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[Bob Masta]

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:10:54 -0400, Hammy
<spam@spam.com> wrote:

Canadians are however snapping up real estate in the sunshine states
in record numbers. You can get a half decent condo for what it cost
for underground parking in Toronto. Read the Toronto star.

Sounds like the wrong direction... the way things
are heating up, the best investment may be
pineapple plantations in Edmonton!

Best regards,




Bob Masta

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[Uncle Al]

Magnetic wrote:
[snip crap]

The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
th of March.
The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.

1) What will you shit in public on 02 April?
2)
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v2/104
<http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100304/full/news.2010.108.html>
http://arxiv/abs/1003.2030
3) idiot

--
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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[Sam Wormley]

On 3/16/10 1:51 AM, Magnetic wrote:

The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
th of March.
The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.

Well that's certain death.... for your theories.

 

[Hammy]

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:15:43 GMT, N0Spam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta)
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:10:54 -0400, Hammy
spam@spam.com> wrote:

Canadians are however snapping up real estate in the sunshine states
in record numbers. You can get a half decent condo for what it cost
for underground parking in Toronto. Read the Toronto star.

Sounds like the wrong direction... the way things
are heating up, the best investment may be
pineapple plantations in Edmonton!

Best regards,




Bob Masta

DAQARTA v5.10
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com
Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Sound Level Meter
Frequency Counter, FREE Signal Generator
Pitch Track, Pitch-to-MIDI
DaqMusic - FREE MUSIC, Forever!
(Some assembly required)
Science (and fun!) with your sound card!

Real estate in Alberta; any place worth living will cost a helluva lot
more then $50k. If you time it right when oil prices are in the
crapper they usually take a dip but not by much. $50K will get you a
cardboard box on three bricks under an overpass

If global warming means I can get my boat out earlier I'm all for
it.;-)

 

[bert]

On Mar 16, 3:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/16/10 1:51 AM, Magnetic wrote:

The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
th of March.
The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.

   Well that's certain death.... for your theories.

Sam No dooms day with the Cern LHC I relate it to NASA shuttles
going round and round. Maybe toCern NASA will give one of those
$25,000,000 toilets Sounds like a plan TreBert

 

[gil_johnson]

On Mar 16, 3:40 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2010-03-15, John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:02:04 +0000 (UTC), Ashton K
ash...@ashtonk.ath.cx> wrote:
Is it dark inside of a black hole? Or is it very, very bright? I can
never seem to remember.

I don't thint the concept of illumination makes sense in a singularity.

Compared to this thread, it does.
Gil

 

[gil_johnson]

On Mar 16, 1:51 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:

The most probable day of creation of Dangerous Dead Droplet is the 30-
th of March.
The most probable day of Earth Explosion is the 1-st of April.

Ahh, noooo - please don't tell me this has been one long April Fools
joke.
Gil

 

[Sam Wormley]

On 3/16/10 3:16 PM, bert wrote:

Maybe toCern NASA will give one of those
$25,000,000 toilets Sounds like a plan TreBert

What is unique about those ISS toilets, in your opinion, Herb?

 

[Magnetic]

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.


Hawking formula for temperature of black hole
T = (hbar c^3) / (8 pi k G M)
can easily be transformed to
T = (hbar g) / (2 pi k c).

Compare it with Unruh formula for the temperature of accelerated rod
T = (hbar a) / (2 pi k c).

If you use the Bell paradox for rods of different length you will come
to conclusion that
T=T(r).

Using
mc^2=hbar c / R_c
one can receive the temperature at the depth R_c:
T = m g R_c / (2 pi k).
Or at the any depth R, if g=const:
T = m g R / (2 pi k).
Or in differential form:
dT/dR = m g /(2 pi k).
Changing the depth R by the distance from the center of gravitating
object, r:
dT/dr = -m g /(2 pi k).

This is a formula of gravitational gradient of temperature! It was
received in the analogues form by Loschmidt and after by Tsiolkovsky
and by … and by me in the form:
dT/dr = -(2/5) m g / k.

This temperature gradient does not lead to thermal exchange. This
temperature gradient is quite good proved by the experimental
observations.

So, there is no any process of BH evaporation. Hawking formula
describes the luminosity of usual stars.

The most dangerous objects are not black holes, but magnetic holes or
condensates of strange matter.

