Getting electrocuted in bathtub

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

As, so far, you've failed quite
nicely. You are amusing though, if it helps. A poster child for a
future darwin award winner.

I gotta listen to this stupid shit from an indiana hoosier farm boy
retard with an engine fuel as his chosen name?

I was in a lab and we did arc experiments up to 50kV, and you are
pretty much full of shit.

You should re-read your first post, because since you have tried
moving the goal posts, I doubt you even still have a handle on what
your original flawed argument was.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqa0ef$csq$3@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:45:52 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

.And as far as I know, is still taught when the
class gets beyond beginner level.

No, child. Past the beginner level, we talk about C-W
multipliers.

So you explain how you knew nothing about the Villard doubler circuit,
how exactly?



--
Windows: XT emulator for an AT.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqa06u$csq$1@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:41:50 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAAAA65DHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:


Your insults aside, I told you, more than just voltage is
involved,

No, fuckhead. No goal post moving. *I* *TOLD* *YOU* what
happens,
and YOU have been trying to get out of the corner you painted
yourself into ever since.

No, you don't get to try for a pooh routine here. I'm not the one
who's been playing games and acting like a billy badass behind a
keyboard.

first post where I commented about your claim

Message-ID: <XnsAB021D5997E22HT1@t77x7AkL7.Fb1FosET2wF3v4w9z7iKzgi4G03HI9mL2ahBdF99av>

The moral, it's not just the voltage, it's the amperage too that
decides how much distance the arc can travel at such and such voltage
level.

Follow up to my own post, right after sending that one:
Message-ID: <XnsAB0221B6FC6A3HT1@t77x7AkL7.Fb1FosET2wF3v4w9z7iKzgi4G03HI9mL2ahBdF99av>

And of course, I'd forget to mention another variable. frequency. The
lower the frequency, the longer the arc at xxx voltage. The higher
the frequency, the shorter the arc at xxx voltage. You have to factor
in ac or dc, voltage, current and frequency in order to determine how
far it can jump an open air gap. Moisture is also another variable
you have to consider if you're working around HV that has real
current behind it - as that kind of HV arc over if you're in the way
is much much more likely to kill you.

Along how much power the resulting arc is going to have. What's known
as a 'hot spark' or 'hot arc' has some meat behind it, it's not
something you want to come into contact with. Nasty shock or much
much worse if you do. You can have a weak spark jump over an inch
same as you can a hot one. A hot one though can pass through things
you get in it's way; plastic, etc. And you won't interrupt it with a
shot of compressed air. A weak one you can, with ease.

The arc I mentioned in all three examples above generate hot arcs
ranging from a nasty shock (much worse than some BS 'taser') to
closed casket funeral. All three are capable of starting fires with
ease; which is why the video description clearly mentions not to try
to use the circuit as is to make an electric fence. None of the three
above examples are being fed by or generate anywhere near the 75kv
you claimed was necessary. Two of the three aren't even getting 300
volts; but they are certainly putting out a hell of a lot more than
that; just not 75kv worth. And I'm not even factoring in high
humidity/moisture as an added bonus to make it easier for the arc.

Oh, and incidently, one generates atleast a kilovolt under the 3kv
you claimed was necessary to jump a mm. That would be the microwave
oven transformer. It typically generates no more than 2 to 2.5kv. It
uses a voltage doubler to generate the 5kv dc necessary to run the
magnetron; but the transformer itself isn't making 5kv. [g]

So anyways, your statement is flatout wrong. Sorry.

Your first fucking reply:

Message-ID: <qq6dkf$1qhh$1@gioia.aioe.org>

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB0221B6FC6A3HT1
@t77x7AkL7.Fb1FosET2wF3v4w9z7iKzgi4G03HI9mL2ahBdF99av:

Oh, and incidently, one generates atleast a kilovolt under the 3kv
you claimed was necessary to jump a mm.

You are a goddamned retard. The number I gave is the accepted
number from the scientific community.

I'll go with that over your layman ramblings any day.

