One with the lot!..

[Mr.T]

"Just JT" <JohnnyThor@Hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:49702a3b$0$30369$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

Also with a HTPC, it's ok when it's going ok, but sometimes you update
a
driver, codec or software etc, and it becomes unstable and you have to
stuff around for ages, or one codec conflicts with someting else or the
endless other problems waiting to happen.

So just pretend it's a stand alone commercial box that CAN'T be updated or
have codecs added, one problem solved
Or get someone to sort it out for less than the cost of an updated
replacement stand alone box.

I like to just stick a disc into a stand alone player, press play and
watch the movie.
I dont' want to set there with a HTPC and prey that it doesnt blue
screen, overheat, or pop up with some cryptic error messages.

Pity my PVR locks up far more than my Windows PC, and there are no firmware
upgrades, and no likihood of any.
Not to mention power supply has already blown once, (a known overheating
problem BTW, people have been known to bolt on an external fan since there
is no internal one, and the standard HDD runs hotter too than in a PC.)
When it's out of warranty you can't simply buy a new PSU for $30 and bolt it
in.
And upgrade = throw it away and buy a new one.

Those issues are trivial to the knowledgeable. If you aren't, you can get
your friendly computer shop to fix the issues for you.

For the $1700 cost of that Panasonic proprietary device, you can get a
more-than-decent PC to do what the Pana device can do and MORE.
--
PC=more.bang.for.buck.

Absolutely, more customisable, more upgradeable, more repairable, but also a
lot bigger, that is the only real downside IMO.

MrT.

 

[blofelds_cat]

Ted wrote:

Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:4970082a$0$2577$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy, consumes a lot
of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more space and probably needs
wireless mouse to even come close to the convenience of a nice small
remote control?


I agree with that.
Also with a HTPC, it's ok when it's going ok, but sometimes you update a
driver, codec or software etc, and it becomes unstable and you have to stuff
around for ages, or one codec conflicts with someting else or the endless
other problems waiting to happen.
I like to just stick a disc into a stand alone player, press play and watch
the movie.
I dont' want to set there with a HTPC and prey that it doesnt blue screen,
overheat, or pop up with some cryptic error messages.

I'm with you. I just want to stick a disc in a press play. and could you
imagine grannies and the technically challenged who can barely cope with
playing a disc trying to master a PC controlled system!?

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6tal78F9vg02U1@mid.individual.net...

trivially.

I've been doing it for years now.

ROFLMAO
You said it Roddles. Trivia IS YOUR speciality.
Back on aus.electronics and floundering as usual on a subject and newsgroup
you are well out of your depth on.

 

[Rod Speed]

Alan Rutlidge wrote

Just JT <JohnnyThor@Hotmale.com> wrote
Alan Rutlidge <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote

I can just imaging enjoying the movie soundtrack with the PC's fans
whirring constantly in the background.
Most PC fans are blood noisy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
New PCs have quiet design. New fan design offer quiet operation.

