OT: Al Franken

Chuck Harris · Apr 20, 2004

John S. Dyson wrote:

(Refer to context that was reinserted, after your grotesque and dishonest
editing job.)

Yes, when reading the context that you DISHONESTLY removed, it becomes
clear that he wasn't referring to Al Franken, the Infomercial host as
personally bouncing the check. He was referring to Air America AS
BOUNCING THE CHECKS.

Read the 'arrows' above, and it is clear that he is stating that
Air America bounced the checks, and Al Franken (the Infomercial host)
is their info-poodle.

More leftist dishonesty proven again. Like the leftist media (e.g.
CBS, NBC, ABC), you remove context to make yourself appear to
be superficially accurate.

John

I parenthesized Al Franken because I thought that Walz had
such a short memory that he needed to be reminded that Al Franken
works for Air America, the company that bounced the checks. He seems to
place the blame for the check bouncing on the station owner.

As Walz has said many times, he believes the ends justifies the means.
If Walz has to lie to gain his intended end, he feels that he is
justified in doing so.

-Chuck Harris

John S. Dyson · Apr 20, 2004

In article <40852239$0$16483$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>,
Chuck Harris <cfharris@erols.com> writes:

John S. Dyson wrote:

(Refer to context that was reinserted, after your grotesque and dishonest
editing job.)

Yes, when reading the context that you DISHONESTLY removed, it becomes
clear that he wasn't referring to Al Franken, the Infomercial host as
personally bouncing the check. He was referring to Air America AS
BOUNCING THE CHECKS.

Read the 'arrows' above, and it is clear that he is stating that
Air America bounced the checks, and Al Franken (the Infomercial host)
is their info-poodle.

More leftist dishonesty proven again. Like the leftist media (e.g.
CBS, NBC, ABC), you remove context to make yourself appear to
be superficially accurate.

John

I parenthesized Al Franken because I thought that Walz had
such a short memory that he needed to be reminded that Al Franken
works for Air America, the company that bounced the checks. He seems to
place the blame for the check bouncing on the station owner.

As Walz has said many times, he believes the ends justifies the means.
If Walz has to lie to gain his intended end, he feels that he is
justified in doing so.

That is exactly what I saw. You even explicity said that Air America

bounced the check, but Walz has to lie.

John

John S. Dyson · Apr 20, 2004

In article <20040420100453.09138.00000059@mb-m18.aol.com>,
rolavine@aol.com (Rolavine) writes:

To John Dyson and sock puppets.

You fools just get crazier and crazier. You can't hurt me by calling me names,

if you are a liar, then so be it!!! (Example proof below, refer also to

earlier context in thread.) You wouldn't comment on it, except
the FACT that the observation about leftist dishonesty did hit a
nerve -- and the fact that the left is full
of viscerally dishonest people is true. It is only an observation
that when you or a leftist cohort have lied about what other people
say, that impeaches you and your friend. The proof is below
again... You might associate with liars,
and advocate liars, but that doesn't reflect on me

. Perhaps
the only negative reflection on me is ANY association with your
"kind."

Again refer to the context, and incorrect characterization by one
of your "Brian Fellows" style leftist liars:

Air America, has an infomercial, a "talk show", starring Al Franken.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In order to promote their product (democrat party), Air America *BUYS*
air time on radio stations across the US.

Air America contracted with stations across the US but didn't have
^^^^^^^^^^^
the money to pay for the air time they bought. They bounced checks
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
to stations in at least the Chicago and LA markets.

The station owners in Chicago and LA got mad when the checks bounced,
and stopped the infomercial in the middle of the broadcast.
Air America (Al Franken) bounces checks, gets kicked off the air.

-Chuck
-----------------------------------
Al Franken bounced nuthin'. Checks bounce.

(Refer to context that was reinserted, after your grotesque and dishonest
editing job. No claim was made that Al Franken, the Informercial host
bounced the check himself.)

The idiot/liar Walz proves EITHER his inability to read text and selects
limited context (which is incompetency) or is being dishonest (which
is typical leftist visceral dishonesty.)

John

cornytheclown · Apr 20, 2004

jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer) wrote in message news:<118afaeb.0404021719.4763ece2@posting.google.com>...

