Driver to drive?

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:38:58 +0000, BZ wrote:

My daughter now knows a lot of electronics for a sixth-grader -- in
fact, thanks to this project I think she learned more electronics than
chemistry during this chemistry unit. Her best friend in the class,
meanwhile, is instead learning how hard it is to glue a colored
marshmallow to a piece of poster board.

Confectioners' sugar, water, and cornstarch. ;-)

Congrats on the Atom!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Mark Fergerson]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:34:10 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote:

Scott Stephens wrote:

Once one realizes one has been taken as a sucker, how
much more shall one demand in recompense?

The presumption that those that behave altruistically are
moral fools in a cynical world can only result in the degradation and
destruction of that world.

You're looking at morality and ethics in a very
simplistic way. "Doing good" may involve allowing others to feel small
pain in order that they may learn to avoid great pain.

Frinst, a teacher first strikes a student with the flat
of the sword. The student either learns to parry, or to quit screwing
around with swords.

You're missing one major fundamental difference here:

This particular student signed up, voluntarily, to be slapped by the
instructor.

Inflicting pain against the will of your victim makes you no better
than a common murderer.

You snipped the first part about "turning the other
cheek", which applies to the involuntary case.

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Mark Fergerson]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:10:54 +0000, Jonathan Kirwan wrote:


On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:43:11 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 06:56:57 +0000, Kevin Aylward wrote:


Scott Stephens wrote:

Once one realizes one has been taken as a sucker, how much more shall
one demand in recompense? How less can one be trusted to deliver
value for value in light of being pain in hurt for value?

The presumption that those that behave altruistically are moral fools
in a cynical world can only result in the degradation and destruction
of that world.

May God answer prayers, Jews and Gentiles, Protestant and Catholics,
Theist and Atheist. Its all the same - Predators and Prey playing
silly name-games.

Indeed. Its all Darwinian Evolution.

"That which is mostly observed, is that which replicates the most."

http://www.anasoft.co.uk/replicators/index.html

I really doubt Mr. Darwin had any more of a hand in how the system was
designed than you or I.

I don't understand the relevance of your comment. No one designed the
system. It just evolved.

I suspect Rich was "playing" on what could __appear__ to be the possessive
form of 'Darwinian.' In other words, "Darwinian Evolution" could be read
as meaning "Darwin's Evolution," as though the very processes of nature
were his own.

I think you're pretty close, plus I like to needle anybody who says,
"It's this way, because that's the way it is, and that's that."

I'm more interested in, howcome evolution works the way it does?

What other way could it possibly work?

What's
the motive force that induces subatomic particles to reverse entropy
and achieve a more highly-organized form?

There isn't any, because they don't.

I seem to encounter an uncomfortable silence when I ask things like
that.

Ill-posed questions generally get that kind of response.

Now, ask what induces _molecules_ to do what you described.

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <9riao0laisrqot2u8hqt7o4hhldo5eq89t@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:27:01 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"xray" <notreally@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message

"xray" is a dangerous idiot.
^^^^^^

This was changed by Clarence from the more correct "Bush is a dangerous
idiot". I doubt Xray has enough power to be dangerous. Whether you claim
he is an idiot or not, you can't argue that he is a dangerous one.

Correcting what?

See above.

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[Ken Smith]

In article <dntao01ufsj3f3ieqnjcguio6do6e7vl71@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:00:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


Besides, McCain will be elected in 2008 ;-)

...Jim Thompson


McCain seem to really understand what's important, and to care. My
Commie wife and my Facist self could agree on him.

Which is why he will never get nominated.

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[Ken Smith]

In article <5btao0hpa2jrarnhiv4hjgg1qf9t4mtiat@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:21:13 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:04:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


Me, I think Kerry will be worse than Carter...

Geez, Jim, don't say stuff like that. Halloween is scairy enough.

John


So you remember how bad it was ?

After 8 years of Kerry, Hillary will still be young enough to run for her
8 years. :>

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[john jardine]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:aevao0l2kqceha1itfbcjp3jhgvdaei17k@4ax.com...

Anyone know the history of Increment/Decrement Control loops?

There's a paragraph on page 56 of the October "Microwaves and RF"
magazine about AGCing a VCO using an up/down counter and D-A in an
increment/decrement control... touting it as if it's the next best
thing to sliced bread.

But I hardly think it's novel... I was setting the timing of
automobile ignition systems in 1968, but used a squirt of charge
into/out-of a capacitor to increment/decrement.

The paragraph references an IEEE article in October's "IEEE
Transactions on Instrumentation and Measurement", which I can't access
since I object to $35/month for the privilege (as I noted today as I
renewed my memberships).

