OT: The cannibal left loves forcing females to compete against males!...

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 6:43:34 AM UTC+11, Kevin Aylward wrote:
\"Anthony William Sloman\" wrote in message
news:243f6fc5-db60-4886...@googlegroups.com...
They don\'t want anyone even discussing the issue because any discussion
immediately shows that their view is delusional.

Your view clearly is.

You have no f\'ing idea what the gender ideology is, and how far
entrenched such a repugnant ideology is in entities in positions of
power.

The only \"gender ideology\" I\'m aware of is all about making it less likely
that people who suffer from gender dysphoria end up killing themselves.

Sure, you are clueless about the issue.

Whereas you are clued up a about a bunch of fatuous nonsense which you are silly enough to take seriously.

Twitter allows trans activist to threaten MPs and lock out people simply
tweeting what was said in Parliament on a gender debate.:

Who takes Twitter seriously?

<snipped the guff from somebody who seems to >

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 6:42:51 AM UTC+11, Kevin Aylward wrote:
\"David Brown\" wrote in message news:sphrgi$220$1...@dont-email.me...
On 16/12/2021 22:20, Kevin Aylward wrote:
\"David Brown\" wrote in message news:spf171$hcj$1...@dont-email.me...

There is no such entity as a transgender woman. A woman is a woman.
Period. There is a single name for men claiming to be woman. Its
transwoman.

I always find it amazing how some people seem so proud of their
ignorance - wearing it like a Blue Peter badge.

What part of the following do you not understand?

A female is the type of a species that has provides the large gamete, that
is the egg

A male is the type of a species that provides the small gamete, that is the
sperm

Definition Woman: Adult human female

Definition Man: Adult human male.

There are only two sex types, and for the human species, one can not change into the other.

No amount of gaslighting can change basic facts of biology.

But we aren\'t talking about biology, but about social roles, and people who are happier playing the social role that doesn\'t match their chromosomal sexual identity.

> Sure, its astounding that there are those such as you that clearly exhibit the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Kevin does exhibit the heroic degree of stupidity required to witter on about the facts of chromosomal identity when it is entirely incidental to what trans people want, which is all about their social identity. That does strike me as looking like a classic example of Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Kevin isn\'t normally in the least stupid, so presumably he has some kind of emotional block that prevents him from thinking about what is actually going on, and encourages him to drop back to the purely biological issues which don\'t have as much emotional content.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================

Kevin Aylward wrote:

But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia, ignorance,
bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.

** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!

> since I played field hockey all my life

** All you life - even at nearly 80 ?

> - my last game was in 2010 when I was 67.

** That is NOT competitive sport.


Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.

Phil might have trouble recognising cognitive dissonance.

** Always resorting to the the hypothetical \"ad hominem\" logical fallacy.
Cos the fucking arsehole has *no sane case* !!!!

> He seems to imagine that most of the population is autistic

** Right here, the percentage is close to 100.




....... Phil
 
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 10:46:30 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia, ignorance, bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.

** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!

I wasn\'t denying that I was a nerd, merely pointing out that I don\'t conform to your idea of the type, which is actually pretty silly, because sports nerds do exist.

since I played field hockey all my life - my last game was in 2010 when I was 67.

** That is NOT competitive sport.

Clearly you haven\'t played it. Men\'s and women\'s field hockey are both Olympic competitive sports - the men\'s game from 1908, women from 1980.

Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.

Phil might have trouble recognising cognitive dissonance.

** Always resorting to the the hypothetical \"ad hominem\" logical fallacy.

The fact that you the hominid posting defective conclusions means that ignoring your well known cognitive defects would be a worse fallacy.

> Cos the fucking arsehole has *no sane case* !!!!

None that you\'d be willing to recognise.

Phil seems to be enthusiastic about projecting his own psychological problems onto other people. He seems to imagine that most of the population is autistic when the real incidence is perhaps one percent of the population.

** Right here, the percentage is close to 100.

Or so it seems to you. Somebody who knew even a little bit more about autism would find that an implausible claim. As usual, you snipped about half what I\'d posted.

I can understand why. You are unsympathetic to the idea that you are a nut case, no matter how obvious this is to disinterested observers.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================
** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!

I wasn\'t denying that I was a nerd, merely pointing out that I don\'t conform to your idea of the type,

** Wrong - totally wrong.

See the word \" such\" in my post ? Who does it refer to????


since I played field hockey all my life - my last game was in 2010 when I was 67.

