Only one EV charger at home?!...

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 11:07:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

In the UK when I passed it could be either. In fact I did it in my
mothers car.

In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 04:45:46 -0400, micky wrote:

Also in 1963 in Indianapolis, where driver\'s ed was part of high school
and offered to everyone, and taken by everyone.

Unless you were too young during your high school years... On ther plus
side I didn\'t have to watch the gory movie that was part of the course.

 

[Bob F]

On 4/21/2023 7:05 AM, SH wrote:

The only car that I just could not get to grips with was a diesel VW
Golf. Not sure which Mark but it had the older Pumpe Duse engine
rather than the present HDi-type engine. I\'m used to driving diesels,
and I know that it is difficult to stall them: at worst then engine
will just labour a bit and fail to accelerate. Even petrols do this,
though the point at which they start to labour may be at a higher
engine speed so they are a bit less forgiving.

This car was different. There was something about it (maybe some weird
programming in the engine-management system) that meant that if you
didn\'t apply quite enough power, the engine would stall completely as
if the fuel had been cut off (*). No warning signs to give you chance
to apply slightly more power, to dip the clutch slightly or to change
down. Just a toddler\'s approach of throwing its toys out of the pram
if you didn\'t get it right. Despite being used to driving diesels,
I\'ve never stalled a petrol engined car. But I repeatedly stalled that
diesel VW at almost every time where I had to set off from rest. And
it wasn\'t just that car that was badly-adjusted. I tried another one
with the same engine a while later to see if it was as bad as I
remembered. The sales assistant said the almost everyone stalls that
engine until they get used to it. Not a very good advert for the car ;-)

I chose another car instead.

I have a VW Golf MKVII and this one is diesel but with a 6 speed DSG
gearbox.

The DSG box can be driven either in automatic or manual mode.

In automatic mode, it has two clutches, one for even gears and the other
for odd gears, It can change gear in less than 100 mS and it will change
down a gear if you put pedl to metal for overtaking.

There is a driving profile button for selecting economy mode all the eay
up to Sports mode.

To put in Manual, push the gear stick to the left and it then becomes a
manual paddle shift manual box.... There is no clutch pedal at all, just
move the gearstick up or down and the gearbox changes gear for you.

I think you would have got on better with this hybrid gearbox....

Does it have a torque converter? It really sounds like it is an
automatic transmission with manual override.

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:05:45 +0100, SH wrote:

To put in Manual, push the gear stick to the left and it then becomes a
manual paddle shift manual box.... There is no clutch pedal at all, just
move the gearstick up or down and the gearbox changes gear for you.

Just a fancy version of my car. I can shift into the lower gears. On long
grades where the car hunts between 3rd and 4th I often kick it down to
3rd. It\'s still an automatic.

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:39:11 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.

WTF! LOL Your latest senile shit copied and saved for further use.

--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another \"thrilling\" story
about her great life:
\"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.\"
MID: <kafp0uF6vi1U5@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:35:57 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> The high school I went to

Oh, NO! PLEASE spare everyone another \"thrilling\" story from exciting life
and about your grand personality!

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:44:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Unless you were too young during your high school years... On ther plus
side I didn\'t have to watch the gory movie that was part of the course.

I assume you could just pursue your pastime: TALKING!

--
And yet another idiotic \"cool\" line, this time about the UK, from the
resident bigmouthed all-American superhero:
\"You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice.\"
MID: <ka2vrlF6c5uU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:47:49 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My wife taught herself to drive a stick one evening when I wasn\'t up to
the task. She never got out of second but that was good enough at the
time. More formal lessons were given when I was sober.

I just no more believe any of your big stories. I suppose with \"wife\" you
really mean your husband, you fucked up individual that is all mouth!

--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:53:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Bikes tend to be a DIY learning experience since nobody is fool enough to
ride pillion behind a learner. The people with poor throttle and clutch
control tend to drop out early.

When I was selling one bike my boss expressed interest. When he found out
it wasn\'t an automatic he lost interest. I breathed a sigh of relief. He\'s
a good boss and I\'d rather he live to a ripe old age.

WONDERFUL and exciting story again, senile blabbermouth! It certainly
brought tears to many readers\' eyes. LMAO

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:31:26 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> As long as you don\'t over-rev the engine it\'s not a problem.

Your problem is that your big mouth is ALWAYS over-revved, senile
blabbermouth!

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 14:51:47 +0100, NY wrote:

I\'m not sure how well I\'d have be able to teach myself to drive a manual
car if I hadn\'t had a qualified teacher to give me feedback and advice,
to get me past the stage of repeatedly making the same mistakes and
never learning how to cure them. There is a lot to be said for driving
instructors teaching learners the basics of clutch control off-road (eg
in a deserted car park or something similar) so they are reasonably
competent in controlling the car, changing directly from any gear to any
gear without stalling or lurching forward, and recognising the signs
when you need to change down *before* you stall.

Bikes tend to be a DIY learning experience since nobody is fool enough to
ride pillion behind a learner. The people with poor throttle and clutch
control tend to drop out early.

When I was selling one bike my boss expressed interest. When he found out
it wasn\'t an automatic he lost interest. I breathed a sigh of relief. He\'s
a good boss and I\'d rather he live to a ripe old age.