I've already got 2 PCs. A desktop and a notebook. Why the fuck
would I want another Windose based PITA POS in my livingroom?
~~~~~~~~~~~
Who says you have to run Windows on the PC?

Most of the software packages are designed to run under Windows.

Irrelevant if what you want to run doesnt need it.

Not all software will run under (say Linux),

Irrelevant if what you want to run does.

nor are there device drivers as well catered for under non-Windows OS'.

Irrelevant if what you want to use is.

Nice quiet fanless media boxes are already available for a fraction
of the cost of a PC. The WD TV HD Media box
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 costs under
$199 and plays lots of video and audio formats.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Lots but NOT ALL. A PC can play **ANY FORMAT** as you can install
codec and what not.

It's software upgradeable. Did an upgrade to mine yesterday.

Nothing like as upgradeable as a PC.

It supports most of the formats and if it doesn't just convert them with the supplied software on your existing PC.

Dont have to bother with a properly configured PC.

Tried buying an off the shelf PC that doesn't come with a Windows OS already loaded (which incidentally you pay for)
other than a Mac?

Yep, did it just the other day.

Not much to chose from.

Pig ignorant lie. Virtually all of the online seller have those available.

Other option is DIY machine, then instal an OS of your choice

Hardly anything like rocket science.

or perhaps scrap the existing OS on a pre-built machine and load your choice of OS.

Hardly anything like rocket science.

All takes time.

Seconds if you know what you are doing and go and do something else while it happens.

Time is money.

Wrong, as always.

Hook it up to any USB drive (accepts up to 2 devices) and play your files from there. USB HDD are usually very
quiet too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
This device doesn't have a TV tuner, thus it won't record FTV. And it won't play BluRay disks. In short it's a waste
of $199.

Only in your opinion.

Corse yours are nothing like opinions, eh ?

Okay, so take an existing PC, add a Blu-ray drive to it because most don't have one and the ones that do are
expensive.

Or dont bother.

Then add a HD digital TV tuner card to it (more money).

Nothing like as much as the device being discussed does.

Make sure it has a HDMI full HD video card that can do 1080p 50Hz , 60Hz and 24fps (more money)

Peanuts.

and more noisy fans.

Dont need any noisy fans at all.

Then shell out for a decent media indexing / search / player program

Dont need to pay a cent for what I use.

(hold that idea you'd either download a pirate copy or use some useless freeware - LOL)

Or use some useful freeware instead.

USB mass storage is cheap.

True for both configs.

The WD box can fully support existing 2TB external drives and accepts up to 2 devices (total so far 4TB).

The PC is MUCH more flexible in that regard. In spades if you have enough
of a clue to choose a motherboard which supports lots of sata drives.

Inexpensive, portable and reusable.

Just as true of the PC route.

If I don't want to use the WD HD TV media box anymore, the most I stand to lose is the $199.

I used the old PC for the PVR so that didnt cost me a cent.

A full blown HD media PC will cost a lot more.

Wrong, as always.

Another point in favour of the WD HD TV media box is that if I ever do want to get rid of it I can put it on Fleabay
and the postage to anywhere in Australia is bugger all (about $11.00), whereas it would cost a lot more for a media
PC.

Who cares, the buyer pays that, stupid.

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,
consumes a lot of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more space and probably needs wireless mouse to even
come close to the convenience of a nice small remote control?

~~~~~~~~~~~
More functionality and extensibility which a proprietary device will ever provide.

So how much does it cost for a decent dedicated HT PC?

Much less than you paid thanks.

Give me some Australian retailers (links) where I can compare prices in support of your argument.

Dont need any of those if you use what you'd otherwise discard.

PC=more.functionality.at.a.reasonable.price.

Full stops between the words in a sentence - how quaint.

You just aren't getting it are you?

Nothing to 'get'

If you are already reading this or posting on the internet from home you already own a bloody PC of one sort or
another.

So you can use that for the HT/PVR, stupid.

What's the point in buying yet another bloody cumbersome, power hungry and noisy box to take up yet more bloody space.
You can't watch TV and surf the Net at the same time.

Wrong, as always.

 

[Rod Speed]

blofelds_cat wrote:

Ted wrote:

Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:4970082a$0$2577$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,
consumes a lot of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more
space and probably needs wireless mouse to even come close to the
convenience of a nice small remote control?


I agree with that.
Also with a HTPC, it's ok when it's going ok, but sometimes you
update a driver, codec or software etc, and it becomes unstable and
you have to stuff around for ages, or one codec conflicts with
someting else or the endless other problems waiting to happen.
I like to just stick a disc into a stand alone player, press play
and watch the movie.
I dont' want to set there with a HTPC and prey that it doesnt blue
screen, overheat, or pop up with some cryptic error messages.

I'm with you. I just want to stick a disc in a press play.

You dont even have to press play if you use a PC.

and could you imagine grannies and the technically challenged who can barely cope with playing a disc trying to master
a PC controlled system!?

Perfectly possible when its setup properly.

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6talomF9ql8eU1@mid.individual.net...

I routinely record 3 channels at once, occasionally 4.

Geez, Roddles you really need to get a life.
There is fuck all on FTA, OozStar and FauxTel worth recording, yet somehow
you find 3 or 4 programmes of TV trash to record simultaneously! ROLFMAO -
again.

 

[Rod Speed]

Just JT wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~
More functionality and extensibility which a proprietary device
will ever provide.

And a hell of a lot more channels simultaneously recording than the
original device too.

I routinely record 3 channels at once, occasionally 4.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Are you able to record Foxtel?

I dont bother anymore.

Dont have the time to watch everthing that shows up on free
to air TV, so dont bother with foxtel or austar anymore.

What is your solution?

Use the box they supply that does that.

