OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <null@example.net>
wrote (in <Ywl5d.2283$Ym1.392@trnddc03&gt about 'triumph and tragedy,
almost', on Sat, 25 Sep 2004:

On Saturday 25 September 2004 07:09 am, YD did deign to grace us with the
following:

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:40:33 +0100, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

Well, here's the pix, anyway:
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig1.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig2.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig3.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig4.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig5.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig6.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig7.jpg
http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/fig8.jpg

Thank you. It still leaves me with the unresolved problem though.

--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Tom Seim <soar2morrow@yahoo.com>
wrote (in <6c71b322.0409251607.2ea38375@posting.google.com&gt about 'OT:
Kerry Has 45 Pt Lead Among US Jews', on Sat, 25 Sep 2004:

John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message news:<sb3uAqAdgZV
BFwDh@jmwa.demon.co.uk>...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Tom Seim <soar2morrow@yahoo.com
wrote (in <6c71b322.0409250731.35e12a7f@posting.google.com&gt about 'OT:
Kerry Has 45 Pt Lead Among US Jews', on Sat, 25 Sep 2004:

Kerry makes the REAL JFK look like a (strong) Republican!

Real? Is there an imaginary one, then?

Yeah; it's a shadow of the real one.


Tell you what; we'll take Kerry and you can have John 'Two Jags'
Prescott. How about that?

I don't think I need a Prime Minister. Prime rib, maybe.

Prescott is Deputy Prime Minister. But you could get lots of ribs and
steaks off him. The only problem is that even the jus would be tough.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Clifford Heath]

YD wrote:

Acrobat seems to crash in practically any browser, bogs down the box
and is impossible to close down without taking everything else with
it. My work-around is to d/l the file and open it up separately.

There's an option in preferences to ask it to always open its own
window, never use a plug-in. Just found that on Friday.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlog
DOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <ermbl0pmk5qhnuagcl202bcp6o32r7l1e5@4ax.com&gt
about 'If Gore invented the Internet, what about John Kerry?', on Sat,
25 Sep 2004:

I have irrefutable evidence that they were spoken by James Garfield.

Or maybe Garfield the cat.

No, I asked a man named James Garfield to say them. I couldn't find a
man who admitted being called George Bush or John Kerry.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ken Smith
<kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote (in <cj4nag$g7l$5@blue.rahul.net&gt
about 'If Gore invented the Internet, what about John Kerry?', on Sat,
25 Sep 2004:

In article <zeN5hgA19cVBFwxW@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
[...]
I have irrefutable evidence that they were spoken by James Garfield.

I've got copies of the typewritten documents signed by him.

The signature is obviously forged.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[john jardine]

"Guy Macon" <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote in message
news:10larlcc5e1il6f@news.supernews.com...

Gouardo.Pat <gouardo.pat@wanadoo.fr> says...

[clip]

The next thing to try (it won't work, but you should try
anyway) is snail-mail, fax and telephone:

Quickroute Systems Ltd
Regent House, Heaton Lane, Stockport, SK4 1BS, U.K.
Tel 0161 476 0202
Fax 0161 476 0505
info@quicksys.demon.co.uk
http://www.quickroute.co.uk/

[clip]
I'm near Regents House next week. Think I'll call in and gloat maniacally
over their demise.
Bought one once. Used it for 30 minutes. Found it so bad I eventually
managed to get a refund under the sale of goods act. "Goods must be fit for
the purpose intended" !.
And yet 'ole PC Logic has just called a halt, although they have a much
better prog'. Strange world.
regards
john

 

[R.Lewis]

<snovotill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r61cl0tds85p1rjvenqe9rqjk36a5j3vsc@4ax.com...

Can we at least agree that a 1 second pulse is not brighter than a
100ms pulse? If not, then where do you draw the line?

If you bother to learn something about the subject you would not need to ask
such silly questions.

Personally I draw it at apprix 15ms but that is my own judgement.
Some literature draws it at 10ms.

Draw the line where you like - just don't believe it means anything.


I think a lot of people would like to see the reference " Some literature
draws it at 10ms." - especially Ms Goodman at the CIE whose (Div 2) report
begins ...

Division 2. Physical measurement of light and radiation

UK Representative: Miss T M Goodman. Tel: 020 8943 6863.
e-mail:teresa.goodman@npl.co.uk

A major activity this year was the joint Division 1/Division 2 symposium on
ěTemporal and Spatial Aspects of Light and Colour Perception and
Measurementî, held in Hungary in August. This brought together a large
number of experts in the fields of vision, measurement, signalling and
imaging, to discuss issues relating to the perception and measurement of
light sources and images whose properties vary with time or space ........

