Only one EV charger at home?!...

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:58:33 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"The Natural Philosopher\" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u69cfp$3hshm$2@dont-email.me...
On 12/06/2023 20:18, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:32:27 +0100, SteveW wrote:

I think that they were initially against the idea, as the first versions
were very different to ours, with cars on the roundabout having to give
way to those entering - leading to no end of chaos and accidents.

In the \'70s I had to get a Massachusetts drivers license. Rotaries and
roundabouts were very popular in that state and in studying for the
written exam I was surprised to find that the only regulation was traffic
must go counterclockwise. When they were jammed up completely, which was
the default state around Boston, right of way was determined by
testicular
fortitude or, perhaps in the case of women, obliviousness to pending
disaster. Having a larger, older vehicle like a \'59 Cadillac with
significant body damage helped.

When I drove in Massachusetts (small towns north of Boston, Boston itself,
journey to/from Cape Cod) in 2000, rotaries were very rare. Normally you
came off a \"motorway\" and the slip road ended at a T junction where you had
to wait for f-ing ages until both directions were clear so you could turn
left to join the traffic on the road that crossed the motorway. The only
rotary that I remember was the one at the \"entrance\" to Cape Cod, which was
a large multi-lane roundabout which was perfectly easy as long as you just
did a mirror image of what you\'d do in the UK: priority to traffic from the
left. I tackled this without any problem and made my way along the road
towards the tip of the Cape. When I stopped at a roadside cafe, a guy got
out of the car behind me and came across to me: he was gobsmacked that I\'d
managed to go straight round the roundabout and made it look so easy. Then
he heard my English accent and he said \"Gee, you\'re not even American -
you\'re used to driving on the other side of the road\",

Not sure why people find driving on the other side difficult. I did it naturally when I went to France. Even drove through Paris in the rush hour. Doing things in reverse is no different than shaving in a mirror. You don\'t go and move the razor left instead of right, your brain can cope with a simple direction swap. Maybe it\'s women who can\'t do it, although they must put make up on in a mirror?

and he virtually
bowed at my feet in obeisance. ;-) \"Yeah, but I\'m crap at 4-way-stop
junctions, so I think we\'ll call it quits\" I replied.

I hadn\'t realised that there wasn\'t a priority-from-the-left rule defined in
their equivalent of the Highway Code. Perhaps I should have been a bit more
cautious and not *assumed* that traffic which wanted to join would wait for
me when I was on the roundabout...

I find driving twice as fast as other people makes them give you priority.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:51:39 +0100, Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

In message <u69cfp$3hshm$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
On 12/06/2023 20:18, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:32:27 +0100, SteveW wrote:

I think that they were initially against the idea, as the first
versions
were very different to ours, with cars on the roundabout having to give
way to those entering - leading to no end of chaos and accidents.
In the \'70s I had to get a Massachusetts drivers license. Rotaries
and
roundabouts were very popular in that state and in studying for the
written exam I was surprised to find that the only regulation was traffic
must go counterclockwise. When they were jammed up completely, which was
the default state around Boston, right of way was determined by testicular
fortitude or, perhaps in the case of women, obliviousness to pending
disaster. Having a larger, older vehicle like a \'59 Cadillac with
significant body damage helped.

Ah, the French have the best example of that in Paris. I think its
called La Peripherique Interieur or something.

Prioritée à droit rules. So people have more right to get on it, than
those already on it.

Naturally it is a complete clusterfuck.

Are you sure? Even the French have realised that \'Priorité à droit\' no
longer works, and many junctions have a \'Vous n\'avez pas priorité\', or a
\'Priorité à droit\' sign with a red line through it. The time you really
need to be careful is on the minor roads and in urban back-streets,
where the dreaded \'Priorité à droit\' still rules supreme.

I love the way they cross out village names as you leave. Quite useful actually when you\'re trying to find your way, to know what you just went through.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:04:14 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Ian Jackson\" <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:guTyWnCrwDikFwMd@brattleho.plus.com...
Are you sure? Even the French have realised that \'Priorité à droit\' no
longer works, and many junctions have a \'Vous n\'avez pas priorité\', or a
\'Priorité à droit\' sign with a red line through it. The time you really
need to be careful is on the minor roads and in urban back-streets, where
the dreaded \'Priorité à droit\' still rules supreme.

I\'m not sure what the French were smoking when they came up with the rule
that a minor road or farm track has priority over a major road.

New Zealand and/or Australia has a rule that oncoming traffic which wants to
turn right (your left) across your path into a minor road has priority over
you. That is almost as bad, but at least it is visible from a distance so
you can lift off the power to create a bit of space ahead of you to let it
happen, whereas traffic on a French side road may be obscured by
hedges/fences.

