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[John Larkin]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Round the whole wide world...

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

<snip>

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 21, 3:58 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

   Round the whole wide world...

A flattering misconception. Sci.electronics.design is unusually active
as user gropus go, but it's scarcely the whole world.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman



bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman



bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups. You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics, no
creativity or humor (they go together), and you have the people skills
of a wolverine on a bad day.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser drivers and controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Oct 22, 9:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman

bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups.

Strange idea. I've been a member of a couple of productive engineering
groups,

Little of which saw production. Engineering that doesn't result in
products is a waste of time and money.

and I've remained in contact with the one at EMI Central

Research (1976-79) ever since. I'm even linked to some of them on
LinkedIn.

LinkedIn is not productive.

You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics,

A bizarre misconception. Even you should have enoguh sense to deduce
that this ins't true just from my posting patterns here - I don't
spend all my time (or even a substantial part of it) correcting your
misconceptions, though you are probably too emotionally involved to
credit this.

When I suggest things you might explore, you claim to be bored, or
demand to be paid to investigate.

no creativity or humor (they go together),

The patents do suggest that I do have some capacity for creative
thinking, and if you don't get my jokes your own sense of humour may
be the one at fault.

It's a while since I posted a joke that I really liked - like the one
in the thread "Op amp for division" back on April 11 1997 when I
claimed that

"It is with a certain measure of schadenfreude that we in Nijmegen
note
that Harvard's semi-automatous expert help system "Winfield Hill"
based
on Paul Horowitz's electronics textbook "The Art of Electronics" has
failed its extended Turing test."

That's the funniest you've been in 15 years?

but I do post intentionally comic stuff from time to time.

and you have the people skills of a wolverine on a bad day.

A claim that would surprise a large number of people that I know.
Nobody has ever accused me of being good at flattery,

Or at getting people to hire you.


which would seem

to be the only people skill that you actually value, but there's a
long gap between being direct and acting like a wolverine.

You would seem to be a perfect example of the kind of personnel
department which has absolute faith in their less-than-reliable
judgement.

I'm not a personnel department. My company doesn't even have one. And
I've hired lots of duds that looked pretty good at first. The trick is
to get rid of them if they turn out to be duds. Most of the good hires
here have been by informal contacts or by accident, not the
advertise-resume-interview routine, which usually doesn't work well. I
met my best engineer here on s.e.d. Our embedded programmer guy was
the lab partner of someone we knew who was in school. My business
manager is a lady I used to work on ships with, maintaining automation
systems, when I first came to California. My IT guy is the son of a
friend of my wife.

Luckily, California is a work-at-will state. We can lay off anyone at
any time for any reason, as they can quit any time they feel like it.
So if we don't have a mutually beneficial relationship, it ends.






--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser drivers and controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 22, 9:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman

bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology..com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups.

Strange idea. I've been a member of a couple of productive engineering
groups, and I've remained in contact with the one at EMI Central
Research (1976-79) ever since. I'm even linked to some of them on
LinkedIn.

You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics,

A bizarre misconception. Even you should have enoguh sense to deduce
that this ins't true just from my posting patterns here - I don't
spend all my time (or even a substantial part of it) correcting your
misconceptions, though you are probably too emotionally involved to
credit this.

no creativity or humor (they go together),

The patents do suggest that I do have some capacity for creative
thinking, and if you don't get my jokes your own sense of humour may
be the one at fault.

It's a while since I posted a joke that I really liked - like the one
in the thread "Op amp for division" back on April 11 1997 when I
claimed that

"It is with a certain measure of schadenfreude that we in Nijmegen
note
that Harvard's semi-automatous expert help system "Winfield Hill"
based
on Paul Horowitz's electronics textbook "The Art of Electronics" has
failed its extended Turing test."

but I do post intentionally comic stuff from time to time.

and you have the people skills of a wolverine on a bad day.

A claim that would surprise a large number of people that I know.
Nobody has ever accused me of being good at flattery, which would seem
to be the only people skill that you actually value, but there's a
long gap between being direct and acting like a wolverine.

You would seem to be a perfect example of the kind of personnel
department which has absolute faith in their less-than-reliable
judgement.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Jim Thompson wrote:

Thanks, Tom! I'll have to try that. Does it have deadband?

I didn't know what deadband refered to. Now I do, so the answer is I don't
know. I take it Treadway's 9-gate wonder did not? How can you ever know
without considering the output driver and filter characteristics?

My circuit is not 3-state, but at the time you asked for just an
edge-triggered set-reset flip flop. Since it's never hi-Z even when locked
I don't understand how it can have deadband. More jitter maybe since it
over-corrects, but not deadband. I hope you can clarify that for me.


--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 10/21/2012 9:32 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Thanks, Tom! I'll have to try that. Does it have deadband?

I didn't know what deadband refered to. Now I do, so the answer is I don't
know. I take it Treadway's 9-gate wonder did not? How can you ever know
without considering the output driver and filter characteristics?

My circuit is not 3-state, but at the time you asked for just an
edge-triggered set-reset flip flop. Since it's never hi-Z even when locked
I don't understand how it can have deadband. More jitter maybe since it
over-corrects, but not deadband. I hope you can clarify that for me.


The deadband occurs where the phase difference is small enough that the

PD2 output pulse width is less than t_PHL + t_PLH. The output pulse
becomes a runt, and the phase detector gain K_phi drops to zero at zero
phase difference.