.........The symposium was followed by the annual meetings of CIE Divisions 1
and 2, commencing with a joint workshop session during which 4 topics of
common interest were reviewed: mesopic photometry; LEDs; colorimetry; and
measurement of flashing lights. ...... <snip>

 

[Rex Allers]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:51:41 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that xray <notreally@hotmail.invalid
wrote (in <2cp6l0d5b1abl2slbjoa9l7ds49s6nri1n@4ax.com&gt about 'triumph
and tragedy, almost', on Fri, 24 Sep 2004:
In the "Cutaways" section of the page, each paragraph has a picture to
its left. The first ("Outside Vacuum Chamber") has this picture file to
its left P6070007.JPG.

H'mm. I don't see them. Odd!

For what it's worth, I check the page in both IE6 and Firefox on two
different machines. Both looked fine.

The html source doesn't look particularly complicated. In the region I
described, above, the format is a table. Thumbnail pictures are in the
left column, and "outside vacuum chamber" and descriptive text below
it is in the second column. The alternative text display for the
thumbnail picture is "Fig 1" so you should see that if the browser
thinks it should run in text mode for some reason.

The thumbnail pictures are spec'ed to show as 240x320 pixels, so the
240 pixels would determine the width of the left column. The left edge
of the picture column is not at the left edge of the page, it is
inline with the history paragraph at the top of the page.

Maybe something in all this will give you a clue. Another thing you
could try is open the page in IE6 and then do File-Save As ensuring
that the type is Web Page, Complete. When I did that, the save
location has a subdirectory containing (amoung other files) the
picture files for the thumbnails. This might tell you if they are
being downloaded to your PC.

If you havent tried Firefox, you may want to download and try it.

 

[Clifford Heath]

Rex Allers wrote:

The html source doesn't look particularly complicated.

I don't know whether it means anything, but there is a <div> inside
the <head> section, which is illegal. Some browsers will assume that
the <head> should have finished, and the <body> tag has been dropped,
and switch into body mode. Anyhow, that might confuse it.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Colin Dawson <nospam@cjdawson.com>
wrote (in <cj61pj$eur$1@hercules.btinternet.com&gt about 'Battery level
tester.', on Sun, 26 Sep 2004:

I think everyone here has managed to completly miss the point of what
I'm asking.

No, I'm afraid that you are asking a question that doesn't make a lot of
sense in the context in which you pose it.

There is enough voltage in my setup to power everything that I want to
power. The cables are thick enough to power everything that I want to
power, and then some. (I can easily double the number of devices
without ricking overrating the stuff that I've used. I've done it)

The cable 'rating' may be based on temperature rise, not on voltage
drop. A few volts off a 230 V supply are negligible, but not off 12 V.

The behaviour of your meter, as you describe it, indicates without doubt
that you have voltage-drop problems, either in the cables themselves or
in the terminations.

What size(s) are the conductors in the cables?

At the moment my "Battery Monitor" is actually a "VoltMeter". I don't
want a VoltMeter connected to the battery, as is doesn't tell me when
it's time to start thinking about recharging the battery.

Well, it WOULD. Not the best possible solution, but it would. The fact
that the voltage falls is enough to tell you that you need to charge.
Since you have a deep-cycling battery, using the voltage as an indicator
is unlikely to shorten the life of the battery through over-discharge.

The situation is different for 'float' batteries that are intended not
to be deeply-discharged. For them, using the voltage as an indicator is
OK if the 're-charge' point is set at a high enough voltage, but the
required voltage is temperature-dependent, so it's not easy to implement
such a device. In your case, the simple voltmeter solution is an
acceptable solution.

What I want is a "Battery Level Meter".

What do you understnd by 'level' in this context? It has a lot of
different meanings in electronics.

Just because I start pulling
10A from my battery doesn't mean that it's capacity suddenly drops, as a
VoltMeter shows.

That is true. It's about the only thing you have written here that IS
true.

I don't care what the Voltage of the battery is. I
WANT TO KNOW WHEN I NEET TO START TURNING OFF DEVICES BECAUSE THE DAMMED
BATTERY IS ALMOST FLAT AND MY TELESCOPE IS ABOUT TO LOOSE IT'S
ALIGNMENT. (at this point Colin has thrown his teddy out of the cot)

You CAN tell that with a voltmeter. There are more complicated
possibilities, notably an integrating ampere-hour meter, but although
that would be desirable, it isn't necessary.

