New test for Coronavirus

[bitrex]

On 3/26/2020 11:09 PM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:11:56 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 3/26/2020 11:27 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:45:05 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

Trumps US policy looks like a deliberate and cynical attempt to cull the
poor, economically inactive and elderly section of the US population. It
will be interesting to see how such a laissez faire approach pans out.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

That's an appalling (not to mention irrational) conspiracy theory.

We've heard rumor after rumor after myth about how President Trump
'refused' WHO tests (never happened), 'censored' CDC officials
(didn't), disassembled our bioresponse capability (didn't).

It's all nonsense.

President Trump has been doing a awful lot to address this unknown
quantity in a rational, effective manner during a time when his
detractors have been spreading the virus, then complaining (even
as they cry for help.

Meanwhile NYC was busy thwarting the president's effort to stem the
influx, still having China-centered festivals and a parade nine days
after President Trump cut off travel from China, with NYC's Health
Commissioner urging New Yorkers not to let 'misinformation' about the
risk of spreading COVID dissuade them from joining the virus-sharing
party that has now spread its seed across the United States.

I don't see how that adds up to "President Trump intentionally
targeting seniors."

Cheers,
James Arthur


My suburban Asian-immigrant neighbors tend to be extremely sanitary and
cautious and wear masks when ill even in other times and are staying
home and have been for a while now.

Unlike a number of my white suburban neighbors who tend to be truly
pig-ignorant stupos in the face of any sort of real crisis. They're none
too bright at the best of times and they'd still be running around out
there LA LA LA LA until someone had the good sense to shut down the
Starbucks.

For Pete's sake, cleanliness and race have nothing to do with it.

Big gatherings mixing newbies with people who have likely come from
a plague area is a bad idea.

There is zero evidence "Chinese festivals" or Chinese travelers had a
thing to do with it. Looks like the first cases were Americans traveling
around the world as wealthy Americans tend to do.

NYC overflowing with infections isn't proof enough for you that their
experiment mixing infected and non-infected people was insane? It
sure ought to be.

Cheers,
James Arthur

"their experiment"? What should they have done circa late February when
the first case was detected? How were they to determine who was infected
or not test the whole city? There were no kits available and still aren't.

Should they have locked down the whole city immediately? NYC is the
center of the US financial sector that would have smashed the stock
market thru the floor while Trump was still running his "Everything is
fine"-game, before his cronies and business associates had finished
dumping their shares.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

More news!

<https://conservativefighters.org/news/epidemiologist-behind-highly-cited-coronavirus-model-drastically-downgrades-projection/

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 2:21:10 PM UTC+11, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/03/26 2:03 p.m., bitrex wrote:
On 3/26/2020 11:27 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:45:05 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

<snip>

Yeah, Trump was still dribbling on about "foreign viruses" and bullshit
as if you could exclusively get the virus from Chinese restaurants long
after the number of red-blooded white Americans infected greatly
exceeded the number of Chinese. You'd probably be safer at a Chinese
festival at this point

Unfortunately the USA is indeed number one now:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The U.S. infection rate is currently 36th on that list at 259 ppm,
which is lower than nearly all of Europe. Sweden, which, interestingly,
has not locked down, is at 281 ppm. France is at 447 ppm, Germany 524 ppm,
Norway 622 ppm, Italy 1,333 ppm, Switzerland 1,365 ppm.

If New Yorkers hadn't spread it all over, the U.S. might already be past
this thing.

I'm sure that some other city would step up to the plate.

But if we gave you New York, you could be #1 in cases (and possibly,
soon, in infection rate) too.

It wouldn't last - Canada does seem to have started to get the logarithmic plot to turn down, even if the new cases per day has plateaued at around 600 to 700, for the last couple of days

And Trump is talking about putting US soldiers patrolling the border.
Does he think Canadians want to invade the USA right now?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada-idUSKBN21D2PK

Or is the plan to block Americans from fleeing?

Good question.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 3/26/2020 11:09 PM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:11:56 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 3/26/2020 11:27 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:45:05 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

Trumps US policy looks like a deliberate and cynical attempt to cull the
poor, economically inactive and elderly section of the US population. It
will be interesting to see how such a laissez faire approach pans out.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

That's an appalling (not to mention irrational) conspiracy theory.

