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On Mar 12, 11:14 am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
PD wrote:
That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.
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the knoledge its the standard model!
it has to be verified by observation.
no other cyclotron can reproduce
as close as posible the conditions of the bb

i can agree with you that there are many more
creative ways to proceed when you have
money limitations and that can be directly applied
to engineering even when the results are not
shown on a screen by a detector.

but it will be nice to hear and see them.

regards
r.y
 
John Tserkezis wrote:
On 12/03/2010 8:30 PM, Richard Dobson wrote:

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
April 1st!

I'm waiting for the black hole to form, subsequently selectively
sucking up all the kooks.
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Long ago in a galaxy far away....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSkyEyBczU

I actually have the Epi Les Paul gold sparkletop based on that Guild.

--
Les Cargill
 
I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-...

Best regards, Ivan.  http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

The energies that they can create are microscopic compared to a
healthy cosmic ray.

CERN : 3.5e12 ev per particle

GOD  : 3e20 ev per particle

That last number packs about 50 joules into what is probably *one*
proton.
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Existence of high energy cosmic rays (protons or ions) does not give
any guarantee that the same particle collisions are safe at head-on
colliders.

Indeed dangerous particle condensate (Condensate) can be created at
both cases.

It is obvious that Condensate has its rest energy and binding energy.

It was proved that total binding energy of Condensate is smaller than
kinetic energy of atmospheric particles in the system of Condensate,
if it was created by collision of cosmic particle with atmospheric
one. Consequently, cosmo-atmospheric Condensate would be ruined
immediately. But collider Condensate will not be ruined and it can
grow, if this growth is permitted by physical laws.

Till now there were theoretically described several types of
Condensates: pion condensate, stranglet, magnetized vacuum, magnetic
vacuum domain, magnetic holes and so on. In fact, the mentioned types
of condensates are different approximations to one and the same
Condensate, which can be created in Nature or in a physical
experiment. These approximations were grounded on different types of
forces. I tried to investigate Condensate, which is connected
presumably by magnetic forces. Now I can see that my results coincide
quite good with the results, received in the investigations of
Condensate, connected by pions (pion condensate, Migdal), gluon
condensate (Savvidy), sea quark-antiquark pairs, strange quarks...

The main conclusion: Condensate can be created at particle collision
with energy of about 1-TeV per particle.

It is clear, at least for me, that microscopic droplet of Condensate
will be created very soon at LHC. This can lead to further rapid
explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.

So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as scientists.
 
Magnetic wrote:
[...]

explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.
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In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.

I've read the Wikipedia article on /mens rea/ :
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea > .

/Mens rea/ is Latin and translates to "guilty mind".

So it's up to you to come up with some "guilty mind" argument.
I don't see any "intent to destroy the Earth", or anything of the sort.

David Bernier
 
On 13/03/2010 7:46 PM, David Bernier wrote:

In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.
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Perhaps, but it doesn't matter. "Magnetic" is a kook, and hopefully,
as per my original statement, one of the collisions will cause a black
hole to form, sucking in all these kooks. Then they won't matter anymore.

Either that, or it will create a rip in the space-time continuum,
creating a wormhole if you will, between us and some random alien universe.

And in *that* case, I want to welcome our new visitors, and suggest
they start with a small meal after their long journey - of some very
tasty kooks.
 
On Mar 13, 10:46 am, David Bernier <david...@videotron.ca> wrote:
Magnetic wrote:

[...]

explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.

In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.

I've read the Wikipedia article on /mens rea/ :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea> .

/Mens rea/ is Latin and translates to "guilty mind".

So it's up to you to come up with some "guilty mind"  argument.
I don't see any "intent to destroy the Earth", or anything of the sort.

