to gouge you. Most doctors here are busy enough not to even want
to create unnecessary visits.

Do you think our VA doctors have time to waste? It rakes less than a
minute for them to review & update your prescriptions, for up to a year
at each visit. You don't have to go to a drug store and wait, or make
multiple trips. The regional distribution centers are well run, and
rarely run out of any medication or supplies. It not only saves them
money, it provides full time jobs for Veterans with partial disability.

We have access to our docotors any time we
need them. I have never been turned away, like three months ago, when I
lost my eyesight from a palsy. I saw MY doctor within an hour, was sent
to the emergency room atthe VA hopital, and had three followups. The
vision is returning, but it will be three more months before they decid
if it's completly healed, or needs surgery. I have seen over a dozen
docotors on this problem, including the head of the Othomology
department.

So actually seeing a doctor is important to you then. What was the point of
your argument again?

What is your point? I have stated the facts, multiple times, but you
continue to challenge them. I see the doctors whenever I need.

Some prescriptions don't need to change every 30 days, like
dibeties medicne, or high blood pressure.

Which is why our prescriptions come with multiple repeats where necessary.
Up to six months is not uncommon before a further doctors visit is
necessary.

You just don't get it. I get the refills without leaving my house. I
log in, click the refills I need from the available items two weeks in
advance, and they are delivered to my door by the US mail system.

Why do you have to show your ass and make your country look bad at
every turn? 99% or more are great people, so there is no call for it.

I wish I could say the same about you.

Who cares? All you want to do is argue, anyway. You have a chip on
your shoulder, and your bias is obvious.


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We see the doctors on schedule. Usually every 90 or 180 days,
unless
you are in very bad health.

And since our prescriptions come with repeats, the doctor will cover you
until the next visit, unless he thinks you need more regular attention,
or
is trying to gouge you. Most doctors here are busy enough not to even
want
to create unnecessary visits.

Do you think our VA doctors have time to waste?

Read what I wrote, not what you want to make up. Or is comprehension a
problem for you?

It rakes less than a
minute for them to review & update your prescriptions, for up to a year
at each visit.

Not much different than here then. What is your point exactly?

You don't have to go to a drug store and wait, or make
multiple trips.

Nor here. We do have on-line pharmacies for those who prefer them. You are
just proving your ignorance of what occurrs in other countries, so why
bother continuing the argument?

So actually seeing a doctor is important to you then. What was the point
of
your argument again?

What is your point? I have stated the facts, multiple times, but you
continue to challenge them.

Not me, YOU are the one claiming the USA system is somehow better than
another of which you continually prove you have no knowledge at all.

I see the doctors whenever I need.

So do all aussies, NOT just veterans or those with company provided health
care.

Some prescriptions don't need to change every 30 days, like
dibeties medicne, or high blood pressure.

Which is why our prescriptions come with multiple repeats where
necessary.
Up to six months is not uncommon before a further doctors visit is
necessary.


You just don't get it. I get the refills without leaving my house. I
log in, click the refills I need from the available items two weeks in
advance, and they are delivered to my door by the US mail system.

Which you could do in Australia for up to a year, depending on your doctor.
After a year you would need to see a doctor for free to get another
prescription and make sure it is still appropriate.
How exactly is that a HUGE imposition?

Ask the low income non-vets without health care in the USA what they think
though. I bet their opinion is different to yours.

All you want to do is argue, anyway. You have a chip on
your shoulder, and your bias is obvious.

No, that would be YOU.
You are biased against a system you have proven you have no knowledge of.
As for me, I realise there are better systems than in either USA or
Australia.

MrT.

 

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On Aug 29, 12:31 pm, Eeyore
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TT wrote:

Here is some more good advice Arny, actually take
your head out of your arse and smell the roses
for a change! There is a very big, wonderful
world out there that has many, many places
better than the US. I have just come back from
Athens and Istanbul and would rather live in
Istanbul that any of the US cities I just named!

I don't know why the yanks haven't invaded Canada
yet, MUCH better lifestyle north of the border!