We've heard rumor after rumor after myth about how President Trump
'refused' WHO tests (never happened), 'censored' CDC officials
(didn't), disassembled our bioresponse capability (didn't).

It's all nonsense.

President Trump has been doing a awful lot to address this unknown
quantity in a rational, effective manner during a time when his
detractors have been spreading the virus, then complaining (even
as they cry for help.

Meanwhile NYC was busy thwarting the president's effort to stem the
influx, still having China-centered festivals and a parade nine days
after President Trump cut off travel from China, with NYC's Health
Commissioner urging New Yorkers not to let 'misinformation' about the
risk of spreading COVID dissuade them from joining the virus-sharing
party that has now spread its seed across the United States.

I don't see how that adds up to "President Trump intentionally
targeting seniors."

Cheers,
James Arthur


My suburban Asian-immigrant neighbors tend to be extremely sanitary and
cautious and wear masks when ill even in other times and are staying
home and have been for a while now.

Unlike a number of my white suburban neighbors who tend to be truly
pig-ignorant stupos in the face of any sort of real crisis. They're none
too bright at the best of times and they'd still be running around out
there LA LA LA LA until someone had the good sense to shut down the
Starbucks.

For Pete's sake, cleanliness and race have nothing to do with it.

Big gatherings mixing newbies with people who have likely come from
a plague area is a bad idea.

NYC overflowing with infections isn't proof enough for you that their
experiment mixing infected and non-infected people was insane? It
sure ought to be.

Cheers,
James Arthur

What a glomper. Spouts Trumper discount-Reaganomics all day and can't
even remember where its living room is. Think, boy!

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

<https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/>

 

[bitrex]

On 3/27/2020 12:33 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

For Pete's sake, cleanliness and race have nothing to do with it.

Big gatherings mixing newbies with people who have likely come from
a plague area is a bad idea.

There is zero evidence "Chinese festivals" or Chinese travelers had a
thing to do with it. Looks like the first cases were Americans traveling
around the world as wealthy Americans tend to do.

NYC overflowing with infections isn't proof enough for you that their
experiment mixing infected and non-infected people was insane? It
sure ought to be.

Cheers,
James Arthur


"their experiment"? What should they have done circa late February when
the first case was detected? How were they to determine who was infected
or not test the whole city? There were no kits available and still aren't.

Should they have locked down the whole city immediately? NYC is the
center of the US financial sector that would have smashed the stock
market thru the floor while Trump was still running his "Everything is
fine"-game, before his cronies and business associates had finished
dumping their shares.

Now you're just being tedious. Canceling a parade wouldn't
crash the stock market. But not canceling it sure did.

?????????

You sure got a fixation on this Chinese parade, bro.

There's a virus. It comes from China. There was a widespread
awareness, to the point that New York City's Health Commissioner
had to urge people to attend the parade *despite* their concerns
of contracting about the Wuhan flu.

Was that wise? Did that make sense?

About as wise-or-unwise as many other decisions made in many other large
cities the past month or so across this fine homeland of ours regarding
events of all types.

How it's relevant exactly to the big picture escapes me. Maybe a Chinese
parade killed a family member and you've got a grudge.

At least half of the Boston-area cases are related to a bunch of
respectable US citizen high-IQ idiots with molecular biology PhDs and
MBAs at Biogen of all places who went forward with a major conference
here with everyone's blessing, apparently, after a number of attendees
had just returned from areas of Europe with the virus. They'll probably
ask for a bail-out.

I just compiled the worldometers.org numbers according to
infection rates by state...
1. New York - 2,004 ppm
2. New Jersey - 774 ppm
3. Louisiana - 496 ppm
4. Washington - 412 ppm
5. D.C. - 328 ppm

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month..

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.

--

Rick C.

+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[David Brown]

On 27/03/2020 06:38, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

What is the basis for assuming that people who have had Corona are
immune to new infections? It is reasonably likely that recovering from
it will provide immunity for a while, but no one has any idea for how
long, or how it will help against the mutations and variants of Corona
that will inevitably turn up.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.

It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 8:13:12 PM UTC+11, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc.. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.