The competing approach, used e.g. by Motorola back in the day, uses two
separate outputs and subtracts them in analogue. That still has
nonlinearity, but (a) K_phi only drops by a factor of 2 when one of the
two pulses disappears, and, even more important, (b) the loop isn't
trying to make the PD sit right on the flat spot, the way it is in the 4046.

Unlike the HC4046's VCO, PD2 is easy to fix--you just put a resistor to
ground to pull it slightly off the flat spot. A few nanoseconds' worth
is enough.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 USA
+1 845 480 2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 10/21/2012 10:14 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Oct 22, 12:40 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 10/21/2012 9:32 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:> Jim Thompson wrote:

Thanks, Tom! I'll have to try that. Does it have deadband?

I didn't know what deadband refered to. Now I do, so the answer is I don't
know. I take it Treadway's 9-gate wonder did not? How can you ever know
without considering the output driver and filter characteristics?

My circuit is not 3-state, but at the time you asked for just an
edge-triggered set-reset flip flop. Since it's never hi-Z even when locked
I don't understand how it can have deadband. More jitter maybe since it
over-corrects, but not deadband. I hope you can clarify that for me.

The deadband occurs where the phase difference is small enough that the
PD2 output pulse width is less than t_PHL + t_PLH. The output pulse
becomes a runt, and the phase detector gain K_phi drops to zero at zero
phase difference.

The competing approach, used e.g. by Motorola back in the day, uses two
separate outputs and subtracts them in analogue. That still has
nonlinearity, but (a) K_phi only drops by a factor of 2 when one of the
two pulses disappears, and, even more important, (b) the loop isn't
trying to make the PD sit right on the flat spot, the way it is in the 4046.

Unlike the HC4046's VCO, PD2 is easy to fix--you just put a resistor to
ground to pull it slightly off the flat spot. A few nanoseconds' worth
is enough.

The NXP 9046 uses a different solution again - current sources rather
than logic levels

http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf


The VCO is still nasty, but PC2 is well-behaved.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Yup, it's better, but it just saves you a single resistor and costs at
least a buck more. The 4046 PD2's flat spot is a minor wart if you know
about it, but it can be a real puzzler otherwise--superficially the loop
looks well-behaved, but it hunts back and forth by a few nanoseconds.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 USA
+1 845 480 2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 22, 10:41 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups.

Strange idea. I've been a member of a couple of productive engineering
groups,

Little of which saw production. Engineering that doesn't result in
products is a waste of time and money.

Perhaps. But I didn't get to chose which projects got funded - your
criticism is of U.K. engineering management, which wasn't all that
good, rather than of my competence as an engineer.

 >and I've remained in contact with the one at EMI Central
Research (1976-79) ever since. I'm even linked to some of them on
LinkedIn.

LinkedIn is not productive.

Sure. Whoever said it was? Apart from From LinkedIn, who want to make
money out of it ...

You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics,

A bizarre misconception. Even you should have enoguh sense to deduce
that this ins't true just from my posting patterns here - I don't
spend all my time (or even a substantial part of it) correcting your
misconceptions, though you are probably too emotionally involved to
credit this.

When I suggest things you might explore, you claim to be bored, or
demand to be paid to investigate.

I'm going to do stuff for you for free? I may be curious, but I'm not
gullible.

no creativity or humor (they go together),

The patents do suggest that I do have some capacity for creative
thinking, and if you don't get my jokes your own sense of humour may
be the one at fault.

It's a while since I posted a joke that I really liked - like the one
in the thread "Op amp for division" back on April 11 1997 when I
claimed that

"It is with a certain measure of schadenfreude that we in Nijmegen
note that Harvard's  semi-automatous expert help system "Winfield Hill"
based on Paul Horowitz's electronics textbook "The Art of Electronics" has
failed its extended Turing test."

That's the funniest you've been in 15 years?

That's the one that sticks in my mind - perhaps because Winfield Hill
did find it funny. I'm not going to do a web search for additional
examples - that would be taking you much too seriously.

but I do post intentionally comic stuff from time to time.

and you have the people skills of a wolverine on a bad day.

A claim that would surprise a large number of people that I know.
Nobody has ever accused me of being good at flattery,

Or at getting people to hire you.

I did pretty well from 1969 to 1991. After I'd turned 49 there were
actual gaps between jobs - I'd become experienced and relatively
expensive. People skills generally improve with age, so you've got to
be hypothesising that I metamorphosed into a wolverine in my late
forties, which is implausible, even for you. In fact at that point I'd
become the social glue that held the Cambrdige Instruments electron
beam tester project together, which was unexpected, and used up half a
day a week that I'd have preferred to devote to circuit design and
debugging.

 which would seem
to be the only people skill that you actually value, but there's a
long gap between being direct and acting like a wolverine.

You would seem to be a perfect example of the kind of personnel
department which has absolute faith in their less-than-reliable
judgement.

I'm not a personnel department. My company doesn't even have one.

But you do the selection and hiring, so you are the Highland
Electronics personnel department, as well as filling a number of other
functions. A jack of all trades, though you seem to have mastered
electronics, if not perhaps to the level of becoming a living national
treasure.

And I've hired lots of duds that looked pretty good at first. The trick is
to get rid of them if they turn out to be duds. Most of the good hires
here have been by informal contacts or by accident, not the
advertise-resume-interview routine, which usually doesn't work well.