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<2hdr60hkmaafvoq3gt5qff3usinbfbk2j5@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:41 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:06:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

I decided to be fair with the leftists and listen to Al Franken's new
talk show (I've found him funny on Leno, etc.).

Looks like he loses his humor capability when immersed into a talk
show environment.

Looks like "Liberal Talk Radio" will die a quick death.

...Jim Thompson

Mockery can be funny, but stark hatred seldom is. Ann Coulter can whip
him and Molly Ivans together with one hand, and not scuff her nail
polish.

John

How true! Ann is quite a fighter!

And not bad looking either. Ever notice that all the Right leaning
female pundits tend to be very happy and atractive while the leftys
can often look mannish and prepetually pissed all the time ala Susan
Estrich.

yes, the make up people have also gotten a lot better at hiding "anns"
adams apple too.

Product developer · Apr 21, 2004

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote in message news:<tnbs60h3l9q7d8svjbrljos4nfolo5dddl@4ax.com>...

On 2 Apr 2004 17:19:15 -0800, jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<2hdr60hkmaafvoq3gt5qff3usinbfbk2j5@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:41 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:06:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

I decided to be fair with the leftists and listen to Al Franken's new
talk show (I've found him funny on Leno, etc.).

Looks like he loses his humor capability when immersed into a talk
show environment.

Looks like "Liberal Talk Radio" will die a quick death.

...Jim Thompson

Mockery can be funny, but stark hatred seldom is. Ann Coulter can whip
him and Molly Ivans together with one hand, and not scuff her nail
polish.

John

How true! Ann is quite a fighter!

And not bad looking either. Ever notice that all the Right leaning
female pundits tend to be very happy and atractive while the leftys
can often look mannish and prepetually pissed all the time ala Susan
Estrich.

The American Left seems to be motivated by jealousy and hatred, and
characterized by intolerance; who woulda thunk it? Their figureheads
tend to be mean-spirited and especially not funny. We don't need
"fighters", we need thinkers.

But most public figures are just playing to the crowd they think they
will get the most out of. The Kerrys and Clintons of this world would
have been enthusiastic racists 100 years ago, if that's what it took
to get ahead.

The Libertarian attitude, "just leave me alone", is impractical but at
least hints at integrity.

Ann is a kick.

John

Actually Clinton was a racist in Arkansas. He often used the "N" word
to identify persons of color. I talked to someone that worked for him
and he said both Bill and hill were "big time racists" further
supporting the hypocrite charge made by Dyson. This man and his wife
are opportunists in the extreme. Completely void of honor or any code
of ethics.

If the left wanted to know why people like myself could not lower
ourselves to accept these people it comes down to honesty. I was
brought up believe that good was good and bad was bad.

Liberalism, MTV, pop culture, and political correctness have changed
all the rules. Up is down, black is white, and there is no right or
wrong. Criminals were not wrong they were just misunderstood. Society
was to blame for homelessness and those who live generation to
generation on welfare.

Then this sleazy man and his wife from Arkansas appeared out of
nowhere to run for the highest office in the greatest country in the
world. Those with a sense of decency and common sense completely
discounted this charlatan as a complete phony way out of his league.
Then it happened. All of a sudden this guy became a pop icon showing
up on MTV acting more like an entertainer than a politician.

Bob Dole, although a fine and decent man was not hip or cool and could
not compete at this level. He was old school, obsolete. The new pop
culture was not aligned with the conventional politician. They wanted
a rock star that could change the world. It was like someone dumped a
million gallons of stupid juice into the nation's water supply.

Women fell for this guy like he was Elvis Presley. Didn't matter that
he used women like a reprobate. He was handsome and charming. Women
treated him like the bad boy that they could tame. In the end it would
be the female vote that would put this man into office and before long
the antics began. The Whitehouse was turned into Hade Ash bury and the
hippies of the 60's were running the country and he oval office would
become a sex parlor.

Conservatives were completely dumbfounded. Everything we believed in
was turned upside down. A man we would not hire to do our windows was
in charge of the U.S. Government and military. A man who loathed the
military and authority was now in charge. To me this was like Charles
Manson being paroled and assigned head of the DEA. How could a country
come so far and produce a populace so ignorant and complacent that it
could put a guy like this in office?

