OT: That didn't take very long!

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:44:09 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

Moron buys an EV, then damns everyone who won't. I haven't owned a car in over 25 years. Only trucks. The last car was a high powered, retired Sherriff's cruiser. I've owned smaller cars, but I am tall, and they were painful to drive. Even some trucks are too small for me to drive. My favorite car was a restored 1966 red GTO that could wrap the speedometer back to the zero pin.

I bought it with a blown engine and rebuilt it. I installed a heavy duty three speed automatic transmission in it, and modified the drive train and chassis to make it fit, in place of the two speed Powerglide transmission. Gasoline was 8.9 cents a gallon for high test, on base, and it wouldn't hold three dollars worth of gasoline.


The latest is a large SUV, because I needed the low chassis, and extra legroom to be able to get in and out without help. You can stick your electric skateboards where the sun doesn't shine, along with all your lies.

The United States of America is exporting oil, bitch!

How does it feel that every vehicle you've ever owned is pig dog slow compared to a Tesla? My model X which has plenty of room and carries up to 6 passengers will still stomp on anything you've ever owned. It won't wrap the speedo needle though, doesn't have one.

Musk's bitch at work. Amazing, even for a fanboi.

Tesla drivers seem to think in terms of alternating bursts of
acceleration and deceleration. I guess some people enjoy that, but I
know that a lot of passengers don't. Maybe they seldom have
passengers.

I have two driving modes; mine is pretty dynamic, but I tone the jerk
(1st derivative of acceleration, not a synonym for me) way down when
my wife is onboard. I know some guys who get sick from jerk too.

Funny, when she is driving the Audi she enjoys flooring it, like
getting onto a freeway. It's the 3.2L non-turbo V6 and really pushes a
bod into the seat.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:10:07 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Fuels tax does not pay for roads. Vehicle registration and license
fees and state income taxes and federal income taxes do.

AlwaysWrong.

He is right about the fact that fuel taxes are not used to pay for roads and other taxes are used. It all goes into one large budget and no one keeps track of what goes where. So it is completely disingenuous to say fuel taxes pay for roads because they don't.

Does anyone in the government keep track of where YOUR money goes? How about income taxes, anyone track that? Or the franchise fee on your cable? Etc., etc., etc....

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Rick C.

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[Rick C]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:30:55 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:04:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:


The virtue of "capitalism" is that greedy people have to compete.


The virtue of capitalism is that greedy people have to compete by
*pleasing* customers.

Really? I know of several business areas where customer satisfaction is very low and not improving, rather getting worse.

You are confusing capitalism with competition.

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Rick C.

+++- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+++- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:30:55 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:04:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:


The virtue of "capitalism" is that greedy people have to compete.


The virtue of capitalism is that greedy people have to compete by
*pleasing* customers.

Really?

Yes, that is a _fact_. Customers have a choice where they spend their
money. Just because you communists insist that you know better than
everyone else how _they_ should spend _their_ money, doesn't mean it's
true.

> I know of several business areas where customer satisfaction is very low and not improving, rather getting worse.

Yet customers insist on buying from them. I wonder why that is?

>You are confusing capitalism with competition.

You're totally confused. ...about the whole world. Lefties are.

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:10:07 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Fuels tax does not pay for roads. Vehicle registration and license
fees and state income taxes and federal income taxes do.

AlwaysWrong.

He is right about the fact that fuel taxes are not used to pay for roads and other taxes are used. It all goes into one large budget and no one keeps track of what goes where. So it is completely disingenuous to say fuel taxes pay for roads because they don't.

You're AlwaysWrong, too.

>Does anyone in the government keep track of where YOUR money goes? How about income taxes, anyone track that? Or the franchise fee on your cable? Etc., etc., etc....

Irrelevant. AlwaysWrong disease is spreading to you lefties, too.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 10:36:08 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:44:09 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

Moron buys an EV, then damns everyone who won't. I haven't owned a car in over 25 years. Only trucks. The last car was a high powered, retired Sherriff's cruiser. I've owned smaller cars, but I am tall, and they were painful to drive. Even some trucks are too small for me to drive. My favorite car was a restored 1966 red GTO that could wrap the speedometer back to the zero pin.