You left out the "take up references" and/or talk to previous
employers part of the advertise-resume-inteview procedure. In the last
decade of my time in the UK I used to get a few phone calls a year
asking about people who had mentioned working with me to prospective
employers.

I
met my best engineer here on s.e.d. Our embedded programmer guy was
the lab partner of someone we knew who was in school. My business
manager is a lady I used to work on ships with, maintaining automation
systems, when I first came to California. My IT guy is the son of a
friend of my wife.

Which is to say you really haven't mastered the advertise/read resume/
interview routine which allows you to access a rather bigger pool of
candidates.

Luckily, California is a work-at-will state. We can lay off anyone at
any time for any reason, as they can quit any time they feel like it.
So if we don't have a mutually beneficial relationship, it ends.

So your limited skills in personnel selection aren't actually lethal.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 22, 12:40 pm, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 10/21/2012 9:32 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:> Jim Thompson wrote:

Thanks, Tom!  I'll have to try that.  Does it have deadband?

I didn't know what deadband refered to.  Now I do, so the answer is I don't
know.  I take it Treadway's 9-gate wonder did not?  How can you ever know
without considering the output driver and filter characteristics?

My circuit is not 3-state, but at the time you asked for just an
edge-triggered set-reset flip flop.  Since it's never hi-Z even when locked
I don't understand how it can have deadband.  More jitter maybe since it
over-corrects, but not deadband.  I hope you can clarify that for me.

The deadband occurs where the phase difference is small enough that the
PD2 output pulse width is less than t_PHL + t_PLH.  The output pulse
becomes a runt, and the phase detector gain K_phi drops to zero at zero
phase difference.

The competing approach, used e.g. by Motorola back in the day, uses two
separate outputs and subtracts them in analogue.  That still has
nonlinearity, but (a) K_phi only drops by a factor of 2 when one of the
two pulses disappears, and, even more important, (b) the loop isn't
trying to make the PD sit right on the flat spot, the way it is in the 4046.

Unlike the HC4046's VCO, PD2 is easy to fix--you just put a resistor to
ground to pull it slightly off the flat spot.  A few nanoseconds' worth
is enough.

The NXP 9046 uses a different solution again - current sources rather
than logic levels

http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf


The VCO is still nasty, but PC2 is well-behaved.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:15 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Oct 22, 10:41 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups.

Strange idea. I've been a member of a couple of productive engineering
groups,

Little of which saw production. Engineering that doesn't result in
products is a waste of time and money.

Perhaps. But I didn't get to chose which projects got funded - your
criticism is of U.K. engineering management, which wasn't all that
good, rather than of my competence as an engineer.

 >and I've remained in contact with the one at EMI Central
Research (1976-79) ever since. I'm even linked to some of them on
LinkedIn.

LinkedIn is not productive.

Sure. Whoever said it was? Apart from From LinkedIn, who want to make
money out of it ...

You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics,

A bizarre misconception. Even you should have enoguh sense to deduce
that this ins't true just from my posting patterns here - I don't
spend all my time (or even a substantial part of it) correcting your
misconceptions, though you are probably too emotionally involved to
credit this.

When I suggest things you might explore, you claim to be bored, or
demand to be paid to investigate.

I'm going to do stuff for you for free? I may be curious, but I'm not
gullible.

1. I didn't suggest that you do things that I need. I suggested that
you do things that might help *you* find useful something to do, maybe
even find work.

2. If you want someone to hire you, as a consultant or as an employer,
it's really good if you convince them that you are willing to work in
their interest. Learning their application and science, or offering a
freebie to start, is very good business. Sounding greedy and arrogant
and bored isn't.

Hey, it's your life; live it your way.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser drivers and controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 23, 6:25 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:01:15 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman



bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:41 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:45:18 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:01:46 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 10:27 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:49:56 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 21, 2:53 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:54:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:58 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:19 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 20, 10:35 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:02:51 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Oct 19, 11:59 pm, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
BillSlomanwrote:
On Oct 19, 4:00 am, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

snip

It's bad enough that you make statements that are uninformed or wrong,
but you have to phrase them as personal insults.

You do find personal insults where most people would merely find
colourful language.

Your story about applying for work at ASML summarizes the situation:
your are way to obnoxious for your own good.

I upset the personal department by going behind their backs to talk to
an engineer that I'd been interviewed by earlier. Personnel
departments aren't good at evaluating engineers. Good ones know it and
don't get too upset about being by-passed. Bad ones know it too but
hate being reminded that they aren't as clever as they like to think.
At ASML it looks as if the guy in charge was more interested in
defending his right to act as a gatekeeper than in getting the right
people through the gate.

Sounds to me that he did his job very well.

It could be that Highland Technology Inc. has the same kind of
problem.

Not hiring you is not a "problem", it's a joy.

Precisely. You are sacrificing potential long terms benenfits - very
potential in this case, granting your limited capacity to exploit
skills that might exceed your own - in favour of short term
gratification.

Not hiring you has enduring benefits.

Seriously, you'd be poison here, or to most productive engineering
groups.

Strange idea. I've been a member of a couple of productive engineering
groups,

Little of which saw production. Engineering that doesn't result in
products is a waste of time and money.

Perhaps. But I didn't get to chose which projects got funded - your
criticism is of U.K. engineering management, which wasn't all that
good, rather than of my competence as an engineer.

and I've remained in contact with the one at EMI Central
Research (1976-79) ever since. I'm even linked to some of them on
LinkedIn.

LinkedIn is not productive.