Maybe someone who subscribes to that service can look it up?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Sounds pretty much like the old 'huff-and-puff' VFO stabiliser the radio
hams used.
regards
john

 

[Winfield Hill]

Rich Grise wrote...

Now that some serious money is interested in civilian space travel,
how much do you think it would cost to periodically ship some supplies
and stuff up to Hubble?

It sure sounds like Virgin Galactic intends to go to orbit with a craft
that has some respectable capability - it's gotta be cheaper than a
shuttle flight!

I'm sorry, but the maximum velocity achieved by a 3-minute weightless
flight is a _small_ fraction of that needed to obtain even a low orbit.


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Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)

 

[Winfield Hill]

John Larkin wrote...

(Hey, we were up at Cornell last week, visiting The Brat. It was
peak leaf-peeping season, the ducks were ducking, the waterfalls
were waterfalling, and it was beautiful.

We are having s spectacular fall.

The number of Bush signs and Kerry signs in the neighborhood were
pretty near equal.)

Matches the rest of the country I suspect. This is going to be a
real cliffhanger. Walter Cronkite suggested that we'd not know the
winner until next year. Scary!


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Thanks,
- Win

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[Winfield Hill]

Jim Thompson wrote...

McCain seem to really understand what's important, and to care.
My Commie wife and my Facist self could agree on him.

He's been a good Senator for Arizona. I like that he's a moderate.

Well, I voted for Goldwater, and he wasn't exactly a moderate.


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Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)

 

[Robert Monsen]

John S. Dyson wrote:

In article <aC_gd.444451$mD.146769@attbi_s02>,
Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net> writes:

Just saying Moore is a liar because of his opinions is irresponsible,
and shows a lack of judgement, and indeed shows the sort of inability to
discriminate fact from opinion that the right wing political pundits,
and perhaps even the Bush administration, depend on for their survival.


People dont' say that Moore is a liar because of his opinions, but
because of his expert ability to make his opinions appear to be
factual instead of being crafted assertions (superficial lies, in
sync with the leftist superficiality in general.) When seeing the
Moore hit-pieces, it is important to see them in the eyes of an
intelligent person (my own position), and in the eyes of a mind numbed
fool (the Moore/Kerry supporters.) I can only guess that the hit
piece supports the already convinced, helping them to be
ever more set in their opinions. In my case, I do see the Moore-on
dishonesty very clearly, and given the obvious inferior intellect of
the left, see the potential disasterous effect of Moore advocacy and
the Moore-on leftists. Geesh, Moore is even trying to act like
'big brother' at the voting places, and he isn't even influential
directly in the government yet. Imagine the Moore-on police state
that he seems to advocate... I got a small taste of it recently
in the UK, and it is a much less 'pleasant' place than it was 20yrs
ago... Cameras everywhere, even in small towns...

Moore makes a very good use of the documentary style, and that is part
of his lie.

John

Have you actually SEEN Farenheit 9/11?

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Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On 31 Oct 2004 16:58:37 -0800, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote...

McCain seem to really understand what's important, and to care.
My Commie wife and my Facist self could agree on him.

He's been a good Senator for Arizona. I like that he's a moderate.

Well, I voted for Goldwater, and he wasn't exactly a moderate.

Actually he was. LBJ just hyped him up as a danger.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Tom Seim wrote:

Winfield Hill <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<cm39fu01f22@drn.newsguy.com>...

My favorite part: "The Bushies? campaign pitch follows their usual backward
logic: Because we have failed to make you safe in three years, you should
reelect us to make you safer in the next four years."


Makes sense to me. Osama is phoning it in instead of doing what he
would really like: kill as many Americans as possible, you, me, John,
even fredfraud.

Nah- he has so much WMD material now and the US intelligence and
military is so swamped that it has never been easier to attack America.
Of course he can have you as far as I'm concerned- that would be one
beheading video I will enjoy watching.

Wow. I feel safer. Don?t you?


Yes I do. I have no qualms whatsoever about getting on board an
airplane. Last time they searched my computer case because of an
extension cord - and they apologized! Don't bother, I said.

Do you feel different?

Oooh- my God! What a life of danger you lead! You actually boarded an
airplane! You don't say!

 

[Country Loon]

"Winfield Hill" <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:cm39fu01f22@drn.newsguy.com...

My favorite part: "The Bushies’ campaign pitch follows their usual
backward
logic: Because we have failed to make you safe in three years, you should
reelect us to make you safer in the next four years."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/opinion/31dowd.html?
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?section=Opinion&OID=62531

---
MAUREEN DOWD - October 28, 2004 - WASHINGTON -

Some people thought the October surprise would be the President producing
Osama.