How could we come so far as a nation only to produce a populace that
is too lazy to read beyond the headline or listen beyond the sound
bite. Clinton and his crew would capitalize on this phenomenon early
in their administration and began a regular program of disseminating
sound bite attack mantras that began to be heard around every water
cooler. A complicit press would reinforce the mantras and allow
supporters to mutter these mantras without any cross-examination. You
heard ridiculous statements like "Newt Gingrich wants to let Medicare
wither on the vine". Or "Republicans want to starve school children".
Carefully crafted does of little mantras went out weekly like
clockwork attempting to capture the less mentally fortunate as minions
to pass on the message.

Conservatives became infuriated that everything coming out of the
Whitehouse was completely fraudulent drivel but millions were buying
the spoon-fed propaganda.

Republicans were at a disadvantage dealing with the onslaught of lies
and attacks. They operated on an old school belief that truth would
prevail and everyone would see through the propaganda.

Today we see the same old Democrat assault on Bush. Concocted fables
by democrats willing to sell out their own country, dignity, and honor
to regain their power. It is back to good versus evil but unlike the
stories our parents told us when we were young, good no longer trumps
evil. It runs neck to neck as a lazy populace loses touch with
reality.

R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

John S. Dyson wrote:

In article <40843707.7CB8@armory.com>,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> writes:

Yes, when reading the context that you DISHONESTLY removed,
----------------

All *I* removed was YOUR dishonesty, asshole!
-Steve

R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

Chuck Harris wrote:

John S. Dyson wrote:

(Refer to context that was reinserted, after your grotesque and dishonest
editing job.)

Yes, when reading the context that you DISHONESTLY removed, it becomes
clear that he wasn't referring to Al Franken, the Infomercial host as
personally bouncing the check. He was referring to Air America AS
BOUNCING THE CHECKS.

Read the 'arrows' above, and it is clear that he is stating that
Air America bounced the checks, and Al Franken (the Infomercial host)
is their info-poodle.

More leftist dishonesty proven again. Like the leftist media (e.g.
CBS, NBC, ABC), you remove context to make yourself appear to
be superficially accurate.

John

I parenthesized Al Franken because I thought that Walz had
such a short memory that he needed to be reminded that Al Franken
works for Air America, the company that bounced the checks. He seems to
place the blame for the check bouncing on the station owner.

As Walz has said many times, he believes the ends justifies the means.
---------------

Only GOOD ends justify any means required to achieve them!

Rightist Capitalist Republican Bigot ends justify nuthin'!!
-Steve

R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

John S. Dyson wrote:

That is exactly what I saw. You even explicity said that Air America
bounced the check, but Walz has to lie.
John
-------------------------

I didn't lie, YOU lied, you propagandizing shit, when you
disingenuously took on Franken's opinions when the issue
was unrelated.

-Steve
--
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R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

John S. Dyson wrote:

In article <20040420100453.09138.00000059@mb-m18.aol.com>,
rolavine@aol.com (Rolavine) writes:

To John Dyson and sock puppets.

You fools just get crazier and crazier. You can't hurt me by calling me names,

if you are a liar, then so be it!!! (Example proof below, refer also to
earlier context in thread.) You wouldn't comment on it, except
the FACT that the observation about leftist dishonesty
---------------

The ONLY dishonesty that exists on THIS PLANET is RIGHTIST DISHONESTY!

Rightists are all those who wish to enslave others so they don't HAVE
to work and can live large at everyone else's expense!

Your kind don't even HAVE anything that can be CALLED morals or
virtue!

YOUR kind only worship success at THEFT and DECEPTION, you FILTHY
disingenuous lying Capitalist piece of SHIT!

-Steve
--
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Bill Sloman · Apr 21, 2004

jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer) wrote in message news:<118afaeb.0404202225.62916d76@posting.google.com>...

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote in message news:<tnbs60h3l9q7d8svjbrljos4nfolo5dddl@4ax.com>...
On 2 Apr 2004 17:19:15 -0800, jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<2hdr60hkmaafvoq3gt5qff3usinbfbk2j5@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:41 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:06:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

I decided to be fair with the leftists and listen to Al Franken's new
talk show (I've found him funny on Leno, etc.).

Looks like he loses his humor capability when immersed into a talk
show environment.