Your telescope loses alignment **precisely because it receives a voltage
that is too low**. Your simple voltmeter will tell you when that
condition is being approached.

Get the point now?

I would mention that we don't mind ignorance on this NG, and we (many of
us) will work hard to dispel it, but we do not like arrogance.

Won't anyone give me a straight answer on how the hell to build an
Ammeter circuit, so that I can get the "BATTERY LEVEL MONITOR" to give a
correct reading?

You CAN'T convert your voltmeter circuit directly into an integrating
ampere-hour meter, if that's what you mean by 'battery level meter' and
'battery level monitor'. You could pull it to pieces and use some of the
parts, but an integrating ampere-hour meter is not a trivial project for
you to build.

But there really isn't any need; your voltmeter will do what you want if
you improve the cables.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Tony Williams]

In article <srnbl0p4b52kh369ovpjf660jqd2hr9c0g@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

Since both dxf and dwg are formats *defined* by Autodesk it seems
a bit strange that Autosketch would have incompatibility issues..

Autosketch does seem to have a wounded or limited
DXF capability that (more often than not) causes
it to barf when trying to read-in a DXF file.

Various versions of Autocad seemed to have DXF issues
as well. A few years ago I was used as an intermediary
between (I think) an R12 customer and an R13 customer.
The R13 would email DXF's to me, into ProCAD, re-DXF'd,
and emailed to the R12 customer.

--
Tony Williams.

 

[YD]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:05:02 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelati
ons@hotmail.com> wrote (in <414DF9C1.EB11CBED@hotmail.com&gt about 'Ping
Kevin Aylward - re your "scientific paper"', on Sun, 19 Sep 2004:

Just leaves k for kilo as the odd one out. I suspect that's simply
historical.

Yes, it is.

Just piggy-backing. As of last count I have 1433 unreads in this
group, and 546 of those belong to this thread. This doesn't include
reads and expired, this silly thing must be humongous. Trying to set
some kind of record?

- YD.

--
Remove HAT if replying by mail.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote (in <415621F7.4080602@nospam.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Sun, 26 Sep 2004:


The question put to Rumsfeld by the military community is:
How are we going to train the Iraqi security forces to defeat an enemy
we can't defeat ourselves. No answer has been forthcoming as of yet.


The Iraquis have a significant advantage; they speak Arabic and are not
regarded by the citizenry as invading aliens.

If by "Iraquis" you mean the American trained security force, then they
are regarded as collaborators- a universally detested life form. The US
created this adversarial situation by brutalizing the population early
on in the war, humiliating and abusing the various tribal patriarchs and
sheiks throughout the country. This was not a very wise thing to do in a
nation awash with weaponry and hundreds of thousands of highly trained
ex-military poised to wage whatever kind of war it takes to run the
American occupiers out of the country. This particular group of people
derives its authority from thousands of years of tradition that shaped
the social culture of that part of the world, and it will not be
defeated by any western backed fabrication of a provisional government.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote (in <4156BE28.9090001@nospam.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Sun, 26 Sep 2004:

The US has no choice- Saudi Arabia is right next door, there are several
disgruntled factions within that nation that would violently overthrow
the existing order if given the chance. What kind of message will the US
send them if Iraq is abandoned? The US not only has to see this through-
but it has to effectively stay in Iraq for a very long time to ensure
the survival of that government. The US must change tactics- it is very
unwise to challenge our adversaries to invent strategies that negate a
large part of our military advantage- and you know what they say about
necessity and invention.

Be careful, Fred. You're becoming rational and even, IMHO, realistic.
Iraq was 'invented' by Britain and the Allies after WW1. It was put
together as an unhappy mixture of dissenting societies, just like the
former Yugoslavia. After 70 to 80 years, these expedient constructs are
simply falling apart. Surprise!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Product developer wrote:

I find most all of your positions "synthesized" as with most liberal
concocted hormone-based perception.

Synthesis refers to deriving from the factual a position or
understanding in terms of the abstract. For example, after looking at
your unimaginative and uninformative posts, littered with endless
plagiarism of politically entertaining but superficial slurs, we arrive
at several conclusions about your value to any political debate or
process.

 

[Bubba Jones]

I read somewhere that John Kerry designed some early 7400 series logic
chips.

In fact the 7476 has his initials attributed to it and its function
reflects his ability to make decisions

7476 = JK (John Kerry) dual Flip / Flop

Thanks for JK for his insight!



