OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:24:12 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:


That document reads like something produced by Hitler's Third Reich- a
total fraud. You might note most of the claims boil down to bureaucratic
bs about starting this, planning that, and auditing something else- a
lot of tabulated garbage about throwing away vast amounts intended to
give the impression that it is actually buying something. The actual
accomplishments are nearly nil-and that is because much of this work is
being sabotaged and the international NGO's have fled or are in the
process of evacuating the country. I rate this total government bullsh_t
along the lines of Bush's comments on the Iraqi Olympic soccer team- how
wonderful- they turned around and bitch-slapped him by saying they
*hate* America and will become insurgents when they return home.




K does seem singularly inept. He keeps pushing his Vietnam heroism
(all four months of it!) despite the fact that most people simple
don't want to be bothered (if they don't remember Nam) or don't want
to be reminded (if they do.) And his Iraq failure-wishing isn't
winning him many friends, either. He's like a bad chess player who's
way behind in the game: every move makes things worse.

It only seems that way to someone like who lacks any ability for
objectivity. I sure hope you never have to design anything important,
you are an airhead.

Oh dear, your advice is about $200 million too late.

W may not be the brightest star in the heavens, but I think the theme
of this election will be

Anybody But Kerry.


Did you hear that your moron "boy" there did it again at the press
conference at the UN- another unscripted comment indicating vacuous
cerebral inactivity- something along the lines of US intelligence is not
to be used to make decisions, it is for pushing ideological and
political agendas. Now if that does not convince you that you have a
thoroughly disturbed incompetent not fit to be in *any* leadership
position, then you are also a seriously disturbed incompetent!

Maybe *that's* why I have so much fun!

You're
another venal piece of trash who is enjoying some increased income due
to a tax rollback. WELL I SURE DO HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR $5 LATTES,

$2.25, plus a 50-cent tip. Yum.

YOUR
FRIGGIN VACATIONS IN VAIL,

I did Vail once, and didn't like it much... too plastic. I used to ski
Aspen a lot when I was younger, but now we mostly rent a house at
Northstar, North Tahoe, since it's just a 3-hour drive or so.

Anybody interested?

YOUR "FAB" GOURMET FOODS

Just finished a pot of noodles with shrimp and garlic-wine sauce. More
yum.

AND ALL YOUR OTHER
FRIGGIN SELF-INDULGENCES while millions of victims, both American and
Iraqi, are suffering the worst fate imaginable!

What are you doing to help the less fortunate? I gave $5000 to Doctors
Without Borders last year.

HOW SCUM LIKE YOU LIVE
WITH YOURSELVES I WILL NEVER KNOW!

Gosh, I never realized how miserable I was. Thanks for showing me the
way to unhappiness.

John

 

[The Phantom]

On 24 Sep 2004 11:20:25 -0700, geert@user1.be (Pinchy) wrote:

I intend to design a device to measure the power factor without the
use of a microcontroller. In the design, the measured angle will be
given by a simple DC voltage, e.g. 30° = pi/6 rad = 0.523 V

A problem that occurs is calculating the cosine of this voltage. In a
discrete setup, I will use Taylor series and realise it with analog
multipliers and a few operational amplifiers.

Before starting this, I would like to know if a single IC exists that
can make this calculation at once, eg 0.523 V IN results in cos(0.523)
= 0.866 V OUT

Thanks for help

(designer has a degree of engineer in elektronics)

Geert

You haven't told us what accuracy you require.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Larkin wrote:

I gave $5000 to Doctors
Without Borders last year.

Security fears force relief group to leave Afghanistan
Last Updated Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:59:11 EDT

KABUL - Doctors Without Borders announced Wednesday that the killings of
five of its staff members in June and the danger of further attacks has
prompted the international medical relief agency to pull out of Afghanistan.

"Today's context is rendering independent humanitarian aid for the
Afghan people all but impossible," the agency said in a statement.

The group, also known as Médecins Sans Frontičres, said it was unhappy
with the investigation into the June 2 killings.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, and police arrested
10 people, but the relief agency said the Afghan government failed to
conduct a "credible investigation."

The organization also blamed the U.S.-led forces of using humanitarian
aid for "political and military motives," but refused to elaborate.

A spokesperson for the group said they would provide more details about
their decision on Thursday.


And....

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Allan Herriman wrote:

On 22 Sep 2004 23:11:22 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk
wrote:

Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:
Chris Holmes <seymour_bunzzERASE@hotmail.com> wrote:

Zorpetus wrote:

Is there any modem connection sniffer hardware/software?