*** end of reply

You said nothing about amperage, current, frequency, ac or dc (yes,
that makes a fucking difference too!) all you claimed was that the
number you gave is the accepted number from blah blah blah. Total,
fucking bullshit.

You went onto claim that I was wrong about the 5kv dc output the
typical output of a MOT as well as the circuit tied into the MOT
(the voltage doubler) that you incorrectly claimed was nothing more
than a half wave rectifier, to feed the magnetron the DC it
requires. The magnetron won't generate the radio waves that cook
your fucking food if you feed it 2kv, you're nowhere near the
voltage level you need to be; hence the doubler circuit. That you,
again, didn't know anything about.

A circuit that's well known that's still in use today in one way
shape or form. HV supplies are supposedly your thing, but you didn't
know about the Villard Doubler? How is that even fucking remotely
possible?

One of us is a bit of a bullshit usenet artist, no doubt. I'll leave
it upto the readers to decide.

You were already told this when I spoke of numerous youtube
videos
showing the opinging of HV breaker swithches at sub stations.

ROFL. right out of poohs playbook. Nice try.

I ALREADY KNOW that an arc is a short. Did not need you accusing
me of being dangerous or the other stupid petty mumbling you have
been making since I told you that you got it wrong.

Dude, a half wave rectifier is not a voltage doubler and an expert
as you're trying to pass yourself off as should never, ever fucking
get the two confused. Especially when one is being used not only to
boost HV, but to convert it in the process (AC to DC) to an even
higher HV level. Your confusion of the HV side of a typical home
user microwave oven was off by over 2kv! That's one of those stupid
mistakes as in dead fucker, nice knowing you, Darwin award winner.
Ie: you. Cocky, proud, waiting for your award. Just a matter of time
before you'll get what you have coming to you. I'd like to be around
to see it.

I stated that VOLTAGE is what is required to bridge a gap. THAT
is a FACT.

Oh, you were more specific than that. You stated that 77kv was
needed, multiple times. You even provided a reference that you
thought supported your claim. You also claimed, based on that
reference? that it takes 3kv for each mm.

You are incorrect on both counts.

YOU refuted that. THAT is a FACT. You do NOT now get to move
the goal post and describe what I have been telling YOU about all
along.

I certainly did refute it, included copies of what I wrote in this
reply. You seem more than a bit confused on who told who to what,
and when. Aren't MIDs nice things? They help to clear up confusion
like this, so nicely.

I'm not trying to move a single thing. I questioned your claim of
needing 77kv to jump a one inch open air gap. I provided irrefutable
evidence of various types of HV sources arcing over an inch, but
using far far less voltage than what you claimed, again, multiple
times, 'basic physics' was necessary.

I even went into greater detail (that's included in this reply, too;
above [g]) and you dismissed all of it. Now you're trying to
backpeddle and claim YOU (not me) stated the other factors involved.
I originally stated them, not you.

> And you accused me of dancing. Nice try, boy.

I did, rightfully so. You were writing shit on more than one
occasion. A microwave oven isn't using a half wave rectifier, and
you don't need 77kv to jump a one inch open air gap. You're still
writing shit now, trying to rewrite who said what to who and when.
It's not going to work, 'boy'


--
If you lose your keys, attempt to drown yourself in a basin of
water. Your life will flash before your eyes. Eventually you'll
remember the part where you last had your keys.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qq9vb7$8p2$1@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:27:03 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAAAA65DHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

Evidently, based on the fact you started by claiming 77kv was
necessary to jump an inch of open air, and dismissed it entirely
as voltage related; nothing to do with amperage, frequency,
ac/dc,
etc.


You obviously really know nothing about how an arc bridges an
air gap.

Yes, I do.

> ain't got your head wrapped around the physics right.

Oh, the basic physics you mentioned?

> If you remain hard headed about it, you never will.

I'm not the one who ignorantly claimed 77kv was needed for a one inch
open air jump and has been having to backtrack ever since...




--
Take the skin and peel it back... now doesn't it make you feel better?