In fact millions of Canadians have emigrated to the
U.S. because they prefer the life style here. Both
my wife and my daughter in law's families emigrated
from Canada. We also have thousands who live in
Canada but work on the US side to get the better
pay. The traffic on our bridge and tunnel is
predominately US-bound in the morning, and
Canada-bound at night. Since the Detroit metro area
is one of the largest (the largest?) directly
bordering on Canada, our hospitals are full of
Canadians who are paying for medical treatments out
of their own pockets, that their own health care
system has, errr, "de-prioritized". You know, silly
little things like heart surgery, cancer
treatments, and the like.
Of course, any Canadians going south for treatment,
are outnumbered by the busloads of elderly Americans
going north to buy the drugs they need to stay alive
at a reasonable price. All the border crossing that
I used had large pharmacies with big carparks a
short distance inside Canada.

Hardly the same priority. On the one hand we have
people pinching pennies, and on the other we have
people who fear they will die without proper treatment.

Piching pennies?

No, pinching pennies.

Many people need drugs in order to live,
I have diabetese, without insulin, some pills, and blood
sugar testing supplies, my life would be shortened
considerably.

Your own words make my point. Operations like heart
bypass often don't merely shorten your life
considerably, they can kill you outright, and any time
now.

People who need a heart bypass operation need it there
and then, they don't have time to go shopping for one in
another country.

Tell that to the Canadians who are currently in a Detroit hospital, paying
their own way.

I did hear that some US HMOs are sending
people who need less urgent operations to asia as a cost
cutting exercise, perhaps that says something.

You Aussies really have a bed inferiority complex, to circulate rumors
like that among yourselves.

Since your opinons are 100% based on prejudice and
rumor, you *need* to know nothing.

Arnie, I lived in your country for 5.5 years, I have
visited it once or twice a year since I left (I will be
back for 3 weeks again in October). I could have stayed
as long as I wished, but I handed back my green card
because, after due consideration, Australia offers a
better quality of life.

That's a choice you get to make. Take a look at the
relative migration patterns between the two countries
and one immediately sees that you're the odd man out. But many of us
already knew that! :-(

Not many Australians migrate to the US,

No numbers or references provided so of course you're talking out of the
back of your neck.

and when I handed
back my green card at the US consulate in Sydney, the
official told me that more Australians give up their
green cards than any other country.

Meaningless anecdote.

Perhaps that says
something about our countries, Austalians are prepared to
go out there and give it a try, but then they see that it
is better at home.

Meaningless anecdote.

BTW, ditto for Canada, Mexico, and Europe.

Europeans and Canadians aren't hammering your door down
to get into the US,

About a quarter of a million Europeans and maybe 100,000 Canadians are
naturalized as citizens every year:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/natz_fr_07.pdf

Additionally, about 100,000 each permenant residents from Canada and
Europe:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf


If the US is such a bad place, why do so many millions
of people want to move here?

Millions don't.

My references say otherwise. About 2 million between new citizens and
permanent resident aliens.


The US is not a bad place (although many
of it's foreign policies are) it is though a massively
overhyped place, and you and many of your countrymen
unfortunately believe your own hype.

Try doing your homework before you shoot of your mouth again, Keith.
You've just forced me to correct you and thus cause you to hate me even
more.

And there you have it. Arnie the masochist just LOVES to be hated. It's the
only reason he bothers to post to newsgroups, safe in the knowledge that he
has wrested the title as the most obnoxious person on Usenet from Phil
Allison, and is likely to hold the 'trophy' for the forseeable future.
What a truly enviable title to own. Not!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"Mr.T" wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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We see the doctors on schedule. Usually every 90 or 180 days,
unless
you are in very bad health.

And since our prescriptions come with repeats, the doctor will cover you
until the next visit, unless he thinks you need more regular attention,
or
is trying to gouge you. Most doctors here are busy enough not to even
want
to create unnecessary visits.

Do you think our VA doctors have time to waste?

Read what I wrote, not what you want to make up. Or is comprehension a
problem for you?

It rakes less than a
minute for them to review & update your prescriptions, for up to a year
at each visit.

Not much different than here then. What is your point exactly?

You don't have to go to a drug store and wait, or make
multiple trips.

Nor here. We do have on-line pharmacies for those who prefer them. You are
just proving your ignorance of what occurrs in other countries, so why
bother continuing the argument?

