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[Magnetic]

On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:



I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-latest-news.html

Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

 

[Richard Dobson]

On 12/03/2010 08:02, Magnetic wrote:
...

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
April 1st!

Richard Dobson

 

[John Tserkezis]

On 12/03/2010 8:30 PM, Richard Dobson wrote:

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
April 1st!

I'm waiting for the black hole to form, subsequently selectively
sucking up all the kooks.

 

[Uncle Al]

Magnetic wrote:
[snip crap]

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.
[snip rest of crap]

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>

idiot

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 2:02 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe..

This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

The problem is, the probability is not that high.

There is always risk in anything that anybody does. It is risky to
walk to the bathroom in the morning. However, the risk is small.

Nobody can assure you that what physicists do is COMPLETELY without
risk. But the risk is very, very, very, very, very small. And you're
going to have to live with that.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Yes, and you're going to see on April 1 that you are still alive. Why
would you live your life in fear, when you can get treatment and have
the fears disappear?

Look plan-link at the page:http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-...

Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Tserkezis wrote:

On 12/03/2010 8:30 PM, Richard Dobson wrote:

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

I am sure we will all look forward to your next set of predictions on
April 1st!

I'm waiting for the black hole to form, subsequently selectively
sucking up all the kooks.

The kooks already suck. I'm amazed they have time to troll, with all
their sucking.


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

 

[Tim Wescott]

Magnetic wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:



I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.
This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-latest-news.html

Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

 

[Sam Wormley]

On 3/12/10 12:12 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

CORRECTED LHC Web-cams
http://www.lhc.ac.uk/web-cams.html

 

[Vladimir Vassilevsky]

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

VLV

 

[Vladimir Vassilevsky]

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

VLV


That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.

VLV

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 12:12 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.now> wrote:

Magnetic wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe..
This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-...

Best regards, Ivan.  http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Oh now you've done it. Those videos were supposed to be secret.

 

[Vladimir Vassilevsky]

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.


On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.

Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.

VLV

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:
Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

VLV

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

VLV

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.

On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.

Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 1:55 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.

On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.

Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.

What would constitute conclusiveness to you? A final theory? Why?

No one has ever said that the Tevatron design was wrong and
insufficient. It did exactly what it was intended to do, and it also
produced more physics than what was ever anticipated at the time it
was built. Nevertheless, what we learned as a *result* of the Tevatron
pointed us clearly toward the new physics that would have to be found
at the LHC.

Is it your aspiration that one day we would be DONE, having nothing
further to learn, and so nothing more to explore? Why on earth would
you want that?

PD

 

[Vladimir Vassilevsky]

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:55 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.

On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.

Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.


What would constitute conclusiveness to you? A final theory? Why?

No one has ever said that the Tevatron design was wrong and
insufficient. It did exactly what it was intended to do, and it also
produced more physics than what was ever anticipated at the time it
was built. Nevertheless, what we learned as a *result* of the Tevatron
pointed us clearly toward the new physics that would have to be found
at the LHC.

Is it your aspiration that one day we would be DONE, having nothing
further to learn, and so nothing more to explore? Why on earth would
you want that?

Yea, yea. Pyramids and stonehenges were built in attempt to get better
mutual understanding with gods. The best minds of those days stongly
advised temporal rulers to invest into that; besides, it seemed like
they are accomplishing some result. On the contrary, most if not all
important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
monstrosity and pomposity. What I am saying is Standard Model got
stuck; there is a need for new ideas.

VLV

 

[Steve Pope]

Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:

What I am saying is Standard Model got
stuck; there is a need for new ideas.

"Surfer Dude Discovers Theory of Everything"

Antony Garrett Lisi, has proposed a theory of particle physics
based on the Lie group E8 (discovered and researched by Wilhelm
Killing and Elie Cartan). Lisi's theory is described as
associating 226 known fundamental particles with 226 of the 248
symmetries of E8, with the balance presumably corresponding to
as-yet-undiscovered particles.

