OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

[Phil Hobbs]

Asa Cannell wrote:

Would anybody like to share their most sensitive photodiode stories? I
am curious just how far photodioes have been pushed as far as
sensitivity, especially at room temperature and with off the shelf
components.

Asa
G. Eppeldauer and J. E. Hardis, "Fourteen decade photocurrent measurements

with photodiodes at room temperature", Applied Optics v30, n22, pp. 3091-3099.

These guys got the noise down to a few hundred electrons/s in millihertz
bandwidths, at dc, at 20 C.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

 

[maxfoo]

A small-town high school football coach befriends an illiterate, developmentally
disabled man nicknamed "Radio," who has always been the target of jokes and
teasing.

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <20040922135642.04433.00001196@mb-m05.aol.com>,
Rolavine <rolavine@aol.com> wrote:
[...]

Are you sure it would destroy the floppies, I dont' think so, I think it just
looks at them to check that you own them.

Windows95 demanded that the DOS floppy not be write protected and trashed
it so the DOS on it won't ever install again. I assume that ME would do
the same to the Win98 floppies and am not about to switch off the write
protect to find out.

I have my previous Windows on CDRom
so it couldn't destroy that. If microsoft was going to destroy your floppies
I'm sure it would tell you first. And you could just make coppies of your
floppies anyway.

Copies of Win98 install floppies will not install Win98. There is some
thing non-standard about the Win98 floppies.

[...]

Have you looked at your bios settings. I've sometimes had to tell bios that it
is not using a Plug and play aware operating system to get Me to run OK. In
this case the bios routines set the addresses and interrupts and not ME.

I've tried both "plug and pray" on and off. It is currently on.

Good luck, I'm still running ME, with good results on 6 computers. The geat
thing is that no one is bothering to make new virus for it.

You can still get hit if you run outlook and have any of the windows
office stuff installed. The virus checkers don't check for all posible
bad macros. They check for the ones that have been seen. If someone
writes a new macro exploit, it may get you.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Clarence]

"Kevin Aylward" <salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Lrj4d.57774$U04.21779@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

You seem to good at one thing, name calling.

I will shut up if and when I decide, you have no credibility to recommend or to
order.

Do not ask me why.
I will not reply to questions.

You also seem to ignore what was said, or failed to understand it. More likely
the latter.

Your past misconduct tells me that no matter what is said you have a lame
excuse for it. Recognized experts are 'all' wrong, only you know because wrote
it. Not good enough to publish, just bait for argument. Your "Pet Snake" is
out of the cage.

 

[Ian Stirling]

Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

Zorpetus wrote:
Is there any modem connection sniffer hardware/software?

I mean a device (tap) that could be connected to a phone line,
and to record network traffic made over dial-up connection over
that telephone line (for V.90 protocol for example). I am not
reffering to those "com port sniffer" or "modem sniffers" that
have to be installed on the "target" PC, but something that would
be used outside the house, by tapping the telephone lines.


Any hint and/or link is more than welcome!

And of course - I need it only for information purpose!

Yes, this should be possible. In fact, I heard about one device that
could sniff a modem (external) connection from a good distance by
"watching" the TX and RX activity LEDs on the front panel!

I find this difficult to believe for modern modems.
The bits are simply too fast, and to make them visible all recent modems
that I've seen have some sort of pulse-stretcher to make them more visible.

 

[Clarence]

"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in message
news:Zik4d.288182$Lj.82906@fed1read03...

Clarence wrote:

I made an assumption (about Kevin's possible analogization) and
deduced from there. If you choose to take offense at that on others'
behalf, go right ahead; I just don't care.

I should have known, your cut from the same cloth, you think you can demand
that others much jump through your hoop. I expressed an opinion, and you
object to any but your own. Well..... in the words of someone on this NG "I
just don't care."

 

[YD]

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:54:14 +0100, Paul Burridge
<pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:36:43 -0700, Guy Macon
http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:

Just a crazy old coot running a three-man garage shop, losing money
and wondering why some kinds of resistors can't be adjusted with
a Dremel (hint: fine little helixes...)

I was just cogitating earlier on the TO-92 package for UHF devices.
Often these are also available in surface mount, which is obviously
better for the higher frequency limits of the device in question.
Given that zero lead length is the ideal with through-hole, is it
practicable to scuff away enough of the top side of a PCB (with a
dremmel) where the device is to be placed to reduce the board
thickness down to a few mil and thereby eliminate a small amount of
stray lead inductance in the process? Is it worth the effort for the
minimal amount shaved off?

No. What I have seen is cutting a hole in the board and placing the
tranny sideways in it, then solder the leads to the pads. I that case
it was to shave off a bit of overall thickness but should work for
other purposes too.

- YD.

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Remove HAT if replying by mail.

 

[dd]

In message <10l20caom0njoaa@corp.supernews.com>, Andrey
<a8421@intergate.bc.ca> writes

I was thinking to remove ovenized crystal from SARSAT emergency beacon. I
guess it will not work. You prognosis in your last EMail matches very
accurately to my findings. Thank you for help.

