Plimer and Silicon Chip

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:58:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up
on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition,
weapons, fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.

supplied = sold, not donated.


So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations.

Yep, we all know about "cost"

Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted to the war
effort,

Entire?

and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war.

Your logical inconsistency is showing.
Hint, before Pearl Harbour as well?

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

I don't want anyone to kiss my ass. You, most of all.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:29:07 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that
no American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few
of them to black US pilots to fly too.

Women flew them, too. Big deal.

So you are confirming that USAian males think their women are lesser
people.

See? You have to attack everything. That was not what I said. If
you knew any of the history, civilian women pilots flew the planes to
Alaska, since every male pilot was overseas in war zones. The point was
that they were flown by more than the Russians. Aviation was still at
the 'Model T' stage at the start of WW-II. A lot of development
happened, while hundreds of thousands of planes were built and supplied
to end WW-II. I guess that you have no concept of not giving your most
advanced weapons to other armies, so they can't be used against you?


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:11:22 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

And also the only country to use WMD's against another country (ie Atom
Bomb)

Gee, is your education that poor, or are you just stupid?

Err, what part of the fact do you have trouble with or are you looking in
the mirror?

Yawn. You're snipping to create lies, as usual.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that no
American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few of
them
to black US pilots to fly too.


You think they deserved better planes?

** The Russians built and flew their own planes against the German
vasion - tens of thousand of them.

Your claims are utter crap.

What is a 'vasion'? They only buit a small percentage of the planes,
when compared to what the US supplied.

England couldn't
get their Merlins off the ground without the special high octane
gasoline available from a Texas refinery.

** Utter bullshit.


As always, you have to prove your ignorance and that you are full of
bullshit. They wouldn't run on the low octane fuel available in Europe
at that time.

** Even more utter BULLSHIT.

Everything you utter is bullshit. Take your medicine and get some
sleep.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:58:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up
on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition,
weapons, fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.

supplied = sold, not donated.


So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations.

Yep, we all know about "cost".

Sigh. So much hatred, ignorance and arrogance. I suppose you would
have worked for free, or paid to work long days in a hot factory?

Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted to the war
effort,

Entire?

Show me ANY US manufacturer who was exempt. Companies like Black &
Decker, Skil and other power tool companies were told to shut down and
build dynamotors for the radios. The car companies were converted to
build jeeps, tanks, and metal parts for other military equipment. The
electronics industry was shut down, and converted to build radios, RADAR
and other military electronics. The early TV stations were shut down, as
well. The war board decided who would be best for each task, and the
companies had no choice but to comply. If they didn't, all raw materials
were cut off. Sugar, flour, eggs and a lot of other foods were rationed
because the huge amount of food needed for the packaged meals prepared
for the military, and food aid sent to other countries. The cotton
crops were diverted into uniforms, bandages and canvas for tens and
equipment covers. All nylon was diverted to making parachutes, since
the supply of silk from China was cut off. People donated their cars
and trucks so the steel could be recycled into military equipment. US
civilians 'loaned' personal rifles to England for their troops early in
the war. Of course, not one was returned to the owner, or their family.


Like it or not, the US put forth a huge effort. Would you rather we
had built more nuclear warheads and dropped them everywhere?

--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Phil Allison]

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

** The Russians built and flew their own planes against the German
invasion - tens of thousand of them.

Your claims are utter crap.

What is a 'invasion'? They only buit a small percentage of the planes,
when compared to what the US supplied.

** Massive FUCKING lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go eat shit you vile, septic MOTHERFUCKER !!



...... Phil

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2009-10-09, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

I can't say that that would have impressed any of those who were
actually doing the fighting

The you don't seem to get is the other allies made greater sacrifices.

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:25:22 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:29:07 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s)
that no American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave
a few of them to black US pilots to fly too.

Women flew them, too. Big deal.

So you are confirming that USAian males think their women are lesser
people.

See? You have to attack everything. That was not what I said.

But it is. Someone suggested the the planes SOLD, not given, to the USSR
were substandard planes in the view of white pilots, but black pilots
were still required to fly them. To which you joined they were also
"flown" by women. Now you are attempting weasel out by saying you ddn't
mean flown (as in fighting), but "flown" as in transfer flights.

The point was that they were flown by more than the Russians.

You still have to provide that evidence.

I guess that you have no concept of not giving your most
advanced weapons to other armies, so they can't be used against you?

Please, I've seen the crap you share with the Australian army.

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:20:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Mark Harriss wrote:

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.


Thank you. That was my point,

Trying to shuffle now and claim something different. The fact was that
the USA was in a great position to sell weapons to combatants during WWII
because it brought in a lot of money to the owners of USA businesses. Do
not blame us if your government of the day decided to rob their own
population to boost the income of these business owners.

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

I don't want anyone to kiss my ass. You, most of all.

Then why do you continually post false material that claims the rest of
the world owes the USA?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "


** The Russians built and flew their own planes against the German
invasion - tens of thousand of them.

Your claims are utter crap.

What is a 'invasion'? They only buit a small percentage of the planes,
when compared to what the US supplied.