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qq9v38$7hq$1@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:22:48 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAAAA65DHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

Not only do you try desperately to be insulting, you also like to
dance around the topic when called out.


Me calling you on you talking about how much you think someone
does or does not know is not dancing, you stupid putz. You have to
get your assertions right first, and they are not. In fact,
motherfucker, it is YOU whom is dangerous.

My, er, assertions are fine. I've consistently stated that 77kv is
NOT required to jump a one inch open air gap, as you incorrectly
claimed, multiple times, it was. You dug your hole even deeper than
that, by adding that you needed 3kv for each mm (you don't)

Going so far as to cite a 'reference' that you somehow thought proved
your claim to be correct? Basic physics I believe you stated it
was...

Message-ID: <qpvn2d$15gc$1@gioia.aioe.org>

Basic physics.

It takes a 77kV voltage source to bridge a 1 inch gap with 3kV per
mm at sea level as the reference standard.

*** end paste

Your math is flawed. As is your basic understanding of electronics,
based on the fact you mistook a Villard voltage doubler circuit for
that of a half wave rectifier circuit. I really don't know how
someone with the knowledge and experience you've claimed to have on
multiple occasions now could be so far off the mark, multiple times
now.




--
Age and treachery can always overcome youth and skill.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org news:qqa0g0$csq$4
@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:46:40 GMT in alt.home.repair,
wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

Did you drop out after the first
few months or something?

How many HV power supplies have you designed?

Enough to know a Villard doubler circuit when I see one.

> Like I said... wire boy.

I'm hurt, no really. Future Darwin award winner.




--
Too bad stupidity isn't painful.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqa0r5$g2q$1@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:52:37 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

As, so far, you've failed quite
nicely. You are amusing though, if it helps. A poster child for a
future darwin award winner.

I gotta listen to this stupid shit from an indiana hoosier farm
boy
retard with an engine fuel as his chosen name?

I've never set foot in indiana, wasn't raised on a farm either. Oh,
the farm comment.. did you figure out what I meant by not letting you
wire a light fixture for a dog house now?

In case you still don't have a clue...

LEDs aren't so good with providing a bit of heat to keep things above
freezing, but a 60watt incandescent does a good job of that. You make
sure the fixture has a break proof 'enclosure' and it'll keep the
doghouse a suitable temp for the outside critter in the wintertime in
the climates that aren't forgiving.

So no, I wouldn't provide DC power to run an LED in the dog house. It
wouldn't do the dog any good.

I was in a lab and we did arc experiments up to 50kV, and you
are pretty much full of shit.

Must have been a tiny ass arc, eh? going by your claim that 77kv is
needed to jump an inch of open air. /sarcasm.

--
And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

I certainly did refute it, included copies of what I wrote in this
reply.

Yet you have posted exacty ZERO links describing the voltage
required to bridge a 1mm gap. Your reply bitches about microwave
ovens.

STAY ON TOPIC, LITTLE BOY.

Physics. Amps do not breach air gaps. Voltage does.

AFTER an arc is initiated, THEN current flows.

You fucking child.

I DID post a link to a cite about a man (a true scientist, unlike
yourself) who published facts about it. facts you refuse to examine,
much less understand or believe.

You fucking child. Are you related to Donald J. Trump? He thinks
that wind turbines kill birds. He too is a fucking adult aged child.

You dumbfucks achieve adult age physically, yet are several decades
behind in mental maturity.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

You said nothing about amperage, current, frequency, ac or dc (yes,
that makes a fucking difference too!) all you claimed was that the
number you gave is the accepted number from blah blah blah. Total,
fucking bullshit.

You really do not know how scientific laboratories and reference
figures get generated.

You are a real, true idiot, wire boy.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8
tZfIBcnITL5:

The moral, it's not just the voltage, it's the amperage too that
decides how much distance the arc can travel at such and such
voltage level.

YOU ARE INCORRECT, AND YOU LOSE!

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7CE465AHT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8
tZfIBcnITL5:

I'm not the one who ignorantly claimed 77kv was needed for a one
inch open air jump and has been having to backtrack ever since...

