OT: more from the resident alarmist

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 1:12:21 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 5:12:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 11:23:39 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:37:37 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:


Zerohedge is resolutely alarmist, but this is interesting:

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/does-sudden-surge-so2-levels-suggest-huge-surge-cremations-across-china

I didn't run this item past Bill Sloman for his permission first, but
here goes:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1240523/Coronavirus-satellite-image-scale-of-coronavirus-outbreak-infections-coronavirus-cremation

It's the kind of speculation you'd expect to see published in the Express.

The idea that cremating human remains could push up atmospheric SO2 levels by a perceptible amount is scientifically illiterate. Much of the SO2 in the atmosphere comes from burning coal and oil - coal-fired power stations have SO2 scrubbers in their chimney's, introduced back when "acid rain" was recognised as a problem. If there's more SO2 in the air over Wuhan, the most likely explanation is that the people who keep the SO2 scrubbers working right have been told to stay at home.

Except that the power plants are not in the city. Even Chinese are not dumb enough to put power plants inside the city. There are three slightly red areas to the left of the city. That's where the power plants are in.

Which way was the wind blowing at the time? A lot of of the acid rain in Scandinavia had been blown in from neighbouring countries.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 1:33:00 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

PLAs are already in the cities. Tanks are already in the city borders. Beijing and Shanghai are in locked-down. Don't know what else to tell you anyway. So, just wait and see.

The People Liberation Army has always been around in China, and tanks featured at Tiananmen Square back in 1989.

Yes, using tanks in street when problem is serious enough.
Perhaps it happens often in your country.
But in our country, tanks stay in bases and not in road checkpoints.

For the moment. China isn't my country, and its history and traditions are different from Australia's.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bob Engelhardt]

On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
....

--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

 

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 2/10/20 12:37 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:10:15 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/annashedletsky/2020/02/07/coronavirus-hits-electronics-manufacturing-hard-companies-are-scrambling/#75d2b797369c

(Electronic) Factories have been shut down as part of the unprecedented extended Lunar New Year,
which was supposed to end on January 30, and has now been extended until February 9
(not a chance) at the earliest.
(local government requires 14 days quarantine after reporting to factory)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-cases-on-cruise-ship-climb-to-136-11581322993

Coronavirus Cases on Cruise Ship Climb to 135
(they need more flesh air)
(should sent the ship to warmer climate, Australia?)


Zerohedge is resolutely alarmist, but this is interesting:

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/does-sudden-surge-so2-levels-suggest-huge-surge-cremations-across-china

Meanwhile, a lot of PC boards are not being shipped.



The official death toll is under 1000 you know how many people lung
cancer kills in a year in China?

Lung cancer isn't transmissible and growing exponentially.

 

[bitrex]

On 2/11/20 1:07 AM, whit3rd wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:10:19 AM UTC-8, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

Last week, researchers from the University of Hong Kong estimated 75,815 had been infected
in Wuhan as of Jan. 25 and projected the epidemic would double every 6.4 days.

That's the big reveal; the exponential growth time constant means that, unchecked,
the last uninfected region succumbs...in this calendar year. Too soon for a vaccine solution.

Cities are especially swift in transmission, and it started in a city, but this could easily
outpace the flu pandemic of 1918-1920 because there's more population in cities nowadays.

There's good evidence influenza can be spread by aerosol droplets
(airborne) but none so far that the coronavirus is spread other
than through close personal contact/large droplets.

 

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

And since when are even "conservative estimates" exact?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

lists exact numbers. It's fairly straightforward to extrapolate from the current number of confirmed infections to the likely number who have been infected and haven't yet been tested and confirmed, but extrapolation isn't an exact process.

You can fit a logistic function to the confirmed infections so far, and if you confine yourself to Wuhan and Hubei you could even be looking at a fairly homogeneous sample, but it still isn't going to be exact.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:46:58 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

And since when are even "conservative estimates" exact?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This correspond exactly to the Baidu data. I believe they are from the same source.

lists exact numbers. It's fairly straightforward to extrapolate from the current number of confirmed infections to the likely number who have been infected and haven't yet been tested and confirmed, but extrapolation isn't an exact process.

You can fit a logistic function to the confirmed infections so far, and if you confine yourself to Wuhan and Hubei you could even be looking at a fairly homogeneous sample, but it still isn't going to be exact.

The problem is that the system is overwhelmed in WuHan. In a small district of several hundred possible infected, they were told to report/admit only one case per day. They are running out of quota in hospital.

The real problem is that you will believe anything you are told - if it is alarmist enough - and don't bother telling us who has been playing on your anxieties.