That\'s fine as long as they give you time to notice them. If they simply indicate right 1 second before they turn, what are you to do?

Both that and the French rule are simply enforcements of politeness. I don\'t understand the lack of politeness. I can be driving along at say 10-15mph in a heavy queue on a main road, and I can see about 20 cars ahead of me not letting someone out or across. I always let people out, every single time.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:58:33 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"The Natural Philosopher\" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u69cfp$3hshm$2@dont-email.me...
On 12/06/2023 20:18, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:32:27 +0100, SteveW wrote:

I think that they were initially against the idea, as the first versions
were very different to ours, with cars on the roundabout having to give
way to those entering - leading to no end of chaos and accidents.

In the \'70s I had to get a Massachusetts drivers license. Rotaries and
roundabouts were very popular in that state and in studying for the
written exam I was surprised to find that the only regulation was traffic
must go counterclockwise. When they were jammed up completely, which was
the default state around Boston, right of way was determined by
testicular
fortitude or, perhaps in the case of women, obliviousness to pending
disaster. Having a larger, older vehicle like a \'59 Cadillac with
significant body damage helped.

When I drove in Massachusetts (small towns north of Boston, Boston itself,
journey to/from Cape Cod) in 2000, rotaries were very rare. Normally you
came off a \"motorway\" and the slip road ended at a T junction where you had
to wait for f-ing ages until both directions were clear so you could turn
left to join the traffic on the road that crossed the motorway. The only
rotary that I remember was the one at the \"entrance\" to Cape Cod, which was
a large multi-lane roundabout which was perfectly easy as long as you just
did a mirror image of what you\'d do in the UK: priority to traffic from the
left. I tackled this without any problem and made my way along the road
towards the tip of the Cape. When I stopped at a roadside cafe, a guy got
out of the car behind me and came across to me: he was gobsmacked that I\'d
managed to go straight round the roundabout and made it look so easy. Then
he heard my English accent and he said \"Gee, you\'re not even American -
you\'re used to driving on the other side of the road\",

Not sure why people find driving on the other side difficult. I did it naturally when I went to France. Even drove through Paris in the rush hour. Doing things in reverse is no different than shaving in a mirror. You don\'t go and move the razor left instead of right, your brain can cope with a simple direction swap. Maybe it\'s women who can\'t do it, although they must put make up on in a mirror?

and he virtually
bowed at my feet in obeisance. ;-) \"Yeah, but I\'m crap at 4-way-stop
junctions, so I think we\'ll call it quits\" I replied.

I hadn\'t realised that there wasn\'t a priority-from-the-left rule defined in
their equivalent of the Highway Code. Perhaps I should have been a bit more
cautious and not *assumed* that traffic which wanted to join would wait for
me when I was on the roundabout...

I find driving twice as fast as other people makes them give you priority.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:04:14 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Ian Jackson\" <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:guTyWnCrwDikFwMd@brattleho.plus.com...
Are you sure? Even the French have realised that \'Priorité à droit\' no
longer works, and many junctions have a \'Vous n\'avez pas priorité\', or a
\'Priorité à droit\' sign with a red line through it. The time you really
need to be careful is on the minor roads and in urban back-streets, where
the dreaded \'Priorité à droit\' still rules supreme.

I\'m not sure what the French were smoking when they came up with the rule
that a minor road or farm track has priority over a major road.

New Zealand and/or Australia has a rule that oncoming traffic which wants to
turn right (your left) across your path into a minor road has priority over
you. That is almost as bad, but at least it is visible from a distance so
you can lift off the power to create a bit of space ahead of you to let it
happen, whereas traffic on a French side road may be obscured by
hedges/fences.

That\'s fine as long as they give you time to notice them. If they simply indicate right 1 second before they turn, what are you to do?

Both that and the French rule are simply enforcements of politeness. I don\'t understand the lack of politeness. I can be driving along at say 10-15mph in a heavy queue on a main road, and I can see about 20 cars ahead of me not letting someone out or across. I always let people out, every single time.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 10:58:33 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"The Natural Philosopher\" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u69cfp$3hshm$2@dont-email.me...
On 12/06/2023 20:18, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:32:27 +0100, SteveW wrote:

I think that they were initially against the idea, as the first versions
were very different to ours, with cars on the roundabout having to give
way to those entering - leading to no end of chaos and accidents.

In the \'70s I had to get a Massachusetts drivers license. Rotaries and
roundabouts were very popular in that state and in studying for the
written exam I was surprised to find that the only regulation was traffic
must go counterclockwise. When they were jammed up completely, which was
the default state around Boston, right of way was determined by
testicular
fortitude or, perhaps in the case of women, obliviousness to pending
disaster. Having a larger, older vehicle like a \'59 Cadillac with
significant body damage helped.