Instead, it was Osama producing yet another video taunting the President
and lecturing America.

After bin Laden’s pre-election commentary from his anchor desk at a
secure,
undisclosed location, many TV chatterers and Republicans postulated that
the evildoer’s campaign intrusion would help the President.

OBL, they said, might reelect W.

They follow the Bush strategists’ reasoning that since President Bush
rates
higher than John Kerry on fighting terror, anytime Americans get rattled
about Iraq and al-Qaeda, it’s a plus for the President. And Republicans
can
keep claiming that al-Qaeda wants the “weak” Democrat elected, even as
some
intelligence experts suggest the terrorists prefer that the belligerent
Mr. Bush stay in power because he has been a boon to jihadist recruiting,
with his disastrous occupation of Iraq and his true believer,
us-versus-them,
my-Christian-God’s-directing-my-foreign-policy vibe.

The Bushies’ campaign pitch follows their usual backward logic: Because
we have failed to make you safe, you should reelect us to make you safer.
Because we haven’t caught Osama in three years, you need us to catch
Osama
in the next four years. Because we didn’t bother to secure explosives in
Iraq, you can count on us to make sure those explosives aren’t used
against
you.

You’d think that seeing Osama looking fit as a fiddle and ready for hate
would spark anger at the Bush administration’s cynical diversion of the
war
on al-Qaeda to the war on Saddam. It’s absurd that we’re mired in Iraq —
an invasion the demented Vice President praised on Friday for its
“brilliance” — while the 9/11 mastermind nonchalantly pops up anytime he
wants. For some, it seemed cartoonish, with Osama as Road Runner beeping
by Wile E. Bush as Dick Cheney and Rummy run the Acme/Halliburton
explosives
company—now under FBI investigation for its no-bid contracts on anvils,
axle
grease (guaranteed slippery) and dehydrated boulders (just add water).

Osama slouched onto TV bragging about pulling off the 9/11 attacks just
after the President strutted onto TV in New Hampshire with 9/11 families,
bragging that al-Qaeda leaders know “we are on their trail.”

Maybe bin Laden hasn’t gotten the word. Maybe W. should get off the
trail
and get on Osama’s tail.

W. was clinging to his inane mantra that if we fight the terrorists over
there, we don’t have to fight them here, even as bin Laden was back on TV
threatening to come here. The President still avoided using Osama’s name
on Friday, part of the concerted effort to downgrade him and merge him
with
Iraqi insurgents.

The White House reaction to the disclosures about the vanished explosives
in Iraq was typical. Though it’s clear the treasures and terrors of
Iraq —
from viruses to ammunition to artifacts—were being looted and loaded into
donkey carts and pickups because we had insufficient troops to secure the
country, Bush officials devoted the vast resources of the government to
trying to undermine the facts to protect the President.

The Pentagon mobilized to debunk the bunker story with a tortured press
conference and a satellite photo of trucks that proved about as much as
Colin Powell’s prewar drawings of two trailers that were supposed to be
mobile biological weapons labs.

Republicans insinuated that it was a plot by foreign internationalists to
help the foreigner-loving, internationalist Kerry, a UN leak from the
camp
of Mohamed ElBaradei to hurt the administration that had scorned the UN
as
a weak sister.

In their ruthless determination to put Mr. Bush’s political future ahead
of
our future safety, the White House and House Republicans last week
thwarted
the enactment of recommendations of the 9/11 commission they never wanted
in the first place.

While pretending to be serious about getting a bill on reorganizing
intelligence agencies before the election, the White House never forced
congressional Republicans to come to an agreement. So the advice from
the
panel that spent 19 months studying how the government could shore up
intelligence so there wouldn’t be another 9/11 may be squandered, even
though Dick Cheney’s favorite warning to scare voters away from Mr. Kerry
is that we might someday face terrorists “in the middle of one of our
cities
with deadlier weapons than have ever before been used against us,”
including
a nuclear bomb.

Wow. I feel safer. Don’t you?


--
Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)

Osama - I thought it was Sadaam who was responsible for 911 - he is just
taking all the credit!


Tom

 

[Pooh Bear]

Ken Smith wrote:

In article <41845127.3BF5FAA8@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Ken Smith wrote:

The real reason for the shortage is that any left overs can't be sold so
to maximize profits, they try to make just exactly the amount they expect
to sell. When one maker has trouble, there will be a shortage. Unless
the government funds surplus production, this is the way it will be
forever.