On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:14:32 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ken Smith
kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote (in <cj4nag$g7l$5@blue.rahul.net&gt
about 'If Gore invented the Internet, what about John Kerry?', on Sat,
25 Sep 2004:
In article <zeN5hgA19cVBFwxW@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
[...]
I have irrefutable evidence that they were spoken by James Garfield.

I've got copies of the typewritten documents signed by him.

The signature is obviously forged.

 

[Chaos Master]

JeffM writes within:

Yes, I forgot this. Windows ME is totally broken, IMHO.
Win 98 + IE 6.0 is better.
Chaos Master

You do have the Internet Zone locked down tight, don't you?
(No ActiveX, no scripts.)
I can't imagine anyone running IE these days--except when his arm gets twisted.
I really like that the "fix" for Download.Ject was to shut off ActiveX.
If you don't need ActiveX, you don't need IE.

I have ActiveX disabled. JavaScript isn't.

BUT, my main browser is Mozilla, I use IE just because I don't want to install
plugins on my Mozilla.

[]s
--
Chaos MasterŽ, posting from Brazil.
"Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't think
that this is a coincidence." -- Anonymous
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain
"F*** you, pal. " -- Amy Lee

"STATUS: ELF and ORC signals detected on Tolkien (sp?) Ring network!"

The Evanescen(t/ce) HP: http://marreka.no-ip.com

 

[James Meyer]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:22:59 +0000 (UTC), "Colin Dawson" <nospam@cjdawson.com>
wroth:

I think everyone here has managed to completly miss the point of what I'm
asking.


There is enough voltage in my setup to power everything that I want to
power. The cables are thick enough to power everything that I want to
power, and then some. (I can easily double the number of devices without
ricking overrating the stuff that I've used. I've done it)

At the moment my "Battery Monitor" is actually a "VoltMeter". I don't want
a VoltMeter connected to the battery, as is doesn't tell me when it's time
to start thinking about recharging the battery.

What I want is a "Battery Level Meter". Just because I start pulling 10A
from my battery doesn't mean that it's capacity suddenly drops, as a
VoltMeter shows. I don't care what the Voltage of the battery is. I WANT
TO KNOW WHEN I NEET TO START TURNING OFF DEVICES BECAUSE THE DAMMED BATTERY
IS ALMOST FLAT AND MY TELESCOPE IS ABOUT TO LOOSE IT'S ALIGNMENT. (at
this point Colin has thrown his teddy out of the cot)

Get the point now?

Won't anyone give me a straight answer on how the hell to build an Ammeter
circuit, so that I can get the "BATTERY LEVEL MONITOR" to give a correct
reading?

Regards

Colin Dawson
www.cjdawson.com

Measure the current draw with a current sensor. Convert the sensed
current to an appropriate voltage and use the voltage to drive a small, toy
sized, motor with a gear train on its output. Attach pointers to a couple of
the gears and you will have an amp/hour readout similar to the gas or electric
meter on the side of your house. Reset your meter to zero before use, always
start your observing sessions with a fully charged battery, and Bob's yer uncle!

Jim

 

[James Meyer]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:53:19 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wroth:

You CAN'T convert your voltmeter circuit directly into an integrating
ampere-hour meter, if that's what you mean by 'battery level meter' and
'battery level monitor'. You could pull it to pieces and use some of the
parts, but an integrating ampere-hour meter is not a trivial project for
you to build.

An integrating amp-hour meter **is too** trivial....

Measure the current draw with a current sensor. Convert the sensed
current to an appropriate voltage and use the voltage to drive a small, toy
sized, motor with a gear train on its output. Attach pointers to a couple of
the gears and you will have an amp/hour readout similar to the gas or electric
meter on the side of your house. Reset your meter to zero before use, always
start your observing sessions with a fully charged battery, and Bob's yer uncle!

Jim

 

[James Meyer]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:45:12 -0500, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com>
wroth:

Or maybe you want something to let you know how much charge is still
in the battery or how much time you've got left until it goes flat? A
battery "gas gauge" kind of thingy?

Well, boss, if that's what yuh wants, just ax fo' it an' ahm sho' some
of us ol' niggers'll jump at the chance to serve yuh.

Sho 'nuf...

Measure the current draw with a current sensor. Convert the sensed
current to an appropriate voltage and use the voltage to drive a small, toy
sized, motor with a gear train on its output. Attach pointers to a couple of
the gears and you will have an amp/hour readout similar to the gas or electric
meter on the side of your house. Reset your meter to zero before use, always
start your observing sessions with a fully charged battery, and Bob's yer uncle!

Jim