I mean a device (tap) that could be connected to a phone line,
and to record network traffic made over dial-up connection over
that telephone line (for V.90 protocol for example). I am not
reffering to those "com port sniffer" or "modem sniffers" that
have to be installed on the "target" PC, but something that would
be used outside the house, by tapping the telephone lines.


Any hint and/or link is more than welcome!

And of course - I need it only for information purpose!

Yes, this should be possible. In fact, I heard about one device that
could sniff a modem (external) connection from a good distance by
"watching" the TX and RX activity LEDs on the front panel!


I find this difficult to believe for modern modems.
The bits are simply too fast, and to make them visible all recent modems
that I've seen have some sort of pulse-stretcher to make them more visible.

For modern modems I agree completely. I forgot to mention that this
setup was with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem, something along those lines.

However, sniffing a V.90 should be possible by tapping the phone line, I
would think.

Well, yes.
Sniffing anything is possible, V90 is a bit harder than V21, as you've got
to split the line, and work out the echo cancellation that both modems
are doing.

This would be much easier if you can tap inside the phone exchange, to
access the digital signals directly. That way, you don't suffer the
extra AD conversion and its attendant 'distortion'.

If it's a legal tap, you should have no problem getting into the
exchange.

Tap in at the ISP. Its been done and its called 'Carnivore'.

--
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[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Ian Stirling wrote:

Zorpetus <zorpetus@yahoo.com> wrote:
Snip "what is the modem in the middle attack"
I see.

But then you need a computer to "host" two as you labelled them "FBI"
modems, right?
And that computer should run some kind of DHCP server and router
(transparent) that is connecting a home dial-up user to the ISP.

Briefly, if connection is :

USER----------> FBI MODEM - FBI MODEM -------> ISP
|
V
FBI TAP

on the host computer there should be:

- one normal modem
- one modem with 'ISP' firmware (reversed V.90, 56K sending, 33K receive)
- some software that would "pick up a line and pretend to be access server
of the ISP" and dynamically assign some IP address (should that be same
as one from the providers pool?)
- should route EVERYTHING between two "FBI" modems with some software?

Too complex.
You want something to pass through the dial tones from the original
phone.
Now, when you notice an ISP number, you disconnect the line, and stick
your modem in to talk to the tapees modem.
At the same time, your modem is connected to the ISPs one.
All that's now needed is a serial cable between the two, and a laptop with
two serial ports to read the data from both sides.

This would work for unencrypted links. At most, a small microcontroller
could handle passing the data back and forth between the modems. If the
link is encrypted, the processing requirements go up significantly. And
cracking some encryption schemes could only be done if the modem tap was
in place when the initial public key exchange took place and it assumes
that the endpoint participants didn't establish keys through some other
chennel or use another channel to verify key checksums.

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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:35:21 GMT, the renowned Fred Bloggs
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

Tom Seim wrote:


Sounds like Fred is going into thermal shutdown.

I think I smell synapses frying.

Don't expend too much energy on a lengthy post now- feeble little man
that you are. So you are in the Yakima, WA area?

And a federal government employee?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:35:21 GMT, the renowned Fred Bloggs
nospam@nospam.com> wrote:



Tom Seim wrote:


Sounds like Fred is going into thermal shutdown.

I think I smell synapses frying.

Don't expend too much energy on a lengthy post now- feeble little man
that you are. So you are in the Yakima, WA area?


And a federal government employee?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

At the DOE lab?

 

[Chaos Master]

YD writes within:

[ANADISK]

People also use it to copy non-DOS disks for HP test equipment.

Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com Washington State resident

Haven't tried it yet but I did find a d/l in
http://www.8bit-micro.com/anadisk.htm

I think that 'dd' may do the same, on Linux:

linux# dd if=/dev/fd0 of=~/floppy.ima

More parameters may be need.

It does a "raw read" of the floppy disk. Input device (the 'if' argument) is
floppy drive and output device (the 'of' argument) is the file name for output

[]s
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that this is a coincidence." -- Anonymous
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain

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[Ken Smith]

In article <OA25d.206$2t5.142@trnddc07>, Auxiliary User <x@example.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On 24 Sep 2004 11:20:25 -0700, geert@user1.be (Pinchy) wrote:

Before starting this, I would like to know if a single IC exists that
can make this calculation at once, eg 0.523 V IN results in cos(0.523)
= 0.866 V OUT

---
Sure.