Sure. Whoever said it was? Apart from From LinkedIn, who want to make
money out of it ...

You seem to have no genuine curiosity about electronics,

A bizarre misconception. Even you should have enoguh sense to deduce
that this ins't true just from my posting patterns here - I don't
spend all my time (or even a substantial part of it) correcting your
misconceptions, though you are probably too emotionally involved to
credit this.

When I suggest things you might explore, you claim to be bored, or
demand to be paid to investigate.

I'm going to do stuff for you for free? I may be curious, but I'm not
gullible.

1. I didn't suggest that you do things that I need.

So you claim.

I suggested that you do things that might help *you* find useful something
to do, maybe even find work.

Very altruistic of you. Your grasp of the demands of the Dutch (and
now the Australia) job market for engineers may be better than mine,
since all I know about that subject is what I read in the local job
ads, but none of your suggestions has looked all that useful to me.

2. If you want someone to hire you, as a consultant or as an employer,
it's really good if you convince them that you are willing to work in
their interest. Learning their application and science, or offering a
freebie to start, is very good business.

For them. Less so for me. I might do it if I knew a fair bit about the
people involved, and had good reason to think them honest, but I've
got better things to do with my time than jumping through hoops in the
vague hope of beong considered for a particular job. Not all that much
better, perhaps, but still better than that.

Sounding greedy and arrogant and bored isn't.

Any more that sounding vain, petulant, and self-obsessed makes one
look attractive as an employer.

Wanting to get paid for doing a specific task isn't exactly greedy -
nobody values stuff they get for nothing, and people who don't have to
pay for work tend to be frivolous about expanding the scope of the
task. I'm certainly bored by a lot of the discussion that goes on here
- a lot of it is old errors being recycled by people who can't get
their heads around the fact that they might be wrong - and pointing
this out does make me sound arrogant. It's problem that all competent
people have to live with. I'd have thought that you might have run
into it from time to time, if you real-world competence came anywhere
near your self-image.

Hey, it's your life; live it your way.

Such a generous concession.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[oilstick]

On Sep 1, 8:18 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>
wrote:

Now I know why this is info is repeated everywhere on the net
because Mr.Deckeris having the search results sanitized.
What would Mr.Deckerbe trying to hide, oh, well read on:

Why doesn't Mark W.Deckerhave a professional page on LinkedIn or
Spoke or ZoomInfo highlighting his past employment history?

ANSWER: Because he has an abysmally bad and appalling business record
as a president and/or company executive replete with: 1) running the
organizations into the ground, 2) filing for corporate bankruptcy, 3)
charges of bribing federal contractors, 4) draining company finances,
5) retaliating against those who "whistle-blew" on him, etc. etc.

1) First, he worked at UNC, Inc:
Mark W.Decker, Vice President
UNC Inc.
175 Admiral Cochrane Drive
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
DOB: January 7, 1957
reported age was 37 in 1993 at UNC, Inc. according to:http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?
FetchFilingH...

Mr.Deckerhas served as Vice President, Corporate Development since
August 1993. Previously he served as President of the Company's
Accessory Services Group since January 1992 and prior to that he
served in various senior management positions with the Company for
more than five years.

2) Second, he worked at Mentor Technologies:
Mark W.Decker, President & CEO
Mentor Technologies Group, Inc
201 Defense Highway
Annapolis, MD 21401

Mentor Technologies in Middle East deal
December 4, 2000http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2000/12/04/newscolumn5.htm

l

"Today's fast-paced information culture demands a learning system
(vLab) with the convenience and cost effectiveness of Web-based
delivery," said Mark W.Decker, president and chief executive officer
of Mentor Technologies.
Ebosswatch.com rating for Mark W.Deckerwith Mentor Technologieshttp://www..ebosswatch.com/Reviews/Mark-W.-Decker/1412568302
Rated by his peers as "Unfavorable" in 7 different job categories
In 2001, Mentor Technologies ceased its operations and filed for
Chapter 7 bankruptcy.http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.as..

3) In the Fall 2001, Mr.Deckerbegan work at Belfort Instrument
Company and has found himself unemployed since 2005 when he was shown
the exit door by CEO & Owner Bruce R. Robinson:
Mark W.Decker, President
Belfort Instrument Company
727 South Wolfe Street
Baltimore, MD 21031

Ebosswatch.com rating with Belfort Instrument Companyhttp://www.ebosswatch.com/Reviews/Mark-W.-Decker/1412568293
Rated by his peers as "Unfavorable" in 7 different job categories
And now Belfort Instrument Company (dba DigiWx AWOS, Gamma
Scientific, UDT Instruments, Advanced Retro, RoadVista, KR
Acquisition Corporation) finds itself in United States Bankruptcy
Court as evidenced by:http://www.amrcaseinfo.com/pdflib/1631_15463.pdf

Belfort Instrument Company financials are so BAD that CEO Bruce R.
Robinson has his primary residence in a trust as noted at:http://www.city-data.com/bernalillo-county/P/Paa-Ko-Drive-2.html
You might ask "Why would someone put their home in a Trust?" as noted
at:http://belfort-instrument-company.pissedconsumer.com/belfort-
instrume...