What do you need such accuracy for?

John




TCXOs have to sweep a wide temperature range and all crystals have small

purturbations over temperature due to unwanted responses. An OCXO
crystal sits between the temperatures that give purturbations.
There was an emergency beacon that employed a crystal under the armpit
to maintain close temperature control.
I could envisage other constant temperature locations.
An SC cut matched to the individual could meet your requirements.



--
dd

 

[Chris Holmes]

Ian Stirling wrote:

Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

Zorpetus wrote:

Is there any modem connection sniffer hardware/software?

I mean a device (tap) that could be connected to a phone line,
and to record network traffic made over dial-up connection over
that telephone line (for V.90 protocol for example). I am not
reffering to those "com port sniffer" or "modem sniffers" that
have to be installed on the "target" PC, but something that would
be used outside the house, by tapping the telephone lines.


Any hint and/or link is more than welcome!

And of course - I need it only for information purpose!

Yes, this should be possible. In fact, I heard about one device that
could sniff a modem (external) connection from a good distance by
"watching" the TX and RX activity LEDs on the front panel!


I find this difficult to believe for modern modems.
The bits are simply too fast, and to make them visible all recent modems
that I've seen have some sort of pulse-stretcher to make them more visible.

For modern modems I agree completely. I forgot to mention that this
setup was with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem, something along those lines.

However, sniffing a V.90 should be possible by tapping the phone line, I
would think.

Chris

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Don Pearce <donald@pearce.uk.com>
wrote (in <4158c8f8.45601046@news.plus.net&gt about '[OT]: Ping Kevin
Aylward - re your "scientific paper"', on Wed, 22 Sep 2004:

Interesting then that the dictionary definitions you so kindly provided
conform more or less exactly to my own, while they are a million miles
from your chosen "they are axioms because I say they are".

Yes, that's dictionaries for you. They should be barred from defining
technical terms that they don't understand.

Axioms DO NOT have to be self-evident. In fact, in my post about non-
planar geometry I gave two examples of Fifth Postulates that are very
far from self-evident, and are incompatible with each other and with
Euclid's, yet all three are valuable.

In Chambers Dictionary, the Witch of Agnesi equation is given as

x^2y = 4a^2(2a-y)

A little algebra results in the far simpler form:

y = A/(1 + X^2), where A = 2a and X = x/A (i.e. the x-axis is just
linearly scaled. Before your jump all over me, there are a number of
other forms of the equation, all equivalent.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Don Pearce <donald@pearce.uk.com>
wrote (in <4159c962.45707078@news.plus.net&gt about '[OT]: Ping Kevin
Aylward - re your "scientific paper"', on Wed, 22 Sep 2004:

So if I declare an axiom that black is, in fact white - I can build a
theory that states that all black objects are actually white objects,
and as a useful corollary, all white objects are actually black.

You could, if you deleted the word 'useful'. In effect, you would have
re-defined the English words 'white' and 'black', but that is not a
useful action.

You can state ANYTHING as an axiom if it is internally consistent. But
not all axioms are useful. Some sets of axioms define Universes other
than the one we are in.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:44:55 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Don Pearce <donald@pearce.uk.com
wrote (in <4159c962.45707078@news.plus.net&gt about '[OT]: Ping Kevin
Aylward - re your "scientific paper"', on Wed, 22 Sep 2004:

So if I declare an axiom that black is, in fact white - I can build a
theory that states that all black objects are actually white objects,
and as a useful corollary, all white objects are actually black.

You could, if you deleted the word 'useful'. In effect, you would have
re-defined the English words 'white' and 'black', but that is not a
useful action.

You can state ANYTHING as an axiom if it is internally consistent. But
not all axioms are useful. Some sets of axioms define Universes other
than the one we are in.

So much for axiom-based theories, then. You and Kevin have just
rendered the whole lot invalid at a stroke. I'm convinced - anyone
else?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

 

[Joerg]

Hi John,

I use AutoCAD.



Can we call you 'Mr. Moneybags' in future?


I remember AutoCAD came out with a small low-end program that cost, I

believe, under $100. It won't likely suffice to design a bridge or an
engine but it should be enough to create a meter.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Mike Monett]

John Larkin wrote:

[...]

Why not start with a passive divider, thin-film or something?

The capacitance of widely-separated electrodes is asymptotic to the
free-space value. This means the capacitance may be very much larger than
calculated from standard formulas. Here's an analysis of the field lines
on widely-separated circular plates. See the section at the end, titled
"Plates relatively far apart":

"As the distance between the plates increases even further, the
ovoids become increasingly symmetrical, until they approach
ellipsoids. In the limit, the plates cease to interact at all, and
each plate holds a charge based only on its potential with respect
to the surrounding space. Thus, as the equipotentials approach
ellipsoids, the capacitance approaches a constant value that is
independent of further increases in plate distance."

http://www.ttc-cmc.net/~fme/captance.html

So a thin film resistor may or may not reach the ~0.05 pf stray
capacitance needed. I tried using a 2D field solver, but ran into the
problem of accounting for the fringing fields off the sides of the
contacts. Obviously the problem is solvable - both companies did it. But
it's not clear how.