** That is NOT competitive sport.
Clearly you haven\'t played it.

** Yawnnnnnnnn.....

Men\'s and women\'s field hockey are both Olympic competitive sports -

** So YOU were in the Olympics at age 67 ??

Fucking amasing !!.



Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.

Phil might have trouble recognising cognitive dissonance.

** Always resorting to the the hypothetical \"ad hominem\" logical fallacy.

( snip asinine drivel - peeeuuukee )

Cos the fucking arsehole has *no sane case* !!!!

** Right here, the percentage is close to 100.
Or so it seems to you.

** Of course it does - cos I am not one tiny bit.
While YOU area massive example of the advanced form of the species and a 100% total pig.

FOAD - arsehole .


...... Phil
 
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 1:24:07 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================

** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!

Your claim about sport and women clearly doesn\'t apply to me. I played field hockey for about fifty years, and I\'m married, and have been for about forty years.
John Larkin and Phil Hobbs are just a married. Bitrex doesn\'t seem to have got that far yet, but he clearly likes female company.

So it\'s you who is posting utter bullshit. Whether you are wrong in your identifcation of nerds, or wrong in your characterisation of them is immaterial - you\'ve clearly screwed up.

The rest of your post is irrelevant. You\'ve obviously screwed up, and are exhibiting the intemperate antics that you always rely on when you think you need to save face.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 5:46:49 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 10:46:30 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia, ignorance, bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.

** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!
I wasn\'t denying that I was a nerd, merely pointing out that I don\'t conform to your idea of the type, which is actually pretty silly, because sports nerds do exist.

since I played field hockey all my life - my last game was in 2010 when I was 67.

** That is NOT competitive sport.
Clearly you haven\'t played it. Men\'s and women\'s field hockey are both Olympic competitive sports - the men\'s game from 1908, women from 1980.
Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.

Phil might have trouble recognising cognitive dissonance.

** Always resorting to the the hypothetical \"ad hominem\" logical fallacy.
The fact that you the hominid posting defective conclusions means that ignoring your well known cognitive defects would be a worse fallacy.
Cos the fucking arsehole has *no sane case* !!!!
None that you\'d be willing to recognise.
Phil seems to be enthusiastic about projecting his own psychological problems onto other people. He seems to imagine that most of the population is autistic when the real incidence is perhaps one percent of the population.

** Right here, the percentage is close to 100.
Or so it seems to you. Somebody who knew even a little bit more about autism would find that an implausible claim. As usual, you snipped about half what I\'d posted.

I can understand why. You are unsympathetic to the idea that you are a nut case, no matter how obvious this is to disinterested observers.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

LOL! SNIPPERMAN complains about, of all things, being SNIPPED!
 
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:23:04 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 5:46:49 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 10:46:30 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
IEEE Bil the Demented Lying Nerd
===========================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia, ignorance, bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.

** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for women.

Then I\'m not a typical nerd,

** Utter bullshit - you could not be a BIGGER one !!!

I wasn\'t denying that I was a nerd, merely pointing out that I don\'t conform to your idea of the type, which is actually pretty silly, because sports nerds do exist.

since I played field hockey all my life - my last game was in 2010 when I was 67.

** That is NOT competitive sport.

Clearly you haven\'t played it. Men\'s and women\'s field hockey are both Olympic competitive sports - the men\'s game from 1908, women from 1980.

Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.

Phil might have trouble recognising cognitive dissonance.

** Always resorting to the the hypothetical \"ad hominem\" logical fallacy.

The fact that you the hominid posting defective conclusions means that ignoring your well known cognitive defects would be a worse fallacy.

Cos the fucking arsehole has *no sane case* !!!!

None that you\'d be willing to recognise.

Phil seems to be enthusiastic about projecting his own psychological problems onto other people. He seems to imagine that most of the population is autistic when the real incidence is perhaps one percent of the population.

** Right here, the percentage is close to 100.

Or so it seems to you. Somebody who knew even a little bit more about autism would find that an implausible claim. As usual, you snipped about half what I\'d posted.

I can understand why. You are unsympathetic to the idea that you are a nut case, no matter how obvious this is to disinterested observers.

LOL! Sloman complains about, of all things, being SNIPPED!

Tom Seim is much too stupid to be able distinguish between snipping out comment which isn\'t relevant to the point under specific discussion, and \"text-chopping\" which is selectively removing some text to make what\'s left appear to mean something different.

In this case Phil didn\'t like the suggestion that he was projecting his own psychological problems (which are pretty obvious) onto other people, so he snipped it out without marking the snip.

I doubt if Tom Seim will get the point even after it has been clearly explained to him. None so dim as those who do wish to understand.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 16/12/2021 22:19, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Sure.

