Driver to drive?

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:bbf1e408-237b-4243-
94d4-ae6ba4b83164@googlegroups.com:

It's been that way for most of the last century, nothing new.

There is no day that passes where you do not make a retarded
statement. You are a goddamned idiot. Head off and DIE, PUTZ!

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:bbf1e408-237b-4243-
94d4-ae6ba4b83164@googlegroups.com:

That's wrong too. There are always properties for sale in NYC.

The reference was about US, not retarded developers.

WE cannot afford anything that is available, so WE WILL ALWAYS BE
RENTERS.

You are thick, boy! Goddamned retarded putz. Get off my posts!

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:bbf1e408-237b-4243-
94d4-ae6ba4b83164@googlegroups.com:

> how do you know what's going on in NYC?

Go away, retarded PUTZ!

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ddbecd12-1809-4c32-a548-c33918bd20ea@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 8:39:35 AM UTC-5, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d55b77a5-8fec-4aa8-86a3-9b9a6580a000@googlegroups.com:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/a-massive-wind-turbine-
colla
pses-in-new-york-city-smashing-car-and-destroying-billboard/


Nice try, Trumpanzee retard. Do you also think they cause
cancer?

BTW, that is a teeny tiny privately owned unit, not the ones
the
pissy little bitch named Donald J. Trump whines about.

It was not teeny tiny. Who owns it is irrelevant. And being in
a very urban setting, with people living and working nearby is
exactly the kind of setting that Trump whines about. He whines
about them lowering property values when one is put up in your
neighborhood.

Yeah, that and cancer. Donald whines about all sorts of things
that don't put money in his pockets.

"Lower property values"??? Did you see the neighborhood? I think
the three sided billboard kinda gives it a nice touch, don't you?

The massive monopole is actually a bigger eyesore than the
windmill you could barely see. I doubt that will be taken down.
The cell companies won't allow it.

WhoShitInTheGroup Louie is an utter retard, and he stinks up the
group too.

Goddamned New Jersey retards in Usenet. How quaint... NOT!

 

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:dc5eeb8e-a9f3-46f6-a973-70085f9a98d1@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 6:07:07 PM UTC-5, Robert Baer
wrote:
Hmmm . . . . Food for Thought

Snow, Traffic Jams and Electric Cars - has anyone thought
about it? If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in
a three hour
traffic jam?
With dead batteries - then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an
electric
vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no
heating ! You can try calling 911 to bring women and children
to safety! But they can not even come to help you since all
roads are blocked ! And when the roads become cleared, no one
can move! How do you charge the thousands of cars from the
traffic jam? Same problem during summer vacation departures
with miles of traffic
jams.
This will make cars run out of ?fuel? and cause never ending
traffic
jams.
But that will never happen, right ?

How about a powerful EMP event that takes the grid down for weeks,
or months? Gas stations could operate off small generators, and I
would think that refineries have large backup generators.

EMP is also able to damage circuits that are not even energized.
So those gen sets better be real dumb units.

The grid is not what goes down, the controls for it would, and by
association, they would not generate.

 

Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote in news:qv0tpf$r01$1@dont-
email.me:

On 1/5/20 10:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
news:8fe744ab-5eef-461c-a608-15a6b81c0df6@googlegroups.com:

Folks have had success using a car battery for spot welding...Use
the
starter solenoid and a push button and heavy copper lugs for the
welding points.

You can also use battery packs itself to spot weld additional
one. Start with some spring mounted cells, than build it up.

I am testing my 2 Kw 18650 packs on my Leaf now. Went a little
farter

Gas powered, eh?

Sorry, no gas, went further than before.

You must have missed the joke. Look at your spelling.

So, I guess that would be a "Leaf Blower"

I wonder if that option was available on Fred Flintstone's car.

Gota think of a make model name. Like in Robocop...

The SUX9000!

Own a piece of a rock!

The foot blister 3000.

The StoneHenge. Definitely heavier than a Leaf.

Hey I know... Cheops!

The Asteroid!

 

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in news:b93be829-bc28-435d-bb8d-
846527876b41@googlegroups.com:

If you don't use welding, a solder joint to nickel (or nickel-plated)
battery terminals can be made with an overly hot iron,

Except they are almost always steel.

