Gas shortage UK...

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On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:59:04 -0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

People who receive money from the government should not be allowed to vote. That amounts to bribery.

> b) fictitious

Indeed.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:20:23 -0000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:59 AM, Joe wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

b) fictitious


Or because they actually care about the people of this country, not just
the billionaires.

Republicans operate on the \"I got mine, screw you\" idealogy.

If you care for people, you\'re free to give to charity. But forcing everyone to give to charity is clearly wrong. I want to decide if and where my money goes.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:26:56 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:18 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:55:01 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

ROFL! Like this bus? https://youtu.be/T71cVhxG_v4

Do you disagree with the numbers?

Eh? That line was in response to your mention of fires.

However, they\'re much safer than petrol filled vehicles.

Apparently hybrids are the worst.

Hybrids are stupid. When the Prius came out, a decent diesel car used less fuel.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too,

We have that. Reversible hydro electric dams, huge batteries like in California.

and cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is banned.

What is NG?

It\'s mostly methane.

I know, but I didn\'t know what the acronym stood for. Far too many acronyms in use. Type any three letters into an acronym finder, and you;\'ll get about 30 possibilities.

In the UK we just say gas, since we don\'t have this problem renaming petrol.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:42:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 6 Nov 2022 18:59:08 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Neat! I don\'t mean the data, just the presentation. At a concert in a
very intimate venue I stood leaning on the sound guy\'s cabinet. There was
a fantastic digital presentation of a traditional mixer and the other
boards right down to shadowing on the toggle switches.

Skeuomorphism isn\'t dead.

Agreed in the strongest possible terms.

Although.... I do prefer a digital speedometer in the car for a quick reading when there\'s a pig ahead.

Yikes. The UK has to import food and energy and ICs and superhero
movies.

I wish it didn\'t. American is hard to understand, I often turn on the subtitles.
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 19:59:04 +0000, Joe, another demented, troll-feeding,
senile ASSHOLE, blathered:

> Because they are either:

You miserable senile shitheads just REFUSE to accept what\'s going in here,
eh, you troll-feeding senile asshole? LOL
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 14:46:25 -0500,
Ralph Mowery, another brain dead, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


That is in California. Where almost everything causes cancer. Now
natural gas does something bad. They have starting banning all gasoline
powered lawn equipment like mowers and weed eaters.

There are some campers that the refrigerator is cooled by propane.

WTF has all this shit got to do with the ngs you sick assholes keep
cross-posting it to, you sick troll-feeding senile shithead?
 
On 6 Nov 2022 20:11:58 GMT, Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

Yes. The greenie thing is a path to power through fear.
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 19:51:51 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein, another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


Broadly speaking, two ways:
Is there no bait set out by the troll idiotic enough that you troll-feeding
idiotic senile assholes will NOT take it?
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:06:23 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 6 Nov 2022 20:11:58 GMT, Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

Yes. The greenie thing is a path to power through fear.

Just like religion.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:26:56 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> Do you disagree with the numbers?

No, he doesn\'t! He just keeps trolling and laughing at all you senile
idiots, unable to believe that he REALLY knows how to bait you every single
time, even after you senile ASSHOLES learned already what he\'s all about!
<G>
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 12:32:50 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


Get a brain and stop feeding the troll, senile shithead!

Electronic design requires mental flexibility, which is associated
with humor and tolerance. It requires intelligence too.

Well, you are STILL a typical dumb senile troll-feeding ASSHOLE!
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:30:26 -0000, The Genetically Unmodified Paul Pot (Still a natural human being as God created) <paulpot@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 06/11/2022 20:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:59:04 -0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

People who receive money from the government should not be allowed to
vote. That amounts to bribery.

That\'s *you* not voting then.

Just because I collect something doesn\'t mean I think I should be able to.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:30:26 -0000, The Genetically Unmodified Paul Pot (Still a natural human being as God created) <paulpot@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 06/11/2022 20:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:59:04 -0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

People who receive money from the government should not be allowed to
vote. That amounts to bribery.

That\'s *you* not voting then.

You\'re not still a fucking believer are you? What made you go nuts?
 
On 11/6/22 07:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/jun/11/mike-pence/pence-claims-obama-said-energy-costs-will-skyrocke/

You\'d rather not have disclosures upfront? He sounds like someone I\'d be
comfortable buying a house from.
 
On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 12:53:52 PM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:

>...forcing everyone to give to charity is clearly wrong. I want to decide if and where my money goes.

By \'money\' do you refer to a medium of exchange issued by a national government?

You can die, or be a pauper, and have all that decision power, but
you cannot long evade taxation, nor dominate, with your limited voice and voting
power, what a nation does.

Anarchy also lets you \'decide if and where\', but not with money as we know the term.
 
On 11/6/2022 1:06 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On 6 Nov 2022 20:11:58 GMT, Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

Yes. The greenie thing is a path to power through fear.

LOL!

Spoken by someone in the party of fear. That\'s the only thing the GOP
offers. Policy, never.
 
On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 21:30:26 +0000, paulpot@nowhere.com wrote:


People who receive money from the government should not be allowed to
vote.  That amounts to bribery.

That\'s *you* not voting then.

EXACTLY! And it\'s no secret either. He repeatedly BRAGGED about having
gotten more money from the government than he ever paid in! ;-) He of course
IS clinically insane and unemployable.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:43:51 -0000, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 11/6/22 07:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/jun/11/mike-pence/pence-claims-obama-said-energy-costs-will-skyrocke/

You\'d rather not have disclosures upfront? He sounds like someone I\'d be
comfortable buying a house from.

Obama or Pence?
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:52:22 -0000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 1:06 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On 6 Nov 2022 20:11:58 GMT, Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

Yes. The greenie thing is a path to power through fear.


LOL!

Spoken by someone in the party of fear. That\'s the only thing the GOP
offers. Policy, never.

They offer more sense than the left wing thieves.
 
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 22:12:06 -0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

In <t18gmhd1pc7hfml7digabt54e6829d4cdg@4ax.com> hubops@ccanoemail.com writes:

[snip]

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

Broadly speaking, two ways:

a: using it to directly power a compressor the same
way it can run a car or generator

and

b: through that whole \"ammonia cycle\" deal which, while
I\'ve seen it in operation, makes my head hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator

Cabins & cottages in remote locations have used propane
burning fridges for decades.

My parents old apartment in NYC had a \"natural gas [a]\"
fired refrigerator which yes, had a small flame doing
that whole ammonia deal, back in the 1960\'s. I wish
I could have held onto it...

[a] well, it probably dated from the 1930\'s, so was
originally working on \"town\" or \"manufactured\" gas,
and hopefully retrofitted to natural gas in the
1950\'s when NYC switched over.

And if it hadn\'t been retrofitted?
 

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