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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 05:09:55 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

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Sorry for my poor aim. Hmm. You are the victim of collateral damage in
Rich Grise's attack on John Larkin's apparent preference for nazi
rulership.

Sorry!
Rich

Remember, Bush is a dangerous liar!
That's 'k then, it's not the first time my tongue-in-cheek has
back-fired. I keep forgetting those damn smileys. Personally I think
Kerry is just as stupid as Bush but less evil. And how much corruption
can there be in a ketchup empire?

- YD.
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In article <6c71b322.0410312151.465238f6@posting.google.com>,
soar2morrow@yahoo.com (Tom Seim) writes:
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.31.22.56.54.972081@example.net>...
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 11:32:18 -0800, Tom Seim wrote:

Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:<4184575C.9050007@nospam.com>...
John S. Dyson wrote:
In article <pan.2004.10.31.00.39.37.65747@example.net>,
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> writes:

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:44:57 -0700, Tom Seim wrote:

That's ok, you've been blaming Bush for everything but daylight
savings time anyhow.

Show me.


The 'YOU' is the collect 'YOU' of American-style, Al Queda supporting
leftism. That is mostly a cabal of liars, with people like Soros
interjecting, funding and polluting political discussion with hate
speech. If you notice, Soros is the kind who wishes to 'change' or
modify the status-quo, and his power mad mentality has lots of
followers... Kerry is yet another spawn of evil intent (and I am NOT
EVEN RELIGIOUS!!!)

John


Maybe- but Bush is a dangerous idiot and a liar.

And who better to know than another dangerous idiot and liar.

Apparently, one who is not.

Thanks, dupe.
Rich

Oh really?

Just listened to Kerry admit to atrocities in Vietnam this morning on
Meet the Press. Who is being duped by whom?

Yes, I heard it also... He said (paraphrased), that some attrocities
(war crimes) happened in Vietnam, and he said that he participated in
some also.

There were a couple of cases where Kerry had either admitted or strongly
implied his complicity in war crimes. It is proven that Kerry is either
an admitted war criminal or a liar about very important issues.

John
 
In article <pan.2004.11.01.08.09.11.173731@example.net>,
Rich Grise <rich@example.net> writes:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:01:45 +0000, Ken Smith wrote:

In article <6c71b322.0410312151.465238f6@posting.google.com>,
Tom Seim <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Just listened to Kerry admit to atrocities in Vietnam this morning on
Meet the Press. Who is being duped by whom?

I heard the same show. Clean the wax out of your ears.


It's not the wax in his ears that's distorting his perceptions -
it's the hate in his heart.

Again, Kerry said that there were some war crimes in Vietnam, and
that he must admit that the was involved in some also (paraphrased.)
You can misinterpret his claims, but they were quite clear for the
unbiased that Kerry is an admitted war criminal or a liar.

For the 'wax', it would be a good idea to clean it out of your ears,
and for hatred, it is those who wish to 'throw' Bush out of office
who are so tied up with hate.

John
 
Pooh Bear wrote:

May God answer prayers, Jews and Gentiles, Protestant and Catholics,
Theist and Atheist. Its all the same - Predators and Prey playing silly
name-games.


You realise you've been taken for a sucker and turn to *God* ? Religion is
the ultimate suck.
Perhaps its linguistics, or deficiencies in communication channels that
permit deceit that really sucks.

--
Scott

**********************************

DIY Piezo-Gyro, PCB Drill Bot & More Soon!

http://home.comcast.net/~scottxs/

POLITICS, n.
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

**********************************
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 05:40:38 GMT, Scott Stephens <scottxs@comcast.net
wrote:


Once one realizes one has been taken as a sucker, how much more shall
one demand in recompense?


And, more important, how the hell are you going to collect?
Patience, faith, hope, and love for the values that have been violated,
the manifestation of which is incandescent hatred. I have the motive,
perhaps the means, only opportunity lacks.

