Driver to drive?

On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 12:01:07 AM UTC-5, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-01-05, Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 8:52:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:

Most people used the 80188/6 for embedded PC.

What exactly is an "embedded PC"? PC stands for Personal Computer
which is not an embedded computer at all. What are you trying to say?

PC compatible embedded in some other device (eg kiosk, ATM, video
slot machine, etc.)

PC/104 possibly also qualifies as embedded pc.

Not an 80186.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d40e8f07-6cd9-4298-a790-fe1557b6f535@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 8:52:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown
wrote:

Most people used the 80188/6 for embedded PC.

What exactly is an "embedded PC"? PC stands for Personal Computer
which is not an embedded computer at all. What are you trying to
say?

It was for industrial embedded machine control. Not a PC ever AFAIR.
It gained huge decades long success that way too. Then other, less
consumptive, more robust microcontrollers entered the market. ATOM and
ARM to name a couple.
 
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:qutmui$lmi$1@dont-email.me:

I am neat, careful, and quick to avoid overheating when soldering.
How possible is it to solder a large lithium-ion battery without
damaging or degrading the battery? For connecting batteries
together.

I like doing things right, so I'm willing to buy a $100 Chinese
battery connector welding box. But the foreseeable need is only
about five two- cell battery packs. You do the math...

Thanks.

Gold foil tabs and compressive contact in a tight fitting
enclosure.

Tiny spot welder.

Braze, but that soaks way more heat, but you would then find out
with that one battery just how much damage heat causes, if any.

Solder takes so long to get a good "wetting" that it likely soaks
more heat than brazing would.

If there is a such thing as a small diameter wire welder (MIG),
then you might find a setting that would let you "spot weld" with it.
You would need a single spot.

One heat test would be to attach wires to a single battery and
place it in a thermal chamber and observe its behavior through a
moderate load as the temperature climbs.

Then you could tell if a single high heat attachment event is
particularly damaging or not. Or do it outside the box by using a
chef's torch to heat an end up and check for degradation.
 
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote in
news:f7KdnWXed6uz84_DnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@giganews.com:

On 2020/01/05 2:34 p.m., edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
Folks have had success using a car battery for spot
welding...Use the
starter solenoid and a push button and heavy copper lugs for the
welding points.

You can also use battery packs itself to spot weld additional
one. Start with some spring mounted cells, than build it up.

I am testing my 2 Kw 18650 packs on my Leaf now. Went a little
farter

Gas powered, eh?

(sorry, couldn't resist).

John ;-#)#

That joke stinks!
 
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
news:8fe744ab-5eef-461c-a608-15a6b81c0df6@googlegroups.com:

Folks have had success using a car battery for spot welding...Use
the
starter solenoid and a push button and heavy copper lugs for the
welding points.

You can also use battery packs itself to spot weld additional
one. Start with some spring mounted cells, than build it up.

I am testing my 2 Kw 18650 packs on my Leaf now. Went a little
farter

Gas powered, eh?

Sorry, no gas, went further than before.

You must have missed the joke. Look at your spelling.
 
omnilobe@gmail.com wrote in
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On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 2:54:58 PM UTC-10, Michael Terrell
wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 5:13:54 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:

In all the references I've looked at I haven't seen anyone
state that as a show stopper until it is solved. What do you
know about it? Hydrogen is not as small as helium.


That's interesting.

A Hydrogen atom is one Proton and one Electron.

A Helium atop is two Protons, two Electrons and one or two
Neutrons

You need to learn about 'hydrogen embrittlement in steel'.

Helium is a gas of atoms .
Hydrogen is a gas of H2 molecules.
He atoms are used in leak detectors for that reason.
He is smaller than H2.

But they have found that even though a single layer of graphene has
a huge matrix (single layer lattice) much larger than a helium atom,
they will still no longer pass through it. It would make for a
better lining on Helium balloons.
 
Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4dab3274-dde7-46d1-9b19-f2d4f5018f6b@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 12:01:07 AM UTC-5, Jasen Betts
wrote:
On 2020-01-05, Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 8:52:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown
wrote:

Most people used the 80188/6 for embedded PC.