When I drove in Massachusetts (small towns north of Boston, Boston itself,
journey to/from Cape Cod) in 2000, rotaries were very rare. Normally you
came off a \"motorway\" and the slip road ended at a T junction where you had
to wait for f-ing ages until both directions were clear so you could turn
left to join the traffic on the road that crossed the motorway. The only
rotary that I remember was the one at the \"entrance\" to Cape Cod, which was
a large multi-lane roundabout which was perfectly easy as long as you just
did a mirror image of what you\'d do in the UK: priority to traffic from the
left. I tackled this without any problem and made my way along the road
towards the tip of the Cape. When I stopped at a roadside cafe, a guy got
out of the car behind me and came across to me: he was gobsmacked that I\'d
managed to go straight round the roundabout and made it look so easy. Then
he heard my English accent and he said \"Gee, you\'re not even American -
you\'re used to driving on the other side of the road\",

Not sure why people find driving on the other side difficult. I did it naturally when I went to France. Even drove through Paris in the rush hour. Doing things in reverse is no different than shaving in a mirror. You don\'t go and move the razor left instead of right, your brain can cope with a simple direction swap. Maybe it\'s women who can\'t do it, although they must put make up on in a mirror?

and he virtually
bowed at my feet in obeisance. ;-) \"Yeah, but I\'m crap at 4-way-stop
junctions, so I think we\'ll call it quits\" I replied.

I hadn\'t realised that there wasn\'t a priority-from-the-left rule defined in
their equivalent of the Highway Code. Perhaps I should have been a bit more
cautious and not *assumed* that traffic which wanted to join would wait for
me when I was on the roundabout...

I find driving twice as fast as other people makes them give you priority.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 11:04:14 +0100, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Ian Jackson\" <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:guTyWnCrwDikFwMd@brattleho.plus.com...
Are you sure? Even the French have realised that \'Priorité à droit\' no
longer works, and many junctions have a \'Vous n\'avez pas priorité\', or a
\'Priorité à droit\' sign with a red line through it. The time you really
need to be careful is on the minor roads and in urban back-streets, where
the dreaded \'Priorité à droit\' still rules supreme.

I\'m not sure what the French were smoking when they came up with the rule
that a minor road or farm track has priority over a major road.

New Zealand and/or Australia has a rule that oncoming traffic which wants to
turn right (your left) across your path into a minor road has priority over
you. That is almost as bad, but at least it is visible from a distance so
you can lift off the power to create a bit of space ahead of you to let it
happen, whereas traffic on a French side road may be obscured by
hedges/fences.

That\'s fine as long as they give you time to notice them. If they simply indicate right 1 second before they turn, what are you to do?

Both that and the French rule are simply enforcements of politeness. I don\'t understand the lack of politeness. I can be driving along at say 10-15mph in a heavy queue on a main road, and I can see about 20 cars ahead of me not letting someone out or across. I always let people out, every single time.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:53:05 +0100, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2023-06-26, JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
On 26/06/2023 10:00 am, charles wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
devnull <devnull@alt.home.repair> wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
me wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

Start stop is pointless, it saves fuck all petrol to turn the
engine off for a minute.

The money you might save on gas you\'ll spend replacing the starter
motor.
As usual kinsey is exactly wrong, as are you

The more you use the starter, the sooner it will wear out.

The only motor in a Tesla is an electric motor.

Idiot, all motors are electric.

Funny, I thought they were all \"motor cars\" whatever the engine type.

\"Motor\", referring specifically to an internal combustion engine, is an
Americanism.

It\'s not even a thing. I\'m fairly sure they don\'t use motor to
specifically mean combustion engines. there are many other types of
motors.

Technically yes. But in a car you have the starter motor for the engine.

In British English, the word almost always references an
electric motor. Note that you never hear \"electric engine\".

Why bring up \"engine\" when trying to define \"motor\"?
Are logiocal fallacies all you have to defend your argument with?

Because motor and engine are the two things the Merkins are getting confused.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:18:20 +0100, JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

On 26/06/2023 10:00 am, charles wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
devnull <devnull@alt.home.repair> wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
me wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

Start stop is pointless, it saves fuck all petrol to turn the
engine off for a minute.

The money you might save on gas you\'ll spend replacing the starter
motor.
As usual kinsey is exactly wrong, as are you

The more you use the starter, the sooner it will wear out.

The only motor in a Tesla is an electric motor.

Idiot, all motors are electric.

Funny, I thought they were all \"motor cars\" whatever the engine type.

\"Motor\", referring specifically to an internal combustion engine, is an
Americanism. In British English, the word almost always references an
electric motor. Note that you never hear \"electric engine\".