I bought it with a blown engine and rebuilt it. I installed a heavy duty three speed automatic transmission in it, and modified the drive train and chassis to make it fit, in place of the two speed Powerglide transmission. Gasoline was 8.9 cents a gallon for high test, on base, and it wouldn't hold three dollars worth of gasoline.


The latest is a large SUV, because I needed the low chassis, and extra legroom to be able to get in and out without help. You can stick your electric skateboards where the sun doesn't shine, along with all your lies.

The United States of America is exporting oil, bitch!

How does it feel that every vehicle you've ever owned is pig dog slow compared to a Tesla? My model X which has plenty of room and carries up to 6 passengers will still stomp on anything you've ever owned. It won't wrap the speedo needle though, doesn't have one.

Musk's bitch at work. Amazing, even for a fanboi.

Tesla drivers seem to think in terms of alternating bursts of
acceleration and deceleration. I guess some people enjoy that, but I
know that a lot of passengers don't. Maybe they seldom have
passengers.

Show me a highway you can merge onto without using the accelerator. The regenerative braking is great so you can avoid hitting the car in front of you when his brake lights come on without wasting all that power as heat. Works well at stop lights too. In fact, works where everywhere. So much smoother and easier than moving your foot to the brakes pedal every time.

I have two driving modes; mine is pretty dynamic, but I tone the jerk
(1st derivative of acceleration, not a synonym for me) way down when
my wife is onboard. I know some guys who get sick from jerk too.

Funny, when she is driving the Audi she enjoys flooring it, like
getting onto a freeway. It's the 3.2L non-turbo V6 and really pushes a
bod into the seat.

Yeah. That must be an awesome feeling... lol! Now try it in an EV where you don't get the all the engine noise and it's amazing! No valve train noise, no turbo windup delay. Just pure, smooth, instant power.

It just seems so crude to think of all the moving parts in an ICE.

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Rick C.

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[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:05:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:f1dfae1c-93ba-
403e-b5ac-5542fd425f36@googlegroups.com:

It's the 3.2L non-turbo V6 and really pushes a
bod into the seat.


Hahahahahaha... What a joke.

He has obviously never been in a '60s or '70s era muscle car, much
less one of the hundreds of HP more modern versions of a muscle car.

3.2 whole liters? WOW! NOT!

It's a lot lighter than some rusty old muscle car. The AWD will run
away from any 2WD thing in snow or rain. I can flip down 1/3 of the
rear seat and plop a couple pairs of skis inside in a few seconds, and
toss the boots and parkas and poles in the hatchback. The form factor
is great for driving and parking in the city too. The ungoverned top
speed is claimed to be 156 MPH.

July 4, 2011. Epic year for snow. And mud.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8nndpjpdt163zp/July_4_Mud.jpg?raw=1


I can transport a file cabinet or a modest table and chair or two,
inside or using the rack. Or a full sheet of plywood. Try that in a
GTO!

Pity they discontinued the unblown 3.2 engine. Most everything now is
the whiney, peakey 2.0 turbo.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:30:36 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:30:55 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:04:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:


The virtue of "capitalism" is that greedy people have to compete.


The virtue of capitalism is that greedy people have to compete by
*pleasing* customers.

Really?

Yes, that is a _fact_. Customers have a choice where they spend their
money. Just because you communists insist that you know better than
everyone else how _they_ should spend _their_ money, doesn't mean it's
true.

I know of several business areas where customer satisfaction is very low and not improving, rather getting worse.

Yet customers insist on buying from them. I wonder why that is?

You are confusing capitalism with competition.

You're totally confused. ...about the whole world. Lefties are.

I'm about halfway through reading this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0143113208/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Nazis started controlling parts of the economy, to help mobilize
for the war they lusted after. As unintended consequences piled up,
they had to control more and more. It became a counter-productive
administrative nightmare.