So actually seeing a doctor is important to you then. What was the point
of
your argument again?

What is your point? I have stated the facts, multiple times, but you
continue to challenge them.

Not me, YOU are the one claiming the USA system is somehow better than
another of which you continually prove you have no knowledge at all.

I see the doctors whenever I need.

So do all aussies, NOT just veterans or those with company provided health
care.

Some prescriptions don't need to change every 30 days, like
dibeties medicne, or high blood pressure.

Which is why our prescriptions come with multiple repeats where
necessary.
Up to six months is not uncommon before a further doctors visit is
necessary.


You just don't get it. I get the refills without leaving my house. I
log in, click the refills I need from the available items two weeks in
advance, and they are delivered to my door by the US mail system.

Which you could do in Australia for up to a year, depending on your doctor.
After a year you would need to see a doctor for free to get another
prescription and make sure it is still appropriate.
How exactly is that a HUGE imposition?

Only you say it is. I've already told you that you see your primary
care provider twice a year, minimum. You are trying to separate fly
shit from ground pepper. You are trying to find things that you can't.

Ask the low income non-vets without health care in the USA what they think
though. I bet their opinion is different to yours.

I was one of them. It took a couple weeks to apply and be in the
system. It takes a little time to process the paperwork to make sure you
rally served.

All they have top do is apply for a VA medical card. medical care is
free for any Veteran that can't afford other medical care. I don't ask
them, I tell them to take their DD-214 to the closest Veterans Service
Officer and they will fill out the form, or they can do it online or by
mail.

https://www.1010ez.med.va.gov/sec/vha/1010ez/

All you want to do is argue, anyway. You have a chip on
your shoulder, and your bias is obvious.

No, that would be YOU.
You are biased against a system you have proven you have no knowledge of.
As for me, I realise there are better systems than in either USA or
Australia.

Where are these systems? What PERSONAL experience do you have with
them? I never claimed better, I was trying to explain the differences.
All I have to go on about the Australian system is what the director of
the Geelong Veterans Welfare Centre http://www.geelongvets.org.au/ has
told me in multiple email exchanges. A lot of things are handled in
the same way, and some are the exact opposite. She is working her way
through the US VA website, and the DAV website after I gave her the
link. She said that liked the way we handle the prescriptions because
everything goes through one place, and there isn't a mountain of
paperwork to track everyone's medicine.

http://www.va.gov/

http://www.dav.org/

Our system is one source, vs multiple medical agencies. This was
demanded by disabled US Veterans when they had to deal with three
federal government agencies after WW-I. It took a long time to get
everything consolidated into a single program. What grew into the DAV
was the driving force behind this.

I was told by the Geelong Veterans Welfare Centre, that the Australian
Veterans wanted to choose whatever doctor they wanted, instead of the US
system that is tailored to treat the disabled and elderly Veterans.
It's their choice, vs ours. You just keep drooling and ranting for no
reason You don't want to listen, you just want to argue. Are you
telling me they are wrong?


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Only you say it is. I've already told you that you see your primary
care provider twice a year, minimum.

And you're still wrong. Repeats can go for up to a year maximum. Sure six
months is common, but it's free for all and hardly the impostion you
claimed.
Just why are you so hung up on this issue I wonder. Does it really make you
feel better even IF you were actually correct?

You are trying to separate fly
shit from ground pepper. You are trying to find things that you can't.

Trying to get actual sense/facts from you? I couldn't agree more.

Ask the low income non-vets without health care in the USA what they
think
though. I bet their opinion is different to yours.

I was one of them. It took a couple weeks to apply and be in the
system. It takes a little time to process the paperwork to make sure you
rally served.

All they have top do is apply for a VA medical card. medical care is
free for any Veteran that can't afford other medical care. I don't ask
them, I tell them to take their DD-214 to the closest Veterans Service
Officer and they will fill out the form, or they can do it online or by
mail.

And as I said, thankfully you don't have to be a veteran here.

All I have to go on about the Australian system is what the director of
the Geelong Veterans Welfare Centre http://www.geelongvets.org.au/ has
told me in multiple email exchanges.