What exactly is an "embedded PC"? PC stands for Personal
Computer which is not an embedded computer at all. What are
you trying to say?

PC compatible embedded in some other device (eg kiosk, ATM, video
slot machine, etc.)

PC/104 possibly also qualifies as embedded pc.

Not an 80186.

As far as I know kiosks and such NEVER had an 80186 in them. It is
16 bit and that was long before kiosks and ATMs (years) and they
NEVER used a 16 bit machine.
 
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 2:13:54 PM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 3:38:04 PM UTC-5, keith wright wrote:

Mixing hydrogen with natural gas has been proposed although it looks like a significant issue is leakage through piping walls due to the small size of the hydrogen molecule.

In all the references I've looked at I haven't seen anyone state that as a show stopper until it is solved. >What do you know about it? Hydrogen is not as small as helium.

In theory, a Hydrogen molecule has the same electron structure (two electrons in 1S shell) as Helium,
thus the van der Waals volume of hydrogen, 0.02651 L/mol, is comparable to that of
Helium, 0.0238 L/mol. It's about the same size.

The thing is, H2 doesn't diffuse through most metals; if you get it trapped by
welding, or neutrons diffusing in, and turning to protons (hydrogen nuclei), that's a problem.
A monatomic hydrogen atom in a metal matrix IS a weakening impurity.
A pipe or tank doesn't leak too badly with gas pressure, though.

How much Hydrogen can you store at that pressure? It would need to be in liquid form, for efficient storage.

How much will leak at pipe joints? Teflon tape or pipe dope work OK with Natural Gas, but do they work with Hydrogen?

What percentage of H2 is mixed with the other gases for household heating use? Too many questions, but so few answers. Gas piping in the use is moving away from black iron to orange plastic for distribution.

The last time that I installed Natural gas service, it was plastic from the now Duke Energy steel pipe, to the meter base. Then it went back to black iron, to the furnace and hot water heater. That was 35 years ago.

I was told that homeowners couldn't install their own service. I asked them to give me the law that prevented it. They couldn't. Then I was told that no one passed the leak tests, the first time. I did both.
 
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 9:09:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 7:54:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 5:13:54 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:

In all the references I've looked at I haven't seen anyone state that as a show stopper until it is solved. What do you know about it? Hydrogen is not as small as helium.


That's interesting.

A Hydrogen atom is one Proton and one Electron.

A Helium atop is two Protons, two Electrons and one or two Neutrons

You need to learn about 'hydrogen embrittlement in steel'.

Hydrogen seldom exists as a single atom. That would be a free radical. Hydrogen exists as H2. We call that a molecule. Can you say mol¡e¡cule?

Then there is the fact that the two protons in a Helium atom hold the electrons much closer than the single electron in the Hydrogen atom. So even a single atom of Hydrogen is half again larger than a Helium atom which has a full valence shell so doesn't form diatomic molecules. He has a diameter of about 1 Å and the H2 molecule is 2.11 Å along the long axis.

You need to learn about physics and chemistry.

Can you say, Use less ass hole?

I could not see the word Molecule in the quoted text of your post. Google groups grays it out so much that it is often unreadable. Most of the time there is nothing display so I have no idea what you are ranting about and I just go to the next message. I have spent most of my time for the last two weeks with my legs propped on my computer desk to reduce swelling, and to get dozens of wounds to dry up, so the 24" monitor is over six feet away. May your last gays on earth be no better than mine.

I asked my questions, because what I saw didn't make sense. Rather than you posting a polite reply to clarify the issue, you were your usual nasty self.
 
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 10:23:50 PM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:

In theory, a Hydrogen molecule has the same electron structure (two electrons in 1S shell) as Helium,

Not really. He is a single atom so 2 electrons in a single 1S shell. H2 is two atoms sharing 2 electrons between them. Not really the same.

Only approximately the same; an H atom is large while an H2 molecule has
the hybrid orbitals mainly outside the nucleus-nucleus spacing (which is small). The H2 molecule
is nowhere near the size of two H atoms, because the nuclear charge is doubled, just like in He.
 
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:36:19 PM UTC-8, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:

The thing is, H2 doesn't diffuse through most metals; ...
A pipe or tank doesn't leak too badly with gas pressure, though.