Show me where I "tried to backtrack ever since" you fucking lying
putz.

You are an idiot, diesel boy. Somebody should light you up, except
you'd stink up the place... even more than you already do.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7C573DHT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

My, er, assertions are fine. I've consistently stated that 77kv is
NOT required to jump a one inch open air gap, as you incorrectly
claimed, multiple times, it was.

You blab on about bullshit.

The argument was what initiates an arc. I said it was voltage and
ONLY voltage and you said something about amperage, and I called you
on it.

EVER SINCE, you have been accusing me of being wrong about the
dielectric strength of air, and you have been blathering on about
your pole pig video. Then you called me dangerous.

Dumbfucks like you should be erased. You can't even keep track of
your own flawed argument.

Paschen's law has been around for a long time, child. Much longer
than you. It gets published in college reference manuals.

But I guess you never visited that link just after you asked me to
prove my claim.

The way you spoke about lightining is why I thought of and think of
you as a layman, and all the training videos in the world is not
going to instruct *YOU* of what is happenning until *YOU* decide to
learn the true physics. You can bitch on about what you know and
what you have done and what videos you watched, but that in no way
shape or form can heal your brain if you adopted the wrong thinking
about the process of conductoion to start with.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7EE8692HT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8
tZfIBcnITL5:

LEDs aren't so good with providing a bit of heat to keep things
above freezing, but a 60watt incandescent does a good job of that.

No, they do not, you fucking idiot. Even an Easy Bake Oven uses
more.

You dog should find a racoon to get rabies from, and then bite you
after a cold winter night where you thought a 60W light bulb was gonna
keep him warm.

You are an idiot. You even sully the moniker you chose. Diesel fuel
has orders of magnitude higher integrity than you do.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7EE8692HT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8
tZfIBcnITL5:

So no, I wouldn't provide DC power to run an LED in the dog house.
It wouldn't do the dog any good.

I never said anything about a DC power run, you fucking idiot.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7E6CD1EHT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org news:qqa0g0$csq$4
@gioia.aioe.org Sun, 10 Nov 2019 21:46:40 GMT in alt.home.repair,
wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1
@SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

Did you drop out after the first
few months or something?

How many HV power supplies have you designed?

Enough to know a Villard doubler circuit when I see one.

Obviously not since they are not used in the industry.

So that makes you a liar, Trumpanzee retard boy.

Like I said... wire boy.

I'm hurt, no really. Future Darwin award winner.

You are just as stupid as the dopes that write "lol" and call
people "douche". You one of those sports bar retards?

I am as smart as a tardigrade. They have ben around for over 400
million years. Pretty damned smart.

You fall in more at the slug level, or paramecium.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7DDF95CHT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8
tZfIBcnITL5:

So you explain how you knew nothing about the Villard doubler
circuit, how exactly?

It is a vague, barely discussed circuit that does not deliver power
well. That is why C-W is all that the HV realm uses. It DOES
deliver power.

Since the microwave cavity does not need the full wave recitfied
version, the stagger stepped villard circuit is used.

And just so you know, it is not a true doubler. Another reason it
never gets incorporated.

In a microwave, it gets used because it requires less parts than a
full wave multiplier circuit. That is cheaper when we are talking
about million piece production numbers. Sorry... you lose...
again.

You are a fucking joke.

 

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

I provided irrefutable
evidence of various types of HV sources arcing over an inch, but
using far far less voltage than what you claimed, again, multiple
times, 'basic physics' was necessary.

Again, IDIOT. ONCE an arc has been initiated, the nodes it is
between can be moved apart a great deal before the arc stops.

You are beyond childish thinking that initiation can occur at those
distances.

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqaeo2$da6$1@gioia.aioe.org Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:49:55 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in
news:XnsAB03CB7DDF95CHT1@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5
k8 tZfIBcnITL5:

So you explain how you knew nothing about the Villard doubler
circuit, how exactly?



It is a vague, barely discussed circuit that does not deliver
power
well.

