OT: UK to move back to imperial units?

[Phil Allison]

Jan Panteltje Wog Nut Case wrote:

That's why it's important we ban books -- they've got no commercials,
plant no tracking cookies, and take too much time away from television.

Exactly, books kill trees so cause glowballworming,

** What have glowworms got to do with anything ?

Trees harvested for paper are replaced in cultivated forests.

are heavy, no online updates, fire hazard, take too much space,

** One huge advantage is their contents do not suddenly change or disappear at the whim of anyone.

no live experiment
movies, sensitive to fungus, not waterproof, lower data per dollar than
google and bing, usually only a one person POV, and once you have read
one all it is good for is fix a wobbling table or something.

** Absurdly negative view from someone with a very defective brain.

The internet turns such people from harmless weirdos into dangerous misinformers of the young and naĂŻve.



...... Phil

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

I too came to Phil's calculation that a dense smattering of small vias
laid down the most copper, but got John's lament from assembly houses
that the vias gobble the solder paste. "Don't do that," they said.

Maybe a sensible tack would be using small vias to maximize copper,
then estimating the aggregate void, and then estimating the paste...

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't penetrate,
and because the circumference is less. Boost the copper plating too much,
and the PTH makes a bump so the pad doesn't rest on the plane.

Mill a hole, and glue a heatpipe to the backside, for real heatsinking. Or
stop trying to mechanically mount by surface-soldering for the high heat parts.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 7/30/2019 18:35, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 6:09:34 PM UTC-4, dp wrote:
On 7/28/2019 23:43, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 28/07/19 17:01, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 7/28/2019 17:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.






Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all
the repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments
against retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.

He should also tell us which country he lives in, because
he has stated it isn't part of the UK, viz...

He will tell neither. His behaviour is standard for a russian troll,
he'll keep on babbling as long as he gets paid for his babble.
Pathetic way to earn a living.

Cursitor Doom has been posting entertaining heterodoxy and
electronics-related postings here for decades. He is not a
Russian troll. He's a hobbyist.

