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[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:35:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The world bitched about the US involvement in WWI, which lead to a
short isolationist period. Then they bitched about that.

Nope, we just point out they were part of the solution and not THE
solutions. Whereas USAians think we should be eternally kissing their
arse because they showed up.

I hope all Australians aren't that paranoid & misinformed.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.

supplied = sold, not donated.

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Jeßus]

In article <OuydncCdz_YA9lLXnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
mike.terrell@earthlink.net said...
:
:terryc wrote:
:>
:> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
:>
:> > The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
:> > the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
:> > fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.
:>
:> supplied = sold, not donated.
:
:
: So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
:Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
:to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
:needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
:they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
:few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
:materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
:conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

I'm glad you're so bitter and misinformed. Eat shit <G>

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

qmod wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "


The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that no
American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few of them
to black US pilots to fly too.


And also the only country to use WMD's against another country (ie Atom
Bomb)

Gee, is your education that poor, or are you just stupid? The two
bombs dropped in Japan, in Hiroshima & Nagasaki ended Japan's war
machine. In doing so, it saved millions of lives. The japanese were
convinced that their emperor was god, and that they couldn't be
defeated. they were prepared to let every man, woman and child die to
prove it. After the two warheads were detonated, they suddenly realized
that they had nothing that could stop a weapon like that, and
surrendered.

Find and read the book Hiroshima by John Hersey. It tells of six
survivors of the bombing of Hiroshima, and the efforts of a Japanese
doctor to treat people with radiation sickness. See for yourself what
the Japanese military thought of the civilians, and how their emperor
treated them. The doctor's name was Masakazu Fujii. It was written in
1946, and has a lot of detail from the doctor's diary. I bet you won't
read it, because you are just another gutless loudmouth. If you do read
it, you will probably vomit several times.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Davo wrote:

keithr wrote:
On 9/10/2009 4:32 PM, Davo wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
keithr wrote:
On 8/10/2009 8:43 PM, Davo wrote:
terryc wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:48:33 +1100, David L. Jones wrote:


How can being able to almost completely wipe out the human race
within a
matter of hours or days at the push of a button, NOT be the biggest
threat facing this planet?
Well, there are only two militaries involved with this theorectical
capacity. The Russians who have a decrepit and unreliable system and
The USA who so far have cocked up every war (including independence)
they entered unless someone else was wiping their arse and helping
them.

You must read different history books to mine, if it wasn't for the
Americans entering WWII England would be speaking German and Australia
would be talking Japanese.
It was the Russians more than the Yanks that defeated the Germans.
Whether the Japanese could have invaded Australia is moot, they had
pretty well run out of steam before they got here. It was, of course
the
Yanks who mainly defeated the Japanese, but they didn't do it on
their own.


The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII. England couldn't
get their Merlins off the ground without the special high octane
gasoline available from a Texas refinery. Then read about the amount of
Penicillin, Magnetrons, and other items that no one else could build in
the needed quantities. America supplied over half of the ammunition
used by the Allies during WWII

Finally, read the MIT 'RadLabs' series of books to see how much of
modern electronics was developed by the US during WWII. it is over 750
MB of scanned material.

http://cer.ucsd.edu/~james/notes/MIT%20OpenCourseWare/MIT%20Radiation%20Lab/




Not to mention THE bomb.

Largely developed by dissident german scientists.

So was it used by the Germans or the Americans?

Don't confuse him with facts.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that no
American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few of them
to black US pilots to fly too.

Women flew them, too. Big deal. They were a necessary weapon in that
war.


You think they deserved better planes? They got what they needed.
Something simple, cheap to fly and maintain. You have no concept of the
expected losses from anti-aircraft guns, and poorly trained pilots. The
planes were built in California, then flown to what is now Ft. Greely
Alaska. It was a USAAF airfield at that time. There, the Russian
pilots were fed, got a night's sleep and flew new planes back across the
Bering Straits towards Russian refueling points. Then on to be loaded
with ammunition and into battle. Without those planes, Russia would
have lost to Germany.

I served at Ft Greely after WW-II. I worked in the building where
they housed and fed the Russian pilots after it was transferred to the
US Army for the USAF. It was the US Army Cold Weather Research
Facility. The record low temperature at that base was -69 degrees F.


The Russians weren't ready for the 767, after all.