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Alan Rutlidge wrote:
"Just JT" <JohnnyThor@Hotmale.com> wrote in message
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"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote in message
news:cxubl.11037$cu.1668@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

At last!..

http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=4337

$1690 at JB..!

~~~~~~~~~~~~
BluRay is a rip off. And for that money, I'd get a decent
custom-built Desktop PC and use it as a media centre PC.

--
I.watch.video.media.from.hard.drive.

I can just imaging enjoying the movie soundtrack with the PC's fans
whirring constantly in the background.
Most PC fans are blood noisy.

You just get a PC with quiet ones. Not a shred of rocket science whatever
required.

I've already got 2 PCs. A desktop and a notebook. Why the fuck would I
want another Windose based PITA POS in my livingroom?

Because its a lot more convenient to use that what he listed.

Nice quiet fanless media boxes are already available for a fraction of
the cost of a PC.

It costs peanuts to make a PC silent.

Peanuts hey? So what do you do Roddles? Take the fans out? LOL
All fans make some noise. There ain't no silent ones. Quiet maybe, but not
silent.

The WD TV HD Media box
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 costs under
$199 and plays lots of video and audio formats. Hook it up to any
USB drive (accepts up to 2 devices) and play your files from there. USB
HDD are usually very quiet too.

Much more flexible to have a PC that does all the recording of what you
want
to watch and be able to play what you have recorded any time you like.

Most people who are reading these post already have a PC. Why would they
want another one?

No farting around changing the media like you'd have to do with the item
the OP listed.

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,

You buy one which aint.

Give some example Roddles and stop dodging the question.

consumes a lot of power,

Mine consumes fuck all.

Actually measured it have you? What power consumption figure did you get?
The WD HD TV media box is powered by the supplied 12v / 1.5A plugpack (18W
max).
Likewise the WD 1TB USB drive. That totals 36 watts maximum while in use.
In reality it's most likely less.
Find me a desktop PC which consumes the same or less power while performing
the same function of playing back a movie or audio.

takes time to boot,

Mine doesnt and its almost never booted anyway.

Oh, a PC that doesn't take any time to be booted from a warm or cold start.
Geez, I'd like to see that.
The only PC mobos I know of which are quick off the mark which have the OS
on a chip are Asrocks.
Or IOW in the case of your PC it's on all the time consuming power, even
when it's not in use?
Certainly explains your moronic previous replies and political style each
way bet answers.

takes up a lot more space

I've got plenty of space.

Yes, and it's mainly in your air head.

and probably needs wireless mouse to even come close to the convenience
of a nice small remote control?

I use a wireless mouse anyway. And the same one across all the PCs using
synergy.

Ooooooh, is that supposed to impress the masses?

 

[blofelds_cat]

Rod Speed wrote:

blofelds_cat wrote:

Ted wrote:

Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:4970082a$0$2577$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,
consumes a lot of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more
space and probably needs wireless mouse to even come close to the
convenience of a nice small remote control?

I agree with that.
Also with a HTPC, it's ok when it's going ok, but sometimes you
update a driver, codec or software etc, and it becomes unstable and
you have to stuff around for ages, or one codec conflicts with
someting else or the endless other problems waiting to happen.
I like to just stick a disc into a stand alone player, press play
and watch the movie.
I dont' want to set there with a HTPC and prey that it doesnt blue
screen, overheat, or pop up with some cryptic error messages.

I'm with you. I just want to stick a disc in a press play.


You dont even have to press play if you use a PC.

So how do you play a movie?

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[Just JT]

"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

You dont even have to press play if you use a PC.


So how do you play a movie?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

By default, a PC will AUTOPLAY the movie on the disc when inserted to the
disc drive.

--
PC.easier.to.use.than.any.appliance.

 

[blofelds_cat]

Just JT wrote:

"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:


You dont even have to press play if you use a PC.


So how do you play a movie?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By default, a PC will AUTOPLAY the movie on the disc when inserted to
the disc drive.

--
PC.easier.to.use.than.any.appliance.

So does a DVD player. But I thought the idea of using the PC was to play
movies off it's hard drive. And what sort of connection are we talking
about from the PC to the panel? PC's don't have HDMI or component out
(do they?) which are needed for HD.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[Just JT]

"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

So how do you play a movie?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By default, a PC will AUTOPLAY the movie on the disc when inserted to the
disc drive.

--
PC.easier.to.use.than.any.appliance.


So does a DVD player. But I thought the idea of using the PC was to play
movies off it's hard drive.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That, too. You can even watch a movie streaming from the internet.

And what sort of connection are we talking about from the PC to the panel?
PC's don't have HDMI or component out (do they?) which are needed for HD.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

HDMI is certainly available. You can have whatever TV interface you want
with PC. It's all about flexibility.

--
PC.has.no.limitations.

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6tb1bjF4dqkjU1@mid.individual.net...

Alan Rutlidge wrote
Just JT <JohnnyThor@Hotmale.com> wrote
Alan Rutlidge <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote

I can just imaging enjoying the movie soundtrack with the PC's fans
whirring constantly in the background.
Most PC fans are blood noisy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
New PCs have quiet design. New fan design offer quiet operation.

I've already got 2 PCs. A desktop and a notebook. Why the fuck
would I want another Windose based PITA POS in my livingroom?
~~~~~~~~~~~
Who says you have to run Windows on the PC?