So why do you continue to argue from a position of ignorance I wonder?
If you're happy with your system, good luck to you, and good luck that
you're a veteran I guess.
Non-vets are definitely better off here.
But frankly I've had enough, and I don't care what you think any more, or
what your health is.
Something is definitely stuck in your bonnet though

MrT.

 

[C. Dewick]

"fred" <freddy.fudd@optusnet.com.au> writes:

I've been working as a flagman in Vic for the past few yrs and I'm also a
electronics tech.

A recent incident prompted me to start designing a type of torch that uses
LEDs that will change colour at the flick of a switch (red, green, yellow
and white) instead of the silly coloured lenses with velcro that we are
using now.

There are torches comercialy available at the moment that will do this,
but they are not approved for use as they use a rechargable battery that
can't be removed, so if it goes flat half way through a shift you're in
the poo.

I'm told that using a yellow torch/flag when we set up standard protection
is a fairly recent inovation (it used to be a white flag/torch) and is only
done in Victoria. Is that correct?

There are a lot of train crews who now carry tri-colour LED torches.
CityRail bought a large load of them early last year to issue to crews. I
would assume other rail operators are looking at the same sort of thing as
alternative to existing torches that are bulky, chew batteries, and break
easily.

The normal ones are only white/green/red though I suppose it would not be
difficult to come up with a combo including yellow to suit the intended
usage.

Craig.

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On Sep 8, 6:41 am, "aussiblu" <zxaussi...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Yes see Silicon Chip Issue 230 & 231http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_109528/article.html

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Regards
Blue

Remove ZX from email address to reply directly.

Is this not overkill??? Get an older CD ROM drive that
automagically plays the CD and has it's own volume control. Heck some
even have skip forward and reverse. 12 volts and a case you are all
set.
al

 

[The Doctor]

eyezkubed@yahoo.com wrote in
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Is this not overkill??? Get an older CD ROM drive that
automagically plays the CD and has it's own volume control. Heck some
even have skip forward and reverse. 12 volts and a case you are all
set.
al

Yeah but the ones that I have don't automagically play the CD.
Do you know how to make them do that? These ones don't even have play
buttons.

 

[David L. Jones]

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Plus you get out of doing work for a week, and get the free lunches.

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[Clubsprint]

"The Doctor" <doctor@nospam.com> wrote in message
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eyezkubed@yahoo.com wrote in
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Is this not overkill??? Get an older CD ROM drive that
automagically plays the CD and has it's own volume control. Heck some
even have skip forward and reverse. 12 volts and a case you are all
set.
al

Yeah but the ones that I have don't automagically play the CD.
Do you know how to make them do that? These ones don't even have play
buttons.

How To Make The Adaptation

To be used as CD player, the CD-ROM drive doesn't need to be connected to
the computer. This way, it is possible to easily transform a CD-ROM drive
into a Car CD player. Sounds crazy? Not so. With this tutorial you will be
able to have a CD player in your car without spending almost anything.

The CD-ROM drive to be use may be of any type, from the first models ("1x")
until the most modern ones ("60x"). The only prerequisite is that the drive
needs to have is an earphone plug and volume control. And practically all
CD-ROM drives have that.

There are two great advantages in transforming a CD-ROM drive into a Car CD
player. First, who will want to break your car window to take CD-ROM drive?
And, secondly, since any type of CD-ROM drive can be used, you may take an
old drive that is just dusting away in your house (for instance, a 2x drive
from an old 386 computer), which brings the cost down to almost nothing.

To install a CD-ROM drive in the car, you will need a female power plug, to
be used to fit into CD-ROM drive power plug (that plug can be cut from an
old power supply) and a voltage regulating integrated circuit called 7805,
that may be easily found at electronic parts stores. You will also have to
buy a heat dissipator for the 7805 (sold at the same store).

The car battery is a 12 V one, but the CD-ROM drive needs two voltages to
work: 12 V and 5 V. The 7805 circuit is able to convert a 12 V voltage into
5 V (its pin 1 is for the input, its pin 2 is the grounding, and its pin 3
is the 5 V exit). Figure 1 shows the plan for the connection. The grounding
pin should be connected to the wires of the plug grounding and the negative
pole of the car battery, what is done by simply connecting that pin to the
metallic body of the car.



http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u255/Santhosh1/03.jpg

All you have to do is to make the connections shown in the above schematics
(don't forget to isolate all connections with insulating tape) and you are
set: you will have a CD-ROM drive working as CD player in your car.