Cheers,
James Arthur

~~~~~~~~~~
"Correction: An item in last month's 'Entertainment' section
incorrectly identified Yoko Ono as a cannibalistic, grave-robbing
gold digger greedily feeding on the shattered dreams of a
generation. Miss Ono is a multimedia artist." (MAD Magazine, c. 1980)

Hmm. He certainly sings the songs Russian trolls sing, 1:1 to what
they push on Bulgarian news comment sections etc.
I genuinely thought he was one of them trolls, his political posts
are certainly what a Russian troll would post.

Probably he just parrots what he has been subjected to via some of
the media the Russians have in their pocket.

Is he the "always wrong" guy and the guy who may be some 10 years
ago was "massive prong"? I have very rarely read this group last
few years so I could not tell.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 7/30/19 7:48 PM, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

I too came to Phil's calculation that a dense smattering of small vias
laid down the most copper, but got John's lament from assembly houses
that the vias gobble the solder paste. "Don't do that," they said.

Maybe a sensible tack would be using small vias to maximize copper,
then estimating the aggregate void, and then estimating the paste...

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't penetrate,
and because the circumference is less.

Got any actual data about that, or are you just guessing?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:37:49 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
<whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
<f2e80974-f720-4ed2-9123-b669b59d68ed@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 8:29:21 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Exactly, books kill trees so cause glowballworming, are heavy, no online updates,

You say that like it's a bad thing. Bookburning aside, 'no online updates' means
no historical revisionist tampering. Lies can be exposed, with the author's name
associated with them, which is rather a polite way to keep authors honest.

If NIST wants to publish errata for Abramowitz and Stegun's handbook,
that can be harvested from the online source, though. Just KNOW the
source, or be forever subject to trickery.

I never was much into who wrote what,
more if the content makes sense and was useful to me.
History is always re-written by the winner.
As a kid I grew up with Van Aisberg's 'That is how radio works',
'That is how television works' and at
age 8 or so was telling the repair man how to fix our radio...

Those books in a way formed my future.
As other poster mentioned I do not care about the name or exact dates of
all the wars and generals.. we had to learn those in school.

These days with internet and google you can broaden your view both in electronics and
other sciences without paging through hundreds of books in libraries.
All in minutes, no need to go anywhere and as much in depth as you want.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 1:35:55 AM UTC+10, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 6:09:34 PM UTC-4, dp wrote:
On 7/28/2019 23:43, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 28/07/19 17:01, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 7/28/2019 17:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.






Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all
the repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments
against retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.

He should also tell us which country he lives in, because
he has stated it isn't part of the UK, viz...

He will tell neither. His behaviour is standard for a russian troll,
he'll keep on babbling as long as he gets paid for his babble.
Pathetic way to earn a living.

Cursitor Doom has been posting entertaining heterodoxy and
electronics-related postings here for decades. He is not a
Russian troll. He's a hobbyist.

One deluded right-winger posting excuses for an even more deluded right-winger.

I can't recall any electronics-related posting from Cursitor Doom. Maybe James Arthur could post a link to an example.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:14:20 AM UTC+10, Chris wrote:

On 07/30/19 01:40, Tom Gardner wrote:


The problem arises when he imposes it on the whole country
(which, as a lawmaker, he has done), or makes the UK look
stupid (which he does with his "metric is bad" stuff).


Ok, so give me an example of "imposing it on the whole
country" ?.

Presumably he wants to measure capacitance in Jars.


then fair enough, though the left wing msm will present it in
the most prejudicial way possible, as usual...

Ah. A fanatic that sees something and automatically
presumes a conspiracy.

Not at all. Not a party man here and vote for who I
think will be good for the country, but the fact is that
the msm in this country (England) are predominantly left
wing and twist the facts on a regular basis to suit the
agenda.

At one point I subscribed to both the Guardian (for the news) and the Daily Telegraph (for the job ads). I got to notice that the Daily Telegraph left out details from news stories that suited their political agenda.

The Guardian's stories were thus more comprehensive, and I never caught them leaving out stuff that the Daily Telegraph had published. It's a long time ago - around 1975 - before Murdoch had bought the Times.

Since Murdoch still owns an appreciable chunk of the British main stream media, the proposition the the UK main stream media is predominantly left wing is bizarre, and the idea that they'd do anything as obvious (and demonstrable) as "twisting the facts" is even odder.

No conspiracy required. Current main agendas are
climate change, try to stop Brexit and most recently,
slag off anything they can about the Johnson leadership
campaign. Then they have the cheek to moan about ever
increasing levels of fake news, when they are one of the main
purveyors of it.

Right-wing nitwits do regard any news story they don't like as "fake news", which is to say it hasn't been faked to suite them.

Have been a Guardian subscriber, print edition for over
ten years and well aware of their contempt for the
intelligence of their readers. Not sure how much longer
though...

The lack of intelligence being put on display here is contemptible. One can't blame the Guardian for publishing articles that don't conform to Chris's bizarre delusions, even if he thinks they ought to.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 4:00:17 AM UTC+10, Chris wrote:

On 07/30/19 18:44, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 30/07/19 18:14, Chris wrote:
On 07/30/19 01:40, Tom Gardner wrote:


The problem arises when he imposes it on the whole country
(which, as a lawmaker, he has done), or makes the UK look
stupid (which he does with his "metric is bad" stuff).


Ok, so give me an example of "imposing it on the whole
country" ?.

His religious opinions about abortion, same sex marriages,
and similar.


So what ?. So he should be banned from public life just
because some disagree with his opinions ?. You don't counter
extremism by banning it, you let them speak and counter
it with a better argument.

It's a d e m o c r a c y, where diverse opinions should be
encouraged, or at worst tolerated and it's not as though
Mogg gets his own way about much without scrutiny by
parliament,the great leveler. He does however have a first
class intellect and an encyclopaedic knowledge of uk law
and parliamentary procedure, so ideal for the role of father
of the house.

You may not like him, but people should be chosen on the
basis of ability, not their opinions, even though we are
on the edge of a thought crime state in many ways...

The problem with the UK is that people get chosen on the basis of their social class, as well as their abilities. Kids who went to Eton are over-represented in the corridors of power. They might have been picked from the brighter kids who went through Eton, but there were almost certainly brighter candidates who hadn't gone to Eton (or even Fettes' in Edinburgh).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 31/07/19 02:04, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

On 7/30/2019 18:35, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 6:09:34 PM UTC-4, dp wrote:
On 7/28/2019 23:43, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 28/07/19 17:01, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 7/28/2019 17:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.






Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all
the repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments
against retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.

He should also tell us which country he lives in, because
he has stated it isn't part of the UK, viz...

He will tell neither. His behaviour is standard for a russian troll,
he'll keep on babbling as long as he gets paid for his babble.
Pathetic way to earn a living.

Cursitor Doom has been posting entertaining heterodoxy and
electronics-related postings here for decades.  He is not a
Russian troll.  He's a hobbyist.

Cheers,
James Arthur