A jackass like you would never survive in a war zone. You would open
your ignorant moth, and be shot as a traitor.

England couldn't
get their Merlins off the ground without the special high octane
gasoline available from a Texas refinery.

** Utter bullshit.

As always, you have to prove your ignorance and that you are full of
bullshit. They wouldn't run on the low octane fuel available in Europe
at that time. They used all the crude oil available, and the result was
a lower average octane. A few oil fields in Texas had a lot higher
grade crude that was refined for high octane engines. The same is true
today. Europe imports better crude and refined gasoline from other
areas.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jeßus wrote:

In article <OuydncCdz_YA9lLXnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
mike.terrell@earthlink.net said...
:
:terryc wrote:
:
:> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
:
:> > The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
:> > the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
:> > fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.
:
:> supplied = sold, not donated.
:
:
: So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
:Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
:to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
:needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
:they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
:few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
:materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
:conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

I'm glad you're so bitter and misinformed. Eat shit <G

Yawn. No one wants your lunch.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Phil Allison]

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that no
American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few of
them
to black US pilots to fly too.


You think they deserved better planes?

** The Russians built and flew their own planes against the German
vasion - tens of thousand of them.

Your claims are utter crap.

England couldn't
get their Merlins off the ground without the special high octane
gasoline available from a Texas refinery.

** Utter bullshit.


As always, you have to prove your ignorance and that you are full of
bullshit. They wouldn't run on the low octane fuel available in Europe
at that time.

** Even more utter BULLSHIT.



..... Phil

 

[keithr]

Davo wrote:

keithr wrote:
On 9/10/2009 4:32 PM, Davo wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
keithr wrote:
On 8/10/2009 8:43 PM, Davo wrote:
terryc wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:48:33 +1100, David L. Jones wrote:


How can being able to almost completely wipe out the human race
within a
matter of hours or days at the push of a button, NOT be the biggest
threat facing this planet?
Well, there are only two militaries involved with this theorectical
capacity. The Russians who have a decrepit and unreliable system and
The USA who so far have cocked up every war (including independence)
they entered unless someone else was wiping their arse and helping
them.

You must read different history books to mine, if it wasn't for the
Americans entering WWII England would be speaking German and
Australia
would be talking Japanese.
It was the Russians more than the Yanks that defeated the Germans.
Whether the Japanese could have invaded Australia is moot, they had
pretty well run out of steam before they got here. It was, of
course the
Yanks who mainly defeated the Japanese, but they didn't do it on
their own.


The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII. England couldn't
get their Merlins off the ground without the special high octane
gasoline available from a Texas refinery. Then read about the amount of
Penicillin, Magnetrons, and other items that no one else could build in
the needed quantities. America supplied over half of the ammunition
used by the Allies during WWII

Finally, read the MIT 'RadLabs' series of books to see how much of
modern electronics was developed by the US during WWII. it is over 750
MB of scanned material.

http://cer.ucsd.edu/~james/notes/MIT%20OpenCourseWare/MIT%20Radiation%20Lab/




Not to mention THE bomb.

Largely developed by dissident german scientists.

So was it used by the Germans or the Americans?

Do you understand the word dissident?

 

[terryc]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:51:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:35:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The world bitched about the US involvement in WWI, which lead to a
short isolationist period. Then they bitched about that.

Nope, we just point out they were part of the solution and not THE
solutions. Whereas USAians think we should be eternally kissing their
arse because they showed up.


I hope all Australians aren't that paranoid & misinformed.

Lol, what is misinformed? You have already posted that the sun shone out
of the USAians arse during WWII. Nuff said.

 

[terryc]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:11:22 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

And also the only country to use WMD's against another country (ie Atom
Bomb)

Gee, is your education that poor, or are you just stupid?

Err, what part of the fact do you have trouble with or are you looking in
the mirror?

 

[terryc]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:29:07 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell Retarded Looney "

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies.

** The Yanks supplied Russia with inferior fighter planes ( P39s) that
no American wanted to fly against the Japanese or Germans. Gave a few
of them to black US pilots to fly too.

Women flew them, too. Big deal.

So you are confirming that USAian males think their women are lesser
people.

 

[terryc]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:58:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up
on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition,
weapons, fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.

supplied = sold, not donated.


So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations.

Yep, we all know about "cost"

Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted to the war
effort,

Entire?

and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war.