"Belfort's owners have "valuables" (like their homes) held in a trust
to prevent creditors (in this case, the bank that lent Belfort
Instrument Company all that money) from seizing their personal
home(s) when Belfort can't pay back the business loans. In the case
of Belfort Instrument Company, this was a smart move (some might
consider this a sneaky move also) because I pulled Belfort's credit
reports from the 3 main credit bureaus and Belfort is currently
delinquent and "past due" with several creditors by more than 90 days
and in some cases 120 days. This means the money isn't coming in fast
enough from sales to pay for the company's debts. I even found notes
that some of Belfort's creditors are on a "cash only basis" meaning
Belfort needs to cough up money for goods and services (raw
materials) before another company will even sell them those goods
and services. This is NOT a pretty picture. This has been going on
for years. If you would be inclined to buy finished product from
Belfort, you may find a company which doesn't stand behind that
product because they went out of business. Info from Dun & Bradstreet
indicates turnover in this very small privately-held company at the
managerial and executive level so people's heads are probably rolling
there and it is likely only a matter of time before this business is
no more!

So who was driving these companies into the hole...... because there
is a common theme here...... his name is Mark W.Decker...... and he
lives at: 289 Long Point Road, Crownsville, MD 21032-1853. Call for a
personal appointment if you'd like to see how he can drive your
organization off a cliff!

Wanker Mark W.DeckerShatters World Masturbation Recordhttp://mark.w.decker.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/worldrecord.php

ATTENTION: Mark WilsonDeckeris apparently
posing as a photographer based upon his
Workface, LinkedIn, Posterous, Twitter
About.me, BigSight, Ziki, tBlog and
Wordpress profiles --- just goes to show
you how sneaky AND creepy he really is!

WHAT WOULD MARK W.DECKERBE TRYING TO HIDE???

Well, have a LQQK at this:
Two federal cases that specifically mention Mark W.Decker:
U.S. Department of Labor Case # 2006-SOX-57
U.S. Department of Labor Case # 2006-SOX-81

According to:http://www.mombu.com/aviation/civil-aviation/t-faa-dol-osha-fdic-doj-
investigating-belfort-instrument-digiwx-awos-10453477.html
Mark WilsonDeckerwas investigated for:

"FAA is investigating Belfort Instrument President Mark W.Deckerand
Digiwx AWOS Tech M. Tylor Burton for bribing federal FAA officials."
"DOL is investigating Belfort Instrument President Mark W.Decker
for retaliating after suing a former employee who rattedDecker
Pecker out under a federal whistleblower protection program."
Did Bruce R. Robinson, Nicholas C. Kaufman, Debra S. Lange Alascio,RalphF.. Petragnani and M. Tylor Burton aid in this conspiracy?

And there is MORE:
All the info contained herein has been published in some form
since at least 2005. Mark WilsonDeckergave up any legal right
(he may now be asserting) a long time ago that this info is
injurious to him or his family since the statute of limitations
to bring a libel lawsuit is 1 year in each of the 50 U.S. states.

brobin...@utilipoint.com> wrote:

Three little w h o r e s,
Three little w h o r e s,
See how they s u c k,
See how they f u c k,
Their daddy feels them up all day,
Their daddy probes their c u n t s all day,
Their days pimps them out all nite,
They're three D e c k e r  w h o r e s!

Somebody is censoring this stuff; the truth must hurt!

Onze afternoon, i wasz catchin a snooze in my backyard on a sunny day.
Much to my surprize, i lifted my hat and found my neighborz Jennifer
Lynn Racey unzipping my pants. Shez gestured to me with herz indexes
finger over herz slender lips to be quiet. I say figures okay, she
then unzipped my pants and reached in and tuggzed on my big black
mamba! Immediatelzly, my blacks a mamba becomes engorged with hot
burstz of human excitementz. With a big tugz with both of herz
handz, Jennifer Lynn Racey pluckz me black mamba to a full erctionz!
Shez then opened herz mothz and slipsz it over my full manhoodz. She
gagz and coughz a bit but begins herz suckin action upz and downz! She
repeatedlyz goez faster and faster untilz i feelz my venemouz black
mamba release a massive explozion into herz mouth. At first, shez
triyz to swallow it allz but my venomouz fluidz keepz jaculating in
herz mouth. Then, she pullz herz head awayz with herz handz
still clenched on my black mamba. She coughz and gagz a minute over
the concretes but then placez herz lips back on myz black mamba.
Once aginz, she jerks it hard withz both handz. Again, I'z begin to
release a strong venemouz fluid at a fullz flow into herz small
mouth. Myz black mamba squirmz in herz handz as i release all of my
venemous fluid from myz snake into herz mouthz. i'z kannotz waitz
til my neighbor Jennifer Lynn Racey sneaks back over to my house for
zome afternoonz delight. Next timz, me thinks i shall let my black
mamba go hogwildz in herz anuz. If she suckz me this good next time,
i shall let myz snake ezcape in herz anuz andz give her zome my
brotherly love. Myz black mamba has neverz felt so good after
Jennifer Lynn Racey wrapped herz lipz around the big headz on meez
mamba!