~~~~~~~~~~
"Correction: An item in last month's 'Entertainment' section
incorrectly identified Yoko Ono as a cannibalistic, grave-robbing
gold digger greedily feeding on the shattered dreams of a
generation.  Miss Ono is a multimedia artist." (MAD Magazine, c. 1980)


Hmm. He certainly sings the songs Russian trolls sing, 1:1 to what
they push on Bulgarian news comment sections etc.
I genuinely thought he was one of them trolls, his political posts
are certainly what a Russian troll would post.

The objectives and results of a "troll" and a "useful fool"
are very similar.

Probably he just parrots what he has been subjected to via some of
the media the Russians have in their pocket.

Yes, because he has stated that Russia Today is his "most
trusted news source". (See below)

Is he the "always wrong" guy and the guy who may be some 10 years
ago was "massive prong"? I have very rarely read this group last
few years so I could not tell.

Not "always wrong", more like a "stopped clock".

His previous message...

On 31/08/17 22:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:22:14 -0700, lonmkusch wrote:

While you're deciding, I think I'm going to stroll over to RT for some
good unbiased news.

If you can't see that RT is a zillion times more reputable as a news
source than CNN/NBC/BBC et al, you must be totally blind. Sure they
aren't 100% impartial; no news organisation is. But they are my most
trusted news source even if not yours - until such time as I ever
discover otherwise, of course.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 6:46:35 PM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/30/19 7:48 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't penetrate,
and because the circumference is less.

Got any actual data about that, or are you just guessing?

Field lines that put copper onto the sidewalls of a hole, are radial
inside the hole. The math of electric fields is my reasoning, and
complaints in the literature about plating inside holes is supporting
data (Printed Circuits Handbook, Clyde Coombs is where I recall
reading about this).

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 7/31/2019 9:20, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 31/07/19 02:04, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 7/30/2019 18:35, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 6:09:34 PM UTC-4, dp wrote:
On 7/28/2019 23:43, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 28/07/19 17:01, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
On 7/28/2019 17:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give
you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.






Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all
the repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments
against retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.

He should also tell us which country he lives in, because
he has stated it isn't part of the UK, viz...

He will tell neither. His behaviour is standard for a russian troll,
he'll keep on babbling as long as he gets paid for his babble.
Pathetic way to earn a living.

Cursitor Doom has been posting entertaining heterodoxy and
electronics-related postings here for decades.  He is not a
Russian troll.  He's a hobbyist.