It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

Why would you think that? It's not going to be all that helpful in the next week or so, but as people recover and move back into the community it's going to become a lot more useful.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 8:20:34 PM UTC+11, David Brown wrote:

On 27/03/2020 06:38, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

What is the basis for assuming that people who have had Corona are
immune to new infections? It is reasonably likely that recovering from
it will provide immunity for a while, but no one has any idea for how
long, or how it will help against the mutations and variants of Corona
that will inevitably turn up.

The antibodies recognise proteins, and they keep on dong that for many years.

RNA viruses mutate pretty rapidly. The "spike" protein that gets them into the cells they infect has to be pretty stable, but there's no guarantee the antibodies latch onto that.

Some of the proposed new vaccines expose the immune system to the "spike" protein on it's own. and should immunise against a whole raft of corona viruses, but nature isn't that clever.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 5:13:12 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc.. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.


It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

I have no idea why you would say that. Did you notice I said, "It might be a useful test at some point". Why would I want a useful test to not be3 approved? Besides, what any of us "want" is not relevant.

--

Rick C.

+-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.


It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

Exactly. The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population. They are
afraid that this panic might be almost over. Afraid of not being
afraid.

Of all the many possible trajectories of this infection, from hyped
cold to 1918++, they are rootin' for the worst ones. They enjoy this.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 27/03/20 14:53, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population.

That's a silly accusation that does you no credit.

They note that such tests aren't available yet, but that
they will be very valuable when they are available.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 5:13:12 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.


It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

I have no idea why you would say that. Did you notice I said, "It might be a useful test at some point". Why would I want a useful test to not be3 approved? Besides, what any of us "want" is not relevant.

It would give you one less thing to whine about.

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:38:56 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 14:53, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population.

That's a silly accusation that does you no credit.

They note that such tests aren't available yet, but that
they will be very valuable when they are available.

See post below.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[whit3rd]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 7:53:15 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population.

Don't be silly. There's no test, and developing one isn't going to stop
the disease. It's not a gang response, it's a thoughtful one.

My objection to the 'do a thousand tests' scenario was that the numbers won't
be statistically significant. DO THE MATH. It's not a 'downer', or a 'gang',
it's logic that's discourages the project.

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:06:47 +0000, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 16:33, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:38:56 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 14:53, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population.

That's a silly accusation that does you no credit.

They note that such tests aren't available yet, but that
they will be very valuable when they are available.

See post below.

Below what?

If you mean a post from Whit3rd, again it isn't he
doesn't want a test, it is that he wants a statistically
useful testing regime.

That seems sensible to me. A meaningless test is worse
than no test, since it encourages spurious actions.

Don't you think that a thousand or so antibody tests on random US
citizens would be statistically suggestive of the overall
had-the-infection rate? To tell us if it's 2% or 50%? 10,000 tests?
100K? Rather not know?

Test 1000 a week and the data keeps getting better.

The current PCR test only flags live viruses, and it is heavily
targeted at very sick people with symptoms suggestive of C19. Testing
is ramping up. We have no idea of the denominator of the death rate
from this virus. No good idea of the numerator, actually.

The 2009 flu pandemic infected about a billion people and killed a few
hundred thousand, but didn't get the press or the noisy analysis of
C19.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:h8ds7fpsna5b6tf47nomjn76hcm648ammp@4ax.com:

His real fear is that we'll go back to discussing electronics.

I posted a link to a guy who knows how to move electrons around in
very precise, beautiful ways. Just the other day.

But you miss the real posts.

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 5:13:12 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 3:19:27 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:38:40 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

A test to see if you've had the virus:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-test-announced-could-determine-if-people-were-already-infected-with-coronavirus-and-are-now-immune/

They don't say anything about when the test might be available in any quantity. Do you think they will get this approved and in sufficient production for help with the overloaded hospitals in NY or California or Washington?

It might be a useful test at some point, but we won't be seeing this in adequate numbers until the end of April I bet.

In the meantime we have no reason to believe there are numbers of infected and recovered in the US that would make much difference in anything. To get people back to work will require many millions of these tests.

Larkin is pumped up about this test because he wants to confirm is theory that half the country already has had the disease. That's not possible for many different reasons which he wants to ignore.


It's obvious that you don't want it to be approved.

I have no idea why you would say that. Did you notice I said, "It might be a useful test at some point". Why would I want a useful test to not be3 approved? Besides, what any of us "want" is not relevant.


It would give you one less thing to whine about.

His real fear is that we'll go back to discussing electronics.



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