Mark W.Deckerhas a boat named Spoony:http://www.boatinfoworld.com/registration.asp?vn=96438

What do you think the chances are that he has already
"spooned" and felt-up all three of his daughters (Audrey,
Hannah and LibbyDecker) aboard his boat with his "vessel"
which he has a propensity to play with.... even in public!
Let's see if this causes Mark Kacucha some legal trouble:

Belfort President Mark W.Decker(U.S. Naval Academy alumnus), let me
tell you about this lowlife. Starts the workday between 9-10AM by
checking work and personal email. Come 11-11:30AM, he's getting ready
to go to the local gym to work out. Gets back in the office around 1PM
and only then decides to take a lunch break as if the gym workout
didn't count for a lunch break. By 1:30PM, he back checking work and
personal email and maybe making a few entires in his family diary
which he keeps at work on the company hard drive. Come 3-4PM, he's
getting anxious and is looking to wrap up his workday so he can go
home and coach soccer league for one of his three daughters. Needless
to say, all thru-out his "playful" workday, one gets to see all his
dirty n a s t y habits including:
1) scratching his balls,
2) stroking his c o c k,
3) farting (and then asking someone else if they farted),
4) belching,
5) biting his fingernails,
6) picking his nose (and eating the choice boogies),
7) scratching his ass,
8) picking at his toenails
9) coughing (he has a chronic productive cough... yuck)

Now keep in mind that this is a US Naval Academy graduate (Class of
1979) who's motto is "don't do as I do" but "do as I say!" Makes
complete sense because he superiors in the U.S. Navy recognized his
lack of leadership very early on. That's why Lt.Deckerdidn't last in
the U.S. Navy and decided to enter the corporate world where he could
use his skills of conniving, lying, denying, concealing, deceiving,
and making things up!

Let's get this straight, he been with at least three different
companies over the past dozen years, all where he had a hand in
running them into the ground. Doesn't a midshipman know how to steer
a boat to prevent it from running into the ground? He's been with:
1) Unc, Inc.
2) Mentor Technologies
3) Belfort Instruments

and now there appears to be evidence that he either resigned or
was fired from Belfort Instrument Company for "poor performance."
Seems like he spent four years trying to sell DigiWx and DigiWx AWOS
and was a miserable failure at all of it while dragging down the
finances for the rest of the Belfort company. It's easy to conclude
that Mark W.Deckeris "all that and a bag of chips" along with
some "s h i t" salza on the side!

How many freakin passes does this lowlife (who was born with a silver
spoon in his mouth) get? What kind of role m o d e l is he for his
three daughters Audrey, Hanna, and LibbyDecker? And how about his
wife Jennifer Racey who decided to keep her maiden name (maybe
because she knew about the lowlife she married).
Why do we have lowlifes like Mark W.Deckeraround? This guy thinks he
the best thing since sliced bread. He doesn't think his s h i t stinks
and he doesn't think too highly of woman in general either. Wonder how
he'll explain that one to his three daughters one day?

Mark W.Decker(the "w" stands for "wiener" which he scratches)
Jennifer L. Racey (probably wife)
289 Long Point Road (assessed value of $968,280 as of 1/1/05)
Crownsville, MD 21032-1853
DOB: January 7, 1957 according tohttp://anybirthday.com
SSN: 212-60-0049

And then we have this:
Hannah, Audrey & LibbyDecker(daughters) were found d e a d in a
second family home owned byRalphP.Decker, Mary AnnDecker, Mark
W.Deckerand Jennifer L. Racey according to land records available
from the Maryland State Department of Assessments and Taxation. No
immediate cause of d e a t h was available. The second family home
is located at: 11 Silverwood Circle SILVERWOOD Unit 3, Building 11,
SC 3, Annapolis, MD 21403.

No explanation was available about how Hannah, Audrey & LibbyDecker
ended up in this second family home versus the other family home at
289 Long Point Road, Crownsville, MD 21032-1853 which is noted as
being the family's primary residence according to land records
available from the Maryland State Department of Assessments and
Taxation.

And then this:

COCK Scratching Belfort Digiwx President Mark W.Deckerhttp://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilber...-20070812.html
Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker:
PREPARE A PROPOSAL FOR THIS CUSTOMER
Dilbert: WHY ME?
Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker: YOU
WERE WALKING BY. I HAD IT IN MY HANDS
Dilbert: WE CAN'T WIN THIS BUSINESS. WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT PRODUCTS
OR EXPERTISE.
Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker: JUST
SAY WE DO. WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT LATER
Dilbert: THEY KNOW WE DON'T. AND WE'D STILL BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE
BIDDER.
Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker: BID
LOW. WE'LL MAKE IT UP WITH CHNAGE ORDERS AND UNEXPECTED ESSENTIAL
UPGRADES.
Dilbert: IN OTHER WORDS, I'VE BEEN RANDOMLY ASSIGNED TO CREATE LIES
FOR A PROPOSAL WE CAN WIN FOR A SERVICE WE CAN'T PERFORM.
Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker: YOU
MAKE COMPETING SOUND BAD.
Just a typical day at Belfort Instrument Digiwx AWOS company with the
likes of Pecker Scratching Belfort Digiwx AWOS President Mark W.Decker, Resident MURDERER Debra S. Alascio Von Lange (aka Debra
Lange), Jowl, Belly & AssRalphF. Petragnani, and the other THREE
STOOGES: William C. Gordon, Bruce R. Robinson and Nicholas C. Kaufman.