Looks like "Liberal Talk Radio" will die a quick death.

...Jim Thompson

Mockery can be funny, but stark hatred seldom is. Ann Coulter can whip
him and Molly Ivans together with one hand, and not scuff her nail
polish.

John

How true! Ann is quite a fighter!

And not bad looking either. Ever notice that all the Right leaning
female pundits tend to be very happy and atractive while the leftys
can often look mannish and prepetually pissed all the time ala Susan
Estrich.

The American Left seems to be motivated by jealousy and hatred, and
characterized by intolerance; who woulda thunk it? Their figureheads
tend to be mean-spirited and especially not funny. We don't need
"fighters", we need thinkers.

But most public figures are just playing to the crowd they think they
will get the most out of. The Kerrys and Clintons of this world would
have been enthusiastic racists 100 years ago, if that's what it took
to get ahead.

The Libertarian attitude, "just leave me alone", is impractical but at
least hints at integrity.

Ann is a kick.

John

Actually Clinton was a racist in Arkansas. He often used the "N" word
to identify persons of color. I talked to someone that worked for him
and he said both Bill and Hill were "big time racists" further
supporting the hypocrite charge made by Dyson. This man and his wife
are opportunists in the extreme. Completely void of honor or any code
of ethics.

If the left wanted to know why people like myself could not lower
ourselves to accept these people it comes down to honesty. I was
brought up believe that good was good and bad was bad.

In fact you seem to have been brought up to believe that Republicans
are good and Democrats are bad. Anybody who can see Dubbya as an
embodiment of virtue is out of touch with reality.

Liberalism, MTV, pop culture, and political correctness have changed
all the rules. Up is down, black is white, and there is no right or
wrong. Criminals were not wrong they were just misunderstood. Society
was to blame for homelessness and those who live generation to
generation on welfare.

If a society cheese-pares on welfare, so that the children of the poor
are too ill-nourished and ill-educated to be employable if they do
grow up, that society would seem to deserve some blame. Some European
governments do seem to have judged their welfare levels rather better.

Then this sleazy man and his wife from Arkansas appeared out of
nowhere to run for the highest office in the greatest country in the
world. Those with a sense of decency and common sense completely
discounted this charlatan as a complete phony way out of his league.
Then it happened. All of a sudden this guy became a pop icon showing
up on MTV acting more like an entertainer than a politician.

Bob Dole, although a fine and decent man was not hip or cool and could
not compete at this level. He was old school, obsolete. The new pop
culture was not aligned with the conventional politician. They wanted
a rock star that could change the world. It was like someone dumped a
million gallons of stupid juice into the nation's water supply.

Women fell for this guy like he was Elvis Presley. Didn't matter that
he used women like a reprobate. He was handsome and charming. Women
treated him like the bad boy that they could tame. In the end it would
be the female vote that would put this man into office and before long
the antics began. The Whitehouse was turned into Hade Ash bury and the
hippies of the 60's were running the country and he oval office would
become a sex parlor.

Conservatives were completely dumbfounded. Everything we believed in
was turned upside down. A man we would not hire to do our windows was
in charge of the U.S. Government and military. A man who loathed the
military and authority was now in charge. To me this was like Charles
Manson being paroled and assigned head of the DEA. How could a country
come so far and produce a populace so ignorant and complacent that it
could put a guy like this in office?

Clinton did have one saving grace, and one completely denied to Dubbya
- he isn't stupid. Good intentions are nice, but competence is better.

How could we come so far as a nation only to produce a populace that
is too lazy to read beyond the headline or listen beyond the sound
bite. Clinton and his crew would capitalize on this phenomenon early
in their administration and began a regular program of disseminating
sound bite attack mantras that began to be heard around every water
cooler. A complicit press would reinforce the mantras and allow
supporters to mutter these mantras without any cross-examination. You
heard ridiculous statements like "Newt Gingrich wants to let Medicare
wither on the vine". Or "Republicans want to starve school children".
Carefully crafted does of little mantras went out weekly like
clockwork attempting to capture the less mentally fortunate as minions
to pass on the message.

The same sort of rubbish as was used to generate support for Dubbya's
tax breaks for the rich.

Conservatives became infuriated that everything coming out of the
Whitehouse was completely fraudulent drivel but millions were buying
the spoon-fed propaganda.