It will be via omission, not commission, so I can give God the glory for
the justice of not doing it :)


--
Scott

**********************************

DIY Piezo-Gyro, PCB Drill Bot & More Soon!

http://home.comcast.net/~scottxs/

POLITICS, n.
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

**********************************
 
Winfield Hill wrote:

My favorite part: "The Bushies’ campaign pitch follows their usual backward
logic: Because we have failed to make you safe in three years, you should
reelect us to make you safer in the next four years."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/opinion/31dowd.html?
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?section=Opinion&OID=62531

---
MAUREEN DOWD - October 28, 2004 - WASHINGTON -

Some people thought the October surprise would be the President producing
Osama.

Instead, it was Osama producing yet another video taunting the President
and lecturing America.

After bin Laden’s pre-election commentary from his anchor desk at a secure,
undisclosed location, many TV chatterers and Republicans postulated that
the evildoer’s campaign intrusion would help the President.
Possibly.
I strongly suspect that OBL wants Bush in charge rather than Kerry.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
Scott Stephens wrote:

http://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-poison30.html

BY ANNIE SWEENEY Staff Reporter



"

There's bitter coffee.

And then there's bitter revenge.

...

Kemarat Vathananand, a pollution control operator at Schiller
Park-based Castle Metal Finishing Corp., allegedly put lead acetate,
sodium dimethyldithiocarbamate and urine in the coffeepots because he
was angry at a vice president of the company who told him he could
not drink coffee in the shop area, investigators said

...

Schiller Park Police installed a hidden camera at the company Oct.
19, and just over a week later, Vathananand was captured on tape
pouring something into the coffee maker, Stanton said.

"

I heard on TV that he was mad because his boss reprimanded him for not
using a lid on his coffee, while his boss strolled around without a lid
on his coffee.

But there is always more frustration and malice behind such actions.
Usually everyone is ganging up an bullying somebody, and everyone gets
so surprised when their whipping boy finally blows up and goes postal.

"

And should a great injustice befall you, then do quickly five small ones
besides. Hideous to behold is he on whom injustice presseth alone.

Did ye ever know this? Shared injustice is half justice. And he who can
bear it, shall take the injustice upon himself!

A small revenge is humaner than no revenge at all. And if the punishment
be not also a right and an honour to the transgressor, I do not like your
punishing.

...

Finally, my brethren, guard against doing wrong to any anchorite. How
could an anchorite forget! How could he requite!

Like a deep well is an anchorite. Easy is it to throw in a stone: if it
should sink to the bottom, however, tell me, who will bring it out again?

Guard against injuring the anchorite! If ye have done so, however, well
then, kill him also!--

Thus spake Zarathustra.


-Project Gutenberg Etext of Thus Spake Zarathustra, by Nietzsche
Just use phenolpthalein


--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
Chris Carlen wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote...

Me, I think Kerry will be worse than Carter... but actually I don't
care, my assets and income are well-protected, and you Democrats need
a hard-ball lesson... maybe we can kill off the Democrat Party during
the resulting depression.

You still think eight glorious fiscal years under Clinton, during which
you and I did very well, were all due to what he inherited upon coming
to office? I think if Kerry is elected the country will do very well,
and I think investors and advanced technocrats such as yourself will do
exceedingly well. However, I suspect you'll still be pissed and unhappy.

Win, you should really do some reading about the macroeconomic
situation, and not from the same old liberal sources. ...
Chris, I am an experienced businessman (15 years) and a longtime student
of the economy. I do not get my opinions from "the same old liberal
sources" as you put it, but from a broad range of observations, tuned by
my own experience and understanding.

Interestingly, it predicted that *both* would make the economy worse
than if we simply changed nothing at all from this point forward. You
might be pleased to know however, that Bush's plan was estimated to
make things more worse than Kerry's.
Bush, I suspect, if elected, will continue in his ruinous policies, and
enhance them for further damage. Kerry would most certainly NOT continue
with nothing changed from this point forward.

