New test for Coronavirus

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:57:51 PM UTC+11, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:09:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

The US constitution is a venerable antique. It should have been revoked - and replaced with something better - quite a while ago. The one you've got was a second try anyway. It replaced the original articles of association, which were even worse.

But in the same time period, France reorganized using the Terror, followed by imperial Napoleonic militarism. The paper-pushing was ultimately a more satisfying way to proceed.
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Revolutions do tend to develop into dictatorships. The French fought their revolutionary war while they were working on their constitution, and the victory at Valmy in 1792 emboldened the more extremist factions, who executed Louis XVI in January 1793,and got more rabid as Napoleon chalked up the victories that eventually let him stage his coup.

The American paper-pushing was a moderate enlightenment exercise. Every constitution since then has been based on radical enlightenment ideas, which meant they got the fundamentals right, which does help.

And of course they've been able to look at the bits the US got wrong, and do them better. My secondary school lessons on what the Australian constitution was designed to do had quite a bit on why it was different from the American one.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/
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On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month..

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL
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What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

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On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

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Rick C.

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Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc.. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."
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They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Michael Terrell wrote...
The FDA issued emergency authorization ...
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What we need is an antibody test, when are immune?


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Thanks,
- Win
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."

They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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I thought you kill filed me - oh well...

No, this data is corroborated by other data that I have previously listed (go check it out). The latest is that the crematoriums are running around the clock in Wuhan:

https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html

What's you explanation for that, the Chicomm are cooking bats for dinner?
 
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 2:57:51 AM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:09:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

The US constitution is a venerable antique. It should have been revoked - and replaced with something better - quite a while ago. The one you've got was a second try anyway. It replaced the original articles of association, which were even worse.

But in the same time period, France reorganized using the Terror, followed by imperial
Napoleonic militarism. The paper-pushing was ultimately a more satisfying way to
proceed.
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Not just France. As one simple example,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_d'%C3%A9tat_and_coup_attempts_by_country#Spain

The European country that has *not* collapsed several times in the
past 200 years into dictatorship and anarchy is the exception, not
the rule.

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 2:50:23 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."

They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

I thought you kill filed me - oh well...

No, this data is corroborated by other data that I have previously listed (go check it out). The latest is that the crematoriums are running around the clock in Wuhan:

https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html

What's you explanation for that, the Chicomm are cooking bats for dinner?
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Who is "the source" exactly? What does it mean that "crematoriums working nonstop"? How much did they work before the pandemic? The article even says, "During the epidemic, they transferred cremation workers from around China to Wuhan keep cremate bodies around the clock,”... """DURING THE PANDEMIC"""

Actually it makes sense that the bodies were backed up when such large numbers were dying at once. It takes some time to get through the backlog. Just as our facilities will have to do. Ask NY funeral homes if they are keeping up with demand?

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Rick C.

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On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 3:11:09 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Michael Terrell wrote...

The FDA issued emergency authorization ...

What we need is an antibody test, when are immune?
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Why do we need that now? The reported number of recovered is still single digit thousands. Why is it so important to know exactly who is immune now? Why will it matter if people ignore the calls to stay at home and isolate?

The antibody test is coming out now. More important is other testing to see who is infected even if it is a bit late in the highly infected areas. Most of the country has not been hit hard yet and full testing will keep that under control.

Everything in it's place. First steps first.

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On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 5:50:23 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."

They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

I thought you kill filed me - oh well...
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No. I find you an easy target to jeer at.

No, this data is corroborated by other data that I have previously listed (go check it out). The latest is that the crematoriums are running around the clock in Wuhan:

https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html

What's you explanation for that, the Chicomm are cooking bats for dinner?
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Not exactly. It more that half-witted conspiracy theory peddlers will latch onto any kinds of vague indication ad claim it as "confirmation" of whatever silly idea they are peddling at the time.

"Corroboration" is a rather stronger term than the "evidence" you think you have justifies. Urns presumably get bought in large batches. If you had evidence that this was an unusually large batch of urns, you might be getting somewhere, but that would require more insight than you could possibly muster.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 3:55:45 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 3:11:09 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Michael Terrell wrote...