Sort of like Venezuela now. The Chinese Communist Party was smart
enough to give away some economic freedom while maintaining political
control.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:f1dfae1c-93ba-
403e-b5ac-5542fd425f36@googlegroups.com:

It's the 3.2L non-turbo V6 and really pushes a
bod into the seat.

Hahahahahaha... What a joke.

He has obviously never been in a '60s or '70s era muscle car, much
less one of the hundreds of HP more modern versions of a muscle car.

3.2 whole liters? WOW! NOT!

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:79da2f8b-44da-4b63-9a13-929a807ef6ab@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:30:55 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:04:57 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:


The virtue of "capitalism" is that greedy people have to
compete.


The virtue of capitalism is that greedy people have to compete by
*pleasing* customers.

Really? I know of several business areas where customer
satisfaction is very low and not improving, rather getting worse.

Cable TV. Should be $30 a month, and $30 a month more for
internet.

THOSE motherfuckers make hundreds of millions a month, and it
doesn't go back in to operating costs, so you can't tell me that
those wallet sucking assholes are not some of the richest fuckers in
the world.

Then there are other elements of greed...
Power companies should *NEVER* have been privatized.

 

[whit3rd]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 6:28:30 AM UTC-7, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:41:03 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/06/19 15:40, John Larkin wrote:

That was mostly a real estate bubble with a lot of paper profits and paper
losses.

Yup. Traditional capitalist speculation at work.

No speculation at all. The government backed the packaged junk.
Without the federal government, those dodgy loans would never have
been made.

Not true; the VA wasn't lowering its criteria, it was BANKS that were holding
the mortgage paper. The dodgiest loans weren't resaleable, did NOT go
to FNMA etc.

The only 'backing'' was when multiple of the holders got bailouts or
managed buyouts, which was AFTER the bubble burst, and (going by
the European experience in the same bubble) the US government involvement
was (late GW Bush, early Obama) well-aimed at smoothing the transition.

Yup. That is indeed what the capitalists did, and how
the capitalists screwed the economy and us and our
children.

No, that's what *government* did.

Why do you say that? When? How? What deeds are you thinking of?

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:38:18 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:23:23 -0700 (PDT), Rick C wrote:

I believe that is what I said, vision is damaged by >>>uncontrolled<<< diabetes.

It seems that Michael's diabetes pleases you no end. Typical lefty.

May he live long enough to have many, many health issues, then be put under Nurse Ratched's care!

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:39:20 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell wrote:

Do comic books, or coloring books count?

How about regular visits to a bookie?

Who would let him place any bet? He would just deny it, when he lost the bet, and refuse to pay the bookie.

OTOH, that could prove to be interesting...

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 12:29:39 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

I can transport a file cabinet or a modest table and chair or two,
inside or using the rack. Or a full sheet of plywood. Try that in a
GTO!

A 66 GTO is worth a lot more than your car, so why ruin the interior?

That GTO was 400HP. It wasn't a family car, or a delivery truck. It was the best selling Pontiac, ever built. One of mine was bright red, with the original Red Stripe Tigerpaw tires It was comfortable to drive, and quite stable on bad roads. If you've never driven one, you have no idea what they were like. The bucket seats were great, and it handled like a dream. I bought it cheap, after the engine was blown, at Edgewater Speedway, near Cincinnati, Ohio. It had the stock 389YS GTO special engine, but it was replaced with a 421 C.I.D. that I built for it. I got my draft notice, the day I finished rebuilding the engine, and installing a bigger transmission. It was great, getting my hands greasy, after eight or more hours working on Electronics. You should try it some time. Not just simple repairs, but modifying the drive tray, the chassis, and even the interior. I was told that the rear deck din't have room for two speakers. I made them fit, then I made a new line for it. I bought a NOS Buick AM/FM/FM Stereo radio, and ordered Delco parts to make it fit the dash's opening. I replaced the dash, because the fool who blew the engine had used a jig saw to cut hole for gauges. I replaced it with one with the OEM gauges. I was a 20 year old, and I loved the look of the car, It ran like a scaleded dog, I still miss it, even though I had to let go of it 30+ years ago.