The French fuck it up. When I managed to beach my small car on a beach (people were camping there), a Frenchman helping me to push it out said in broken English \"the moteur is stuck in the sand\". Maybe he meant my starter motor?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 16:51:04 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:22:48 +0100, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:

On 26/06/2023 15:06, Bob F wrote:
On 6/26/2023 3:00 AM, charles wrote:
In article <op.1640mzrcmvhs6z@ryzen>, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 15:14:56 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 07:31:13 -0400, devnull <devnull@alt.home.repair
wrote:

On 6/6/2023 7:22 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/06/2023 11:56, me wrote:
On 6/5/2023 11:40 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Start stop is pointless, it saves fuck all petrol to turn the
engine off for a minute.

The money you might save on gas you\'ll spend replacing the starter
motor.
As usual kinsey is exactly wrong, as are you

The more you use the starter, the sooner it will wear out.

The only motor in a Tesla is an electric motor.

Idiot, all motors are electric.

Then, why are there hydraulic motors?

and air motors.

And rocket motors. And protein motors, some of which spin at 100,000
RPM.

All of which need the adjective.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:45:41 +0100, Sam E <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

Idiot, all motors are electric.

Then, why are there hydraulic motors?

and air motors.

That reminds me of underwater chainsaws, that use air motors.

Can they not use electric motors?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:17:31 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 02:06:36 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I would not go into a garage and say \"the motor in my car has seized\" if
it was a petrol engine. Only an American would confuse the two.

You wouldn\'t be in that situation unless it was a British built petrol
engine. Come to think of it, are there any British owned car manufacturers
any more or just German and Indian firms using British labor?

The only engine I\'ve ever seized was a Renault. By driving it in a heatwave in France. Wasn\'t entirely the engine\'s fault, it was caused by the sheer stupidity of the water cooling which could very easily and very suddenly airlock.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:09:02 -0400, Paul wrote:

There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.

Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???

Peugeot did okay in the US for a while. For people of my generation
Renault is associated with the Dauphine, not a good pairing.

My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same company. Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 03:51:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same company.
Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?

Peugeot made bicycles long before they made cars. I think Grimaldi in
Sweden has the brand now.

They also made motorcycles and scooters but a German holding company has
the scooters now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_Metropolis_400

Depending on when you bought the bike it may have been made by Peugeot.
Who actually had the brand gets shaky in the \'90s.

Peugeots are sold in Mexico but you\'d have a better chance of sneaking a
kilo of fentanyl into the US than a Peugeot.

 

[Smolley]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 03:25:12 +0000, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 03:51:56 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same
company.
Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?

Peugeot made bicycles long before they made cars. I think Grimaldi in
Sweden has the brand now.

They also made motorcycles and scooters but a German holding company has
the scooters now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_Metropolis_400

Depending on when you bought the bike it may have been made by Peugeot.
Who actually had the brand gets shaky in the \'90s.

Peugeots are sold in Mexico but you\'d have a better chance of sneaking a
kilo of fentanyl into the US than a Peugeot.

Columbo has been seen driving a Peugeot 403 Cabriolet.

 

[Peeler]

On 7 Aug 2023 03:25:12 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Peugeot made bicycles long before they made cars. I think Grimaldi in
Sweden has the brand now.

You STILL haven\'t learned your lesson, you filthy bigmouthed senile sucker
of troll cock? Are you ready for another special treatment in these groups?
LOL

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Max Demian]

On 07/08/2023 03:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:09:02 -0400, Paul wrote:

There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.

Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???

Peugeot did okay in the US for a while.  For people of my generation
Renault is associated with the Dauphine, not a good pairing.

My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same
company.  Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?

Why did Messerschmitt, the German aircraft company, \"stoop\" to making
bubble cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_KR200 ?

(Oh yes, WW2.)

--
Max Demian

 

[Max Demian]

On 06/08/2023 02:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:55:56 +0100, Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

The root of “motor” is the Latin movere, which means “to move,” which is
a pretty literal definition of what a “motor” does.

Automobiles move people, it motors them along.

I say car, not automobile.  I ain\'t Latin.

It\'s Latin and (ancient) Greek, via French.

--
Max Demian

 

[Smolley]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:52:54 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

On 07/08/2023 03:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:09:02 -0400, Paul wrote:

There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.

Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???

Peugeot did okay in the US for a while.  For people of my generation
Renault is associated with the Dauphine, not a good pairing.

My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same
company.  Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?

Why did Messerschmitt, the German aircraft company, \"stoop\" to making
bubble cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_KR200 ?

(Oh yes, WW2.)

The same reason Heinkel and BMW made bubble cars.

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:54:10 +0100, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

I say car, not automobile.  I ain\'t Latin.

It\'s Latin and (ancient) Greek, via French.

It\'s again off topic senile SHIT in these groups, you off topic senile
SHITHEAD!

--
Max Dumb having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>