David Bernier
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David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the Earth",
then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.
You can not give any guarantee that some of these reactions will not
explode the Earth.

b/ Magnetic hole:

Creation:
p + p --> p + p + M;

Grouth
M{n} + p = M{n+1} + e+ + 300 MeV,
M{n+1} + p = M{n+2} + e+ + 300 MeV,
....
....
....
Extremely powerful explosion.
-------------------------

b/ Pure strange matter:

Creation:
p + p --> p + p + N + N~;
Growth:
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K+ = (N+1)(uds) + e+ + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K0 = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
....
....
....
Extremely powerful explosion.
------------------------

b/ Mixed strange matter.

Several combinations from equal\proportional numbers of neutrons and
hyperons.
--------------------------------

Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
 
Magnetic wrote:

Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living

BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
living"

VLV
 
John Tserkezis wrote:
On 13/03/2010 7:46 PM, David Bernier wrote:

In my opinion, calling people "criminal" is a very serious accusation.

Perhaps, but it doesn't matter. "Magnetic" is a kook, and hopefully,
as per my original statement, one of the collisions will cause a black
hole to form, sucking in all these kooks. Then they won't matter anymore.

Either that, or it will create a rip in the space-time continuum,
creating a wormhole if you will, between us and some random alien universe.

And in *that* case, I want to welcome our new visitors, and suggest
they start with a small meal after their long journey - of some very
tasty kooks.
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When nothing happens, he will be blaming them for all the runaway
Toyotas.


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
 
Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote:
Magnetic wrote:


Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living

BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
living"
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Make sure you read it when you're done.


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
 
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:09:08 -0800 (PST), Magnetic
<magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:


So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as scientists.
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And when it doesn't come to pass what will you do?

JF
 
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:34:48 -0800 (PST), Magnetic
<magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:


Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”
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I'd say that your admitted desire and willingness to kill those who are
attempting to advance the worlds store of knowledge speaks volumes about
who is a psychopath, a criminal, and an idiot.


JF
 
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:21:40 -0600, Vladimir Vassilevsky
<nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:

Magnetic wrote:


Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living

BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
living"
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An autobiography, no doubt?
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Sorry, just couldn't resist! :)



JF
 
John Fields wrote:

On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:21:40 -0600, Vladimir Vassilevsky
nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:



Magnetic wrote:


Probability of Earth Explosion is extremely high.

I would kill your Rolf Heuer today, but he is very far from me.

I don’t want that you and your criminal physicists kill me and my
relatives.

I repeat: “David Bernier, if you don't see any "intent to destroy the
Earth", then you and such blind as you are criminals and idiots.”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Stop_Worrying_and_Start_Living

BTW, I am tempted to write a book "How to stop being an idiot and start
living"


---
An autobiography, no doubt?
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No. A plan for future :)

VLV
 
On 3/13/10 5:19 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
im sure the lhc is in
BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger
than this.
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The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those
of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12
orders of magnitude greater than the LHC.
 
On Mar 12, 11:55 am, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.
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i dont believe in "Bigger Is Better"
but ONLY in the case of cyclotrons. im sure the lhc is in
BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger
than this.

if there is, then the whole approach
we know of particle physics reaserch is going
through a dead end and the only way
out its with a new approach.

r.y
 
Magnetic wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:



I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize
there is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your
fears irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.
Click to expand...
What your saying is that you have a 50% chance to be wrong... so when you
are you can use the power of probability to validate your claim and still be
right?
 
On Mar 13, 4:09 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/13/10 5:19 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:

  im sure the lhc is in
BB territory. there is NO need to ever go bigger
than this.

   The LHC temps are many orders of magnitude below those
   of the very early universe. Even cosmic rays are 6-12
   orders of magnitude greater than the LHC.
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just like thunder is as hot as the surface
of the sun, if you where to compare the highest temps
on the lhc with the lowest temps stages of the bb
how much will the diference be?

remember that in the lhc its only for
a fraction of a second.

r.y
 
On 3/13/10 7:36 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:

just like thunder is as hot as the surface
of the sun, if you where to compare the highest temps
on the lhc with the lowest temps stages of the bb
how much will the diference be?
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Thunder (sound) doesn't exhibit much of a temperature increase
in and of itself. The energy of an average 3 mile-long lightning
strike is one billion to ten billion joules--6.24 x 10^16 TeV, but
spread out over much greater time and space as compared to a 7 TeV
proton-proton collision.
 