And for the remaining 0.1%, the answer is \"it\'s complicated\". Does that
mean those people don\'t get to be treated fairly, don\'t get to be
themselves, don\'t get to live and act the way they feel is natural for them?

/Usually/ all the ways of determining gender - physically, hormonally,
socially, psychologically, etc., - all point in the same direction. But
sometimes they don\'t.

Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society? Why do you feel so threatened by them?

Try a bit of \"live and let live\". /That/ has worked for 1000\'s of years.
 
David Brown who is a nut case & asshole wrote:
====================================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Sure.

And for the remaining 0.1%, the answer is \"it\'s complicated\". Does that
mean those people don\'t get to be treated fairly, don\'t get to be
themselves, don\'t get to live and act the way they feel is natural for them?

** Loaded, rhetorical Qs like the above are completely asinine.

If you have some case to make - why haven\'t you posted it ??

FYI: I won\'t hold my breath while waiting.


Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Why do you feel so threatened by them?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Try a bit of \"live and let live\".

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.
What is it?



....... Phil
 
On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 10:23:04 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
David Brown who is a nut case & asshole wrote:
====================================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Sure.

And for the remaining 0.1%, the answer is \"it\'s complicated\". Does that
mean those people don\'t get to be treated fairly, don\'t get to be
themselves, don\'t get to live and act the way they feel is natural for them?

** Loaded, rhetorical Qs like the above are completely asinine.

You don\'t want to answer it, so you write it off as loaded and rhetorical.

> If you have some case to make - why haven\'t you posted it ??

He just did, but you can\'t come up with an answer you like.

> FYI: I won\'t hold my breath while waiting.

Wow.Stupid response with added extra stupid flourish.

Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society?

** Same dumb crap again.

Another a question that Phil doesn\'t want to answer.

Why do you feel so threatened by them?

** Same dumb crap again.

In fact a pertinent observation that Phil does find threatening.

Try a bit of \"live and let live\".

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.
What is it?

Phil and John Doe do seem to be terrified of being seduced by an ostensibly female trans male, and being outed as homosexual.

They\'d be less worried by this if they weren\'t worried about their own sexuality - Phil does seem to be a confirmed bachelor, but that may have more to do with his tendency to go ballistic in reaction trivial affronts.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
IEEE Bill loses again
=====================

David Brown who is a nut case & asshole wrote:
====================================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Sure.

And for the remaining 0.1%, the answer is \"it\'s complicated\". Does that
mean those people don\'t get to be treated fairly, don\'t get to be
themselves, don\'t get to live and act the way they feel is natural for them?

** Loaded, rhetorical Qs like the above are completely asinine.
If you have some case to make - why haven\'t you posted it ??

FYI: I won\'t hold my breath while waiting.


Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Why do you feel so threatened by them?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Try a bit of \"live and let live\".

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.
What the fuck is it?
==============


....... Phil
 
On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 12:43:14 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
David Brown wrote:
Kevin Aylward wrote:

<snipped all the stuff Phil ignored>

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.

What the fuck is it?

Try learning to read. My \"agenda\" is perfectly obvious, and has been spelled out repeatedly. There\'s nothing \"private\" about it.

The main point is that gender dysphoria is a recognised, if relatively uncommon, medical condition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

There is an effective treatment for severe cases, which involved changing the victim\'s body so that they can pass in society as a member of the sex they would have preferred to be born into.

You, John Doe and Kevin Aylward want to make the treatment less effective by bitching about the occasional unfairness occasioned by having a biological male compete in nominally female sporting events. In the process you are happy to ignore - and in fact insist on ignoring - the psychological damage you are inflicting on some fairly messed up people.

It is decidedly unpleasant and anti-social behaviour, and all three of you need to realise that you are acting as complete arseholes - not that this is going to worry any of you, since that does seem to be your preferred mode of interaction with other people.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
IEEE Bill loses again
=====================
David Brown who is a nut case & asshole wrote:
====================================
Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Sure.

And for the remaining 0.1%, the answer is \"it\'s complicated\". Does that
mean those people don\'t get to be treated fairly, don\'t get to be
themselves, don\'t get to live and act the way they feel is natural for them?

** Loaded, rhetorical Qs like the above are completely asinine.
If you have some case to make - why haven\'t you posted it ??

FYI: I won\'t hold my breath while waiting.


Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Why do you feel so threatened by them?

** Same dumb crap again.

> Try a bit of \"live and let live\".

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.