** Massive FUCKING lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go eat shit you vile, septic MOTHERFUCKER !!

Are you ever going to grow up and admit your mistakes? You changed
the word from 'vasion' to 'invasion'. You don't fool anyone, except
yourself. You and Bill Sloman make Australians look like raving fools.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2009-10-09, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

I can't say that that would have impressed any of those who were
actually doing the fighting

The you don't seem to get is the other allies made greater sacrifices.

Cites? Show proof.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:25:22 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:29:07 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s)
that no American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave
a few of them to black US pilots to fly too.

Women flew them, too. Big deal.

So you are confirming that USAian males think their women are lesser
people.

See? You have to attack everything. That was not what I said.

But it is. Someone suggested the the planes SOLD, not given, to the USSR
were substandard planes in the view of white pilots, but black pilots
were still required to fly them. To which you joined they were also
"flown" by women. Now you are attempting weasel out by saying you ddn't
mean flown (as in fighting), but "flown" as in transfer flights.

The point was that they were flown by more than the Russians.

You still have to provide that evidence.

Prove that they weren't. Our pilots were trained in anything that
flew, including crop dusters to free up the best planes for use
overseas. The planes sent to Russia were a lot better than what was
used to train our pilots. Some leaned to fly in patched together
biplanes

I guess that you have no concept of not giving your most
advanced weapons to other armies, so they can't be used against you?

Please, I've seen the crap you share with the Australian army.

Maybe we should just keep it and replace what our troops are using.
A lot of US military units in Iraq & Afghanistan are using equipment and
weapons that were to be scrapped.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:20:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Mark Harriss wrote:

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.


Thank you. That was my point,

Trying to shuffle now and claim something different. The fact was that
the USA was in a great position to sell weapons to combatants during WWII
because it brought in a lot of money to the owners of USA businesses. Do
not blame us if your government of the day decided to rob their own
population to boost the income of these business owners.

In a great position? You're as loony as Phil. If we were 'in a great
position' why did we have to shut down all civilian manufacturing to
convert the plants to military production? Our military was poorly
equipped, mostly with WW-I surplus. Americans had had their fill of
war, with WW-I which was supposed to be 'The war to end all wars!' We
were still recovering from the depression, and life was still returning
to normal.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:21:06 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

I don't want anyone to kiss my ass. You, most of all.

Then why do you continually post false material that claims the rest of
the world owes the USA?

When did I say that? I did say that some Allies didn't repay their
war debt according to their agreement. Its not my fault that you can't
tell the truth.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:44:13 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:20:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Mark Harriss wrote:

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.


Thank you. That was my point,

Trying to shuffle now and claim something different. The fact was that
the USA was in a great position to sell weapons to combatants during
WWII because it brought in a lot of money to the owners of USA
businesses. Do not blame us if your government of the day decided to
rob their own population to boost the income of these business owners.


In a great position?

Lol, so little understanding of the events you claim to know so much
about.

If we were 'in a great
position' why did we have to shut down all civilian manufacturing to
convert the plants to military production?

Hey,USAians have always been very highly motivated by greed and there are
loads of examples on ripping off their fellow country men.

So you are saying from 1939, the USA population was deprived because all
USA manufacturing turned to making armaments to sell the WWII combatants?

Try reading some history books.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:45:40 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Then why do you continually post false material that claims the rest of
the world owes the USA?

When did I say that? I did say that some Allies didn't repay their
war debt according to their agreement.

List them?

Its not my fault that you can't tell the truth.

Oh, you want me to point to "the truth" as written by the USA armed
forces? Hell, even your own WWII veteran piss all over "the official
history".

I don't own any WW-II veterans. I served during the Vietnam era.
Have you ever talked to any US W.W.II Veterans? I have, and attend
memorials for the ones who pass on. We have about 200 names every three
months, just in this county.

Keep yammering your pathetic attempts to insults. You sound more
like Phil, every day.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:44:13 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:20:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Mark Harriss wrote:

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.


Thank you. That was my point,

Trying to shuffle now and claim something different. The fact was that
the USA was in a great position to sell weapons to combatants during
WWII because it brought in a lot of money to the owners of USA
businesses. Do not blame us if your government of the day decided to
rob their own population to boost the income of these business owners.


In a great position?

Lol, so little understanding of the events you claim to know so much
about.

If we were 'in a great
position' why did we have to shut down all civilian manufacturing to
convert the plants to military production?

Hey,USAians have always been very highly motivated by greed and there are
loads of examples on ripping off their fellow country men.

So you are saying from 1939, the USA population was deprived because all
USA manufacturing turned to making armaments to sell the WWII combatants?

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:45:40 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Then why do you continually post false material that claims the rest of
the world owes the USA?

When did I say that? I did say that some Allies didn't repay their
war debt according to their agreement.

List them?

Its not my fault that you can't tell the truth.

Oh, you want me to point to "the truth" as written by the USA armed
forces? Hell, even your own WWII veteran piss all over "the official
history".

 

[terryc]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:26:13 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Oh, you want me to point to "the truth" as written by the USA armed
forces? Hell, even your own WWII veteran piss all over "the official
history".

Have you ever talked to any US W.W.II Veterans?

Yes, that is why I could make the comment.