Most of the software packages are designed to run under Windows.

Irrelevant if what you want to run doesnt need it.

Not all software will run under (say Linux),

Irrelevant if what you want to run does.

nor are there device drivers as well catered for under non-Windows OS'.

Irrelevant if what you want to use is.

Nice quiet fanless media boxes are already available for a fraction
of the cost of a PC. The WD TV HD Media box
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 costs under
$199 and plays lots of video and audio formats.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Lots but NOT ALL. A PC can play **ANY FORMAT** as you can install
codec and what not.

It's software upgradeable. Did an upgrade to mine yesterday.

Nothing like as upgradeable as a PC.

It supports most of the formats and if it doesn't just convert them with
the supplied software on your existing PC.

Dont have to bother with a properly configured PC.

Tried buying an off the shelf PC that doesn't come with a Windows OS
already loaded (which incidentally you pay for) other than a Mac?

Yep, did it just the other day.

Not much to chose from.

Pig ignorant lie. Virtually all of the online seller have those available.

Other option is DIY machine, then instal an OS of your choice

Hardly anything like rocket science.

or perhaps scrap the existing OS on a pre-built machine and load your
choice of OS.

Hardly anything like rocket science.

All takes time.

Seconds if you know what you are doing and go and do something else while
it happens.

Time is money.

Wrong, as always.

Hook it up to any USB drive (accepts up to 2 devices) and play your
files from there. USB HDD are usually very quiet too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
This device doesn't have a TV tuner, thus it won't record FTV. And it
won't play BluRay disks. In short it's a waste of $199.

Only in your opinion.

Corse yours are nothing like opinions, eh ?

Okay, so take an existing PC, add a Blu-ray drive to it because most
don't have one and the ones that do are expensive.

Or dont bother.

Then add a HD digital TV tuner card to it (more money).

Nothing like as much as the device being discussed does.

Make sure it has a HDMI full HD video card that can do 1080p 50Hz , 60Hz
and 24fps (more money)

Peanuts.

and more noisy fans.

Dont need any noisy fans at all.

Then shell out for a decent media indexing / search / player program

Dont need to pay a cent for what I use.

(hold that idea you'd either download a pirate copy or use some useless
freeware - LOL)

Or use some useful freeware instead.

USB mass storage is cheap.

True for both configs.

The WD box can fully support existing 2TB external drives and accepts up
to 2 devices (total so far 4TB).

The PC is MUCH more flexible in that regard. In spades if you have enough
of a clue to choose a motherboard which supports lots of sata drives.

Inexpensive, portable and reusable.

Just as true of the PC route.

If I don't want to use the WD HD TV media box anymore, the most I stand
to lose is the $199.

I used the old PC for the PVR so that didnt cost me a cent.

A full blown HD media PC will cost a lot more.

Wrong, as always.

Another point in favour of the WD HD TV media box is that if I ever do
want to get rid of it I can put it on Fleabay and the postage to anywhere
in Australia is bugger all (about $11.00), whereas it would cost a lot
more for a media PC.

Who cares, the buyer pays that, stupid.