Your logical inconsistency is showing.
Hint, before Pearl Harbour as well?

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

 

[Roger Dewhurst]

**Bollocks. Until recently, China lacked the firepower, though it does have
the personel. Indonesia doesn't have it. Like it or lump it, Australia has
the most firepower in the immediate region (China excepted). For now.

I was working in Indonesia at the time they invaded Timor. There was a
widespread belief there that Indonesia should rightfully control Malaya
and the whole extended archipelago including Melanesia. The military
was totally corrupt but I believe that they might well have thought that
they were capable of taking on Australia. It was touch and go whether
they would go east of the border in PNG. The Australian Labour
Government of the time may well have not had the balls to do anything,
and the Indonesians might have understood that. On the other hand there
were many ex Australian Army who would not have stood for the natives
who helped then so much in the fight against the Japanese on the Kokoda
Trail being sacrificed. I do not think that the Indonesians understood
that. At the end of the day they did not cross the border, but it was
touch and go.

Fortunately the power lay with the Indonesian army and not the air force
or navy. They would have had trouble getting their troops ashore and
they would have had even greater trouble with the lack of water. Their
soldiers are muslims and would want to wash their dicks after every
piss. There is not enough water for that!

R

 

[Roger Dewhurst]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:30:33 +0800, Davo wrote:


So could China beat us or not?

At home, probably not.
The big question is how well can city bred people take to guerilla
warfare?

Your politicians have effectively disarmed the populace!!!!!!!! Silly

buggers.

R

 

[keithr]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.
supplied = sold, not donated.


So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

Not so, the British for instance paid back every penny, Not sure about
Australia, but I don't think that the US supplied that much here.

 

[keithr]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:58:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up
on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition,
weapons, fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.
supplied = sold, not donated.

So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations.

Yep, we all know about "cost"

Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted to the war
effort,

Entire?

and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war.

Your logical inconsistency is showing.
Hint, before Pearl Harbour as well?

Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.

See, you are admitting that you think "the allies" should still be
kissing your arse.

Of course, pearl Harbour would not have happened had the US not forced

Japan to open itself to the world by sending Admiral Perry to force them
to do so.

 

[Mark Harriss]

keithr wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
terryc wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:33:30 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Russians, using American built planes and supplies. Read up on
the 'Lend - Lease' program where America supplied ammunition, weapons,
fuel, food and medicine to the Allies during WWII.
supplied = sold, not donated.


So, you are a greedy, ungrateful bastard. It was supplied, at cost to
Allied nations. Our entire manufacturing infrastructure was converted
to the war effort, and millions of American citizens did with what they
needed, to make sure the military of Allied nations got the supplies
they needed. No new tires, very little gasoline. Food rationing, very
few new clothes, shoes or other items available, because the raw
materials were diverted to the war. Then most of the 'Allies'
conveniently forgot to pay for their share of the cost for freedom.


Not so, the British for instance paid back every penny, Not sure about
Australia, but I don't think that the US supplied that much here.

I thought the Brits had things tougher well into the 60's as they paid
off their WW2 debt. Australian companies had to pay penalties for buying
outside the Commonwealth such as Boeing 727 jets instead of Comets to
the Brits to help the foreign balance of payments.

Also the Yanks paid British Petroleum's predecessor 8 million pounds
for use of the catalyst to make 100 octane petrol that BP developed in
the 1930's.

Still the USA did manufacture some handy stuff like the P51 for the
Brits
and their long wave navy radar was almost identical to the Brits, though
their jaws dropped when the Tizard mission showed them the 10cm
wavelength magnetron which made aircraft radar practical and was 1000
times more powerful than the American efforts to date.

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:51:23 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

terryc wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:35:02 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The world bitched about the US involvement in WWI, which lead to a
short isolationist period. Then they bitched about that.

Nope, we just point out they were part of the solution and not THE
solutions. Whereas USAians think we should be eternally kissing their
arse because they showed up.


I hope all Australians aren't that paranoid & misinformed.

Lol, what is misinformed? You have already posted that the sun shone out
of the USAians arse during WWII. Nuff said.

Yes. Enough of your ignorant lies.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Mark Harriss wrote:

Both side did their part to defeat the Nazis in WW2.

Thank you. That was my point, but it went over the heads of the anti
America crowd.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!