The amount of dark matter in the Galaxy is 6 times bigger than the
usual barionic matter. Contact of microscopic droplet of dark matter
with ordinary matter will transform the Solar system into a cosmic
corpse.

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.

More details with figures are here:
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

 

[PD]

On Mar 17, 8:13 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.

Your probability calculations are obviously, demonstrably wrong. You
gave a 75% probability two months ago that we'd all be dead weeks ago.
Now you say there is a 50% probability that we will be dead in two
more weeks. Do you understand that those two numbers are completely
inconsistent? Do you understand that because those two numbers are
completely inconsistent, this immediately tells everyone that your
probability calculations are wrong? Do you understand that because
your probability calculations have been shown to be wrong, then NO ONE
WILL PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SAY???

Hawking formula for temperature of black hole
T = (hbar c^3) / (8 pi k G M)
can easily be transformed to
T = (hbar g) / (2 pi k c).

Compare it with Unruh formula for the temperature of accelerated rod
T = (hbar a) / (2 pi k c).

If you use the Bell paradox for rods of different length you will come
to conclusion that
T=T(r).

Using
mc^2=hbar c / R_c
one can receive the temperature at the depth R_c:
T = m g R_c / (2 pi k).
Or at the any depth R, if g=const:
T = m g R / (2 pi k).
Or in differential form:
dT/dR = m g /(2 pi k).
Changing the depth R by the distance from the center of gravitating
object, r:
dT/dr = -m g /(2 pi k).

This is a formula of gravitational gradient of temperature! It was
received in the analogues form by Loschmidt and after by Tsiolkovsky
and by … and by me in the form:
dT/dr = -(2/5) m g / k.

This temperature gradient does not lead to thermal exchange. This
temperature gradient is quite good proved by the experimental
observations.

So, there is no any process of BH evaporation. Hawking formula
describes the luminosity of usual stars.

The most dangerous objects are not black holes, but magnetic holes or
condensates of strange matter.

The amount of dark matter in the Galaxy is 6 times bigger than the
usual barionic matter. Contact of microscopic droplet of dark matter
with ordinary matter will transform the Solar system into a cosmic
corpse.

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.

More details with figures are here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.html

 

[Sam Wormley]

On 3/17/10 11:48 AM, Magnetic wrote:

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.

Your statistical track record should be telling you something!

 

[Magnetic]

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.

 

[Richard Tobin]

In article <02d4e730-8c9d-4f21-9f73-ce777ae717b5@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Magnetic <magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
of weeks

.... again.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

 

[Steve Pope]

Magnetic <magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in
a couple of weeks.

But under a multiverse hypothesis, we would never know it did.
70% of physicists believe in some version of multiverse theory.

Steve

 

[PD]

On Mar 17, 1:42 pm, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article <02d4e730-8c9d-4f21-9f73-ce777ae71...@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups..com>,

Magnetic  <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
of weeks

... again.

He is looking for reassurances that the coin he is tossing has no
tails side. He lives in fear of the coin coming up tails, and he wants
either the coin to be two-headed or to take the coin out of someone
else's hand.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2010-03-18, Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I'm struggling to find a simple schematic to implement this two-inputs (A B),
one output (X) function, using 74HC building blocks.

In words:
- X is high whenever A and B are both high;
- if A is high when B goes low, X tracks B until A and B are both high;
- if A is low when B goes low, X remains high.

A-----------\__________________/--------\_______/---\___/--------------

B------\________/---\_____/-----------------\______________/-----------

X-------\________/---\_____/-------------------------------------------


The B to X delays must be low, in the order of 50 ns max @ 5V, for both
transitions. A / B setup times are in the order of 200 ns min.

Any idea ? So far anything I can think of has some ugly delay/monostable.

for minimum propogation delay you need to do it like this.

A -----::::::::::::::::: or gate
::state machine::------. __
B -+---::::::::::::::::: `--| \
| ) 1 >--------
| .--|__/
`--------------------------'

it looks like the state machine is an S-R flip-flop

with (A & B) feeding RESET and (B & !A) feeding SET



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[Magnetic]

On Mar 17, 8:55 pm, PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 17, 1:42 pm, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article <02d4e730-8c9d-4f21-9f73-ce777ae71...@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

Magnetic  <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple
of weeks

... again.