That's what trucks are for. I could haul your car inside my Stepvan, and have enough room left to walk around it. In low gear, the top speed saw 5MPH, and it stayed on the icy roads when the 4W drive vehicles were sitting in the ditches. I hauled 4'x12' sheets of drywall inside that truck, and it was an electronics shop on wheels. I still have the workbench from it, in my four car garage.

BTW, that GTO stayed on the road when I was stationed in Alabama in 1973. I passed hundreds of cars sitting in the ditches on my way to the airfield where I worked.

I was certified for emergency drive conditions in Alaska, later that year. I passed the tests, the first try. If I was interested in Skiing, there was enough snow, year round. They didn't plow the roads, they used a road grader to turn it into pack ice. The main highway was built during WW II, and was still laughingly called a gravel road. The 'gravel' was the size of your fist, nd a very bad road for the couple warm months. It was like a newly poured concrete road, once all the gaps were pack tightly with snow. It also let you make the trip without losing all the paint from the front and sides of the vehicle.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/20/19 2:37 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

Keep blathering about things that you don't know, and show >everyone what a fool you are. You don't research anything, you >just blather like Sloman and that Linux ding-dong

You are getting good...

I especially like how foreigners tell us how to live when the only information they have about us is from the media. Oh yeah they were here fro three months back in fucking 1967 so they are an expert on life here.

If we don't give up our guns and vote for Hillary we are stupid, insane or uninformed. They should know, they're ten fucking thousand miles away.

"We have less mass shootings than you".

"Yeah, and we don't have people in jail for hate speech". (well CLOSE to true, but usually you have to DO something here)

there are people in jail for all sorts of silly reasons like e.g.
possessing weed and also e.g. not having enough money to not end up there.

The Linux dude, well, he makes sense every once in a while. Usually on electronics. Slowman is hopeless. Even if his indoctrination wasn't so complete he is too old to change. He never saw any consequences.

Now bit, he is a liberal but not an ultrasickening liberal. He has much less severe TDS.

I'm the type who has to work for a living but am pretty happy with that
state of affairs. Lots of people of all types are miserable in their
profession. yeah a lot probably have a nicer car and bigger home but so
what?

Being a rock star might be more enjoyable, at least for a little while,
but all the attention and paparazzi and such up your ass constantly
sounds dreadful, and even banging groupies probably gets tiresome after
a while. and sleeping with American women isn't particularly difficult
even if you're a non-rock-star.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/21/19 10:35 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 09:44:09 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

Moron buys an EV, then damns everyone who won't. I haven't owned a car in over 25 years. Only trucks. The last car was a high powered, retired Sherriff's cruiser. I've owned smaller cars, but I am tall, and they were painful to drive. Even some trucks are too small for me to drive. My favorite car was a restored 1966 red GTO that could wrap the speedometer back to the zero pin.

I bought it with a blown engine and rebuilt it. I installed a heavy duty three speed automatic transmission in it, and modified the drive train and chassis to make it fit, in place of the two speed Powerglide transmission. Gasoline was 8.9 cents a gallon for high test, on base, and it wouldn't hold three dollars worth of gasoline.


The latest is a large SUV, because I needed the low chassis, and extra legroom to be able to get in and out without help. You can stick your electric skateboards where the sun doesn't shine, along with all your lies.

The United States of America is exporting oil, bitch!

How does it feel that every vehicle you've ever owned is pig dog slow compared to a Tesla? My model X which has plenty of room and carries up to 6 passengers will still stomp on anything you've ever owned. It won't wrap the speedo needle though, doesn't have one.

Musk's bitch at work. Amazing, even for a fanboi.