Lastly, we have this:
Belfort Instruments Digiwx has t-shirts emblazoned with the phrase:
"The Wright Brothers Relied on Us"
American history seems to tell a very different story!
There is a press release with President Mark W.Decker
name on it as the contact at:http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/6/prweb67805.php
Mr.Deckersays "The Wright Brothers monitored these
(i.e. Belfort's) instruments as they prepared for
their famous flight on December 17th, 1903."
THIS IS COMPLETE B U L L S H I T (Mark W.Deckerstyle)
Here is what the Wright Brothers really wrote
on December 17, 1903:
"We had a 'Richard' hand anemometer with which we
measured the velocity of the wind. Measurements made
just before starting the first flight showed velocities
of 11 to 12 meters per second, or 24 to 27 miles per
hour. Measurements made just before the last flight
gave between 9 and 10 meters per second. One made just
after showed a little over 8 meters."
And then there is that indisputable picture of:
WILBUR WRIGHT USING A RICHARD'S ANEMOMETER (picture)http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Wright/history1_19012.html
Belfort Instrument Company President Mark W.Decker
is trying to re-write history to include mention of
Belfort and/or Friez. This is a shame and a sham!
Buy anything except Belfort Instrument Digiwx AWOS
from Bruce R. Robinson and company.

MARK WILSONDECKERhttp://www.e-
yearbook.com/yearbooks/United_States_Naval_Academy_Lucky_Bag_Yearbook/
1

979/Page_167.html

Mark came all the way across town to attend Canoe U. Plebe year he
became a news column regular from a starting posi- tion on the varsity
soccer team and co- captain of the plebe lax team. Youngster year
brought endless hours of study and a permanent nickname, " Max. " He
strove to max all he did and was involved in everything from hang
gliding to " 4 pts. " and stars and strips. His home became the refuge
for many youngster autos and drunk classmates, none the less the
welcome mat was always out, and the hospitality was deeply ap-
preciated. Second class year saw the dawning of the star fleet command
of which Max was the CO. Even though Mark had female connections in
nearly every college in Maryland and Virginia, his 20-10 was primarily
focused on the Ivy Leagues. Whether commanding a squadron or managing
a corporation, you can bet Max will maximize.

Last but not least:
Path: g2news1.google.com!...
From: George Orwell
Newsgroups: md.annapolis
Subject: Mentor Technologies Mark W.Deckerliked playing pocket pool
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:07:29 +0200 (CEST)
Mail-To-News-Contact:
Organization:
I saw where Mark W.Deckeris now working at Belfort Instrumentation
as I always wonder where he went after skipping out of Dodge City just
barely when he left Mentor Technologies. If he hadn't left Mentor in
2001,Deckerwould have been shown the exit after his dismal
performance at Mentor. The thing I will always remember aboutDecker
was his passion for playing pocket pool, the kind one plays when they
have something n a s t y growing in their crotch out of control. I
mean get some Desenex or something for that jungle rot. He was
absolutely icky just watching him work his hands in his pants pocket
as he attempted to reach his private parts in search of a much needed
scratch. Several coworkers always wondered exactly why he scratched
his crotch in public for everyone to see and notice. I guess he
figured that he could be a Baltimore Oriole Cal Ripkin on the baseball
diamond and nobody would notice, well many people did notice and found
it disgusting and repulsive to say the least. I know I always wonder
what his wife must have growing in her crotch as a result of him
passing along his germs and god knows what else to her. Anybody at
Belfort Instrumetnation seenDeckerdigging at his pecker in public?
I would bet he still is!

Belfort Instruments suing fired worker Mark W.Decker
A Baltimore manufacturer of weather instruments is suing a fired
employee it claims is on an anonymous Internet rampage. Belfort
Instrument says Mark W.Deckerhas been harassing current Belfort
employees via e-mail, calling the company's customers and partners
alleging unethical business practices, and posting trade secrets on
the Internet. DefendantDeckerhas an alarming history of engaging
in such 'anonymous' Internet attacks against those who he believes may
have slighted him (including past employers), and, absent a TRO, will
continue his historical pattern of making outrageous and harmful
attacks against the material business interests of Belfort Instrument,
reads Belfort's complaint, filed earlier this month in Baltimore
County Circuit Court. Belfort, which obtained a temporary restraining
order againstDeckeron Nov. 15, is suing him for misappropriating
trade secrets, breach of contract, defamation and tortious
interference with contractual relations. The company is seeking $1
million. After consulting with his client, Belfort attorney Douglas W.
Desmarais declined to speak about the case. My client's position is
that this is a dispute that they have chosen to resolve through legal
channels, and they're going to let it play out through legal channels,
Desmarais said.Deckercould not be located for comment; his phone
number is unlisted and a reverse search of his Annapolis, MD address
produced no results. According to the complaint, whenDeckerstarted
working for Belfort in 2001, he signed a contract promising that, if
he left the company, for two years afterward he would not say negative
things about it; if he did, he would face court action. He is also
bound by the Maryland Uniform Trade Secrets Act not to divulge
privileged information, Belfort says.Deckerwas fired on Oct. 20 of
this year and then started to harass his ex-girlfriend, still a
Belfort employee, via e- mail, the suit reads. He also allegedly e-
mailed the company's general mailbox anonymously, promising to fight
back against the company and drive it out of business. The company
also claims he called their customers and made untrue allegations.Deckeralso used an Internet newsgroup to criticize the Belfort
product he had been in charge of marketing, the DigiWx AWOS digital
weather transmitter, calling it DigiSHIT, Belfort claims. He also
allegedly listed which of Belfort's customers were using DigiWx. The
motion does not state how Belfort knows thatDeckeris behind the
anonymous e-mails, phone calls and Internet postings, but a letter
from Desmarais toDeckerwarns that Belfort can easily trace the
communications toDecker. Belfort also claims thatDeckerhas a
history of using pseudonyms to criticize whoever has offended [him] on
a particular day. Indeed, a search of Google's newsgroups shows lots
of chatter aboutDecker, including several posts purporting to
unmask him as the anonymous source of negative comments about
Baltimore.