How much Hydrogen can you store at that pressure? It would need to be in liquid form, for efficient storage.

For most uses, 'high pressure' is about 2000psi. That doesn't store much hydrogen per cubic foot,
and neither does liquid; the preferred storage is dissolved in solid (intercalation compounds).
For C3N4, pressures on the order of 500 psi should suffice, and you get about 25 lbs of H2
in a modest mass of tank, about the same energy as 60 lbs of gasoline.

> How much will leak at pipe joints?

Good joints are ones that don't leak.
 
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3b610e69-03a8-46e4-bba0-4b754f28e3f8@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:36:19 PM UTC-8, Michael Terrell
wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:

The thing is, H2 doesn't diffuse through most metals; ...
A pipe or tank doesn't leak too badly with gas pressure,
though.

How much Hydrogen can you store at that pressure? It would need
to be in liquid form, for efficient storage.

For most uses, 'high pressure' is about 2000psi. That doesn't
store much hydrogen per cubic foot, and neither does liquid; the
preferred storage is dissolved in solid (intercalation compounds).
For C3N4, pressures on the order of 500 psi should suffice, and
you get about 25 lbs of H2 in a modest mass of tank, about the
same energy as 60 lbs of gasoline.

How much will leak at pipe joints?

Good joints are ones that don't leak.

Good joints are the ones that make your brain leak.
 
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:quv737$1rnt$2
@gioia.aioe.org:

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3b610e69-03a8-46e4-bba0-4b754f28e3f8@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:36:19 PM UTC-8, Michael Terrell
wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:

The thing is, H2 doesn't diffuse through most metals; ...
A pipe or tank doesn't leak too badly with gas pressure,
though.

How much Hydrogen can you store at that pressure? It would need
to be in liquid form, for efficient storage.

For most uses, 'high pressure' is about 2000psi. That doesn't
store much hydrogen per cubic foot, and neither does liquid; the
preferred storage is dissolved in solid (intercalation compounds).
For C3N4, pressures on the order of 500 psi should suffice, and
you get about 25 lbs of H2 in a modest mass of tank, about the
same energy as 60 lbs of gasoline.

How much will leak at pipe joints?

Good joints are ones that don't leak.

Good joints are the ones that make your brain leak.

What is the drum sound (rimshot)? Ba Dum Dum Chee!
 
Am Sun, 05 Jan 2020 11:32:52 -0800 schrieb Rick C:

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 2:14:54 PM UTC-5, peter wrote:
Am Sun, 05 Jan 2020 09:48:29 -0800 schrieb Rick C:

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 8:52:16 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:

Most people used the 80188/6 for embedded PC.

What exactly is an "embedded PC"? PC stands for Personal Computer
which is not an embedded computer at all. What are you trying to
say?

A classical example would be a computer in PC/104 < https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC/104> format ...

Cheers, Peter

They don't use the 80186. The 80186 could not be used for a PC because
it had a fixed memory map that did not match the PC. It would have
required a wholly new operating system than any running on the PC when
the 80186 was a viable chip.

You're right -- I stand corrected.
 
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d55b77a5-8fec-4aa8-86a3-9b9a6580a000@googlegroups.com:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/a-massive-wind-turbine-colla
pses-in-new-york-city-smashing-car-and-destroying-billboard/


Nice try, Trumpanzee retard. Do you also think they cause cancer?

BTW, that is a teeny tiny privately owned unit, not the ones the
pissy little bitch named Donald J. Trump whines about.

It was not teeny tiny. Who owns it is irrelevant. And being in
a very urban setting, with people living and working nearby is exactly
the kind of setting that Trump whines about. He whines about them
lowering property values when one is put up in your neighborhood.




And it was probably pissy little TrumpBitch money that paid for some
Trumpanzee retard to cause it to collapse.

Obvious TDS here.




Nice try, Tea Party throwback Trumpanzee sheep, Republican party
interloper dumbfuck.

This would be a good time to tell everyone again that you're a Republican.
It's your party that picked Trump, that enables him, that lies for him,
that keeps him in power and that is running him for a second term.
 