Stockpiling doesn't work for flu vaccines since the viruses 'in the wild'
vary from year to year and the flu vaccine vendors alter their product to
suit.

Yes, I agree. That's why I said "over production" and not stockpiling.
It is something that would have to be paid for every year to defend
against the bad years. This is exactly the sort of "common good" function
that governments are intended for.

Including the US Gov't ? ;-)

Private businesses optimize for profit. This is local optimization and
sometimes leads to a non-optimal
global situation.

Just like PC viruses and why you have to update your definition files.

You could switch to Linux. It has independant read, write and execute
permissions. This makes amuch larger barrier to infection than the Windos
permissions do. It is more like the human immune system where there are
multiple layers of defences.

Although you are then limited to Linux apps. Dunno about Lindows ( or whatever
Microsoft have legally forced them to change their name to ).

I'm OK ". My own AV vendor currently offers an update more typically twice
daily on average.

You can also help things out by changing a few settings. If you make it
so that Open-Office and not Word is fired up when you have a *.doc file
and things like that you can foil many of the attacks that expect a
standard windows system. This works even before the anti-virus company
knows about the virus.

Good point about the fact that the AV can never ever be totally up to date.

I avoid some of the commonner problems by avoiding the use of Microsoft products
like the vile Word.

A firewall can be useful in preventing trojans too.

For reasons that have nothing to do with the network computer, the desk
top at work is positioned so that I can get at the connectors on the back.
When I hear mumblings about a new Worm, I unplug the network. I can do
that because not much of my work needs the network connection.

Likewise - I can switch off my ADSL router.


Graham

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:30:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On 31 Oct 2004 16:58:37 -0800, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote...

McCain seem to really understand what's important, and to care.
My Commie wife and my Facist self could agree on him.

He's been a good Senator for Arizona. I like that he's a moderate.

Well, I voted for Goldwater, and he wasn't exactly a moderate.

Actually he was. LBJ just hyped him up as a danger.

Yeah. Johnson warned America that if Goldwater was elected, he'd
bomb north Vietnam.

After Johnson started bombing north Vietnam, they mentioned it on
"That was the week that was."

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Allan Herriman]

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:09:23 GMT, sg0ldo1867@yahoo.com (Stephan
Goldstein) wrote:

snippage of discussion regarding the availability of 24-bit audio dacs
with 100dB SNR for use in MP3-players>....

Um, perhaps my question is a little obtuse, but *why*? I was under the
impression that MP3 was a lossy compression and that the sound quality
was not as good as a standard CD under the best of conditions. If true,
wouldn't a CD-quality audio dac be a bit of a waste?

You may want to implement a digital volume control, in which case the
volume control range gets subtracted from the dynamic range of the
DAC.

Regards,
Allan

 

[YD]

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:01:53 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:11:37 -0300, YD wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:04:32 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

snipps


Hey, Win, would you mind if I snipped chapters from AoE and published
them here?

John


Yes, please. I'm not quite affording it just yet. Could you please scan
and put it up as PDFs?


So, you intend thievery to make some point?

Uh-oh... I was just kidding around a bit. The proposed thievery was
from John's side, my egging him on was just pulling his leg. I do
intend to buy a paper copy ASAP but being overseas there's a bit of
added cost.

Maybe, drive home the point that the neocons have the power to take
whatever they want, and their victims have no recourse?

Well, I don't doubt they might try to do that, as some recent
shenanigans seem to indicate. Not being one I wouldn't know
personally.

Why does this not surprise me? Your ilk clearly do not know right from
wrong.

You seem to have my ilk confused with some other.

Bush is a dangerous liar.

Totally agree on that one. Looks like most of the rest of world does
so too.

Thanks,
Rich

- YD.

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[Clarence]

"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4185A64F.2D0CE72F@hotmail.com...

Ken Smith wrote:

In article <41845127.3BF5FAA8@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

snip

Although you are then limited to Linux apps. Dunno about Lindows ( or
whatever
Microsoft have legally forced them to change their name to ).

"Linspire" But Microsoft forced them to change it by filing hundreds of law
suits in every country the sell in, because Microsoft LOST in the US!

Typical criminal behavior for BG and his thugs!

 

[Terry Given]

terry wrote:

Hi,

I want to interface from a MCU to a large memory IC (1M-16M bytes)
using small number of pins (such as I2C or SPI) to store records. Is
there such type of memory IC in the world?

Thanks!

use a USB micro such as TUSB3210, and buy one of those cute little
flash-sticks. 4 wires.....and you can get 512Mb flash sticks

Cheers
Terry