As a country we face some rather serious difficulties in competing on the
world-wide labor market with high-quality workers who work at low wages.
Bush will not solve that problem. We had the same problem when Clinton
was in office, but we also got a glimpse of a part of the solution at work,
which is to change the playing field for the overseas participants, and to
force them to compete with us in new areas that we create, in which they
have to play catchup. This cannot be accomplished by pandering to the
established powers, as Bush and the Republican-controlled congress do, but
instead by creating an environment of hope and excitement that encourages
new out-of-the box thinking and and creative business startups, etc. This
is what Clinton did. As a societal mood, it's not something that's well
understood or accurately measured by the same old conservative economic
analysts you customarily turn to.

When as a country we are focused on the positive things in life, treating
our society well, etc., rather than the negative, war, intolerance, moral
control over others, police power, more power to wealthy people and large
corporations, damaging the environment, etc., etc., that's when America's
creative juices of start flowing, and when our amazing creative wellsprings
open up and begin pouring out. This is a reality I have repeatedly seen
and experienced first hand among my friends.

Whether your average conservative admits it or not, that's what we had under
Clinton, and we can get it back I believe, but not under four more years of
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, and Ashcroft <shudder>.

When as a country we are riding the wild horses of creativity, there are
certainly ups and downs. The dot-com bust is an example, which can hurt
us if when improperly handled. Bush and his cronies have absolutely no
idea of how to ride that wild horse, how to get back in the saddle, how to
urge on the rest of the pack. Instead they pander to our societies worst
instincts. This is not an environment in which we feel and are creative.

As one small example of our country's mood, I offer the plight of our
airlines. It's now clear that we are not collectively afraid of flying.
Yet even though tickets are dirt cheap, our flying miles as a society are
way down in the last few years. We simply don't feel like traveling, our
exuberance is badly damaged. The police-state environment we encounter
when traveling does not help. Excuse me, it does not help our security to
break off the nail-cleaning blade of a passenger's finger-nail clipper,
but it certainly sends a message that small minds are in control, and we
had better h8hunker down. Unfortunately that attitude spreads throughout
our collective psyche, and our creativity and willingness to take business
risks is suppressed.


--
Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
 
"terry" <leonlai2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9904d48.0411010208.19334dab@posting.google.com...
Hi,

I have heard that CR2032 can be charged. Is it true?

Thanks!
Don't bet your house on it !!

--
Regards ........... Rheilly Phoull
 
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:08:14 +0000, in sci.electronics.design you
wrote:

I am putting together a table of prefixes and suffixes used to
designate named powers of ten. I would very much appreciate it
if someone would look the table over and see if I made any
silly errors, and would especially appreciate any suggestions
for filling in the entries marked "???". Thanks!


The one I like is the Planck Second, apparently the shortest
measurement of time (I found it in one of John Gribbin's books)
from
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt|search_for=universal_in!
Planck time
Value 5.391 21 x 10-44 s
Standard uncertainty 0.000 40 x 10-44 s
Relative standard uncertainty 7.5 x 10-5

dunno what it means though!




martin

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
 
terry wrote...
I have heard that CR2032 can be charged. Is it true?
Not according to eemb's 16-page datasheet.

http://eemb.com
http://eemb.com/product/MnO2/cr2032.htm
http://eemb.com/PDF/CR2032%20Brief.pdf

Terry, I have a 16-page datasheet, but couldn't find it on
eemb's website. I'll post it on abse for you. You may also
be able to find datasheets from other manufacturers using a
Google search.



--
Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
 
Winfield Hill wrote:

As one small example of our country's mood, I offer the plight of our
airlines. It's now clear that we are not collectively afraid of flying.
Yet even though tickets are dirt cheap, our flying miles as a society are
way down in the last few years. We simply don't feel like traveling, our
exuberance is badly damaged. The police-state environment we encounter
when traveling does not help. Excuse me, it does not help our security to
break off the nail-cleaning blade of a passenger's finger-nail clipper,
but it certainly sends a message that small minds are in control, and we
had better h8hunker down. Unfortunately that attitude spreads throughout
our collective psyche, and our creativity and willingness to take business
risks is suppressed.
You've probably hearde it before, but that is a perfect example of the small
minds at work, as well as big business.
While they are breaking off the nailfile they are allowing people to take glass
bottles of flammable liquid abourd as hand luggage (Duty Free).