And not buying the conservatives fraudulent drivel. You seem strangely
relucant to notice that Dubbya sold the invasion of Irak on the basis
that they had weapons of mass destruction that nobody has been able to
find, while supporting Israel, whose nuclear capability is well-known.

Republicans were at a disadvantage dealing with the onslaught of lies
and attacks. They operated on an old school belief that truth would
prevail and everyone would see through the propaganda.

A singularly imperceptive claim, and clear evidence of indoctrination
in the simple-minded belief that Republicans are good and Democrats
are bad.

Today we see the same old Democrat assault on Bush. Concocted fables
by democrats willing to sell out their own country, dignity, and honor
to regain their power. It is back to good versus evil but unlike the
stories our parents told us when we were young, good no longer trumps
evil. It runs neck to neck as a lazy populace loses touch with
reality.

In much the same way that Bubbya sought to link 9/11 with Saddam
Hussein. You are unhappy about the American public's uncritical
attitude to what you see as Democratic propaganda, but your own claim
that Dubbya and his crew are either virtuous or honourable suggests
that you are equally uncritical when it comes to propaganda from the
right.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

KR Williams wrote:

I don't think it's that overt, though the leftists and libs
really don't care crap about those they pander to. They would
rather keep them where they are than try to help them to better
themselves. Jesse and Al are the left's great American
minorities.
Keith
-------------------------------

That's a fantasy of you Rightist shit, to try to justify YOUR OWN
dishonesty and thievery.

You need to believe everyone else is as vicious and greedy as you
are so that you can feel your immorality is somehow acceptible.

The thing is, we aren't, and it isn't!

-Steve
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R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

KR Williams wrote:

They DO!
*IF* the means result in the desired ends, they ARE justified!

More RSW sillyness. According to you murder is justified, as
long as it supports your utopian plans. Uday had some good times
with this logic too.
Keith
-------------------------

He was a thief like YOU shit. His "ends" were evil.

Our ends are HUMANE! ALL means to those ends are justified!

-Steve
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R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

John S. Dyson wrote:

In article <3x2hc.731$tp5.721@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>,
"Bill" <xxx@yy.zz> writes:

"KR Williams" <krw@att.biz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aee5b3b6d9a221a98975e@news1.news.adelphia.net...

Bill Jefferson Clinton, as if you didn't know.

And who is that?

Amazing that someone talking about politics doesn't realize that
BJ Clinton is the impeached (because of telling lies in a
deposition as a court officer) ex-president of the USA.
John
------------------------

Impeachment is a trial, he was NOT found guilty.
You make it sound otherwise by mis-using the word outside context.

You ALSO pretend that the Resident is the President.
He isn't really, as November will prove!

-Steve
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Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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R. Steve Walz · Apr 21, 2004

Product developer wrote:

Actually Clinton was a racist in Arkansas. He often used the "N" word
to identify persons of color. I talked to someone that worked for him
and he said both Bill and hill were "big time racists" further
supporting the hypocrite charge made by Dyson. This man and his wife
are opportunists in the extreme. Completely void of honor or any code
of ethics.
--------------

There are liars, damned liars, and then you, you fucking liar.

If the left wanted to know why people like myself could not lower
ourselves to accept these people it comes down to honesty. I was
brought up believe that good was good and bad was bad.

Liberalism, MTV, pop culture, and political correctness have changed
all the rules. Up is down, black is white, and there is no right or
wrong. Criminals were not wrong they were just misunderstood. Society
was to blame for homelessness and those who live generation to
generation on welfare.
-----------------

Rightist bigot hobbyhorse.

Conservatives were completely dumbfounded. Everything we believed in
was turned upside down. A man we would not hire to do our windows was
in charge of the U.S. Government and military.
--------------------

The first president with an IQ above 150 this century.

A man who loathed the
military and authority was now in charge. To me this was like Charles
Manson being paroled and assigned head of the DEA. How could a country
come so far and produce a populace so ignorant and complacent that it
could put a guy like this in office?
----------------------------

More of your typical republican penis envy.

-Steve
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Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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Richard Henry · Apr 21, 2004

"Product developer" <jdurban@vorel.com> wrote in message
news:118afaeb.0404202225.62916d76@posting.google.com...