Cheers,
James Arthur

~~~~~~~~~~
"Correction: An item in last month's 'Entertainment' section
incorrectly identified Yoko Ono as a cannibalistic, grave-robbing
gold digger greedily feeding on the shattered dreams of a
generation.  Miss Ono is a multimedia artist." (MAD Magazine, c. 1980)


Hmm. He certainly sings the songs Russian trolls sing, 1:1 to what
they push on Bulgarian news comment sections etc.
I genuinely thought he was one of them trolls, his political posts
are certainly what a Russian troll would post.

The objectives and results of a "troll" and a "useful fool"
are very similar.

Of course, then who can tell if they did not recruit him somewhere
down the line. I have always wondered "where do they dig them up",
perhaps they locate babblers and recruit them, who knows.

Probably he just parrots what he has been subjected to via some of
the media the Russians have in their pocket.

Yes, because he has stated that Russia Today is his "most
trusted news source". (See below)

No person in the western world would even think to consider the Kremlin
media being a news source, I suspect he has "discovered" his
RT source < 5 years ago.

Is he the "always wrong" guy and the guy who may be some 10 years
ago was "massive prong"? I have very rarely read this group last
few years so I could not tell.

Not "always wrong", more like a "stopped clock".

His previous message...

On 31/08/17 22:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:22:14 -0700, lonmkusch wrote:

While you're deciding, I think I'm going to stroll over to RT for some
good unbiased news.

If you can't see that RT is a zillion times more reputable as a news
source than CNN/NBC/BBC et al, you must be totally blind. Sure they
aren't 100% impartial; no news organisation is. But they are my most
trusted news source even if not yours - until such time as I ever
discover otherwise, of course.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 31/07/2019 02:46, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/30/19 7:48 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com
wrote:

I too came to Phil's calculation that a dense smattering of small vias
laid down the most copper, but got John's lament from assembly houses
that the vias gobble the solder paste. "Don't do that," they said.

Maybe a sensible tack would be using small vias to maximize copper,
then estimating the aggregate void, and then estimating the paste...

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't  penetrate,
and because the circumference is less.

Got any actual data about that, or are you just guessing?

My intuition agrees with him that the smaller the hole the more it will
be diffusion limited as well. A few strategically places ones might be
better. When they fill with solder paste that has to help.

Only way to be sure is do the experiment and measure the results.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

On Tuesday, 30 July 2019 01:40:20 UTC+1, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 30/07/19 00:11, Chris wrote:
On 07/29/19 23:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:14:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

He's just being a Panteltje. We're used to it round here.

Thanks for clearing that up, Phil. I was beginning to wonder.


Reece Mogg is old school english, but I don't have a problem
with that. If he wants so specify rules in his own office,

The problem arises when he imposes it on the whole country
(which, as a lawmaker, he has done), or makes the UK look
stupid (which he does with his "metric is bad" stuff).

Presumably he wants to measure capacitance in Jars.


then fair enough, though the left wing msm will present it in
the most prejudicial way possible, as usual...

Ah. A fanatic that sees something and automatically
presumes a conspiracy.

I can only conclude you failed to read the original document.


NT

 

On Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:09:54 UTC+1, dp wrote:

On 7/31/2019 9:20, Tom Gardner wrote:

Yes, because he has stated that Russia Today is his "most
trusted news source". (See below)

No person in the western world would even think to consider the Kremlin
media being a news source, I suspect he has "discovered" his
RT source < 5 years ago.

Not so. Yes most of it's junk, but now & then they get real when no-one else does. Russian news is its own weird world, but if you want to fully understand the world you can't afford to omit it.

The idea that anyone would actually trust RT news I do find disconcerting.


NT

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:09:47 +0300) it happened Dimiter_Popoff
<dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote in <qhrsts$2e0$1@dont-email.me>:

No person in the western world would even think to consider the Kremlin
media being a news source, I suspect he has "discovered" his
RT source < 5 years ago.

Bull
rt.com is a news source,
just like Fox TV,
chinaplus.cri.cn
cnn
bbc

etc etc

All are in a way biased towards - and controlled by the countries that own those.
That is why you should follow several, and not just your western propaganda