The behavior of dangerous condensate, which are bombarded by eV or TeV
particles, is analogues to behavior of another condensate – nucleus,
consisting of protons and antiprotons. Let’s suppose that atmosphere
consists of protons and stable neutrons.

It is theoretically permitted that in the collision of cosmic proton
and atmospheric proton, some number (n) of pairs of nuclei and
antinuclei were created. Let the nucleus is Hg; the antinucleus is
Hg~.

Answer the questions, if you are a physicist, on the following
questions:
1. What is the minimal energy of cosmic proton in order to make a
reaction:
p+p+?TeV= n(Hg+Hg~).
2. What is the kinetic energy of protons of atmosphere relatively
these “cosmo-atmospheric” Hg packs of nuclei and antinueclei?
3. What will happen to nuclei? Will they grow or will be ruined?

And the same questions for the same reaction on collider.

Are consequences for condensates, created at “cosmo-atmospheric”
collision, analogues to that, which were made on the collider?

Dangerous condensates:

1/ Magnetic hole.
Creation:
p + p + ? TeV = p + p + M_{n}
Growth:
M_{n} + p = M_{n+1} + e^{+} + 300 MeV,
M_{n+1} + p = M_{n+2} + e^{+} + 300 MeV,
…
Explosion of Earth.
…

2/ Pure strange matter.
Creation:
p + p + ?TeV = p + p + N(uds) + N(u~d~s~)
Growth:
N(uds) + p = (N+1)(uds) + K^{+} = (N+1)(uds) + e^{+} + 500 MeV.
(N+1)(uds) + n = (N+2)(uds) + K^{0} = (N+2)(uds) + 500 MeV.
…
Explosion of Earth.
…

3/ Mixed subnuclear condensates.
…
Explosion of Earth.
…
 
Here is not complete list of your potential killers: 2003 J.-P.
Blaizot, J. Iliopoulos, J. Madsen, G.G. Ross, P. Sonderegger, H.-J.
Specht. 2008 John Ellis, Gian Giudice, Michelangelo Mangano, Igor
Tkachev, and Urs Wiedemann. And of course, Rolf Heuer, director of
CERN, who neglects the opinion of physicists, saying about dangers of
LHC.
The crudest error, made by them, is equating of the consequences of
collider collisions with cosmo-atmospheric collisions. To see the
difference between these consequences look my model with two 10-kg
bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle, corresponding to
cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle, corresponding to LHC
collisions, will transform the town into Hiroshima.
Here are some CERN addresses. Write them and demand to stop the
Collider. Otherwise they kill us all with probability about several
dozens of percents.
rolf.heuer(at)cern.ch, cern.reception(at)cern.ch,
visits.service(at)cern.ch, press.office(at)cern.ch,
john.ellis(at)cern.ch, jean-pierre.koutchouk(at)cern.ch

rudiger.voss(at)cern.ch, patricia.mage(at)cern.ch,
felicitas.pauss(at)cern.ch, external.relations(at)cern.ch, council-
president(at)cern.ch, fc-chairman(at)cern.ch, spc-chairman(at)cern.ch,
scientific-secretary(at)cern.ch, council-secretariat(at)cern.ch

Here are some phones of your potential killers:

CERN CH-1211 Genčve 23 Switzerland. +41 22 76 761 11
Organisation Européenne pour la Recherche Nucléaire F-01631 CERN Cedex
France Telephone Switchboard: +41 22 76 761 11 Central Fax: +41 22 76
765 55
Visitors Reception. Telephone number:+41 22 76 766 49
Visits Service. Telephone number: +41 22 767 8484, Fax: +41 22 767
8710
Press Office. Telephone number: 41 22 767 3432 / 2141 Fax: +41 22 785
0247

Stop global suicide!
 
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