The audio output will be made using the earphone plug. To listen to a CD,
you will have to use earphones. To have the sound come through the speakers
of the car, you will have to buy an amplifier with RCA inputs and a stereo
P2 (mini jack) x stereo RCA cable (the same type of cable used to connect
Discman units to amplifiers). The stereo P2 plug (also known as mini jack),
which is the one used for the earphones, should be fit at the earphone
output of the CD-ROM drive, while the RCA plugs should be fit at the input
of the amplifier. The volume control will be made using the volume control
in the CD-ROM drive.

A last warning: in most CD-ROM drives, the reproduction button (play) and
the advance button (skip) are on the same key. In other words, to skip a
track, all you have to do is to press the play button.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can the CD-ROM drive in use as a car CD player reproduce MP3 files?

No. If not connected to a computer, the CD-ROM drive will only work to play
audio CDs. Music CDs in the MP3 format are recorded in the CD-ROM format. To
read it, the unit forcibly needs to be connected to a computer. MP3 songs
are not played by the CD-ROM drive, but rather by the sound card of the
computer, and the machine processor is responsible for transforming the MP3
format into an audio format. Car CD players that play MP3 have a dedicated
processor capable of reading the CD-ROM format and of converting MP3 files
into audio ones. Since the common CD-ROM drive doesn't have such processor,
it can not play MP3 files.

Can the same adaptation be made so CDs may be played in a domestic sound
system?

Yes. To do so, the sound system must have an auxiliary input channel.
However, to prevent the sound from getting distorted, you will have to use
the audio output at the back of the CD-ROM drive and nor the earphone
output, as mentioned last week. To do this, you will have to take the audio
output cable from the CD-ROM drive and solder two RCA plugs - a black or
white one (left channel) and a red or yellow one (right channel) - at the
end that should be connected to the sound card of the computer. If you don't
know how to do that, contact an electronics technician. To feed the CD-ROM
drive you may use a power source from an old PC. One important detail: AT
power sources have an on-off switch, but the ATX ones don't. If you will use
an ATX power source, you will have to make a pin-14 connection (green wire),
from the main plug of the source to any black wire to turn it on.

Won't the CD oscillate too much?

That will depend on the unit used (its manufacturer and model). Of course
you cannot expect a CD-ROM drive to have the same stability of a car CD
player. Remember that our tip is to assemble a car CD player spending
nothing (or almost nothing). If you used our tip it is because you are
possibly not willing to buy a car CD player.

Why should the connection between the CD-ROM unit and the amplifier be made
using the ear phone output and not the one at the back of the unit?

That is because car amplifiers don't usually have volume control. If you use
the output at the back of the CD-ROM drive - which doesn't have volume
control either - the sound from the amplifier will always be at its loudest.
We believe that this is not convenient. If you should use the output at the
back of the CD-ROM drive only if you are to connect it to a pre-amplifier,
equalizer, mixer, or home sound system, since they have volume control.

Source: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/71

 

[Clubsprint]

"The Doctor" <doctor@nospam.com> wrote in message
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eyezkubed@yahoo.com wrote in
news:b943e2e7-2f05-4666-bcab-2332627f9499@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:


Is this not overkill??? Get an older CD ROM drive that
automagically plays the CD and has it's own volume control. Heck some
even have skip forward and reverse. 12 volts and a case you are all
set.
al

Yeah but the ones that I have don't automagically play the CD.
Do you know how to make them do that? These ones don't even have play
buttons.

How To Make The Adaptation

To be used as CD player, the CD-ROM drive doesn't need to be connected to
the computer. This way, it is possible to easily transform a CD-ROM drive
into a Car CD player. Sounds crazy? Not so. With this tutorial you will be
able to have a CD player in your car without spending almost anything.

The CD-ROM drive to be use may be of any type, from the first models ("1x")
until the most modern ones ("60x"). The only prerequisite is that the drive
needs to have is an earphone plug and volume control. And practically all
CD-ROM drives have that.