 

edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
news:f89cc349-4981-47f2-87af-ec6a379bc3e1@googlegroups.com:

So, I guess that would be a "Leaf Blower"

Yes, that's the secret plan: SRB motors on my Leaf Blower.
Wondering if I need a permit to test at Edward's AFB.

Beans, beans, the musical fruit...

The more you eat, the more you'll toot!

Light it up and you'll have a hairless ass.

But not a whole lot of thrust.

 

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-8, Robert Baer wrote:

Hmmm . . . . Food for Thought

Snow, Traffic Jams and Electric Cars - has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour
traffic jam?
With dead batteries - then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric
vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !

since 8pm yesterday ... it's now 3am

Well, this is the emergence we are discussing.
I am just trying it out to remind myself not to do it
if my life (or schedule) or somebody's life (or schedule)
depends on it.

After driving/charging 220 miles in 48 hours with the Leaf,
i am stuck in Merced, CA outside the Nissan dealer. Nissan,
Ford, Toyota and Honda dealers are all closed and ICEing their
chargers.

I have a couple of miles left to move it in the morning,
but not enough to try out other chargers like the college and
county office. I would not even attempt to do so, since they
are running perhaps custom apps for their chargers. Can't believe
how many ways to skin the cat and switching electricity.

So, i am running the laptop (warmer) on the 2kW aux battery.
Should last at least until the morning.

PS: don't drive EV for long distance, even Tesla could run out.

 

[Tim Williams]

Seems I mostly see Gerber for fab, ODB++ for assembly data.

Some refer to it as "ASCII", which seems disingenuous and I assume is a
historical artifact.

PCB workflows change slowly and aren't very flexible, it seems. I mean, you
can very easily parse a pick-and-place file, or CSV or other spreadsheet or
table format, but no one in PCBA gets paid to write parsers.

One quirk that comes to mind, a testability report that doesn't detect SMT
pads, only vias of adequate size and thru pads. I assign testpoints in my
design, but no one reads the outputs, go figure.

Tim

--
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Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design
Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:9kfQF.263599$MD2.259328@fx48.iad...

Originally developed by Valor, ODB++ is an electronic database for printed
circuit board manufacturing. Created in 1995, it was designed as a way to
better organize the transfer of board data from the designer to the
manufacturer.
What is ODB++?
ODB++ is a data file structure stored in a hierarchy of files and folders.
Often when ODB++ files are transferred, designers will use common
operating system commands that preserve the hierarchy structure by lumping
all of the data into one compressed file.

Why ODB++?
The hierarchy structure in ODB++ allows designers and manufacturers to
transfer more than just the standard layer artwork and drill data featured
in the competing Gerber format. ODB++’s unique file structure allows for
large amounts of additional data to be included in a single file,
including the material stack-up, bill of materials, and component
placement, as well as dimension and fabrication data. With the exception
of Eagle, ODB++ can be accessed through most PCB design programs
(Expedition, PADS, Allegro), making it a nearly universal format
throughout PCB manufacturing.
Who Uses ODB++?
Because of its convenience and structure, ODB++ has become the industry
standard format for PCB manufacturing. Today, around 80 percent of PCBs
are fabricated using ODB++. Amongst the top-ten largest EMS companies,
virtually all are ODB++ compatible.
How does a PCB Manufacturer Handle ODB++ Data?
ODB++ files make it easy to generate all of the necessary programs and
instructions for PCB machinery. ODB++ allows for quick and easy product
manufacturing, without the hassle of having to reverse-engineer data to
the machine software. ODB++ makes it possible for manufacturing to create
your product at the shortest possible turnaround time. Its comprehensive
file structure guarantees less chance for machine or human error in the
manufacturing process, ensuring top quality and reliability in your PCBA.

*NOTE: "With the exception of Eagle"

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 8:27:03 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 17:52:23 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

Of course you do. Psychopaths always find it hard to realise why other people find them obnoxious.

Well, I've had you down for a few things on this group, Bill, but I
never had you down for a snowflake. Dishing out all that supercilious
condescension and yet you can't take a little polite criticism in
return.

Cursitor Doom trying to look inoffensive, and failing. He may have a very strange idea of what might "constitutes polite criticism" but he has claimed that I'm a Marxist, by which he might merely have meant that I'm not his kind of right-wing nitwit, since he clearly doesn't understand the rest of the implications.