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 12:14:46 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:47:39 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell wrote:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/a-massive-wind-turbine-collapses-in-new-york-city-smashing-car-and-destroying-billboard/

A tall, skinny pole with a windmill on top puts a lot of force on the
base. There are lots of pics and videos online of giant windmills
tipping over. It takes massive amounts of concrete to make a solid
base, and the poles break too.

Bad things happen when the gearbox or generator catch fire, too.
Blades fly off and stuff.



I agree. If the timing was a little different, that could have killed someone, but the loons screech that it is fossil fuel/ nuclear that kills. I'll bet the damage was well over $100,000.

What was the cost of the damage from Chernobyl and Fukushima? Fukushima
alone is estimated at $200+ bil. What a bizarre and silly argument.



This is like people who don't do the math for tower loading. They just keep adding crap that stresses the tower in high winds, until it collapses. That is one of the few benefits of the repacks at TV towers. They have to remove a lot of old crap that isn't in service for approval to keep using the tower with a new antenna.

Might be better to wait for an actual failure analysis.
 
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 1:23:22 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
mpm <mpmillard@aol.com> wrote in
news:feae1a01-8577-4503-8cd2-f234c067ed2a@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 7:19:10 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman
wrote:

Wind turbines need to be properly engineered and maintained -
they fall d
own if they aren't, like every other sort of civil engineering
project.

Bridges fall down from time to time too, but nobody complains
about renew
able energy when that happens.

I'll never forget something my brother said to me when he used to
live in Queens (an NYC borough): He said you just never know
what's going to happen. You could be driving along the Long
Island Expressway and a big pothole the size of your car could
suddenly open up and that would be it for you.

I like to visit New York City, but no way I would ever want to
live or work there! Too many people. (And with excessive
population comes problems of sort described here: un-permitted,
shady installations that pose a danger to the public!)


I lived in NJ and the ONLY reasons to go to 'the city' was to see a
concert or visit a museum or the Bronx Zoo. Back in the '80s one had
to pay $15 for the parking and you'd better pay the attendant $15 too
if you wanted your car and its contents to be undisturbed. The only
other reason was for 'drugs', which in my case meant cannabis.

Pretty weird the place we went had a line outside their door 15
people long, and when we got to the door there were 15 people behind
us. You would crouch down and say "ocho" To the crack at the base of
the door. And slide $40 under, and then 8 little paper envelope
parcels would bubble up under the door to you. That was in Spanish
Harlem right at the top corner of Central Park. We would sometime go
North as we left and then turn onto 125th in Harlem, which would lead
us past The Apollo. It was like 7 lanes wide when there was no
double parking, but the pavement was many feet thick and bounded up
and down everywhwre because of the way the would pave and then drive
on it. Hundreds of thousands of cars a day.

Well, that helps explain what we see here from you.




So, IF one lived there these days, it would be wise to NOT own a
car UNLESS you have your own garage, becasue street parking is a 100%
pure stupid move. Be a bike rider or public transpo user.

It's been that way for most of the last century, nothing new.



The really lame thing about NYC is that ALL the property is owned
and you WILL be a renter.

That's wrong too. There are always properties for sale in NYC.



And that sucks because the wait lines are
> years long

Wrong, always wrong.




and most of the choices are hugely overpriced real hole in
the wall POS domociles. The landlords are lame, and half the nation
went and voted one of the city's most retarded greedy bastards into
our nation's highest office. HOW FUCKING LAME.

de Blasio is the mayor of NYC, and Democrats have controlled the council
for decades. And since you admit you haven't been there in years,
how do you know what's going on in NYC?

Wrong, always wrong.
 
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 2:44:52 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 9:09:30 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 7:54:58 PM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 5:13:54 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:

In all the references I've looked at I haven't seen anyone state that as a show stopper until it is solved. What do you know about it? Hydrogen is not as small as helium.


That's interesting.

A Hydrogen atom is one Proton and one Electron.

A Helium atop is two Protons, two Electrons and one or two Neutrons

You need to learn about 'hydrogen embrittlement in steel'.

Hydrogen seldom exists as a single atom. That would be a free radical. Hydrogen exists as H2. We call that a molecule. Can you say mol¡e¡cule?

