OT: Al Franken

You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of reality
is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic catechism,
or some such.
That's interesting you would say that, as I think your views on
reality are much more "religious" than objective, and probably
much more so than you would like.
 
"Guillaume" <grsNOSPAM@NO-SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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: > You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of reality
: > is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic catechism,
: > or some such.
:
: That's interesting you would say that, as I think your views on
: reality are much more "religious" than objective, and probably
: much more so than you would like.

And what is wrong with religion, pray tell?

Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez };-)
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Guillaume wrote:
You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of reality
is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic catechism,
or some such.

That's interesting you would say that, as I think your views on
reality are much more "religious" than objective, and probably
much more so than you would like.
-----------------
Sick Rightist Religionists like to pretend this about others who
disagree with them, because it makes it seem as if they are equal
to their enemies, which they will never be.

Objective Truth is obvious when you just stop lying disingenuously.
And that's all you're doing is lying.

-Steve
--
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In article <UZidnTN7M_EkqwTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
willy46pa@comcast says...
"Guillaume" <grsNOSPAM@NO-SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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: > You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of reality
: > is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic catechism,
: > or some such.
:
: That's interesting you would say that, as I think your views on
: reality are much more "religious" than objective, and probably
: much more so than you would like.

And what is wrong with religion, pray tell?
Nothing, as long as your religion is Walzism. Otherwise you're
to be shot on sight.

....of course Christians aren't welcome in polite society anymore
either. Even the Catholics (e.g. Kerry) have to hide their
religion behind a lie.

--
Keith
 
"KR Williams" <krw@att.biz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b037f24f2294d90989815@news1.news.adelphia.net...
: In article <UZidnTN7M_EkqwTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
: willy46pa@comcast says...
: >
: > "Guillaume" <grsNOSPAM@NO-SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:409925d8$0$315$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr...
: > : > You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of
reality
: > : > is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic
catechism,
: > : > or some such.
: > :
: > : That's interesting you would say that, as I think your
views on
: > : reality are much more "religious" than objective, and
probably
: > : much more so than you would like.
: >
: > And what is wrong with religion, pray tell?
:
: Nothing, as long as your religion is Walzism.
: Otherwise you're to be shot on sight.

I do agree with what Steve is saying in part. It is
true that what we do is what we do, once the decision
is made, then we do it, and once done it was what we
must have had to do. Naturally we can't go back and
change it after the fact. Of course he is saying that
everything is planned out from the beginning and we
have no choice, and Biblical statements attest to this.
Of course, the Bible also claims that we have to make
the choice to do them, or we have failed God, thusly
we have sinned, which according to the planned from
the beginning rule, we would have chosen that path anyway.

: ...of course Christians aren't welcome in polite
: society anymore either. Even the Catholics (e.g.
: Kerry) have to hide their religion behind a lie.

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)

Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez };-)
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Email - willy46pa @ comcast DOT net
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Bill Garber wrote:
"KR Williams" <krw@att.biz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b037f24f2294d90989815@news1.news.adelphia.net...
: In article <UZidnTN7M_EkqwTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
: willy46pa@comcast says...
:
: > "Guillaume" <grsNOSPAM@NO-SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:409925d8$0$315$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr...
: > : > You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of
reality
: > : > is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic
catechism,
: > : > or some such.
: > :
: > : That's interesting you would say that, as I think your
views on
: > : reality are much more "religious" than objective, and
probably
: > : much more so than you would like.
:
: > And what is wrong with religion, pray tell?
:
: Nothing, as long as your religion is Walzism.
: Otherwise you're to be shot on sight.

I do agree with what Steve is saying in part. It is
true that what we do is what we do, once the decision
is made, then we do it, and once done it was what we
must have had to do. Naturally we can't go back and
change it after the fact. Of course he is saying that
everything is planned out from the beginning and we
have no choice,
------------------
No, we have a choice, but it's not really ours because "we"
are a figment. We are a result of our life, not a cause.


and Biblical statements attest to this.
---------------------
A few OT stuff, but most of it is poetry that is contradicted
as often as not. The bible if insane crap written by sheepfuckers
who thought the world was flat.


Of course, the Bible also claims that we have to make
the choice to do them, or we have failed God, thusly
we have sinned, which according to the planned from
the beginning rule, we would have chosen that path anyway.
-------------------------------------
Only one version of your life, in every detail, occurs.

Divine punishment for sin is nonense, your Fate makes you
the way you are, and it would have had to fashion you
differently. However, the vengeance of others you oppress
is justified.


: ...of course Christians aren't welcome in polite
: society anymore either. Even the Catholics (e.g.
: Kerry) have to hide their religion behind a lie.

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)
Bill
-----------------------------
No, you're a victim of your brainwashed upbringing. I wish I
had the opportunity to alter you extensively by asking you a
long list of very specific questions that would lead you to
the Truth, but there's a hell of a lot of you lot to fix.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public
 
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:409AA21F.54A6@armory.com...
-----------------------------
No, you're a victim of your brainwashed upbringing. I wish I
had the opportunity to alter you extensively by asking you a
long list of very specific questions that would lead you to
the Truth, but there's a hell of a lot of you lot to fix.

-Steve
Put your money where your mouth is, if you're not just a dogmatic
wussy little posturing wannabe tyrant.

I bet a paycheck you aren't man enough to post this "long list of
very specific questions."

Sure, you're a helluva "man" when you're molesting helpless
children, and killing people from a distance without showing your
face, but you ain't got what it takes to back up your fluff.

If I'm wrong, show me.

Fool.
 
