Gas shortage UK...

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:55:01 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

ROFL! Like this bus? https://youtu.be/T71cVhxG_v4

However, they\'re much safer than petrol filled vehicles.

> Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too,

We have that. Reversible hydro electric dams, huge batteries like in California.

> and cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is banned.

What is NG?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:55:01 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

ROFL! Like this bus? https://youtu.be/T71cVhxG_v4

However, they\'re much safer than petrol filled vehicles.

> Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too,

We have that. Reversible hydro electric dams, huge batteries like in California.

> and cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is banned.

What is NG?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like
the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains as we
are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like
the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains as we
are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:32:43 -0000, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 1:28:26 PM UTC-6, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:55:01 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
C...@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho...@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.
ROFL! Like this bus? https://youtu.be/T71cVhxG_v4

However, they\'re much safer than petrol filled vehicles.
Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too,
We have that. Reversible hydro electric dams, huge batteries like in California.
and cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is banned.
What is NG?
Natural gas.

Ah, I also read it as \"(cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG) is banned.\" which would mean after NG, we are not allowed to cook cool or heat. I think brackets ought to be used more in sentences.

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

And we could be storing hydrogen created with electrolysis when there\'s too much electricity. This could then simply burn in a power station. For example an offshore windfarm with an electrolysis station and a power station to burn the hydrogen, both where the wire comes ashore.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, CK1@nospam.com says...

Ah, I also read it as \"(cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG) is banned.\" which would mean after NG, we are not allowed to cook cool or heat. I think brackets ought to be used more in sentences.

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

That is in California. Where almost everything causes cancer. Now
natural gas does something bad. They have starting banning all gasoline
powered lawn equipment like mowers and weed eaters.

There are some campers that the refrigerator is cooled by propane.

 

[danny burstein]

In <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:

[snip]

>Since when could gas cool something anyway?

Broadly speaking, two ways:

a: using it to directly power a compressor the same
way it can run a car or generator

and

b: through that whole \"ammonia cycle\" deal which, while
I\'ve seen it in operation, makes my head hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator

--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:46:25 -0000, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home>, CK1@nospam.com says...

Ah, I also read it as \"(cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG) is banned.\" which would mean after NG, we are not allowed to cook cool or heat. I think brackets ought to be used more in sentences.

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

That is in California. Where almost everything causes cancer.

Why did California end up so screwed up? They even banned topless women in public. Which is sexist....

> Now natural gas does something bad.

It burns to create CO2 and water, nothing toxic whatsoever. It\'s not like petrol.

They have starting banning all gasoline
powered lawn equipment like mowers and weed eaters.

There are some campers that the refrigerator is cooled by propane.

But not efficiently presumably. Gas by it\'s very nature starts the process by creating heat, the opposite of what you need. Whereas an electric compressor creates movement.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 13:01:01 -0500, REAL dumb Frankie Boi blathered again:

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains as we
are crucified on the green cross.

Trumptards just can\'t get the \"democrat party\" out of their dumb heads, eh,
Trumptard? LOL

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:51:51 -0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

In <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:

[snip]

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

Broadly speaking, two ways:

a: using it to directly power a compressor the same
way it can run a car or generator

But doesn\'t that create a lot of heat? More than motor coils would?

b: through that whole \"ammonia cycle\" deal which, while
I\'ve seen it in operation, makes my head hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator

Then I won\'t look, it\'s too late to think hard.

 

[Bob F]

On 11/6/2022 10:01 AM, Frank wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before.  Looks like
the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains as we
are crucified on the green cross.

Our republicrat party has said that we all must follow the precepts of
their religion.

 

[Joe]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

b) fictitious

--
Joe

 

[Colin Bignell]

On 06/11/2022 19:51, danny burstein wrote:

In <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:

[snip]

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

Broadly speaking, two ways:

a: using it to directly power a compressor the same
way it can run a car or generator

and

b: through that whole \"ammonia cycle\" deal which, while
I\'ve seen it in operation, makes my head hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator

I knew that as the Electrolux cycle.


--
Colin Bignell

 

[Spike]

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

--
Spike

 

[Bob F]

On 11/6/2022 11:59 AM, Joe wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:20 -0000
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:01:01 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks
like the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains
as we are crucified on the green cross.

I fail to see why people vote for left wing clowns.

Because they are either:

a) net tax recipients, or

b) fictitious

Or because they actually care about the people of this country, not just
the billionaires.

Republicans operate on the \"I got mine, screw you\" idealogy.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:28:18 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:55:01 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

ROFL! Like this bus? https://youtu.be/T71cVhxG_v4

Do you disagree with the numbers?

However, they\'re much safer than petrol filled vehicles.

Apparently hybrids are the worst.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too,

We have that. Reversible hydro electric dams, huge batteries like in California.

and cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is banned.

What is NG?

It\'s mostly methane.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 19:10:12 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 09:36:31 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


The troll will soon be all over these ngs again thanks to useless, endlessly
driveling troll-feeding senile ASSHOLES like you!

Get a name. Design some electronics.

Get a brain and stop feeding the troll, senile shithead!

Electronic design requires mental flexibility, which is associated
with humor and tolerance. It requires intelligence too.

So far, I keep getting better at electronic design. Spice helps that a
lot. I do let the kids type for me, don\'t care to code much any more.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 19:57:28 -0000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/6/2022 10:01 AM, Frank wrote:
On 11/6/2022 11:08 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:36:11 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:46:37 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like
the gas tank\'s running out....

We are winning the war on energy.

Explain.

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Barack Obama

Explain.

Our democrat party has all said we must suffer through these pains as we
are crucified on the green cross.

Our republicrat party has said that we all must follow the precepts of
their religion.

Which is a better religion than the liberal one.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:04:28 -0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 06/11/2022 19:51, danny burstein wrote:
In <op.1u78rjekmvhs6z@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:

[snip]

Since when could gas cool something anyway?

Broadly speaking, two ways:

a: using it to directly power a compressor the same
way it can run a car or generator

and

b: through that whole \"ammonia cycle\" deal which, while
I\'ve seen it in operation, makes my head hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator


I knew that as the Electrolux cycle.

Nothing sux like an Electrolux.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 20:11:58 -0000, Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:38:38 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 06 Nov 2022 17:25:22 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:48:52 +0000, Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 14:46, Commander Kinsey wrote:
It\'s happening already....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iph3vmipjmk6qu/grid.jpg?dl=0

I\'ve never seen the cables from Europe maxed out before. Looks like the
gas tank\'s running out....

Maybe Europe has more energy than it knows what to do with, e.g. wind,
rather than we are low on gas.

There is no obvious way to store even one full day\'s use of electrical
energy.

You can buy a battery which will power your home for a week.

A Powerwall costs about $11K and is claimed to power a typical house
for 1.5 days. Between fires.

Grid-scale storage would have to power industry and transport too, and
cooking and cooling and heating for all-electric homes after NG is
banned.

I get the impression that the idea of the renewables programme is to get
rid of industry, transport, and people.

We do need to get rid of people. 8 billion on this little planet is too much. But this view gets the anti-Nazi brigade all upset.