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,
consumes a lot of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more space
and probably needs wireless mouse to even come close to the convenience
of a nice small remote control?

~~~~~~~~~~~
More functionality and extensibility which a proprietary device will
ever provide.

So how much does it cost for a decent dedicated HT PC?

Much less than you paid thanks.

Give me some Australian retailers (links) where I can compare prices in
support of your argument.

Dont need any of those if you use what you'd otherwise discard.

PC=more.functionality.at.a.reasonable.price.

Full stops between the words in a sentence - how quaint.

You just aren't getting it are you?

Nothing to 'get'

If you are already reading this or posting on the internet from home you
already own a bloody PC of one sort or another.

So you can use that for the HT/PVR, stupid.

What's the point in buying yet another bloody cumbersome, power hungry
and noisy box to take up yet more bloody space. You can't watch TV and
surf the Net at the same time.

Wrong, as always.

Just the sort of mindless drivel "bot" responses without any evidence to
back then up with is what is expected from a no hoper now unemployed PMG
strike breaking mail van driver. Most likely the most gainful employment
you've had all your life Roddles.

Oh, yes they do call you "RodBot" don't they? ROFLMAO

 

[atec77]

Alan Rutlidge wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6tb1bjF4dqkjU1@mid.individual.net...
Alan Rutlidge wrote
Just JT <JohnnyThor@Hotmale.com> wrote
Alan Rutlidge <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote
I can just imaging enjoying the movie soundtrack with the PC's fans
whirring constantly in the background.
Most PC fans are blood noisy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
New PCs have quiet design. New fan design offer quiet operation.
I've already got 2 PCs. A desktop and a notebook. Why the fuck
would I want another Windose based PITA POS in my livingroom?
~~~~~~~~~~~
Who says you have to run Windows on the PC?
Most of the software packages are designed to run under Windows.
Irrelevant if what you want to run doesnt need it.

Not all software will run under (say Linux),
Irrelevant if what you want to run does.

nor are there device drivers as well catered for under non-Windows OS'.
Irrelevant if what you want to use is.

Nice quiet fanless media boxes are already available for a fraction
of the cost of a PC. The WD TV HD Media box
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572 costs under
$199 and plays lots of video and audio formats.
~~~~~~~~~~~
Lots but NOT ALL. A PC can play **ANY FORMAT** as you can install
codec and what not.
It's software upgradeable. Did an upgrade to mine yesterday.
Nothing like as upgradeable as a PC.

It supports most of the formats and if it doesn't just convert them with
the supplied software on your existing PC.
Dont have to bother with a properly configured PC.

Tried buying an off the shelf PC that doesn't come with a Windows OS
already loaded (which incidentally you pay for) other than a Mac?
Yep, did it just the other day.

Not much to chose from.
Pig ignorant lie. Virtually all of the online seller have those available.

Other option is DIY machine, then instal an OS of your choice
Hardly anything like rocket science.

or perhaps scrap the existing OS on a pre-built machine and load your
choice of OS.
Hardly anything like rocket science.

All takes time.
Seconds if you know what you are doing and go and do something else while
it happens.

Time is money.
Wrong, as always.

Hook it up to any USB drive (accepts up to 2 devices) and play your
files from there. USB HDD are usually very quiet too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
This device doesn't have a TV tuner, thus it won't record FTV. And it
won't play BluRay disks. In short it's a waste of $199.
Only in your opinion.
Corse yours are nothing like opinions, eh ?

Okay, so take an existing PC, add a Blu-ray drive to it because most
don't have one and the ones that do are expensive.
Or dont bother.

Then add a HD digital TV tuner card to it (more money).
Nothing like as much as the device being discussed does.

Make sure it has a HDMI full HD video card that can do 1080p 50Hz , 60Hz
and 24fps (more money)
Peanuts.

and more noisy fans.
Dont need any noisy fans at all.

Then shell out for a decent media indexing / search / player program
Dont need to pay a cent for what I use.

(hold that idea you'd either download a pirate copy or use some useless
freeware - LOL)
Or use some useful freeware instead.

USB mass storage is cheap.
True for both configs.

The WD box can fully support existing 2TB external drives and accepts up
to 2 devices (total so far 4TB).
The PC is MUCH more flexible in that regard. In spades if you have enough
of a clue to choose a motherboard which supports lots of sata drives.

Inexpensive, portable and reusable.
Just as true of the PC route.

If I don't want to use the WD HD TV media box anymore, the most I stand
to lose is the $199.
I used the old PC for the PVR so that didnt cost me a cent.

A full blown HD media PC will cost a lot more.
Wrong, as always.

Another point in favour of the WD HD TV media box is that if I ever do
want to get rid of it I can put it on Fleabay and the postage to anywhere
in Australia is bugger all (about $11.00), whereas it would cost a lot
more for a media PC.
Who cares, the buyer pays that, stupid.

If you've already got a PC, why buy a HT PC which is noisy,
consumes a lot of power, takes time to boot, takes up a lot more space
and probably needs wireless mouse to even come close to the convenience
of a nice small remote control?
~~~~~~~~~~~
More functionality and extensibility which a proprietary device will
ever provide.
So how much does it cost for a decent dedicated HT PC?
Much less than you paid thanks.