Lying about the number of people getting sick would be a crashingly stupid approach, and while the Chinese system is rigid and authoritarian, there no evidence that it is that stupid.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

And since when are even "conservative estimates" exact?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This correspond exactly to the Baidu data. I believe they are from the same source.

lists exact numbers. It's fairly straightforward to extrapolate from the current number of confirmed infections to the likely number who have been infected and haven't yet been tested and confirmed, but extrapolation isn't an exact process.

You can fit a logistic function to the confirmed infections so far, and if you confine yourself to Wuhan and Hubei you could even be looking at a fairly homogeneous sample, but it still isn't going to be exact.

The problem is that the system is overwhelmed in WuHan. In a small district of several hundred possible infected, they were told to report/admit only one case per day. They are running out of quota in hospital.

 

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

 

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 7:00:13 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:04:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn)..

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

Where? And when? In fact I rate the BBC and CNN as fairly reliable main-stream media. USA Today is something of a US propaganda organ, but if they lie it's by omission, and their aim is to seen as centrist by their US audience (which makes them rather right-wing on the world stage).

Claiming that I don't believe any of them is one more of your fatuous inventions.

Read the first posting of this thread.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:04:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

Where? And when? In fact I rate the BBC and CNN as fairly reliable main-stream media. USA Today is something of a US propaganda organ, but if they lie it's by omission, and their aim is to seen as centrist by their US audience (which makes them rather right-wing on the world stage).

Claiming that I don't believe any of them is one more of your fatuous inventions.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 2:10:25 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 7:00:13 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:04:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

Where? And when? In fact I rate the BBC and CNN as fairly reliable main-stream media. USA Today is something of a US propaganda organ, but if they lie it's by omission, and their aim is to seen as centrist by their US audience (which makes them rather right-wing on the world stage).

Claiming that I don't believe any of them is one more of your fatuous inventions.

Read the first posting of this thread.

Which was mostly you building on real news to paint a decidedly more alarmist picture than they justified. You've not gone in for links to actual news since then - ZeroHedge doesn't count as a news source.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:04:55 UTC, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

lol, arguing with him is a waste of time. He's spent most of his life coming up with manipulative bs responses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qve6Ug-qzPY


NT

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 10:20:15 PM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:04:55 UTC, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn).

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

lol, arguing with him is a waste of time. He's spent most of his life coming up with manipulative bs responses.

NT doesn't like it when he gets called on his manipulative information-free posts, and has decided - unsurprisingly - that the fault isn't in his nonsense postings but rather in my sceptical responses to them.

It is a trifle transparent, but NT is a little too dim to realise quite how obvious his silly game is.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 6:20:15 AM UTC-5, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:04:55 UTC, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:56:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 12:41:55 PM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:03:10 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:46:21 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 8:10:23 AM UTC-8, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 2/10/2020 12:10 PM, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
...
--- conservative estimates ---

W0 W1 W2 W3 W4 W5 W6
R0 12/30 1/6 1/13 1/20 1/27 2/3 2/10
WH 2.0 41 192 905 2766 13004 26008 52017
LS 1.8 180 324 583 1049
RS 1.8 197 354 638 1148
RW 1.8 137 246 443 798
G2 1.8 1120 2016 3628 6531
SH 1.5 98 147 220 330
BJ 1.5 113 169 254 381
HK 1.8 17 30
JP 1.5 100 150
US 1.5 11 16
...

Where did you get these numbers?

Baidu.com front page first button. All exact for WuHan (Ground 0).

So you can read Chinese characters?

Yes, read and hear.

It's not an easy skill for Westerners to acquire (nor for native born Chinese either - alphabetic and syllabic systems are much easier to learn)..

A link to the same information after it had been through a translation system would help.

I gave links to BBC, CNN, USA Today, etc. You don't believe any of them anyway.

lol, arguing with him is a waste of time. He's spent most of his life coming up with manipulative bs responses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qve6Ug-qzPY

Interesting video. I dated a lady once who had an anxiety disorder. I tried to deal with it for some time as I really liked her when the anxiety wasn't in force. But eventually she hit a rough patch and I kept trying to help her through it by reasoning with her. While in small doses anxiety can be reasoned away, in larger does reason has no effect. The anxiety disorder is just that, a disorder that is not rational. In the end it became too much for me to handle obliquely and I tried flat out telling her this was her anxiety disorder and she needed to take more of her medicine. I think at that point I fit the video definition of a toxic person. In the end I had to leave. If it was toxic to her, it was even more toxic to me.

The fact that someone criticizes you does not automatically mean the problem is them. Using a label like "toxic" is not automatically insightful.

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[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:20:15 AM UTC-8, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:

> lol, arguing with him is a waste of time. He's spent most of his life coming up with....

Actually, a valid argument isn't 'with him' at all, it can stand as a useful guide to all who
read here. Your problem (contention) wouldn't exist if your arguments were valid.