to get an idea what other cultures do and see where other cultures are at.

One of the great things of having a movable satellite dish is, at least here in Europe,
that I can see thousands of channels from many many cultures, Middle East, India,
Africa, S America, Russia, China, most European countries and of course the British,
and I can tell you that each television station is under their government control.
So much for me in MY western world, dunno what locally made illusions you live in.
Broaden your horizon.

Stop attacking Mr Doom he has a right to his POV just like you if you are sincere
about your so called western freedoms that are as much an illusion in reality
a the twittering of the US Precedent alias Agent Orange,

What is that western freedom?
On Germany ARD TV tonight there is a documentary about Woodstock at 22:45 CET.
http://panteltje.com/pub/about_woodstock.gif
Peaceful protest from 50 years ago... some may remember.

Maybe I will record it, now I wrote about it, maybe some songs in it I no longer have.
Setting timer.. wow >90 minutes length!

I still have some of the songs now on mp3, remember it like yesterday
/mnt/sda2/audio/other/woodstock #
suite-judy_blue_eyes-crosby_stills_nash_young
wooden_ships-crosby_stills_nash_young
sea_of_madness-crosby_stills_nash_young
i_had_a_dream-john_b_sebastian
at_the_hop-sha-na-na
....
had the record too once, donated it I think.

'dunno what are we fighting for, going to Vietnam....


those days, youth revolt, some later US politician was there I think,
Maybe 'merrica needs more of THAT freedom and not that Agent Orange crap babble.
BROADEN your horizons, travel the world, see other cultures, get some perspective.
rt.com is a good way to start, as well are many others.
There is more than just saturated inductors.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:18:46 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 6:46:35 PM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 7/30/19 7:48 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't penetrate,
and because the circumference is less.

Got any actual data about that, or are you just guessing?

Field lines that put copper onto the sidewalls of a hole, are radial
inside the hole. The math of electric fields is my reasoning, and
complaints in the literature about plating inside holes is supporting
data (Printed Circuits Handbook, Clyde Coombs is where I recall
reading about this).

There are lots of PTH section images online, like this one:

http://www.eurocircuits.com/wp-content/uploads/ec2015/ecImage/blogs/Microsection/Microsection%204.png

The plating generally looks uniform, a bit thinner than the surface
traces. Phil says that the conductivity of plated copper is inferior
to pure copper.

The e-field must be about zero deep inside the hole.

I could measure electrical resistivity as a proxy for thermal
conductivity. The conversion factor is usually about 150,000 K/W per
ohm.







--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:qhs5nn$jjg$1@dont-email.me:

All are in a way biased towards - and controlled by the countries
that own those.

Total bullshit.

But hey... you are "free" to post it. We are just "free" to call it
the bullshit claim it is.

 

tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:6233e264-b74a-45a0-a43c-61c5cfe9b45d@googlegroups.com:

Not so. Yes most of it's junk, but now & then they get real when
no-one else does. Russian news is its own weird world, but if you
want to fully understand the world you can't afford to omit it.

This from the guy regularly suggesting filtering of posters in the
group. Hypocrite much? Oh... more like FOOLy understand.

 

[George Herold]

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:46:35 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/30/19 7:48 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:03:20 AM UTC-7, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

I too came to Phil's calculation that a dense smattering of small vias
laid down the most copper, but got John's lament from assembly houses
that the vias gobble the solder paste. "Don't do that," they said.

Maybe a sensible tack would be using small vias to maximize copper,
then estimating the aggregate void, and then estimating the paste...

The flaw there, is that the plating doesn't 'throw' as much copper into
small vias, both because the E-field at the throat doesn't penetrate,
and because the circumference is less.

Got any actual data about that, or are you just guessing?

So if you get boards with 1 oz copper, I thought I read that the they
start out as 1/2 oz copper and are then plated on top of that to get
to 1 oz. (Though when I've measured this (once) I found that the top and
bottom layers of a pcb were thicker than 1 oz... 35 um.) So I thought
at most via's would be 1/2 oz of copper.
But I don't really know.

George H.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Chris]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:34:15 +0100, Mike wrote:

I'd have thought a metre of rain would have mostly washed Scotland into
the North sea.

We can but hope.

- Chris, England.