Fancy having to tip-toe around the senstitivities you've never
shown before. Hmmm. Nope. I don't buy it.

You say what you feel like saying, and anybody who doesn't like it is "excessively sensitive".

The problem with venting opinions about subject you don't understand is that you can be quite a bit more offensive than you imagine.

On the other hand, you could be not only a psychopath but also complacent psychopath. But pig-ignorant in any event.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 05:37:52 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>You say what you feel like saying, and anybody who doesn't like it is "excessively sensitive".

This is Usenet, mate. It's not for pussies. You've been here more than
20 years, same as I have, so you're clearly no pussy. Don't try to
pretend to be as you're fooling no one.

>The problem with venting opinions about subject you don't understand is that you can be quite a bit more offensive than you imagine.

That's USENET! You have the same right to be every bit as offensive in
return - and you frequently are.

>On the other hand, you could be not only a psychopath but also complacent psychopath. But pig-ignorant in any event.

There you go again: ending with another barbed remark. Am I supposed
to take these constant insults with good grace and not answer back? I
think we both know the answer to that, Bill.

--

"The BEST Deal is NO DEAL"

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 5:44:39 AM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

PS: don't drive EV for long distance, even Tesla could run out.

I guess it was a miracle I made it from DC to Houston and back. Yup, a blessed miracle.

Or maybe it had to do with buying a rational car and then driving it rationally?

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[Winfield Hill]

Tim Williams wrote...

One quirk that comes to mind, a testability report that
doesn't detect SMT pads, only vias of adequate size and
thru pads. I assign testpoints in my design, but no one
reads the outputs, go figure.

What's this "testability report", generated by what?


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 6:24:23 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 5:44:39 AM UTC-5, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

PS: don't drive EV for long distance, even Tesla could run out.

I guess it was a miracle I made it from DC to Houston and back. Yup, a blessed miracle.

Or maybe it had to do with buying a rational car and then driving it rationally?

It's a miscalculation. Day time visit only in Merced. It's a man-made emergency, since there is no incentive for dealers to support EV. Imagine closing all gas station after business hours. BYW, no Tesla dealer nearby as well. As least i enjoy sucking up all the Nissan electricity, coffee and using the rest room when available.

 

[three_jeeps]

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 6:07:07 PM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:

Hmmm . . . . Food for Thought

Snow, Traffic Jams and Electric Cars - has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour
traffic jam?
With dead batteries - then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric
vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they can not even come to help you since all roads are blocked !
And when the roads become cleared, no one can move!
How do you charge the thousands of cars from the traffic jam?
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic
jams.
This will make cars run out of ?fuel? and cause never ending traffic
jams.
But that will never happen, right ?

dont forget the string of vehicles leaving south Flordia heading to points (very) north to escape hurricanes.
My problem with EVs is that no matter how rational and careful the driving habits, routing, and planning may be, there are cases that make a singular technology with very limited auxiliary or alternative fuel/propulsion approaches that make them unacceptable. With single source gasoline or hybrid vehicles, one can throw a 5 gal can of gasoline in the trunk and get an additional 75 to 100+ miles to get to a safe state. The refueling can happen in 5 mins. I can't throw 500 D cell batteries in an EV as a backup. If I could, I'd still need to take 1-8 hours (depending on the approach) to fully recharge the primary batteries....as the hurricane sweeps over the area where my vehicle is recharging, as well as taking out parts of the power distribution system.
This is why, IMHO, hybrids make the most sense.

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 10:01:44 AM UTC-5, three_jeeps wrote:

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 6:07:07 PM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:
Hmmm . . . . Food for Thought

Snow, Traffic Jams and Electric Cars - has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour
traffic jam?
With dead batteries - then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric
vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they can not even come to help you since all roads are blocked !
And when the roads become cleared, no one can move!
How do you charge the thousands of cars from the traffic jam?
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic
jams.
This will make cars run out of ?fuel? and cause never ending traffic
jams.
But that will never happen, right ?

dont forget the string of vehicles leaving south Flordia heading to points (very) north to escape hurricanes.
My problem with EVs is that no matter how rational and careful the driving habits, routing, and planning may be, there are cases that make a singular technology with very limited auxiliary or alternative fuel/propulsion approaches that make them unacceptable. With single source gasoline or hybrid vehicles, one can throw a 5 gal can of gasoline in the trunk and get an additional 75 to 100+ miles to get to a safe state. The refueling can happen in 5 mins. I can't throw 500 D cell batteries in an EV as a backup. If I could, I'd still need to take 1-8 hours (depending on the approach) to fully recharge the primary batteries....as the hurricane sweeps over the area where my vehicle is recharging, as well as taking out parts of the power distribution system.
This is why, IMHO, hybrids make the most sense.