Tesla drivers seem to think in terms of alternating bursts of
acceleration and deceleration. I guess some people enjoy that, but I
know that a lot of passengers don't. Maybe they seldom have
passengers.

I have two driving modes; mine is pretty dynamic, but I tone the jerk
(1st derivative of acceleration, not a synonym for me) way down when
my wife is onboard. I know some guys who get sick from jerk too.

Funny, when she is driving the Audi she enjoys flooring it, like
getting onto a freeway. It's the 3.2L non-turbo V6 and really pushes a
bod into the seat.

telsa owners are the BMW owners of the EV world.

I like it when I see a BMW illegally parked with the dealer stickers
still on it gotta start working on that BMW-driver character early!

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:38:18 AM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:23:23 -0700 (PDT), Rick C wrote:

I believe that is what I said, vision is damaged by >>>uncontrolled<<< diabetes.

It seems that Michael's diabetes pleases you no end. Typical lefty.

May he live long enough to have many, many health issues, then be put under Nurse Ratched's care!

Government healthcare would be enough.

 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 6:28:30 AM UTC-7, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:41:03 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/06/19 15:40, John Larkin wrote:

That was mostly a real estate bubble with a lot of paper profits and paper
losses.

Yup. Traditional capitalist speculation at work.

No speculation at all. The government backed the packaged junk.
Without the federal government, those dodgy loans would never have
been made.

Not true; the VA wasn't lowering its criteria, it was BANKS that were holding
the mortgage paper. The dodgiest loans weren't resaleable, did NOT go
to FNMA etc.

The only 'backing'' was when multiple of the holders got bailouts or
managed buyouts, which was AFTER the bubble burst, and (going by
the European experience in the same bubble) the US government involvement
was (late GW Bush, early Obama) well-aimed at smoothing the transition.

Complete bullshit. The banks losses were being guaranteed. Of course
they're going to give dodgy loans. Bailing them out didn't help, at
least long term.

Yup. That is indeed what the capitalists did, and how
the capitalists screwed the economy and us and our
children.

No, that's what *government* did.

Why do you say that? When? How? What deeds are you thinking of?

By guaranteeing loans. By the asinine anti-redlining rules. The
government was essentially forcing the banks to make stupid loans.

 

[whit3rd]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 8:13:24 PM UTC-7, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 6:28:30 AM UTC-7, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:41:03 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/06/19 15:40, John Larkin wrote:

That was mostly a real estate bubble with a lot of paper profits and paper
losses.

Yup. Traditional capitalist speculation at work.

No speculation at all. The government backed the packaged junk.
Without the federal government, those dodgy loans would never have
been made.

Not true; the VA wasn't lowering its criteria, it was BANKS that were holding
the mortgage paper. The dodgiest loans weren't resaleable, did NOT go
to FNMA etc.

The only 'backing'' was when multiple of the holders got bailouts or
managed buyouts, which was AFTER the bubble burst...

Complete bullshit. The banks losses were being guaranteed.

Yup. That is indeed what the capitalists did

No, that's what *government* did.

Why do you say that? When? How? What deeds are you thinking of?

By guaranteeing loans. By the asinine anti-redlining rules. The
government was essentially forcing the banks to make stupid loans.

No, the guaranteed loans were rules-bound ones resold; banks went bankrupt
because they HADN'T sold the others," liar loans", which went into default,
but had marketed 'em as bundled securities internationally.
That's why Europe had the same crash the US did; it was called
'spreading the risk' and marketed as a dilution-of-risk hedge.

 

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:5s0qge1p94tvuushtp1pp7tka3omcj4dkl@4ax.com:

> It's a lot lighter than some rusty old muscle car.

You have obviously never seen a 350HP small block V8 pull the front
wheels of an AMC Gremlin a foot and a half off the ground at the start
line.

You talk about weight. I talk about power. So despite the double
weight, dufus.... those muscle cars could STILL set you back in the
seat better than your shit V6. You obviously have no clue, but seem to
be full of stupid irrelavent comments like "rusty" and "old".