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 12:59:06 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-21, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

I read about it in a book, and in 1968 when a friend wanted to start
early on our trip, he took me out in his car and let me drive it. To go
from Chicago to Pittsburgh, you only have to shift about 8 times, and
then he drove.

My husband taught himself to drive stick shift by test driving cars with
manual transmissions. I\'m pretty sure he\'d seen someone drive stick
shift, and he\'s a \"see one, do one, teach one\" kind of guy.

My wife taught herself to drive a stick one evening when I wasn\'t up to
the task. She never got out of second but that was good enough at the
time. More formal lessons were given when I was sober.

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On 4/19/23 12:36, John Larkin wrote:

[snip]

\"Our children just wont know what snow is\" etc..

At least in this valley we haven\'t had a lot of depth but the shit started
in early November

Fortunately for us, it snows nice clean white stuff here. You can even
eat it.

On the farm, we used to eat snow. In town, it can taste like chemicals.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.\" -- Patrick Henry

 

[Tim+]

NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

The only car that I just could not get to grips with was a diesel VW
Golf. Not sure which Mark but it had the older Pumpe Duse engine rather
than the present HDi-type engine. I\'m used to driving diesels, and I
know that it is difficult to stall them: at worst then engine will just
labour a bit and fail to accelerate. Even petrols do this, though the
point at which they start to labour may be at a higher engine speed so
they are a bit less forgiving.

This car was different. There was something about it (maybe some weird
programming in the engine-management system) that meant that if you
didn\'t apply quite enough power, the engine would stall completely as if
the fuel had been cut off (*).

Pretty much what it’s programmed to do I believe. Something to do with
protecting the dual mass flywheel from excessive vibration at low revs.
More rev than throttle position dependant I believe.

Probably good reasoning behind it but it takes a little getting used to at
first.

Tim

--
Please don\'t feed the trolls

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On 4/19/23 13:05, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

> I love snow and want some.  How much including shipping and taxes?

In 2021 (around Valentine\'s day) we had too much snow.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.\" -- Patrick Henry

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 15:56:45 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Just a fancy version of my car. I can shift into the lower gears. On long
grades where the car hunts between 3rd and 4th I often kick it down to
3rd. It\'s still an automatic.

Just like your mouth is an automatic, isn\'t it, you pathological senile
chatterbox? LOL

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:58:26 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 11:37:11 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 23:56:02 +0100, SteveW wrote:

That\'s normal for most cars, using vacuum servos to assist the
existing brake master cylinder. Citroens are different (they seem to
like to be weird), using a hydraulic pump to power the brakes (it also
powers the power steering and the rising and falling suspension), with
a small accumulator. Once that accumulator is emptied, not only is
there no assistance, but there are no brakes at all.

When I was looking for a car in the early \'70s I briefly considered a
DS.
Then my engineering mind totaled up how many strange and wondrous
things could go wrong.

I wound up buying an Audi. It had its share of problems as VW tried to
figure out how to build cars with the engine and transmission on the
wrong end.

They did fine with the Golf.

When we split my wife took the 100LS and I took the Lincoln. She
eventually traded it for a Rabbit and got a pittance for the Audi. The
Rabbit, which I believe was what the Golf was called in the US at the
time, was a much better car. Germans learn fast.

The Audi had a quirk. Every 15,000 miles of so it would fail to start.
Replace the plug wires and you were good for another 15,000. I carried a
spare set. There wasn\'t any roughness or anything prior to the failure. I
believe the rudimentary computer sensed something slightly out of range
and decided it was time to go on strike.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/audi/1098438-does-anyone-remember-
audi-100-ls.html

The third entry sums it up:

\"Going by Consumer Reports frequency-of-repair charts, those early Audis
were not reliable.
The April, 1978 issue has charts for 1972-\'77 cars. The Audi 100LS has a
\"much worse than average\" figure for 1972-1976 and an average rating for
1977.

Problem areas were engine mechanical, engine cooling, exhaust system, fuel
system, ignition system, automatic transmission, air conditioning, brakes
and electrical system.\"

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 11:50:14 -0500, Mark Lloyd, another absolutely brain
dead, troll-feeding, senile cretin, drivelled:


> In 2021 (around Valentine\'s day) we had too much snow.

Haven\'t these poor three newsgroups seen enough of already of your sick
trash?

 

[Mark Lloyd]

[snip]

And this one gave me a few ideas. I folded the rear seats down when I
bought it but I didn\'t think about taking the backs off entirely. I did
something like that with the pickup but never got that elaborate with the
Yaris. It certainly would be nicer if it rained than my tent.

My Hyundai Gretz isnt big enough to sleep in even with the entire back
seat removed and its only a to pins to get the entire back seat out.

Not sure about the passenger seat removed
as well, but its considerably harder to remove.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.\" -- Patrick Henry

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On 4/19/23 13:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 01:35:13 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 23:59:05 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

So the filling isn\'t 4 minutes?  I think it\'s a litre a second in the
UK.  Hardly slow enough to want to wander off.  By the time I\'d walked
to the other end of the car and back it would be full.

By law in the US the maximum rate is 10 US gallons per minute (37.9
liters). As I stood in a snow squall this afternoon, 8.2 gallons took
forever.

A the current prices, the last thing I\'m concerned about is the time
taken to empty my bank account.

I remember a $79 fillup. That was in about 2007, when prices were at
their highest.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.\" -- Patrick Henry