A small PHEMT might have Cgs of 0.2 pF (naked chip) and Cgd even less,
so it doesn't sound exotic... just a lot of hard work to keep the
response clean.

Agree - solvable, with a lot of effort. Of course, you need the toys to
play with this stuff

I still think a dual-gate mesfet follower could be a neat, cheap
active probe. Bootstrap G2 and the input resistor, and servo it to
Idss to kill the offset and LF dispersion. Some of the available IC
buffers/followers would make a pretty nice probe, too.

2 to 6GHz is easy. We need a minimum of 20 to 30GHz bandwidth to handle
Gigacom, plus any exotic stuff you might come up with

John

Regards,

Mike Monett

 

[Winfield Hill]

davez wrote...

Not exactly a photodiode story but: I remember 15 or 20 years
ago working with a friend using an FET in a white ceramic package
that made a great 60 HZ/120 HZ detector when placed on a bench
under a florescent lamp! We spent a few minutes trying to discover
why a circuit with a clean DC supply would have power supply ripple!
Duh! We got a good chuckle out of that.

Had left the gate floating, did we?


--
Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:21:50 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hi John,

I use AutoCAD.



Can we call you 'Mr. Moneybags' in future?


I remember AutoCAD came out with a small low-end program that cost, I
believe, under $100. It won't likely suffice to design a bridge or an
engine but it should be enough to create a meter.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

AutoSketch

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Goran Larsson]

In article <10l3s7qea3o6062@corp.supernews.com>,
Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

However, sniffing a V.90 should be possible by tapping the phone line, I
would think.

How? A third "modem" listening somewhere between the two modems will
need a a method to separate the signals from the two modems. The two
modems can do this as they know what they send and has trained their
echo cancel algorithm during the initial connect. The third "modem"
can't use this method and will have a very difficult time listening to
the traffic. I have never heard of any equipment that can do this, but
it is possible that some government funded organization have designed
this kind of equipment...

--
Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/

 

[Jim Thompson]

On 22 Sep 2004 15:29:56 -0700, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

davez wrote...

Not exactly a photodiode story but: I remember 15 or 20 years
ago working with a friend using an FET in a white ceramic package
that made a great 60 HZ/120 HZ detector when placed on a bench
under a florescent lamp! We spent a few minutes trying to discover
why a circuit with a clean DC supply would have power supply ripple!
Duh! We got a good chuckle out of that.

Had left the gate floating, did we?

I don't have much experience with JFETs, but bipolars will detect IR
straight thru the plastic package, even when properly biased.

TI used to have a line of IR photo diodes that were just like the "D"
plastic BJT package... no windows ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Ian Stirling]

Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ian Stirling wrote:
Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

Zorpetus wrote:

Is there any modem connection sniffer hardware/software?

I mean a device (tap) that could be connected to a phone line,
and to record network traffic made over dial-up connection over
that telephone line (for V.90 protocol for example). I am not
reffering to those "com port sniffer" or "modem sniffers" that
have to be installed on the "target" PC, but something that would
be used outside the house, by tapping the telephone lines.


Any hint and/or link is more than welcome!

And of course - I need it only for information purpose!

Yes, this should be possible. In fact, I heard about one device that
could sniff a modem (external) connection from a good distance by
"watching" the TX and RX activity LEDs on the front panel!


I find this difficult to believe for modern modems.
The bits are simply too fast, and to make them visible all recent modems
that I've seen have some sort of pulse-stretcher to make them more visible.

For modern modems I agree completely. I forgot to mention that this
setup was with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem, something along those lines.

However, sniffing a V.90 should be possible by tapping the phone line, I
would think.

Well, yes.
Sniffing anything is possible, V90 is a bit harder than V21, as you've got
to split the line, and work out the echo cancellation that both modems
are doing.

In nearly all cases, doing a modem-in-the-middle attack is going
to be easier.

 

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

Ryan wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<kap2l0pkj9h34e9cq4s16d9lhffc858627@4ax.com>...

On 21 Sep 2004 17:08:30 -0700, presslab@hotmail.com (Ryan) wrote:

I'm sorry if I'm not interesting enough, or perhaps a "leech", or
maybe just not very political. I hope you all forgive me.

---
Yeah, bite the hand that feeds you; that's the way to do it!


At least I provoked a response. I've been a lurker on-and-off on this
newsgroup for years. I don't ever remember it being as bad as of
late. It could be selective memory.

Many other engineering groups are much more civilized, why is the EE
group so nutty and off-topic?

ARSE!

In any case my response was directed at those who made the comments I
alluded to and not everyone on the group. I know there are still some
respectable people here.

Thank you.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org