Vin>----[ADC]---[ROM]---[DAC]--->cos(Vin)

The single IC is the ROM, a Read-Only-Memory with a cosine lookup
table burned into it.

New definition of "Single" today, John?

Use one of the Cygnal micros and you get the ADC the table and the DAC all
in one chip. That would do it.


--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:52:16 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
I gave $5000 to Doctors
Without Borders last year.


Security fears force relief group to leave Afghanistan
Last Updated Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:59:11 EDT

KABUL - Doctors Without Borders announced Wednesday that the killings of
five of its staff members in June and the danger of further attacks has
prompted the international medical relief agency to pull out of Afghanistan.

"Today's context is rendering independent humanitarian aid for the
Afghan people all but impossible," the agency said in a statement.

The group, also known as Médecins Sans Frontičres, said it was unhappy
with the investigation into the June 2 killings.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, and police arrested
10 people, but the relief agency said the Afghan government failed to
conduct a "credible investigation."

The organization also blamed the U.S.-led forces of using humanitarian
aid for "political and military motives," but refused to elaborate.

A spokesperson for the group said they would provide more details about
their decision on Thursday.


And....

So, between the Doctors and the Taliban, whose side are you on?

John

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:52:16 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

I gave $5000 to Doctors
Without Borders last year.


Security fears force relief group to leave Afghanistan
Last Updated Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:59:11 EDT

KABUL - Doctors Without Borders announced Wednesday that the killings of
five of its staff members in June and the danger of further attacks has
prompted the international medical relief agency to pull out of Afghanistan.

"Today's context is rendering independent humanitarian aid for the
Afghan people all but impossible," the agency said in a statement.

The group, also known as Médecins Sans Frontičres, said it was unhappy
with the investigation into the June 2 killings.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, and police arrested
10 people, but the relief agency said the Afghan government failed to
conduct a "credible investigation."

The organization also blamed the U.S.-led forces of using humanitarian
aid for "political and military motives," but refused to elaborate.

A spokesperson for the group said they would provide more details about
their decision on Thursday.


And....



So, between the Doctors and the Taliban, whose side are you on?

John

That is a nonsense question. I understand they will only take Iraqi
volunteers in Iraq- and that is how they have survived so far. But the
Al Qeada insurgents will still try to kill them.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:24:16 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:52:16 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

I gave $5000 to Doctors
Without Borders last year.


Security fears force relief group to leave Afghanistan
Last Updated Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:59:11 EDT

KABUL - Doctors Without Borders announced Wednesday that the killings of
five of its staff members in June and the danger of further attacks has
prompted the international medical relief agency to pull out of Afghanistan.

"Today's context is rendering independent humanitarian aid for the
Afghan people all but impossible," the agency said in a statement.

The group, also known as Médecins Sans Frontičres, said it was unhappy
with the investigation into the June 2 killings.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, and police arrested
10 people, but the relief agency said the Afghan government failed to
conduct a "credible investigation."

The organization also blamed the U.S.-led forces of using humanitarian
aid for "political and military motives," but refused to elaborate.

A spokesperson for the group said they would provide more details about
their decision on Thursday.


And....



So, between the Doctors and the Taliban, whose side are you on?

John


That is a nonsense question. I understand they will only take Iraqi
volunteers in Iraq- and that is how they have survived so far. But the
Al Qeada insurgents will still try to kill them.

That's sad. For every doctor they kill, hundreds of Muslim locals will
suffer. Ideology trumps humanity again.

How does that make you feel?

John

 

[YD]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:16:32 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPland
THIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote (in <lu06l0dofp4i4n4b75eimapasop71kiloj@
4ax.com&gt about 'triumph and tragedy, almost', on Thu, 23 Sep 2004:

http://www.jeol.com/nmr/mag_view/magnet_destruction.html

I can get to the site and read the text, but I can't see any links to
pictures. This could be important, because I have a problem accessing a
download facility on a site that is very significant business-wise. What
should I be seeing on the site? I see no links, not even if I scan over
the black text looking for cursor changes.

The links to the larger pictures are in the thumbnails. What kind of
problem are you having. Have you tried other browsers? I did just fine
with Mozilla Firefox, so I won't bother firing up any of the other
browsers.

- YD.

--
Remove HAT if replying by mail.

 

[Chaos Master]

boki writes within:

Dear All,

We can use usbcheck.exe to check USB devices reports, right it was be
replaced by USBCV 1.21, now, I don't know how to check the USB reports
again....