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http://david-w-decker.is-a-jerk.com
http://david.w.decker.wasarrested.com/hacker
http://david.w.decker.wasarrested.com/phantom-shitter
http://david.w.decker.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/worldrecord
http://david.w.decker.is.stupid.isbisexual.com
http://david.w.decker.is-retarded.com
http://david.w.decker.is-addicted.com
http://david.w.decker.is-infected.com
http://david.w.decker.is-stupid.com

http://decker-construction-company.is-fat.com
http://decker-construction-company.is-dead.com
http://decker-construction-company.is-a-jerk.com
http://decker.construction.company.wasarrested.com/hacker
http://decker.construction.company.wasarrested.com/phantom-shitter
http://decker.construction.company.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/worldrecord
http://decker.construction.company.is.stupid.isbisexual.com
http://decker.construction.company.is-retarded.com
http://decker.construction.company.is-addicted.com
http://decker.construction.company.is-infected.com
http://decker.construction.company.is-stupid.com


Looking for this LOSER in Annapolis, MD...
http://william-l-decker.is-fat.com
http://william-l-decker.is-dead.com
http://william-l-decker.is-a-jerk.com
http://william.l.decker.wasarrested.com/hacker
http://william.l.decker.wasarrested.com/phantom-shitter
http://william.l.decker.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/worldrecord
http://william.l.decker.is.stupid.isbisexual.com
http://william.l.decker.is-retarded.com
http://william.l.decker.is-addicted.com
http://william.l.decker.is-infected.com
http://william.l.decker.is-stupid.com


BTW: Where is that kiddy diddling federal briber brother of yours who
graduated from the Naval Academy?

 

On Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:49:03 UTC+1, Jim Thompson wrote:

In anticipation of Black Tuesday I concocted my own anesthesia...



Cran-Raspberry Cosmopolitan



8 oz Cran-Raspberry Juice

2 oz Vodka

2 oz Limoncello

2 oz Cointreau



Shake well over ice and strain into cocktail glasses. Garnish with

Lime wedge from tree in your own backyard



Makes two doses of anesthesia.



The first round didn't put me out, so I'm on my second.... wheeeeee

:-}



...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Are you gonna be voting for Mr. Obama this time around, Jim?

 

[phaedrus]

Here's the netlist of the Malvino design. Seems to run alright...

"ExpressPCB Netlist"
"LTspice IV Version 4.17"
1
0
0
""
""
""
"Part IDs Table"
"Q1" "2N3904" ""
"Q2" "2N3906" ""
"V1" "12" ""
"V2" "PULSE(0 5 1 1n 1n 1 1 1)" ""
"R_LOAD" "1200" ""

"Net Names Table"
"N003" 1
"N004" 3
"0" 6
"N002" 9
"N001" 11

"Net Connections Table"
1 1 1 2
1 2 2 0
2 1 2 4
2 2 1 5
2 4 1 0
3 1 3 7
3 3 2 8
3 4 2 0
4 2 3 10
4 5 2 0
5 3 1 12
5 5 1 0

 

[Weland]

Sorry at the loss. He greatly influenced music. He was like a drummer
at the piano. Truly used the piano the percussion instrument it is.
His left hand span was INCREDIBLE! Anybody who attempts to play his
music learns that very quickly.

I think this was one of the most beautiful parts of his music. Much
like Liszt many years before him, he managed to get new, unique sounds
out of the piano, in a way never imagined before. I was really saddened
to learn that he died; we lost on of the greatest artists of our time.

--
Weland Treebark,
Wandering Philosopher and Engineer

 

[flipper]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:41:04 -0000, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"RosemontCrest" <rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:kaim1m$7tf$1@dont-email.me...
On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be confused
with a revolver.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx_WMcg_GtI

This isn't exactly the Youtube clip I was looking for - that was a
demonstration of a 9mm pistol someone had home-modified for full automatic
fire.

The clip I found looks like at least one pistol that was actually
manufactured for fully automatic.

There doesn't seem to be much application for a pistol that can empty the
clip in less than a couple of seconds - other than spraying a classroom full
of closely spaced schoolkids.

Congratulations. You provided the kind of 'hype' Jim was complaining
about but unable to provide an example of.

In the first place, the 'mass killing' didn't involve one of your OMG
a machine pistol, or any other fully automatic weapon, so your
'killing children' comment is gibberish. Btw, it would also be a lousy
choice because they're almost impossible to control, except for highly
trained experts. Full auto in a weapon that size and weight rides up
so 90% of your clip empties up the wall ending in the ceiling and
unless you're trying to take out Peter Pan, and he flies in the right
direction, you're just ventilating the room.

Next, it's already illegal for civilians to 'modify' a semi to be full
auto, not to mention illegal to own it if you, or someone else, did.
It's also illegal to own the 'parts' to do it since the 'parts',
themselves, are also treated as an "automatic weapon" so how you would
'ban' what is already banned six ways to Sunday is rather problematic.

And, yes, they're made 'new'. The Glock 18, made by the Austrian
company Glock Ges.m.b.H. and not your 'gun crazy Americans', is fully
automatic and illegal except for law enforcement, military, or Class 3
licensed dealers who, in turn, may only sell them to law enforcement
or the military. They, or law enforcement and the military, can,
however, make youtube videos showing you how they work.