Heh, I did say it was a crude circuit...It works well enough for the
intended purpose. I'm sure many people who eat microwaved food would
agree. Er, that is, people who like microwaved food in the first
place. Personally, I'm not what you'd call a fan.

That is why C-W is all that the HV realm uses. It DOES
deliver power.

You must have a unique definition for HV realm. As the one i'm
familiar with uses flybacks, ignition coils, mots, pole pigs (if
you're fortunate enough to be able to legally obtain one that's still
operational), and C-Ws. Several ways in which to get HV for a variety
of uses. There's nothing wrong with using both for some situations,
either. CRT televisions did, Some POS tasers do as well. Just two
examples you should be familiar with, maybe the 2nd not first hand,
but you should? understand how they work.


> In a microwave,

[snip]

I'm glad you've taken the time to educate yourself some about how a
microwave works. Really, I am. But, you don't need to share what
you've just learned about them with me. I already know this stuff.
I'm not the one who confused the circuit for something else,
entirely. That was you and another poster.



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(((((This tagline in Stereo where available)))))

 

[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqaebe$bnj$1@gioia.aioe.org Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:43:11 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:


I certainly did refute it, included copies of what I wrote in
this reply.

Yet you have posted exacty ZERO links describing the voltage
required to bridge a 1mm gap.

Just links clearly showing that your claim of requiring 3kv for each
mm isn't accurate anymore so than your claim of it needing to be 77kv
to jump an inch. All three examples I shared (one of which is my own
design, thanks) are generating a significantly lower voltage AND
amperage, yet all of them are generating arcs well beyond what you
initially claimed is possible for the voltages and current they are
providing. In other words, your claims are horse shit, on a good day.

And if someone was stupid enough to be a source to ground and take
your claim seriously by getting an inch or so away from an HV source
lower than 77kv, they're going to be in for a nasty surprise, if they
survive the encounter. That claim about needing to be 77kv is
bullshit, and could get someone killed.

Oh, and incidently, that thing you called a kerosene ignitor in my
video isn't. It's a car ignition coil for a points style ignition
system. A kerosene heater will light easily enough with a 3volt
heating element brought up against a soaked wick and left there for a
short period of time.

An arc ignition system wouldn't be more reliable or be a cost savings
for the manufacturer; Liquid kerosene short of using an open flame is
a cunt for ignition. It's vapors are practically flame retardent..
rofl. Nothing like that of gasoline. If you went and tried the same
thing with liquid gasoline, you run a real risk of an actual
explosion. I suppose you can call that ignition too, though.

Arc ignition is better suited for fuels in a gas form, not liquids.
But, the arc needs to have enough power behind it that it can sustain
itself under duress and still be able to ignite the fuel supply.

Such as the gas fuel supply moving past the ignitor (think natural
gas electric ignition heaters, along with many commercial natural
gas/propane driven heating/cooking appliances) or, compression as
it's going to be exposed to in say, an internal combustion engine.
You can generate a weak arc that won't survive a shot of compressed
air - you won't be able to ignite much of anything with this kind of
arc on the first try, second, possibly never.

Ever used one of those natural gas heaters, or an outside propane
grill that has an ignitor button that you press each time you want a
spark that's supposed to ignite the pilot and get you started? Or how
about one that you press and hold and it rapid arcs until you see the
pilot light come on and then you release it? Those are both making
weak, or 'cold' arcs to do their thing.

You can generate a much stronger arc, such as the weakest of all
three videos I provided (mine) that most certainly will ignite fuel
vapor (or liquid, it doesn't care), under pressure (or not) on the
first fucking try. It'll also happily burn paper, knock holes right
thru plastic and vinyl, etc. I placed a piece of electrical tape
hanging between the arc points and ran the circuit for a few seconds.
It just went right on thru the tape, lots and lots of tiny holes. Did
the same with ductape and some roofing tape I played with, but I
didn't actually expect any different outcome.

It has no trouble setting a toothpick on fire if it's placed between
the arc points. And if you blast it with a shot of compressed air
while it's sustaining the arc, you will not interfere with the arc
enough to the point where it dies, breaks or has to otherwise re-
establish. Depending on the duty cycle and frequency, the shot of
compressed air won't even make it wiggle or jump. It's a hot one.