Seems money once again trumps real security, which reveals that its just window
dressing for the dummies.

Would you rather face a crazed passenger with a nailfile in his hand, or a
broken bottle in one and a firebomb in the other?

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:22:03 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
<g4fgq.regp@ZZZbtinternet.com> wrote:

I vaguely remember seing "femto", as in very teeny femto-farads.

What happened to that nice-sounding name? How many tens?
It still crops up quite frequently in Spice modelling. One femtofarad
is equivalent to 0.001pF
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.
 
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:08:14 +0000, Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:

NAMED POWERS OF TEN - UK VERSION
-------------------------------
U ??? 1.0E+36 sextillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000000 000 000 000
V vendeka- 1.0E+33 ??? 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000000 000 000
W ??? 1.0E+30 quintillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000000 000
X xenna- 1.0E+27 ??? 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000000
Y yotta- 1.0E+24 quadrillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
Z zetta- 1.0E+21 ??? 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
E exa- 1.0E+18 trillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000
P peta- 1.0E+15 ??? 1 000 000 000 000 000
T tera- 1.0E+12 billion 1 000 000 000 000
The UK Billion is now the same as yours (1,000,000,000)
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.
 
sPoNiX wrote...
Crown Castle had a major fire at their Morborne site on Saturday night
which resulted in the collapse of the transmitter mast!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cambridgeshire/3970807.stm
Whew, that doesn't look very easy to fix, not quickly anyway!


--
Thanks,
- Win

(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
 
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:41864BF8.4000201@nospam.com...

landing and someone will be on you:) But I enjoy the feel of large
groups of heavily armed security- so it is no bother to me.
.... Until that fateful day you need a tissue from your breast pocket
(because carrying it in any other pocket gets it trapped under the seatbelt)
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:29ico05m8agt7jvbonj4bs67iu25egb7bo@4ax.com...

Do you live in a news-restricted world?
Errr... I cannot watch Porn on the corp. net. If that is what you mean?
 
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:05:07 +0100, "Frithiof Andreas Jensen"
<frithiof.jensen@die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:29ico05m8agt7jvbonj4bs67iu25egb7bo@4ax.com...

Do you live in a news-restricted world?

Errr... I cannot watch Porn on the corp. net. If that is what you mean?
Idiot! You said, "Osama is long dead". Seems you are misinformed.

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:aukco01io185j3g24bh0301l5qe418se8n@4ax.com...

Idiot! You said, "Osama is long dead". Seems you are misinformed.
Fool! Seems you'll buy anything just because it's on TeeVee.
 
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:09:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:18:01 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Anyone know the history of Increment/Decrement Control loops?

There's a paragraph on page 56 of the October "Microwaves and RF"
magazine about AGCing a VCO using an up/down counter and D-A in an
increment/decrement control... touting it as if it's the next best
thing to sliced bread.

But I hardly think it's novel... I was setting the timing of
automobile ignition systems in 1968, but used a squirt of charge
into/out-of a capacitor to increment/decrement.

The paragraph references an IEEE article in October's "IEEE
Transactions on Instrumentation and Measurement", which I can't access
since I object to $35/month for the privilege (as I noted today as I
renewed my memberships).

Maybe someone who subscribes to that service can look it up?

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson

Try looking for "single-speed floating control". I think it's a really
old and not-so-great control strategy.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
I thought it worked rather well. My scheme looked at dwell, decided
if it was early or late and moved a threshold accordingly... this
happened _after_ firing so was not subject to noise from the spark.

Just like having an elf sitting there turning a knob just a small
amount after each firing ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 

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