(Googling will provide more information on this theory...)


Steve

 

[PD]

On Mar 12, 3:37 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:55 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:14 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

PD wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:00 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

No, not like this. LHC is a special kind of black hole which attracts
money. Just another monstrous project doomed to accomplish nothing.

That depends on what you mean by "accomplish nothing." Do you consider
fundamental research that is done purely for knowledge and without an
eye to application to be accomplishing nothing?

No new knowledge.

On the contrary, we KNOW the Standard Model of particle interactions
has to break down at the energy scale probed by the LHC. There are
many possibilities here, some of them more likely than others.
Whichever of these outcomes turns out to be right, or if something
else entirely shows itself, we are *guaranteed* a dramatic revision of
our understanding of nature. This is about as sure a bet as you can
have, in terms of new knowledge.

Or don't you consider new knowledge about fundamental particle
interactions new knowledge?

The results will be inconclusive as usual. There would be offered 10
explanations why, published 10000 papers, and, after passionate
discussions at symposiums, everyone will agree that the LHC design was
wrong and insufficient and yet larger colider has to be built. This time
it must be a break through, we know this for sure, etc. etc.

What would constitute conclusiveness to you? A final theory? Why?

No one has ever said that the Tevatron design was wrong and
insufficient. It did exactly what it was intended to do, and it also
produced more physics than what was ever anticipated at the time it
was built. Nevertheless, what we learned as a *result* of the Tevatron
pointed us clearly toward the new physics that would have to be found
at the LHC.

Is it your aspiration that one day we would be DONE, having nothing
further to learn, and so nothing more to explore? Why on earth would
you want that?

Yea, yea. Pyramids and stonehenges were built in attempt to get better
mutual understanding with gods.

As I said, do you have a problem with fundamental research without an
eye to application and think all of that is a waste of time? You said
no new knowledge would come of that.

The best minds of those days stongly
advised temporal rulers to invest into that; besides, it seemed like
they are accomplishing some result. On the contrary, most if not all
important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
  monstrosity and pomposity.

And most of the discoveries today are still being done with very
limited resources and a small group of researchers. However, it's also
true that in a few areas, larger investments have made, and it's no
different today than it was back then.

What I am saying is Standard Model got
stuck; there is a need for new ideas.

As I told you, those new ideas are precisely in play at the LHC
because we already know the Standard Model breaks at the 1 TeV scale.
You are asking for new ideas to be tested, and the LHC is providing
that for you. Why are you chagrined again?

PD

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:02:28 -0800 (PST), Magnetic
<magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:

On Mar 10, 7:50 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 10, 7:11 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:



I’m scared, but can not do anything, - all ways lead to catastrophe.

This line was your most honest and straightforward. Yes, it's obvious
you are scared out of your wits. Yes, it's good that you realize there
is nothing dramatic you should do.

You should get help for your mental state, to get rid of your panicky
anxiety, and to learn how to recognize when you are pinning your fears
irrationally on something that doesn't deserve it.

Thank you. I have a small hope that physicists of CERN would
understand that they can explode the Earth with probability of about
50%, and stop the LHC.

According to their plan, the first 2*3.5TeV collisions will be
performed the 30-th of March.

Look plan-link at the page:
http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc-commissioning/news-2010/LHC-latest-news.html

Best regards, Ivan. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

The energies that they can create are microscopic compared to a
healthy cosmic ray.

CERN : 3.5e12 ev per particle

GOD : 3e20 ev per particle


That last number packs about 50 joules into what is probably *one*
proton.

John

 

[brent]

On Mar 12, 4:37 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

On the contrary, most if not all
important discoveries were done with very limited resources and without
  monstrosity and pomposity.

VLV

And also done without peer reviewed science. Funny how the psuedo
science needs peer review. How much peer needed to convince the
masses that the science behind the nuclear bomb was correct?