My circuit lets you 'play'. HV does interesting things with various
frequencies and duty cycles...As I wrote about previously.

> Your reply bitches about microwave ovens.

That was a good schooling for you, I admit. You said something about
laughing if I told you I was a microwave technician. What were you
planning to laugh about? Your own ignorance concerning how they work?

It's good to laugh at one self, on occasion.

Oh, here it is.. what you wrote concerning the microwave replying to
me:

Message-ID: <qq6dkf$1qhh$1@gioia.aioe.org>

That would be the microwave
oven transformer. It typically generates no more than 2 to 2.5kv.

The differ from maker to maker, and you are clueless about any
other than the one you toyed with. Unless you are a service tech,
and then I will start laughing all over again.

It uses a voltage doubler to generate the 5kv dc necessary to run
the magnetron; but the transformer itself isn't making 5kv. [g]

Wow. you know fuck all next to nothing about microwave ovens too.

*** end snippit

So, out of two comments you made concerning the microwave in rebuttle
to mine, you WERE WRONG ON BOTH. Muaha. Shit.

(a) they don't differ from manufacturer to manufacturer all that
much, rofl; uhh, no. It's pretty standard stuff.

(b) it is infact, as you learned, hahaha, using a voltage doubler.

Oh, and, heh, this goes without saying...

(c) I clearly do know wtf I'm writing about on the subject of
microwave ovens. I didn't confuse the circuit for being a half wave
rectifier. You and another poster did.

Based on your previous claims of advanced HV knowledge and
experience, you have no legitimate excuse for that fuckup on your
part. The only logical conclusion that can be reached is that you're
a bullshitter.

> STAY ON TOPIC, LITTLE BOY.

Caps lock issue? Curious though, what you think you're going to gain?
by continuing to try and talk down to me...Where the fuck is this
attitude of yours coming from? Pride, huge fucking ego.. what?

I bet you think you're top notch in the world of I.T as well. Am I
right? Don't let my handle fool you, you won't be schooling me
anytime soon in that subject either. Especially the darker arts. heh.

You fucking child. Are you related to Donald J. Trump? He
thinks that wind turbines kill birds. He too is a fucking adult
aged child.

Oh christ. You're one of those people. That explains things...Just
don't tell me you're a flat earther or that we've never been to the
moon. Otherwise, it'll be harder to overlook your electrical
ignorance, electronics ignorance, and inability to admit when you're
wrong.


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[Diesel]

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
news:qqaefs$bnj$2@gioia.aioe.org Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:45:32 GMT in
alt.home.repair, wrote:

Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1
@hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

I provided irrefutable
evidence of various types of HV sources arcing over an inch, but
using far far less voltage than what you claimed, again, multiple
times, 'basic physics' was necessary.


Again, IDIOT. ONCE an arc has been initiated, the nodes it is
between can be moved apart a great deal before the arc stops.

You are beyond childish thinking that initiation can occur at
those
distances.

Funny, the first video I provided you, that you didn't check out at
the time is showing an arc being initiated over an inch of open air;
nowhere near 77kv as you claimed. Initially spread far enough apart
to intentionally prevent it from sustaining a solid mostly purple
line of electricity (hehehe) at the frequency and duty cycles I used
in the video on a crippled power source to further limit the
resulting arc (easily four amps under what the coil would prefer) and
it's still initiating an arc over an inch long. A hot arc, at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcWrrlTRFdM

At about 2:12 into the video, I moved the arc points a little closer;
it's still over an inch. It's now sustaining the arc so I can show
you what changes to the frequency and some to the duty cycle do as a
result. See the whiskers forming and leaving? One arc becomes many
and nearly one again, all over frequency and duty cycle changes.

So, enough with your bullshit. The statement you wrote that I took
issue with is your claim of needing 77kv to jump an inch of open air.
Your statement is not true. It doesn't take that much voltage to do
it. EoD.


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