He is looking for reassurances that the coin he is tossing has no
tails side. He lives in fear of the coin coming up tails, and he wants
either the coin to be two-headed or to take the coin out of someone
else's hand.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/

 

[Francois Grieu]

Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2010-03-18, Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm struggling to find a simple schematic to implement this two-inputs
(A B), one output (X) function, using 74HC building blocks.

In words:
- X is high whenever A and B are both high;
- if A is high when B goes low, X tracks B until A and B are both high;
- if A is low when B goes low, X remains high.

A-----------\__________________/--------\_______/---\___/--------------

B------\________/---\_____/-----------------\______________/-----------

X-------\________/---\_____/-------------------------------------------


The B to X delays must be low, in the order of 50 ns max @ 5V, for both
transitions. A / B setup times are in the order of 200 ns min.

Any idea ? So far anything I can think of has some ugly delay/monostable.


for minimum propogation delay you need to do it like this.

A -----::::::::::::::::: or gate
::state machine::------. __
B -+---::::::::::::::::: `--| \
| ) 1 >--------
| .--|__/
`--------------------------'

Agreed.

it looks like the state machine is an S-R flip-flop

Seems reasonable...

with (A & B) feeding RESET and (B & !A) feeding SET

Unless I err, the second pulse is missing from X.

A----------------\__________________/-------\_______/---\___/---------

B-----------\________/---\_____/----------------\______________/------

R=A&B-------\_______________________/-------\__________________/------

S=B&!A_______________/---\_____/----\_______/---\_____________________

SR___________________/--------------\_______/------------------\______

X'=B|SR------\________/-----------------------------------------------

X------------\________/---\_____/-------------------------------------

The SET condition seems overly inclusive. But I have trouble pinpointing
an appropriate condition. I think it can't be a purely combinatorial
function of A and B.


Francois Grieu

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:23:51 +0100, Francois Grieu <fgrieu@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello,

I'm struggling to find a simple schematic to implement this two-inputs (A B),
one output (X) function, using 74HC building blocks.

In words:
- X is high whenever A and B are both high;
- if A is high when B goes low, X tracks B until A and B are both high;
- if A is low when B goes low, X remains high.

A-----------\__________________/--------\_______/---\___/--------------

B------\________/---\_____/-----------------\______________/-----------

X-------\________/---\_____/-------------------------------------------


The B to X delays must be low, in the order of 50 ns max @ 5V, for both
transitions. A / B setup times are in the order of 200 ns min.

Any idea ? So far anything I can think of has some ugly delay/monostable.

---
Unless I'm missing something, and you're talking something other than
combinatorial logic, your truth table seems to be missing an entry:
(View in Courier)

A B X
---+---+---
0 0 1 <-- if A is low when B goes low, X remains high.

0 1

1 0 0 <-- if A is high when B goes low, X tracks B until A and B
are both high

1 1 1 <-- X is high whenever A and B are both high


and your timing diagram seems to be wrong in at least one place:

"if A is low when B goes low, X remains high."
/
___________ / ________ ___ _____________
A 1 1 |_0___0____0_____0__| 1 |_0____0| 1 |_0_| 1 1
_____ ___ __________________ _________
B 1 |__0____0_| 1 |__0__| 1 1 1 |__0__0___0___0_| 1
______ ___ ___________________________________________
X 1 |_0____0__|1 |_0___| 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1



If your truth table should look like this:

A B X
---+---+---
0 0 1
0 1 1
1 0 0
1 1 1



This will do what you want:


Vcc----------A _
Y---+
+--B |
| +---A _
Y Y---->X
_ +---B
A |
| |
A>--------+--A _ |
Y---+
B>-----------B

For a 74F00:

http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74f00.pdf

the worst case input-to-output delay is 7ns, so 3 gate delays from A to
X, or 2 from B tp X would easily met your 50ns spec.

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:27:13 -0700 (PDT), Magnetic
<magnetic.trap@yandex.ua> wrote:

I give 50% probability that CERN will explode the Earth in a couple of
weeks. The 30-th of March it will collide protons with the energy
2*3.5 TeV.
The 30-th of March is the most probable day of Dangerous Droplet
creation.
The 1-st of April is the most probable day of our total start to
stars.

---
How about taking bets?

You could make a fortune if you were right!!!

Oh, but wait...

JF