In article <3ZOdnYTalIpsDQfd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
willy46pa@comcast says...
"KR Williams" <krw@att.biz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b037f24f2294d90989815@news1.news.adelphia.net...
: In article <UZidnTN7M_EkqwTdRVn-vg@comcast.com>,
: willy46pa@comcast says...
:
: > "Guillaume" <grsNOSPAM@NO-SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:409925d8$0$315$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr...
: > : > You have no grasp of how things work. Your notion of
reality
: > : > is trapped in the inane circularities of catholic
catechism,
: > : > or some such.
: > :
: > : That's interesting you would say that, as I think your
views on
: > : reality are much more "religious" than objective, and
probably
: > : much more so than you would like.
:
: > And what is wrong with religion, pray tell?
:
: Nothing, as long as your religion is Walzism.
: Otherwise you're to be shot on sight.

I do agree with what Steve is saying in part. It is
true that what we do is what we do, once the decision
is made, then we do it, and once done it was what we
must have had to do. Naturally we can't go back and
change it after the fact. Of course he is saying that
everything is planned out from the beginning and we
have no choice, and Biblical statements attest to this.
Of course, the Bible also claims that we have to make
the choice to do them, or we have failed God, thusly
we have sinned, which according to the planned from
the beginning rule, we would have chosen that path anyway.
....wanna take that around the block again. I'm not quite dizzy
enough to fall over yet. ;-)
: ...of course Christians aren't welcome in polite
: society anymore either. Even the Catholics (e.g.
: Kerry) have to hide their religion behind a lie.

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)
Not from all angles. I'm not religious, but have no problems
with other's. ...at least so far as they don't advocate shooting
the non-believers, as does Walzism.

--
Keith
 
In article <c7j6lk$201$1@news.iquest.net>, toor@iquest.net
says...
In article <MPG.1b06d30d457a755898982b@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
KR Williams <krw@att.biz> writes:

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)

Not from all angles. I'm not religious, but have no problems
with other's. ...at least so far as they don't advocate shooting
the non-believers, as does Walzism.

As someone who is also non-religious, I fully embrace my friends
faiths. I have enjoyed friendships and relationships with various
individuals where I 'go to church or temple' with them. I see
NOTHING offensive in most mainstream religions. On the other hand,
the evangelists of the world (I mean, the aggressive ones like
Swaggart or leftists) irritate me.
Swaggart doesn't irritate me. He's only one TV button away from
silence. The leftists are irritating in that they're in-your-
face, everywhere.

--
Keith
 
On Sat, 8 May 2004 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC), toor@iquest.net (John S.
Dyson) wrote:

In article <MPG.1b06d30d457a755898982b@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
KR Williams <krw@att.biz> writes:

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)

Not from all angles. I'm not religious, but have no problems
with other's. ...at least so far as they don't advocate shooting
the non-believers, as does Walzism.

As someone who is also non-religious, I fully embrace my friends
faiths. I have enjoyed friendships and relationships with various
individuals where I 'go to church or temple' with them. I see
NOTHING offensive in most mainstream religions. On the other hand,
the evangelists of the world (I mean, the aggressive ones like
Swaggart or leftists) irritate me.
---
If you find aggressive proselytizing irritating, then just consider
what a drag it is to listen to a stupid blowhard like you preach your
prattle.

--
John Fields
 
On Sat, 8 May 2004 18:37:20 +0000 (UTC), toor@iquest.net (John S.
Dyson) wrote:

In article <bn8q909abunn2ourt9ngqcrotlq8g77972@4ax.com>,
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> writes:

If you find aggressive proselytizing irritating, then just consider
what a drag it is to listen to a stupid blowhard like you preach your
prattle.

Actually,
If you find aggressive proselytizing irritating, then just consider
what a drag it is to listen to a stupid blowhard like John Fields preach
prattle and just rant.
---
Actually,
Since you find it necessary to parrot me, I suspect that you're
running out of steam and are typing just to see yourself talk. You're
certainly not coming up with anything new, and the entertainment value
of your lackluster blather is seriously waning, so pick up the pace,
OK? That is, if you _can_...


(Hint, you don't have to read what you dont want to.)
---
Hmm... You do seem to have a remarkable grasp of the obvious.

--
John Fields
 
In article <MPG.1b06d30d457a755898982b@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
KR Williams <krw@att.biz> writes:
Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)

Not from all angles. I'm not religious, but have no problems
with other's. ...at least so far as they don't advocate shooting
the non-believers, as does Walzism.

As someone who is also non-religious, I fully embrace my friends
faiths. I have enjoyed friendships and relationships with various
individuals where I 'go to church or temple' with them. I see
NOTHING offensive in most mainstream religions. On the other hand,
the evangelists of the world (I mean, the aggressive ones like
Swaggart or leftists) irritate me.

John
 
In article <bn8q909abunn2ourt9ngqcrotlq8g77972@4ax.com>,
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> writes:
On Sat, 8 May 2004 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC), toor@iquest.net (John S.
Dyson) wrote:

In article <MPG.1b06d30d457a755898982b@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
KR Williams <krw@att.biz> writes:

Ain't that the truth. I'm probably going to be berated,
for what I said above, from all angles. 8o)

Not from all angles. I'm not religious, but have no problems
with other's. ...at least so far as they don't advocate shooting
the non-believers, as does Walzism.

As someone who is also non-religious, I fully embrace my friends
faiths. I have enjoyed friendships and relationships with various
individuals where I 'go to church or temple' with them. I see
NOTHING offensive in most mainstream religions. On the other hand,
the evangelists of the world (I mean, the aggressive ones like
Swaggart or leftists) irritate me.

If you find aggressive proselytizing irritating, then just consider
what a drag it is to listen to a stupid blowhard like you preach your
prattle.

Actually,
If you find aggressive proselytizing irritating, then just consider
what a drag it is to listen to a stupid blowhard like John Fields preach
prattle and just rant.

(Hint, you don't have to read what you dont want to.)

john
 

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