The FDA issued emergency authorization ...

What we need is an antibody test, when are immune?

Why do we need that now? The reported number of recovered is still single digit thousands. Why is it so important to know exactly who is immune now? Why will it matter if people ignore the calls to stay at home and isolate?
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Someone I know had mild symptoms a month ago. Now he thinks he is immune. and goes out shopping. _A test would either confirm he is immune or show him that he can easily be infected.

More knowledge is good.

Dan
The antibody test is coming out now. More important is other testing to see who is infected even if it is a bit late in the highly infected areas. Most of the country has not been hit hard yet and full testing will keep that under control.

Everything in it's place. First steps first.

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Rick C.

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On 2020-03-29, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:59:36 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/03/20 18:26, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 18:00:31 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 17:34, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:06:47 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 16:33, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 15:38:56 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 27/03/20 14:53, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
The usual gang of downers obviously don't want an antibody
test to be available or used on the general population.

That's a silly accusation that does you no credit.

They note that such tests aren't available yet, but that
they will be very valuable when they are available.

See post below.

Below what?

If you mean a post from Whit3rd, again it isn't he
doesn't want a test, it is that he wants a statistically
useful testing regime.

That seems sensible to me. A meaningless test is worse
than no test, since it encourages spurious actions.

Don't you think that a thousand or so antibody tests

AFAIK there is no such reliable test at the moment,
so the question is moot.


on random US
citizens would be statistically suggestive of the overall
had-the-infection rate? To tell us if it's 2% or 50%? 10,000 tests?
100K? Rather not know?

Random sampling works well *provided* there is a uniform
distribution; the variance and confidence interval can
be calculated.

Initially infection outbreaks will be very patchy,
not uniform. Hence it will be difficult if not impossible
to assess the confidence interval. In that case
the numbers will be no more use than random number - and
will probably /be/ random numbers of the form 8 +-15 :)


Test 1000 a week and the data keeps getting better.

More is better, but there is a threshold before
more becomes useful.


The current PCR test only flags live viruses, and it is heavily
targeted at very sick people with symptoms suggestive of C19. Testing
is ramping up. We have no idea of the denominator of the death rate
from this virus. No good idea of the numerator, actually.

That's true in the US and (to a lesser extent) in the UK.

However, all official statistics and prognostications
explicitly acknowledge that, and factor it into the
/range/ of predictions made.


The 2009 flu pandemic infected about a billion people and killed a few
hundred thousand, but didn't get the press or the noisy analysis of
C19.

This is going to be worse.

Possibly. The Hopkins world case count is 580K so far, which is
(computes furiously) 0.06% of a billion.

Look at the trajectory and timescales, not the absolute.

Surely you remember playing with analogue meters; you
could get a quick feel for the final value by seeing
how fast the meter's needle accelerated to the right.
That was especially true with ballistic galvanometers
when measuring charge.


Already the US, with <25% of
the population, has more cases than China.

As if! Do you believe that China is actually averaging about 50 cases
a day now?

It is as believable as anything Trump says.
A good test will be to see what happens when they
relax restrictions. Already they've undone the
re-opening of their cinemas - which suggests a
degree of cockup in their response.

No, China has been lying since the day they locked up the doctor who first reported the crisis. Actions speak louder than words when they:

1. Kept the CDC out of country.

What would the US Centre for Disease Control be doing in China? The Chinese are cooperating with WHO which is the international equivalent, and have been since about mid-Januay
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Dunno what exactly, but there was a US CDC employee working with the
Chinese until mid 2019. this from Reuters:

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/

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Jasen.
 
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 2:34:51 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 11:26:24 PM UTC-7, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-4, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-03-29, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

What would the US Centre for Disease Control be doing in China? The Chinese are cooperating with WHO which is the international equivalent, and have been since about mid-Januay

Dunno what exactly, but there was a US CDC employee working with the
Chinese until mid 2019. this from Reuters:

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/


There is no 'US Centre for Disease Control'. There IS a 'US Center for Disease Control', however.
Jasen.