There are two great advantages in transforming a CD-ROM drive into a Car CD
player. First, who will want to break your car window to take CD-ROM drive?
And, secondly, since any type of CD-ROM drive can be used, you may take an
old drive that is just dusting away in your house (for instance, a 2x drive
from an old 386 computer), which brings the cost down to almost nothing.

To install a CD-ROM drive in the car, you will need a female power plug, to
be used to fit into CD-ROM drive power plug (that plug can be cut from an
old power supply) and a voltage regulating integrated circuit called 7805,
that may be easily found at electronic parts stores. You will also have to
buy a heat dissipator for the 7805 (sold at the same store).

The car battery is a 12 V one, but the CD-ROM drive needs two voltages to
work: 12 V and 5 V. The 7805 circuit is able to convert a 12 V voltage into
5 V (its pin 1 is for the input, its pin 2 is the grounding, and its pin 3
is the 5 V exit). Figure 1 shows the plan for the connection. The grounding
pin should be connected to the wires of the plug grounding and the negative
pole of the car battery, what is done by simply connecting that pin to the
metallic body of the car.



All you have to do is to make the connections shown in the above schematics
(don't forget to isolate all connections with insulating tape) and you are
set: you will have a CD-ROM drive working as CD player in your car.

The audio output will be made using the earphone plug. To listen to a CD,
you will have to use earphones. To have the sound come through the speakers
of the car, you will have to buy an amplifier with RCA inputs and a stereo
P2 (mini jack) x stereo RCA cable (the same type of cable used to connect
Discman units to amplifiers). The stereo P2 plug (also known as mini jack),
which is the one used for the earphones, should be fit at the earphone
output of the CD-ROM drive, while the RCA plugs should be fit at the input
of the amplifier. The volume control will be made using the volume control
in the CD-ROM drive.

A last warning: in most CD-ROM drives, the reproduction button (play) and
the advance button (skip) are on the same key. In other words, to skip a
track, all you have to do is to press the play button.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can the CD-ROM drive in use as a car CD player reproduce MP3 files?

No. If not connected to a computer, the CD-ROM drive will only work to play
audio CDs. Music CDs in the MP3 format are recorded in the CD-ROM format. To
read it, the unit forcibly needs to be connected to a computer. MP3 songs
are not played by the CD-ROM drive, but rather by the sound card of the
computer, and the machine processor is responsible for transforming the MP3
format into an audio format. Car CD players that play MP3 have a dedicated
processor capable of reading the CD-ROM format and of converting MP3 files
into audio ones. Since the common CD-ROM drive doesn't have such processor,
it can not play MP3 files.

Can the same adaptation be made so CDs may be played in a domestic sound
system?

Yes. To do so, the sound system must have an auxiliary input channel.
However, to prevent the sound from getting distorted, you will have to use
the audio output at the back of the CD-ROM drive and nor the earphone
output, as mentioned last week. To do this, you will have to take the audio
output cable from the CD-ROM drive and solder two RCA plugs - a black or
white one (left channel) and a red or yellow one (right channel) - at the
end that should be connected to the sound card of the computer. If you don't
know how to do that, contact an electronics technician. To feed the CD-ROM
drive you may use a power source from an old PC. One important detail: AT
power sources have an on-off switch, but the ATX ones don't. If you will use
an ATX power source, you will have to make a pin-14 connection (green wire),
from the main plug of the source to any black wire to turn it on.

Won't the CD oscillate too much?

That will depend on the unit used (its manufacturer and model). Of course
you cannot expect a CD-ROM drive to have the same stability of a car CD
player. Remember that our tip is to assemble a car CD player spending
nothing (or almost nothing). If you used our tip it is because you are
possibly not willing to buy a car CD player.

Why should the connection between the CD-ROM unit and the amplifier be made
using the ear phone output and not the one at the back of the unit?

That is because car amplifiers don't usually have volume control. If you use
the output at the back of the CD-ROM drive - which doesn't have volume
control either - the sound from the amplifier will always be at its loudest.
We believe that this is not convenient. If you should use the output at the
back of the CD-ROM drive only if you are to connect it to a pre-amplifier,
equalizer, mixer, or home sound system, since they have volume control.

Source: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/71