Conservatives were completely dumbfounded. Everything we believed in
was turned upside down. A man we would not hire to do our windows was
in charge of the U.S. Government and military. A man who loathed the
military and authority was now in charge. To me this was like Charles
Manson being paroled and assigned head of the DEA. How could a country
come so far and produce a populace so ignorant and complacent that it
could put a guy like this in office?

Many people think similar things about W.

How could we come so far as a nation only to produce a populace that
is too lazy to read beyond the headline or listen beyond the sound
bite. Clinton and his crew would capitalize on this phenomenon early
in their administration and began a regular program of disseminating
sound bite attack mantras that began to be heard around every water
cooler. A complicit press would reinforce the mantras and allow
supporters to mutter these mantras without any cross-examination. You
heard ridiculous statements like "Newt Gingrich wants to let Medicare
wither on the vine". Or "Republicans want to starve school children".
Carefully crafted does of little mantras went out weekly like
clockwork attempting to capture the less mentally fortunate as minions
to pass on the message.

Conservatives became infuriated that everything coming out of the
Whitehouse was completely fraudulent drivel but millions were buying
the spoon-fed propaganda.

Oh, you ARE talking about W.

John Larkin · Apr 21, 2004

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:28:22 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com>
wrote:

Product developer wrote:

Actually Clinton was a racist in Arkansas. He often used the "N" word
to identify persons of color. I talked to someone that worked for him
and he said both Bill and hill were "big time racists" further
supporting the hypocrite charge made by Dyson. This man and his wife
are opportunists in the extreme. Completely void of honor or any code
of ethics.
--------------
There are liars, damned liars, and then you, you fucking liar.

If the left wanted to know why people like myself could not lower
ourselves to accept these people it comes down to honesty. I was
brought up believe that good was good and bad was bad.

Liberalism, MTV, pop culture, and political correctness have changed
all the rules. Up is down, black is white, and there is no right or
wrong. Criminals were not wrong they were just misunderstood. Society
was to blame for homelessness and those who live generation to
generation on welfare.
-----------------
Rightist bigot hobbyhorse.

Conservatives were completely dumbfounded. Everything we believed in
was turned upside down. A man we would not hire to do our windows was
in charge of the U.S. Government and military.
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The first president with an IQ above 150 this century.

A man who loathed the
military and authority was now in charge. To me this was like Charles
Manson being paroled and assigned head of the DEA. How could a country
come so far and produce a populace so ignorant and complacent that it
could put a guy like this in office?
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More of your typical republican penis envy.

-Steve

Gosh Steve, I thought you were a Communist. What a dissapointment to
find that you are merely a Democrat.

John

Jim Thompson · Apr 21, 2004

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:06:08 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:28:22 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com
wrote:

[snip]
There are liars, damned liars, and then you, you fucking liar.

[snip]
-Steve

Gosh Steve, I thought you were a Communist. What a dissapointment to
find that you are merely a Democrat.

John

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John Woodgate · Apr 21, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote (in <7c584d27.0404210313.54bca3b7@posting.google.com&gt

about 'OT:
Al Franken', on Wed, 21 Apr 2004:

And not buying the conservatives fraudulent drivel. You seem strangely
relucant to notice that Dubbya sold the invasion of Irak on the basis
that they had weapons of mass destruction that nobody has been able to
find, while supporting Israel, whose nuclear capability is well-known.

The pint is that he, and the international community in general, trusts
Israel **in the matter of WMD***, far more than they trusted Saddam. Do
you think they are wrong?

Of course, Israel is not trusted in respect of much else, and is very
widely condemned for its assassination activities.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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Jim Thompson · Apr 21, 2004

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:38:56 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

[snip]

Of course, Israel is not trusted in respect of much else, and is very
widely condemned for its assassination activities.

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John Woodgate · Apr 21, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <e06d80560jih1aijqcc41bee8vvpl990qi@
4ax.com&gt

about 'OT: Al Franken', on Wed, 21 Apr 2004:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:38:56 +0100, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

[snip]

Of course, Israel is not trusted in respect of much else, and is very
widely condemned for its assassination activities.

Oh, Really? Where IS this "widely condemned"?

Outside the USA, obviously.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

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