Actually it is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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Sloman is too stupid to deal with what I posted, let alone the full name.
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 11:26:24 PM UTC-7, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-4, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-03-29, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

What would the US Centre for Disease Control be doing in China? The Chinese are cooperating with WHO which is the international equivalent, and have been since about mid-Januay

Dunno what exactly, but there was a US CDC employee working with the
Chinese until mid 2019. this from Reuters:

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/


There is no 'US Centre for Disease Control'. There IS a 'US Center for Disease Control', however.
Jasen.
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Actually it is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
 
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 7:44:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 5:50:23 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."

They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

I thought you kill filed me - oh well...

No. I find you an easy target to jeer at.

No, this data is corroborated by other data that I have previously listed (go check it out). The latest is that the crematoriums are running around the clock in Wuhan:

https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html

What's you explanation for that, the Chicomm are cooking bats for dinner?

Not exactly. It more that half-witted conspiracy theory peddlers will latch onto any kinds of vague indication ad claim it as "confirmation" of whatever silly idea they are peddling at the time.

"Corroboration" is a rather stronger term than the "evidence" you think you have justifies. Urns presumably get bought in large batches. If you had evidence that this was an unusually large batch of urns, you might be getting somewhere, but that would require more insight than you could possibly muster.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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The Chicomm's own scientists (until they were silenced) concluded that the COVID-19 came from one of the two government labs in Wuhan - are they crackpots, too?
 
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:32:46 AM UTC-4, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-03-29, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

What would the US Centre for Disease Control be doing in China? The Chinese are cooperating with WHO which is the international equivalent, and have been since about mid-Januay

Dunno what exactly, but there was a US CDC employee working with the
Chinese until mid 2019. this from Reuters:

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/exclusive-u-s-axed-cdc/
Click to expand...

There is no 'US Centre for Disease Control'. There IS a 'US Center for Disease Control', however.
> Jasen.
 
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 5:31:40 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 7:44:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 5:50:23 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:07:47 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:51:32 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued emergency authorization Saturday for a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) test kit made by Cepheid Inc. that can yield results in a matter of hours instead of days.

The new tool is called the “Cepheid Xpert Xpress SARS-CoV-2 test” and will be made available to the public by the end of the month.

https://conservativefighters.org/news/new-coronavirus-test-can-have-results-within-hours-see-how-it-works/

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/30/urns-in-wuhan-raise-doubt-about-deaths-in-china-locals-claim-it-was-close-to-42k-people-not-3299-903121?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

What exactly on this site do you consider to be factual? Even if a funeral home did order a bunch of urns, does that mean they have that many dead? You do realize an urn is something you tend to order in advance, right? How many did they order the last time they needed them? Were they ordering for just one funeral home or a chain?

In other words, why do you think this means anything significant? Why do you not question anything you read except for things you don't want to believe?

Do you realize that funeral homes are in the business of disposing of person's remains, and they need urns for that? Obviously not. Google "forensic detective."

They can use coffins too, and the urn is optional. My parent's ashes ended up scattered over the the crematorium's rose garden, and presumably the urn they used for that would have been recycled.

Flyguy finds it hard to understand that his half-witted ideas about would could be going aren't the only possible interpretation. They suit what he wants to believe so no other interpretation could possibly be right.

I thought you kill filed me - oh well...

No. I find you an easy target to jeer at.

No, this data is corroborated by other data that I have previously listed (go check it out). The latest is that the crematoriums are running around the clock in Wuhan:

https://news.yahoo.com/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html

What's you explanation for that, the Chicomm are cooking bats for dinner?

Not exactly. It more that half-witted conspiracy theory peddlers will latch onto any kinds of vague indication ad claim it as "confirmation" of whatever silly idea they are peddling at the time.

"Corroboration" is a rather stronger term than the "evidence" you think you have justifies. Urns presumably get bought in large batches. If you had evidence that this was an unusually large batch of urns, you might be getting somewhere, but that would require more insight than you could possibly muster.

The Chicomm's own scientists (until they were silenced) concluded that the COVID-19 came from one of the two government labs in Wuhan - are they crackpots, too?
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Which of your lunatic conspiracy theory websites came up with that one?

You are a crackpot who takes other crackpots seriously.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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