I don't live in southern Florida, so this particular scenario doesn't bother me so much. I'm more worried about those five asteroids they discovered that were in near-Earth orbits which is to say not at all.

What is more interesting is the rational that prompts millions of people to live on a one dimensional strip of land that is only a few feet above sea level and is hit frequently by massive hurricanes. Why would anyone want to live someplace that has the same problem, year after year, after year? Being devastated is not a question of if, but only of when.

Why, why, why?

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On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 7:01:44 AM UTC-8, three_jeeps wrote:

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 6:07:07 PM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:
Hmmm . . . . Food for Thought

Snow, Traffic Jams and Electric Cars - has anyone thought about it?
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour
traffic jam?
With dead batteries - then what?
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric
vehicle.
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!
But they can not even come to help you since all roads are blocked !
And when the roads become cleared, no one can move!
How do you charge the thousands of cars from the traffic jam?
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic
jams.
This will make cars run out of ?fuel? and cause never ending traffic
jams.
But that will never happen, right ?

dont forget the string of vehicles leaving south Flordia heading to points (very) north to escape hurricanes.
My problem with EVs is that no matter how rational and careful the driving habits, routing, and planning may be, there are cases that make a singular technology with very limited auxiliary or alternative fuel/propulsion approaches that make them unacceptable. With single source gasoline or hybrid vehicles, one can throw a 5 gal can of gasoline in the trunk and get an additional 75 to 100+ miles to get to a safe state. The refueling can happen in 5 mins. I can't throw 500 D cell batteries in an EV as a backup.

I have 500 18650 in 50 pound suitcase. They can be fully charged and carry on the train/bus if necessary.

> If I could, I'd still need to take 1-8 hours (depending on the approach) to fully recharge the primary batteries....

Just tapping on the 12V bus reduce drain on the main battery. So, the main can last a bit longer. When out of immediate danger zone, i can invert it back to the main battery.

> as the hurricane sweeps over the area where my vehicle is recharging, as well as taking out parts of the power distribution system.

Our problem here is earthquake. Gas stations/trucks are not immune to the damages. At least the sun will still be shining.

> This is why, IMHO, hybrids make the most sense.

Hybrids are by definition a combination of two systems, and cost more than either one alone to buy and maintain.

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 2:47:55 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

The introduction of the EV signals the end of the auto industry as we
have known it, yes I think so. That doesn't at all mean everybody's
gonna get an electric car or have any car at all. The Volt and Bolt and
Leaf were the first affordable long-range high-performance
electric/hybrid vehicles and I think there's a good chance they will be
the last, too.

Your OCD with the Volt is showing. Too bad no one else agrees with you. All the Volt did was squander GM's tax credits. It would appear they used it as a springboard to the Bolt, but completely failed on any follow through such as information on charging, incentivizing dealers or even advertising.. It's almost as if GM had no interest in EVs and were actually trying to sink that boat. Well, GM certainly put a hole in their own dinghy.

Honda agrees with you about hybrids. We'll find out if they alone are right. Oh, wait, hybrids have been around for two decades. If they were the way forward you'd think they would already have moved the market and created a new standard vehicle. Instead GM deleted the Volt. The Volt is now just a comma on the page of automotive history.

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[Rick C]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 9:36:06 AM UTC-5, Winfield Hill wrote:

Tim Williams wrote...

One quirk that comes to mind, a testability report that
doesn't detect SMT pads, only vias of adequate size and
thru pads. I assign testpoints in my design, but no one
reads the outputs, go figure.

What's this "testability report", generated by what?

The one time I heard about ODB++ was at a contract assembler who wanted to use it to find the pads in the design. There was no reason to consider test points because the boards are tested on a custom test fixture.

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