Then there is the fact that the two protons in a Helium atom hold the electrons much closer than the single electron in the Hydrogen atom. So even a single atom of Hydrogen is half again larger than a Helium atom which has a full valence shell so doesn't form diatomic molecules. He has a diameter of about 1 Å and the H2 molecule is 2.11 Å along the long axis..

You need to learn about physics and chemistry.


Can you say, Use less ass hole?

I could not see the word Molecule in the quoted text of your post. Google groups grays it out so much that it is often unreadable. Most of the time there is nothing display so I have no idea what you are ranting about and I just go to the next message. I have spent most of my time for the last two weeks with my legs propped on my computer desk to reduce swelling, and to get dozens of wounds to dry up, so the 24" monitor is over six feet away. May your last gays on earth be no better than mine.

I asked my questions, because what I saw didn't make sense. Rather than you posting a polite reply to clarify the issue, you were your usual nasty self.

You didn't ask a question. You made a couple of poorly connected statements and then told me to go learn. So your rudeness was (nearly) matched my my own.

Yes, it would have been better if I had simply not replied at all. Wrestling with pigs and all. But I had to look up the details and it helped me to recall some of my education. I had forgotten that the double positive charge holds the electrons closer to the nucleus. So as you work across the periodic chart the size of the atoms generally gets smaller. The lone electron of atoms in the first column are very loosely held and so the atoms are rather large. Hydrogen can be considered a column 1 element, but because in the first shell there are only two choices, 1 electron or a full shell, so hydrogen is rather a hybrid of column 1 and column 7, is the glass half empty or half full?

So even if you went away mad, I (re)earned something.

If you want people to think you are being serious in a discussion rather than just exercising your rudeness, try actually constructing complete thoughts and end the questions with a question mark. Also, it's better if you don't say rude things like "You need to learn...". How do you talk to people who are standing in front of you?

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On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 2:49:30 AM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 10:23:50 PM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 11:54:41 PM UTC-5, whit3rd wrote:

In theory, a Hydrogen molecule has the same electron structure (two electrons in 1S shell) as Helium,

Not really. He is a single atom so 2 electrons in a single 1S shell. H2 is two atoms sharing 2 electrons between them. Not really the same.

Only approximately the same; an H atom is large while an H2 molecule has
the hybrid orbitals mainly outside the nucleus-nucleus spacing (which is small). The H2 molecule
is nowhere near the size of two H atoms, because the nuclear charge is doubled, just like in He.

Actually, the size of the H2 molecule is very nearly the size of 2 H atoms. I was digging a lot regarding this and it seems the diminishment of the molecular size is very slight in H2. Maybe I found bad references, but that's what they said. 2.10 Å for the H2 molecule and 1.2 Å for the H atom.

Seems the very idea of size in the atomic world is subject to definition and the Van der Walls size is calculated from gas laws rather than measured in a more direct way. There are many other measures of size. But the bottom line is the H2 molecule is large compared to the 1.40 Å of He.

I don't care for the ĂĽngstrĂśm. It doesn't fit the engineering notation format and is not SI. I always have to convert back and forth. But the one reference I found that gave a value for the Van der Waals radius of H2 used it...

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On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 8:39:35 AM UTC-5, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 9:46:30 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d55b77a5-8fec-4aa8-86a3-9b9a6580a000@googlegroups.com:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/a-massive-wind-turbine-colla
pses-in-new-york-city-smashing-car-and-destroying-billboard/


Nice try, Trumpanzee retard. Do you also think they cause cancer?

BTW, that is a teeny tiny privately owned unit, not the ones the
pissy little bitch named Donald J. Trump whines about.

It was not teeny tiny. Who owns it is irrelevant. And being in
a very urban setting, with people living and working nearby is exactly
the kind of setting that Trump whines about. He whines about them
lowering property values when one is put up in your neighborhood.

Yeah, that and cancer. Donald whines about all sorts of things that don't put money in his pockets.

"Lower property values"??? Did you see the neighborhood? I think the three sided billboard kinda gives it a nice touch, don't you?

The massive monopole is actually a bigger eyesore than the windmill you could barely see. I doubt that will be taken down. The cell companies won't allow it.

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