Give me some Australian retailers (links) where I can compare prices in
support of your argument.
Dont need any of those if you use what you'd otherwise discard.

PC=more.functionality.at.a.reasonable.price.
Full stops between the words in a sentence - how quaint.
You just aren't getting it are you?
Nothing to 'get'

If you are already reading this or posting on the internet from home you
already own a bloody PC of one sort or another.
So you can use that for the HT/PVR, stupid.

What's the point in buying yet another bloody cumbersome, power hungry
and noisy box to take up yet more bloody space. You can't watch TV and
surf the Net at the same time.
Wrong, as always.

Just the sort of mindless drivel "bot" responses without any evidence to
back then up with is what is expected from a no hoper now unemployed PMG
strike breaking mail van driver. Most likely the most gainful employment
you've had all your life Roddles.

Oh, yes they do call you "RodBot" don't they? ROFLMAO


He only drove the van for a couple of days

general employment was toilet cleaner in the "speshul" block tech area

 

[David Segall]

blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

Oh so you're talking about setting up a PC into a home theatre set up?
So what is the PC actually doing that beats the Panasonic HD DVDR/PVR?
My favourite is automatically deleting commercials. Being able to tell

my video recorder to record something when I am away from home is a
close second. MythTV is free software and the hardware is upgradable
at discount computer shop prices. There are dozens of other reasons
<http://www.mythtv.org/detail/mythtv>.

 

[Polly the Parrot]

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:14:39 GMT, David Segall <david@address.invalid>
wrote:

Oh so you're talking about setting up a PC into a home theatre set up?
So what is the PC actually doing that beats the Panasonic HD DVDR/PVR?
My favourite is automatically deleting commercials. Being able to tell
my video recorder to record something when I am away from home is a
close second. MythTV is free software and the hardware is upgradable
at discount computer shop prices. There are dozens of other reasons
http://www.mythtv.org/detail/mythtv>.

Personally, there is so much crap on TV I really can't believe that
anyone would want to record anything at all.

 

[atec77]

Polly the Parrot wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:14:39 GMT, David Segall <david@address.invalid
wrote:

Oh so you're talking about setting up a PC into a home theatre set up?
So what is the PC actually doing that beats the Panasonic HD DVDR/PVR?
My favourite is automatically deleting commercials. Being able to tell
my video recorder to record something when I am away from home is a
close second. MythTV is free software and the hardware is upgradable
at discount computer shop prices. There are dozens of other reasons
http://www.mythtv.org/detail/mythtv>.


Personally, there is so much crap on TV I really can't believe that
anyone would want to record anything at all.
You're showing a very retarded view of others amusement

 

[David Segall]

blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

Just JT wrote:


"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:


You dont even have to press play if you use a PC.


So how do you play a movie?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By default, a PC will AUTOPLAY the movie on the disc when inserted to
the disc drive.

--
PC.easier.to.use.than.any.appliance.


So does a DVD player. But I thought the idea of using the PC was to play
movies off it's hard drive.
This is definitely the best way to take advantage of a Bigpond Movies

Free Trial <http://dvd.bigpondmovies.com/how-it-works> especially now
that a terabyte drive costs less than $180.00 Otherwise, you can
just watch the DVD in the normal way. My MythTV brings up a menu when
you insert a DVD so you can choose.

about from the PC to the panel? PC's don't have HDMI or component out
(do they?) which are needed for HD.
HDMI output is widely available. In any case, all of them provide DVI

output which exceeds the requirements of HDTV and a separate audio
cable is not a problem.

 

[Rod Speed]

Alan Rutlidge wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

trivially.

I've been doing it for years now.

ROFLMAO
You said it Roddles. Trivia IS YOUR speciality.
Back on aus.electronics

Wrong, as always.

and floundering as usual on a subject and
newsgroup you are well out of your depth on.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

No surprise that it got the bums rush, right out the door onto its lard arse.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
Alan Rutlidge desperately attempted to
bullshit its way out of its predicament and
fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.