What the fuck is it?
==============


....... Phil
 
On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 4:12:21 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
David Brown wrote:
Kevin Aylward wrote:

<snipped the stuff Phil obviously didn\'t read, probably because it\'s all too hard for him>

** You have a private agenda you are pushing like crazy.
What the fuck is it?

You are repeating yourself, which is fairly clear evidence of insanity. Get somebody to take you to a doctor, who maybe able to work out why you\'ve finally completely lost it - it could be type 2 diabetes messing up your blood sugar levels, or something equally horrible.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
\"David Brown\" wrote in message news:spl89f$a32$1@dont-email.me...

On 16/12/2021 22:19, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Its trivially obvious who is male and female for 99.9+% of cases.

Why do you feel that you need to wage war on people that already have a
hard enough time figuring out their own identity and their place in
society? Why do you feel so threatened by them?

The issue is way, way, larger then you understand. You should actually study
the issue. No one cares about men wearing a dress. That isn\'t the issue.

\"UK Human Rights Comm. MP Joanna Cherry questions Twitter on allowing
violence against women\"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3X0LXARUTE - twitter allows trans
activists to threaten the lives of MPs

and locks out people simply tweeting what was said in Parliament because the
view is not complementary to the trans lobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3X0LXARUTE 15:50


Hint: Social media dictating what political views are allowed and not
allowed.
Thus voters only get one side of the debate. This destroys democracy.

If you actually take the tome to look at these site, its trivially obvious
what the problems are.

Its cancelling, its people losing their jobs, its people being arrested for
stating the truth.

https://sex-matters.org/ Created by a woman who lost her job for stating
the truth.
https://allisonbailey.co.uk/ lesbian barrister suing Stonewall for trying
to get her fired
https://www.transgendertrend.com/
https://fairplayforwomen.com/ The destruction of the rights of woman by the
transgender lobby
https://www.faircop.org.uk/ The destruction of free speech by the
transgender lobby
https://lgballiance.org.uk/ The destruction of what it is to be gay
by the transgender lobby

The transgender lobby are destroying the right to state scientific truth.
Its destroying fundamental biology instruction in universities.


Its endless. Its insidious. The NHS forcing terms such as \"menstruating
people\" rather than \"woman\". Its an Orwellian take over and destruction of
the language. Its destroying the words to express once thoughts. Its
destroying the concept of biological sex. Its a disaster.

Trans gender ideology is fundamentally anti-truth. Its a threat to whenever
truth and facts are required. Its part of the postmodernist, leftist \"there
is no objective reality\"

Yeah.... when a man dies of prostate cancer because he demanded that his
health records identified him as a woman so the scanning appointment was
never sent. Its insane, and its happening right now. It needs to stop.

One needs to actually understand the full implications of what\'s happening.

-- Kevin Aylward

http://www.anasoft.co.uk/ SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
\"Phil Allison\" wrote in message
news:388ee253-df47-4d37-81ef-3e17ec659001n@googlegroups.com...

Kevin Aylward wrote:
================
But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia,
ignorance,
bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.
-- Kevin Aylward


** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in
their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for
women.

Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with
crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.
If you are a nerd.

Yes


-- Kevin Aylward

http://www.anasoft.co.uk/ SuperSpice
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/ee/index.html
 
Kevin Aylward wrote:
=================
But to suggest it will \"destroy\" female sports is simply paranoia,
ignorance, bigotry and intolerance.

Delusional twaddle.
-- Kevin Aylward


** What is going on here is very obvious.

Fact: this NG is chock full of *colossal nerds*.

Egs, IEEE Bill, JL, Phil H, bitrex and a host of others.

Two things that all such nerds famously dislike and studiously avoid in
their lives are *sports* and *women*.
They typically consider all sports to be worthless and have no empathy for
women.

Here we have an issue that involves both sport and women mixed up with
crazy males pretending to be female.

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance.
If you are a nerd.
Yes

** I did it again !!!

Got a thumbs up from Kev......



..... Phil
 
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 7:53:05 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Kevin Aylward wrote:

<snip>

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance. If you are a nerd.
Yes

** I did it again !!!

Got a thumbs up from Kev......

The lunatic endorsing the insane.

The French talk about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

but we\'ve got John Doe as well, so it might be folie à trois.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 7:53:05 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> Kevin Aylward wrote:

<snip>

A guaranteed recipe for rampant cognitive dissonance. If you are a nerd.
Yes

** I did it again !!!

Got a thumbs up from Kev......

The lunatic endorsing the insane.

The French talk about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

but we\'ve got John Doe as well, so it might be folie à trois.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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