What do you mean by "USB Reports"? Info about the USB ports?

If you have access to Linux, then

cat'ing the stuff in /proc/usb (IIRC) and

dmesg | grep USB

or

dmesg | grep usb

may give you info.

[]s
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"Two of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. I don't think
that this is a coincidence." -- Anonymous
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain

The Evanescen(t/ce) HP: http://marreka.no-ip.com

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Friday 24 September 2004 05:56 am, Fred Bloggs did deign to grace us with
the following:



Tom Seim wrote:

CNN survey: Bush widens lead in Electoral College
Kerry holds tenuous leads in six key states

The so-called CNN "survey" is NOT *scientific* and it is important to
understand this- it is not a quantifiable scientific survey of any kind-
it is a "hunch"-and the coincidence of agreement with their political
support makes this a FRAUDULENT excuse for a news report far in excess
of the fabricated CBS scandal. CNN CONCEALS this fact from the
inexperienced reader by quickly glossing over their source data by
citing unspecified polls, interviews with campaign officials- quoting
out of context, and interviews with un-named so-called political
analysts. Quite a lot HAND WAVING here! This is a DISGRACE to American
JOURNALISM.


Yeah, well, the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal are a disgrace to American
Governance. What can we do about it, short of a suitcase in DC?

Thanks,
Rich

Your state of residence is doing a good job of helping to throw him out,
solidly Kerry and a ton of electoral votes.

 

[Guy Macon]

Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> says...

Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:

To put it simply and to help me to avoid error, is it or is it not
possible to determine the exact position and the exact velocity of
a single subatomic particle at a particular point in time?

(Very useful background info snipped)

Imagine being asked to measure the exact point in time of a signal
and, at the same time, being asked to measure the exact frequency
of the same arbitrary signal. It simply wouldn't make any sense.

....

Can you measure these both so that they are each arbitrarily tiny
for the same signal? I don't think so. And it wouldn't make any
sense to ask.

Likewise, I fear your question isn't meaningful.

That lines up with my understanding. I can readily accept that
Heisenberg might have been wrong on some details, but as far
as I can tell, all experts agree that it not possible to determine
the exact position and the exact velocity of a single subatomic
particle at a particular point in time.

My conclusion from this is that it is also impossible to determine
the exact positions and the exact velocities of a collection of
subatomic particles at a particular point in time, and thus
impossible to predict their future positions and velocities in a
deterministic fashion.

I am, of course, completely open to being corrected. This is not my
field of expertise and I am relying on what I hear from various
experts, with the usual possibility that I am not "getting it."

 

[Rolavine]

Vinton Cerg and Bob Kahn creators of TCP/IP said in September of 2000:

"...Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative
in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that
Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no
question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a
significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of
the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long
before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our
perspective.

They go on to say that Al was the man, and that no one did more to get the net
going in DC.

http://azplace.net/index.php?itemid=80

Certain lies seem to live longer than truths!

But Bush can get away with saying that terrorists will never stop trying to
destroy our country and either will we. Maybe that is his political strength,
he screws up so much you can't hold him accountable for anything he says.

Rocky







'

 

[Rolavine]

Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


Can anybody in the country finish this sentence:

The Goal of the American Mission in Iraq is to: not make it look like we
attacked just because Bush had his tit in a wringer?

Rocky

Establish a Turkish-like secular democracy.

in 25 words or less? Preferably no more than three or four?

Is six OK? Or was that five? JW might know.


John

 

[Guy Macon]

Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness> says...

At least you don't stupidly plagiarize stupidity superlatives
from Uncle Al the way Guy Macon does.

I do not plagiarize. I give credit.
See http://www.guymacon.com/insult.txt

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Guy Macon <http@?.guymacon.com>
wrote (in <10l93093t6tcr5e@news.supernews.com&gt about 'Ping Kevin
Aylward - re GU...', on Fri, 24 Sep 2004:

John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> says...

The Uncertainty Principle still exists but it DOESN'T mean
quite what Heisenberg thought it did.

Thanks! Good information there.

To put it simply and to help me to avoid error, is it or is it not
possible to determine the exact position and the exact velocity of
a single subatomic particle at a particular point in time?



No, pedantically, because you used the word 'exact'. All measurements

are subject to 'uncertainty' - a technical term referring to things like
errors and lack of infinite precision in the measuring instruments.

But It IS possible to determine both position and velocity more
precisely that the UP stipulates. Kevin gave some references. The UP
applies to the results of a large number of measurements.
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The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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